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I was wondering within the JFK'verse if anyone was to start looking at the assasination, what question should they seek answered before progressing onto the next subject?

I have several One Question for JFK, RFK, MLK queries to show that the 'Official Line' is incorrect. I say this because the subject is so large that most people dont want to be bamboozled with large quantities of information.

For JFK, my question would be:

Fact: The bullet that killed JFK, on impact, moved his skull to the back and to the left.

Question: Please explain, using science and replicate this in the real world, showing that a bullet from the 6th Floor TSBD, hit JFK in the head, such that it caused the 'back and too the left movement'.

 

What would be your single question for RFK, JFK, MLK?

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6 hours ago, Adrian Newton said:

I was wondering within the JFK'verse if anyone was to start looking at the assasination, what question should they seek answered before progressing onto the next subject?

I have several One Question for JFK, RFK, MLK queries to show that the 'Official Line' is incorrect. I say this because the subject is so large that most people dont want to be bamboozled with large quantities of information.

For JFK, my question would be:

Fact: The bullet that killed JFK, on impact, moved his skull to the back and to the left.

Question: Please explain, using science and replicate this in the real world, showing that a bullet from the 6th Floor TSBD, hit JFK in the head, such that it caused the 'back and too the left movement'.

 

What would be your single question for RFK, JFK, MLK?

I would start with getting an overview of what happened that day.  Now, even this can be tricky because there are people who believe one person assassinated JFK while others believe there was a conspiracy.  If you believe one person was responsible, you can easily wrap-up your question.  If you believe it was a conspiracy, then it's going to take a lot of research and study.  I'm not saying which one is better.

To answer your question, there is no way using science to replicate in the real world how JFK's head moved back and to the left when he was shot.  For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.  So, maybe you'll fall into the conspiracy camp.

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JFK was shot in the back at T3.  The round didn't exit.  There was no round found there at the autopsy.

JFK was shot in the throat from the front.  The round didn't exit.  No round found at autopsy.

The most pressing question regarding the murder of JFK: what happened to the two rounds causing the back and throat wounds?

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6 hours ago, Cliff Varnell said:

The most pressing question regarding the murder of JFK: what happened to the two rounds causing the back and throat wounds?

If one believes the massive rear head wound the Parkland doctors describe, one would tend to think the round that caused that exited along with bone and brain matter.

That round described below by Hoover to LBJ;

"The third shot also is a complete bullet, and that rolled out of the President's head, it tore a large part of the President's head off, and, in trying to massage his heart at the hospital, on the way to the hospital, they apparently loosened that and it fell on to the stretcher. And we recovered that, we have that."

A complete bullet found on a stretcher that JFK was on, and ..... "on the way to the hospital"  This reminds me of the very first teletype news; "BELL said KENNEDY was transferred to an ambulance" INSERT WILD THEORY; was the ambulance with the epileptic patient parked and waiting on the Stemmons on ramp where it was suggested the limo stopped? "Brown told the Dallas Morning News that he saw the motorcade stop for about 30 seconds along the ramp leading onto the Stemmons Freeway." This from Altgens; "and as the ambulance was leaving through the triple overpass, underneath the triple overpass, I saw the Presidential caravan" The timing works ....

Anyway, back to the bullet. This from nurse Phyliss Hall;

"Hall was shocked to discover a bullet lodged between the president’s earlobe and the top of the shoulder, on Kennedy’s right side."

“It was out of its casing, in pristine condition, al­most perpendicular to his body. There was no blood or tissue on it. It was about two inches long and came to a sharp point. It looked just like brushed brass, and it wasn’t like it had hit any­thing hard.” 

“Doris Nelson, who was the operat­ing room supervisor, got a specimen container and took the bullet up to the operating room, to store it with the other specimens." "I don’t know what happened to it after that.”

Were Hoover and Hall referring to same bullet?

Throat wound bullet ??

Edited by Tony Krome
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How did Oswald do it all by himself with a junk rifle he never bought when he was "out front with Shelly".  Was he prayer man?

There is no single question that will answer your question regarding the JFK assassination, much less those of MLK, RFK and Malcom X.  

Other than What is the Truth.  It gets complex.  But don't give up.  It is Our Country after all.

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Rich Pope

'To answer your question, there is no way using science to replicate in the real world how JFK's head moved back and to the left when he was shot.  For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.  So, maybe you'll fall into the conspiracy camp. '

Science can surely offer an explanation via an hypothesis. The real question here, is why hasn't it been replicated in a real world set of tests? It would either support the governments theory OR support the 2 Conspiracy Facts, namely:

 

Fact 1, that a bullet came from somewhere other than the TSBD which caused 'back and to the left'; therefore a Conspiracy

Fact 2, that there was a Conspiracy to conceal the first Conspiracy.

 

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2 hours ago, Adrian Newton said:

 

Fact 1, that a bullet came from somewhere other than the TSBD which caused 'back and to the left'; therefore a Conspiracy

 

The video at the link shows a man sitting in a car who gets shot in the head and he gets thrown back and to his left

If you can handle the Zapruder film, you can handle this, jump to 1:10

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=2b9_1519438086

 

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An idea regarding a possible first question to consider about the JFK assassination:

WHO BENEFITED THE MOST BY RUBY KILLING OSWALD?

If it was a Russian plot, was Jack Ruby working for them in eliminating Oswald just two days after JFK, thereby keeping Oswald from breaking down and revealing this truth? 

If Oswald was doing this for Castro, again, Ruby did Castro a favor in eliminating someone who could have broken down and revealed their involvement.

If our highest military, political and secret agency leaders TRULY BELIEVED ( with proof )  the Russians (or Castro) were behind JFK's assassination ( that they would actually take our President out-on our own soil!)  do you really think they would allow this act of war to go unpunished without like-minded retribution?

We didn't do anything more to those two regimes after JFK was slaughtered than our normal adversarial relationships before the assassination.

That non-response tells me the Russians and Castro were not the guilty parties here.

If our highest authorities were convinced Castro was behind the JFK  murder, they would have gone in with 200,000 troops and a massive armor attack and wiped Castro out within 3 months.

 

 

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On 1/30/2019 at 10:28 AM, Adrian Newton said:

I was wondering within the JFK'verse if anyone was to start looking at the assasination, what question should they seek answered before progressing onto the next subject?

 

Adrian,

 

I guess your questions would be, Who, What, When, Where, Why and How. I think the only questions that can be definitely answered and What, When, and Where

Who did it?  Open for Debate.

What happened? JFK was shot with a gun.

When did it happen? 12:30 on a Friday afternoon in November, 1963.

Where did it happen? Dealey Plaza in Dallas, Texas.

Why did it happen? Open for Debate.

How did it happen? Open for Debate.

 

I guess a person would just need to take their pick as to what they wanted to tackle first.

 

Steve Thomas

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Adrian

I once had a very wise boss who said "its not the answers we get wrong, its the questions that we ask".  There are a handful of specific stories or subplots to the assassination that are particularly insightful and worth digging into (imho) - questions, if you will.  All of these topics have a wealth of information available (and some obvious disinformation too, which is itself telling) from a wealth excellent research in the last 50 years. From these topics, you will get a very good sense of what the right questions are to ask:

  1. What happened in Mexico City at the end of September 1963 (beginning on Sept. 20th) and how was that information managed and manipulated by the CIA 
  2. Who were Ruth and Michael Paine, and what was their true interest in Lee and Marina Oswald ... who put them up to this, as "handlers"
  3. Where was Officer J. D. Tippit in the hour following the assassination, and why was he killed ... leading to Oswald's apprehension in the Texas Theater 
  4. How was the iconic Zapruder Film handled in the days (and years) following the assassination, and what is the film's true provenance   
  5. Why did Jim Garrison become interested in the assassination, and was he on the right track ... how/why was his investigation subverted and sabotaged 

I could add other interesting topics such as the autopsy, the ballistics/weapons, intimidation of witnesses, suppression of evidence, conduct of the Warren Commission, Jack Ruby's associates, behavior of the mainstream media,  etc.  There is much information to digest, and many rabbit holes one can lost within.  But for me, the five topics above - when fully understood - shed light on who orchestrated the murder, and why.  

Gene

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On ‎1‎/‎31‎/‎2019 at 2:16 AM, Adrian Newton said:

Rich Pope

'To answer your question, there is no way using science to replicate in the real world how JFK's head moved back and to the left when he was shot.  For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.  So, maybe you'll fall into the conspiracy camp. '

Science can surely offer an explanation via an hypothesis. The real question here, is why hasn't it been replicated in a real world set of tests? It would either support the governments theory OR support the 2 Conspiracy Facts, namely:

 

Fact 1, that a bullet came from somewhere other than the TSBD which caused 'back and to the left'; therefore a Conspiracy

Fact 2, that there was a Conspiracy to conceal the first Conspiracy.

 

Adrian,

I totally agree with you.  JFK was shot in the throat from the front and the final head-shot came from the front.  Also, there was a cover-up by our own government.  I think what the advanced researchers are just trying to do now is fill-in all the little holes, to connect the missing dots so to speak.  The big picture is clear.  

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And of course the question of who benefited "the most" from JFK's killing? 

LBJ, big oil, certain military contract corporations and the small group who owned the majority interests in them, Hoover, The Mafia.

Or was this revenge for those who blamed JFK for the Bay Of Pigs? Segregationists hate? Ultra Right Wing who felt JFK was a communist agent.

General Walker seeking revenge for his forced commitment into a mental institution?

 

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18 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:

And of course the question of who benefited "the most" from JFK's killing? 

LBJ, big oil, certain military contract corporations and the small group who owned the majority interests in them, Hoover, The Mafia.

Or was this revenge for those who blamed JFK for the Bay Of Pigs? Segregationists hate? Ultra Right Wing who felt JFK was a communist agent.

General Walker seeking revenge for his forced commitment into a mental institution?

 

Wall Street.  Ended his anti colonialism ideals regarding  Vietnam (rubber),  Uranium in Katanga, necessary for Nuclear weapons development. Then there's the oil depletion  allowance as well as ...

Edited by Ron Bulman

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51 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:

And of course the question of who benefited "the most" from JFK's killing? 

 

Vatican and Royal Familes.   Vatican removed the Buddhists from SouthEast Asia, and the Royal Families consolidated their drug operations.

Great book, and free:

https://archive.org/details/AvroManhattanVietnamWhyDidWeGo

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https://ibb.co/LdkNR1G

One might assume that this emotive painting would hang somewhere in Dallas, Texas or perhaps in the Smithsonian. And one would be wrong on both counts. This painting of President John F. Kennedy's gruesome assassination, by Mark Balma, hangs in the Vatican Cathedral of St. Paul. The painting is entitled “Pietà” after Michelangelo’s famous sculpture of Mary holding the body of the crucified Christ, which is also located at the Vatican. Isn’t this a macabre way to “celebrate” the life of perhaps America’s most beloved President? or is this rather an homage to the Jesuit agenda, serving as a stern warning/reminder to those willing to cross them?

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