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29 minutes ago, Bart Kamp said:

I am asking you to explain the difference between these two reports and its consequences.

The difference is:

The joint Hosty/Bookhout report (which was likely written up by Hosty alone; there's some testimony to back this up) doesn't mention the incident between Lee Harvey Oswald and the police officer, whereas the solo Bookhout report does mention it.

Does that mean I'm supposed to believe the second-floor lunchroom encounter never happened at all? (According to you, I guess I am supposed to believe it never happened.)

But there's Roy Truly's corroboration that proves that the encounter did occur---and on the second floor in the lunchroom, just as Truly said in his 11/23/63 affidavit.

And there's the 11/23/63 television footage with Police Chief Jesse Curry, as he talks to newsmen about how there had been an encounter inside the Book Depository Building between one of his police officers and Oswald just after the assassination. But since Curry didn't say the words "second floor" in that TV footage, this gives CTers the perfect excuse to pretend that Curry's officer encountered Oswald somewhere OTHER than the lunchroom.

But to that I say --- Hogwash!

The conspiracy theorists have nothing but wild speculation about corrupt FBI reports. I've got Roy Truly and Marrion Baker and Jesse Curry. (All liars, I suppose?)

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Are you like this or is this part of your game plan?

I spelled it out for you and you still refuse to point it out.

 

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1 minute ago, Bart Kamp said:

Are you like this or is this part of your game plan?

I spelled it out for you and you still refuse to point it out.

Can't you read, Bart? I just spelled out in my last post what the "difference" between the two reports is.

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Lemme tell you straight to your face.

You are playing a really stupid game here and you get exposed more by the minute.

Page 2 of this joint report from Nov 23rd 1963 mentions the following: Oswald stated that he went to lunch at approximately noon and claimed he ate his lunch on the first floor in the lunch room; however he went to the  second floor where the coca cola machine is located and obtained a bottle of coca cola for his lunch. Oswald claimed to be on the first floor when President John F. Kennedy passed the building.

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But it is his second, solo, report he turns things around:

Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca-cola form the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. Mr. Truly was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employee’s lunch room. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill Shelly.

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Bart thinks that one word -- "FOR" -- proves the solo report is a fraud. Hilarious!

Bart also apparently thinks that the ONLY time that Oswald could have purchased a Coke would have been BEFORE he started to eat his lunch.

Granted, most people would purchase their drink before sitting down to have their lunch, but that's not a mandatory rule for all people----especially for liars like Lee Harvey Oswald.

And for all we know, the notes that James Hosty took could have been slightly different than the notes taken by James W. Bookhout. And that difference in note-taking could very well explain the slight differences we find between the two FBI reports when it comes to the exact chronology of Oswald's (alleged) movements around lunchtime on November 22, 1963.

 

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You need to speculate and suck things out of your thumb to keep things going for you.

Brian Doyle works like that as well. And like him you do not belong here.

Your credibility has gone out of the window Von Pein. You are nothing to me when you have to resort to the fairy tales you put on display.

End of message.

 

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4 minutes ago, Bart Kamp said:

Your credibility has gone out of the window Von Pein. You are nothing to me when you have to resort to the fairy tales you put on display.

Oh, you mean like HARD EVIDENCE, such as Roy Truly's affidavit (which says, clear as day, "SECOND FLOOR")? And Marrion Baker's testimony, which says "SECOND FLOOR"?

Those "fairy tales", you mean?

End of message.

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Like Baker's first day affidavit, written and typed up!!!! 

Like Truly walking ahead of Baker

Like Molina, Lewis and Frazier not seeing a helmeted officer going in.

Like Marvin Johnson's statement littered with BS

Like Eddie Piper not seeing Baker

Like both saying at different occasions "let's take the stairs"

Like the various positions of Oswald inside the lunch room during this encounter.

Like the 2nd floor lunch room being strictly for office personnel and mgt only, workers were only allowed with permission to go there.

Like Mrs Robert Reid's BS when Geneva Hine clearly stated that between 12:25 and 12:35 no one but her was inside the office.

Like numerous newspaper reports stating that the encounter happened near the front door, plus sightings of Oswald near that vestibule front door.

Etc etc

You are a relic.

GO HOME! (that's a euphemism...I leave it to you to figure that one out!) 

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3 minutes ago, Bart Kamp said:

Like the 2nd floor lunch room being strictly for office personnel and mgt only, workers were only allowed with permission to go there.

Tell that to Buell Frazier. He was completely unaware of that fact. (But Buell is just another l-i-a-r, right Bart?)

https://drive.google.com/file/Buell Wesley Frazier Interview (2002)

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7 minutes ago, Bart Kamp said:

Like Mrs Robert Reid's BS when Geneva Hine clearly stated that between 12:25 and 12:35 no one but her was inside the office.

Good! Yet another person CTers get to call a l-i-a-r. Lovely.

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17 minutes ago, Bart Kamp said:

Like Molina, Lewis and Frazier not seeing a helmeted officer going in.

So do you now want to claim that Officer Baker never went into the TSBD at all?

Your entire list above is silly beyond tolerance. Nitpicky little points like the exact position Oswald was in during the brief 10-second encounter in the lunchroom.

And Piper not seeing Baker. As if that HAS to mean something suspicious. Geesh.

And "sightings" of Oswald near the front door. (Who else besides the wholly unreliable Carolyn Arnold said this?)

Your list crumbles to dust when we have just one look at Truly's and Baker's statements and testimony.

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5 minutes ago, Bart Kamp said:

GO HOME VON PEIN!

I am at home right now. Where do you think my computer is located? At Langley?

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1 minute ago, David Von Pein said:

So do you now want to claim that Officer Baker never went into the TSBD at all?

Your entire list above is silly beyond tolerance. Nitpicky little points like the exact position Oswald was in during the brief 10-second encounter in the lunchroom.

And Piper not seeing Baker. As if that HAS to mean something suspicious.

And "sightings" of Oswald near the front door. (Who else besides the wholly unreliable Carolyn Arnold said this?)

Your list crumbles to dust when we have just one look at Truly's and Baker's statements and testimony.

You are deluded. it shows that the official picture has crumbled to dust, but not in your deluded fairy tale.

GO HOME VON PEIN!

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1 minute ago, David Von Pein said:

I am at home right now. Where do you think my computer is located?

Not really gettin' it do you.

GO HOME VON PEIN!!!

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