David Von Pein Posted February 18 For any person who believes that the "Prayer Man" figure is Lee Harvey Oswald and for those who are unaware of the document linked below, I'd recommend that they read that document, which is an April 3, 1964, FBI report consisting of signed statements from 73 different Book Depository employees. The FBI, in these statements, sought to discover some basic information from those 73 TSBD employees, including whether each of the employees had seen Lee Harvey Oswald at the time of JFK's assassination. And if you read through all 73 statements, you'll find that there wasn't a single employee who said they saw Oswald at the time the shooting took place --- not even among the several people who said they were located on or near the front steps of the Depository at 12:30 PM on 11/22/63. Do the "Prayer Man" advocates think all of the people who were in a position to see Oswald on or near the steps were lying? Or were they all just not very observant? And if it's the latter option, then conspiracy theorists have got to admit one thing for sure --- any conspirators who might have been attempting to frame Lee Harvey Oswald for President Kennedy's murder on November 22nd sure as heck got awfully lucky when their designated "patsy", who was standing right out in the open in front of the building for all to potentially see, just happened to go totally unnoticed in the eyes of every single spectator who was standing nearby. Patsy-framing assassination plotters don't get that lucky very often. Do they? .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanessa Loney Posted February 18 6 hours ago, David Von Pein said: But at the same time....so meaningless. Marina Oswald looked at the same crappy, fuzzy image that all of us have looked at, and yet she somehow KNOWS "It's Lee". Yeah, right. David, there's a reason the authorities get the next of kin to identify a body. It's because they know the person best and can identify them even when others can't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanessa Loney Posted February 18 13 hours ago, Bart Kamp said: http://www.prayer-man.com/marina-oswald-its-lee/ Absolutely awesome work Barto and Ed. Kudos to you both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanessa Loney Posted February 18 1 hour ago, David Von Pein said: For any person who believes that the "Prayer Man" figure is Lee Harvey Oswald and for those who are unaware of the document linked below, I'd recommend that they read that document, which is an April 3, 1964, FBI report consisting of signed statements from 73 different Book Depository employees. The FBI, in these statements, sought to discover some basic information from those 73 TSBD employees, including whether each of the employees had seen Lee Harvey Oswald at the time of JFK's assassination. And if you read through all 73 statements, you'll find that there wasn't a single employee who said they saw Oswald at the time the shooting took place --- not even among the several people who said they were located on or near the front steps of the Depository at 12:30 PM on 11/22/63. Do the "Prayer Man" advocates think all of the people who were in a position to see Oswald on or near the steps were lying? Or were they all just not very observant? And if it's the latter option, then conspiracy theorists have got to admit one thing for sure --- any conspirators who might have been attempting to frame Lee Harvey Oswald for President Kennedy's murder on November 22nd sure as heck got awfully lucky when their designated "patsy", who was standing right out in the open in front of the building for all to potentially see, just happened to go totally unnoticed in the eyes of every single spectator who was standing nearby. Patsy-framing assassination plotters don't get that lucky very often. Do they? .... David, 13 TSBD employees are on the steps and they manage to identify who is standing behind them, in front and beside them. But they all fail to identify one person, the same person. And they don't even say there was a stranger there. Not one. Even though he is clearly visible standing right next to the door they need to open to get back into the building. And no-one saw this stranger even though the FBI asked them if they saw any strangers that day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Von Pein Posted February 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vanessa Loney said: David, 13 TSBD employees are on the steps and they manage to identify who is standing behind them, in front and beside them. Well, Vanessa, as Tony Krome pointed out earlier (and he made a good point), Sarah Stanton failed to say that Buell Frazier was there. And we certainly know that he WAS there. But the "Prayer Man" person could most certainly be a STRANGER. There's no reason why it COULDN'T be a "stranger", despite the protests of CTers saying that that is impossible. CD706/CE1381 doesn't specifically say that all 73 of those employees saw no strangers OUTSIDE the confines of the building on Nov. 22. Most of them said they saw no strangers INSIDE the building. But do you think that statement is also meant to convey that they didn't see any unknown people standing on the steps of the building during the motorcade? I don't think it means that at all. Therefore, IMO, the possibility (or even probability) of Mr. Prayer Person being a "stranger" is certainly still on the table. Edited February 18 by David Von Pein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bart Kamp Posted February 18 Besides Danny Garcia in CE1381 no strangers on the steps or inside the building Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony Krome Posted February 18 "But they all fail to identify one person, the same person" "no strangers on the steps or inside the building" Checkmate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanessa Loney Posted February 18 1 hour ago, David Von Pein said: Well, Vanessa, as Tony Krome pointed out earlier (and he made a good point), Sarah Stanton failed to say that Buell Frazier was there. And we certainly know that he WAS there. But the "Prayer Man" person could most certainly be a STRANGER. There's no reason why it COULDN'T be a "stranger", despite the protests of CTers saying that that is impossible. CD706/CE1381 doesn't specifically say that all 73 of those employees saw no strangers OUTSIDE the confines of the building on Nov. 22. Most of them said they saw no strangers INSIDE the building. But do you think that statement is also meant to convey that they didn't see any unknown people standing on the steps of the building during the motorcade? I don't think it means that at all. Therefore, IMO, the possibility (or even probability) of Mr. Prayer Person being a "stranger" is certainly still on the table. David, it would make sense if even one or two people on the steps said they saw a stranger. Although out of 13 people on the steps (who were all employed in the building) I would actually expect more than that to ID a stranger standing right in the doorway as they are re-entering the building. But for none of them to see him? As Andrej has pointed out so well this stranger, who none of them saw, just happens to be identified by Marina as Lee and has the same height, weight, hair and clothes as Lee. How can it not be Lee? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Von Pein Posted February 18 31 minutes ago, Bart Kamp said: Besides Danny Garcia in CE1381 no strangers on the steps or inside the building Big deal. You found ONE. Hooray for Kamp! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Von Pein Posted February 18 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Vanessa Loney said: As Andrej has pointed out so well this stranger, who none of them saw, just happens to be identified by Marina as Lee and has the same height, weight, hair and clothes as Lee. How can it not be Lee? This is how.... [Click....] Edited February 18 by David Von Pein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bart Kamp Posted February 18 2 minutes ago, David Von Pein said: Big deal. You found ONE. Hooray for Kamp! shows what your plan has been all along..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Von Pein Posted February 18 Just now, Bart Kamp said: shows what your plan has been all along..... And that would be.....? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanessa Loney Posted February 18 4 minutes ago, David Von Pein said: This is how.... [Click....] David, stick to the new evidence. It cancels out all that old 'evidence'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B. A. Copeland Posted February 18 (edited) Speaking of the 6th Floor Museum and Film quality, etc., I would encourage members to take a listen to Midnght Writer News Show #107 w/Doug Horne: https://midnightwriternews.com/mwn-episode-107-douglas-horne-on-the-zapruder-film-alteration-debate/ Absolutely fascinating, shocking and honestly, and in a way, horrifying... Ed & Barto thanks a ton for sharing as always! Edited February 18 by B. A. Copeland Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derek Thibeault Posted February 18 Did Marina sign the petition? She would be a big name. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
