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I have two research questions if you will please.  My book is nearly complete and I have two questions remaining.  

Q1:  According to Harold Weisberg, Secret Service Agent Roy Kellerman’s daughter told him: “I hope the day will come when these men (Kellerman and Greer) will be able to say what they've told their families."  I have been trying to locate Kellerman’s daughter to ask her what she meant.  I have not been able to even find her first name or address; suggestions.  I have tried obits and FB. 

Q2:  One source said Carl Mather testified under promise of clemency (or something like that) but that his testimony is still sealed.  Another famous well respected researcher told me he never testified.  Any further data from anyone.   His Peace to you, Kyle Kopitke   PresidentKopitke2016.info   kylekopitke@gmail.com

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1 hour ago, Kyle Kenley Kopitke said:

I have two research questions if you will please.  My book is nearly complete and I have two questions remaining.  

Q1:  According to Harold Weisberg, Secret Service Agent Roy Kellerman’s daughter told him: “I hope the day will come when these men (Kellerman and Greer) will be able to say what they've told their families."  I have been trying to locate Kellerman’s daughter to ask her what she meant.  I have not been able to even find her first name or address; suggestions.  I have tried obits and FB. 

Q2:  One source said Carl Mather testified under promise of clemency (or something like that) but that his testimony is still sealed.  Another famous well respected researcher told me he never testified.  Any further data from anyone.   His Peace to you, Kyle Kopitke   PresidentKopitke2016.info   kylekopitke@gmail.com

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol12/html/HSCA_Vol12_0022a.htm

 

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Boy you can say that again.

That was some really mediocre questioning.  

Which is what Eddie Lopez complained a lot about.

If you read the rendition of this in Joe McBride's book, you will see why its so interesting.  He spends seven pages on it (526-33).

 

 

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Dallas reporter at the time of the assassination and future mayor of the city, "Wes Wise told the HSCA in 1978 that when he had dinner with the Mathers and a New York reporter shortly after the assassination to discuss the incident allegedly involving their car, Carl Mathers was "so upset" and "agitated" that he was "too nervous to eat".

"The HSCA sought testimony from Carl Mathers in 1978.  G. Robert Blakey, the HSCA's chief council and staff director , applied to U.S. Attorney Griffin Bell for an order compelling Mathers testimony and inexplicably "conferring immunity upon Carl Amos Mather" for that testimony, in which Mather could not explain how his car's license number could have been seen on a car in the El Chico parking lot with a driver resembling Oswald."

Pgs. 532-533.   https://www.amazon.com/Into-Nightmare-Killers-President-Kennedy/dp/1939795257/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2A3P6JAFHTWDP&keywords=into+the+nightmare+joseph+mcbride&qid=1551235721&s=books&sprefix=into+the+nigh%2Caps%2C858&sr=1-1-catcorr

Why did the FBI drop the investigation into this after the assassination?

Did Collins Radio provide communications equipment used in the assassination? 

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Why could the HSCA not find the original FBI reports?

Did they grant him immunity because it does not say so in the report.

McBride thinks the FBI lied about the car color.

What Douglass does with this is memorable.

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The immunity part is from Mr. McBrides book.  I thought it would be from HSCA records.  He denotes sources throughout the book as they occur in relation to a topic but doesn't specifically say that in this case.  No page notes or end notes, though a detailed glossary and index.

He does take it a step further though.  Maher's supervisor volunteered to the HSCA  for some reason that Collins Radio maintained a facility until 1959 at Red Bird airport, where some speculate Oswald was trying to get to get away.  Why would he bring that up in 1978?

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Kyle, I wonder if our resident Secret Service history authority Vince Palamara might have some ideas regards where to find Kellerman's daughter at this time?

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43 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:

Kyle, I wonder if our resident Secret Service history authority Vince Palamara might have some ideas regards where to find Kellerman's daughter at this time?

Thanks, Joe! As I told Kyle, this is one of my failings: I was unable to contact the Kellerman daughters, let alone even learn their (married) names, first or last. Harold Weisberg, who gave me the info, died in 2002. Perhaps somewhere on either June's or Roy's Find A Grave memorial (one or the other) left a memorial with contact information.

 

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/31443145/june-virginia-kellerman

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/25757775

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Kellerman

 

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Vince, any speculations as to what Kellerman's daughter meant by her statement to and reported by Weisberg?

Do you think either Kellerman or Greer had more information they couldn't share that contradicted the WC final conclusion?

Kellerman clearly describes a "flurry" ( that specific word used ) of shots coming into the presidential limo during the assault. He describes the energy force of the shots as that of a sound barrier breaking jet flying overhead.

He describes hearing JFK and Jackie speak during shooting. 

And by the way...there is a photo showing the upper steel JFK limo inner windshield frame depicting "no" damage to this soon before the assassination versus the significant indentation there afterwards.

 

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Here is an update to my earlier posting about researching Carl Mather and Roy Kellerman's daughter. Hi Jessica Shores and et all, Thank you Jessica for your great research and leg work. Sorry for the delay, I have been trying to stay off Facebook in order to complete final chapters and add some content in my book and do phone interviews; I can only balance so much; thanks for understanding. For example, yesterday, I revised and added content to my chapter on Bullet Anomalies, and the Z Film (s) Anomalies chapter; a couple days ago I spoke with Scott Kaiser whose father was involved in the Liberate Cuba Community; Scott has serious health challenges, please remember him in your prayers. I also spoke with Tom Meotis (spelling) to ask about the credibility of a person he has done a taped interview with (she was a county clerk ad claimed the FBI came to office a week before the 22nd and asked for all docs on....Oswald. Besides trying to track down Roy Kellerman's daughter, I am pursing Trenton Parker from Pegasus (I think he is in Colorado; or was), and William Martinell (I think I have a location on him). My goal is to find phone numbers for these folks and call them on Saturday. Martinell is very interesting; as you recall he was sent with Mills to look for brain matter in the JFK limo; he brought back, and here is where the story goes off the charts, either two bullet fragments, or two bullet fragments and one nearly whole bullet. As you recall, Doctor Young (who wrote Ford later about it) said he saw a whole bullet. This is not to be confused with the nearly whole bullet that Doctor Osborne said he saw roll out of the wrappings around JFK as he was removed from the casket to be placed on the table (he said he held that bullet in his hand); Custer said of course he also saw the bullet roll out, and added he gave it to Finck who took it; it was not documented as was not the Doctor Young Bullet. Now Mills was interviewed but declined to discuss the matter, so I am trying to locate Martinell to see if he will shed light. Plus, I am trying to work on lead on the notorious purported Stephen Bowen JFK Film that is purported to show a different angle than the Z Film. I located a "led" on the film after two years of digging, and asked Hugh Ainsworth if he could approach the person; Hugh was very gracious with his time with me, but had to decline as he is filled to overflowing with other projects; he did suggest another person to approach my lead; I need to follow up with that person. Robert Morrow was gracious with hi time two nights ago. Plus last night I had two people volunteer on my political campaign! So bear with me while I flush through this; I'll keep you updated. His Peace to you, Kyle Kenley Kopitke PresidentKopitke2016.info Tonight I am working on my "Who Was Behind It chapter with a focus on claims LBJ was a moving force, and oh yea, I am trying to locate Doug Horne to ask permission to use some of his content. Thanks again to everyone with the encouragement and leg work. Oh, and I see where esteemed JFK Researcher William Kelly states Carl did not testify; I am confused as on another FB page, another JFK Researcher states he did; so I have to sort that out as well.

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Yes, if your writing a book based on information from Hugh Ayensworth and Robert Morrow you are confused.  I don't know either but don't imagine Doug Horne or Bill Kelly will give you he time of day.

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