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Lumpkin, Gannaway, and the DPD-Army Intelligence network

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Steve, I could have sworn that you found a document some time ago which showed that the original source of the communication was a general message that had come out of the Army headquarters in Washington late that afternoon and that it was being recirculated among a number of headquarters as SOP.  Seems like this was discussed at length then and that Jones was wrong other than the fact that it certainly did not originate in the 112th.  It seemed to make a great deal of sense given that it reads like a headquarters message that would go to a number of commands.  I had put it out of my mind after that exchange...should have saved something I suppose.  It also made sense given that Strike Command was a virtual command, being largely a headquarters group and its assets were within field Army groups including the armored units at Fort Bliss and commands like the 101st -  if I recall correctly. 

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7 minutes ago, Larry Hancock said:

Steve, I could have sworn that you found a document some time ago which showed that the original source of the communication was a general message that had come out of the Army headquarters in Washington late that afternoon and that it was being recirculated among a number of headquarters as SOP.  Seems like this was discussed at length then and that Jones was wrong other than the fact that it certainly did not originate in the 112th.  It seemed to make a great deal of sense given that it reads like a headquarters message that would go to a number of commands.  I had put it out of my mind after that exchange...should have saved something I suppose.  It also made sense given that Strike Command was a virtual command, being largely a headquarters group and its assets were within field Army groups including the armored units at Fort Bliss and commands like the 101st -  if I recall correctly. 

Larry,

 

Yes. That's what the cable actually is. It's coming out of Washington summarizing an earlier phone call between a Captain Saxton at US Srikom and a Lt. Col Fons at DCSINTEL.

For those interested, it's in:

https://ia601309.us.archive.org/22/items/nsia-ArmyIntelligenceJFK/nsia-ArmyIntelligenceJFK/AI%20JFK%2001.pdf

It's in the Weisberg Collection.

https://archive.org/details/nsia-ArmyIntelligenceJFK

 

If I remember correctly, the local 112th in Dallas didn't know anything about it, and the suggestion is that Stringfellow communicated his info about Oswald directly to San Antonio.

Stringfellow was manning the radio at the Fairrounds, and I think he talked directly to Fort Sam Houston. But how it got from Fort Sam Houston to McDill in FL. is a mystery - to me anyway.

Jones told the HSCA, "I take no pride of ownership of it."

 

Steve Thomas

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I need to really study the message routing again but its entirely possible CONARC, which is continental Army headquarters, put out a general query to major commands in regard to anything they had on Oswald, some of the commands may have circulated that to associated commands that were on their distribution list and Fort Worth responded....  just a thought, will look at the routing more when I have time.   Of course at the same time Jones was happily sharing anything he could find in his files with DPD.

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10 hours ago, Larry Hancock said:

B.A.  my paper and  the study that's on available on C.D. - including the extended Prouty interview - are all based on extensive documents including internal memos from the ARRB.  I'm sure there are more available, and that Malcolm got many of them but my writing was based on at least three or four hundred pages of ARRB documents.

Ah ok, thanks a ton as always Larry!

Hey Bill, I must say, as I read the ARRB document on Prouty, wow.....I men what a document...I mean if that isn't embarrassing, I don't know what is. I don't mean to seemingly toss dirt at Prouty but they really put the questions to the guy and he was just fell apart as far as any factual data is concerned :(.

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This question, this avenue of research, always disappears. Do we not think the confluence of Military Intelligence outfits and Dallas Police Detectives interesting? 

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I think it is completely fascinating.  With Lumpkin presenting LHO’s boss RoyTruly to Fritz as the first instance of suspicion that  Oswald was involved in JFK’s death...combined with Gannaway falsely claiming there was “a roll call” of the employees in the minutes after the shooting...that puts Army Intelligence chiefs at the center of the frame-up of Oswald.

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