W. Niederhut Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Ron Ecker said: I've wondered the same thing. If Trump loses in November, are you confident that he will just concede? He might just call the election results a hoax or massive fraud and tell us to believe him and not what we're hearing from "the enemy of the people." Want the opinion of an evangelical Christian? TV huckster Jim Bakker said a couple of years ago that it Trump was ever impeached, there would be a Second American Civil War. Well, that didn't happen, but that doesn't compare to getting voted out of office. But let's give Trump televangelist Jim Bakker credit where credit is due. He has recently discovered a cure for Coronavirus, called Silver Solution, that he is selling for only $124.99 a bottle! I wonder if Robert has been swilling this stuff recently. 😬 Televangelist Sells $125 'Silver Solution' as Cure for Coronavirus https://www.newsweek.com/televangelist-show-guest-promotes-silver-solution-cure-coronavirus-1487069 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 My favorite Bakker story, from back in his heyday, was when his wife Tammy told how God cured her washing machine. She had to go somewhere and needed her clothes washed first and the machine wouldn't work. She laid hands on the washing machine and God got it working in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 45 minutes ago, Ron Ecker said: My favorite Bakker story, from back in his heyday, was when his wife Tammy told how God cured her washing machine. She had to go somewhere and needed her clothes washed first and the machine wouldn't work. She laid hands on the washing machine and God got it working in no time. My favorite was when Tammy was crying how much they needed donations the mascara riding tears down her cheeks and she goes - “Some of you may say - ‘Just have faith in the Lord’ — easy for YOU to say!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said: Evangelical Christians are not a Trump base. Well excuuuuuuse me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 The Case Against Joe Biden: Former VP’s Long Career Shows a Recurring Theme of “Appeasing the Right” https://www.democracynow.org/2020/3/4/branko_marcetic_joe_biden_super_tuesday?fbclid=IwAR0mOCaEvtIG7K4PekYOSw8ie9I_DMfOM7gYgpCV0di3q8Co-33nwIVPj3g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said: You are free to use the 35 year old troupe that Republican voters are unwashed bible-thumping hicks Why do you think I would want to do that? Did I post something like that here in my sleep or what? As for the rest of your post, I couldn't understand it. But on the subject of evangelical Christians, I like to watch Jimmy Swaggart's network quite a bit, because I enjoy the music. Jimmy in particular sings old-time gospel. As for the preaching and the discussion panels like Francis & Friends, they worship the Holy Trinity and Donald Trump in that order. There was also a leading Southern Baptist minister whose name I forget and whom I haven't seen recently (maybe he's was on FoxNews which I will no longer watch, even the ladies on Outnumbered aren't sexy anymore) who was on the tube a lot, and he would sing the praises of Donald Trump. Then there was a recent, much publicized article in Christianity Today, written by a fellow who chastised evangelical Christians for abandoning their principles of morality and decency in supporting Donald Trump. Things like this lead me to think that a lot of these Christians just really like Donald Trump. But I don't want to upset you any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Robert Wheeler said: Chris Bollyn had some interesting comments on the guns and Butter Podcast. (Episode #415 from a few months ago.) I just listened to it now even though it has been out a while. In any case, the comment that caught my ear was about the formation of the Mossad after WWII. A number of the Mossad founders had spent a number of years as exiles in China (Harkan & Shanghai were mentioned.) This group of exiled Jews were Bolshevik refugees and also some who later fled East as the Nazis moved on the USSR. A number of the White Russian families I have mentioned in past posts also made up a large contingent of anti-Red Russians that ended up in China. George de Mohrensheldts second wife spent some time in China. Within the White Russian community in China was the Kluge family, who were also related to the Ignatieff's (later of Canada.) One of the Kluges was once married to CV Starr, the founder of AIG (uncle of Ken Starr) who would hand the reigns of AIG over to Hank Greenberg in 1962. AIG figures pretty prominently in a number of 9/11 narratives. Jeff Greenberg (Hanks son) was CEO of Marsh & McClellan on 9/1 and I think AIG insurance liability was very small compared to the other insurers (only had a small payout to policy holders.) In any event, I just thought it was interesting that the Mossad founders and AIG and some other White Russian families that show up in some nuclear espionage cases (also possibly JFK) have these Chinese origins. What has all this blather got to do with Bloomberg dropping, Bernie or Biden, I.E. the subject you are quoting? Or JFK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Ron Bulman said: If I recall right Bloomberg said before he ever threw his hat in the ring of Warren words to the effect of we certainly don't want her as president. Wasn't he a hedge fund manager on wall street. Isn't that where he made his 55-60 billion? The article below is an example of the types of things she fought against. Biden's been in bed with wall street his whole life, heck most of them moved corporate hq's to his state. Yeah, mission accomplished, Mike backs Joe now. What's a half billion to guarantee she didn't get 2 cents our of every dollar over xxx million when you've got 60 bil. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/the-great-wall-street-housing-grab/ar-BB10IViW?li=BBnbfcN Maybe he saved her life. We now what happened to JFK for Battling Wallstreet. https://www.amazon.com/Battling-Wall-Street-Kennedy-Presidency/dp/1615776680/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=battling+wall+street&qid=1583381910&s=books&sr=1-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said: Generalizing about a politicians "base" is what Democrats do.... And Republicans don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) Does it get any worse than this? Watching TV at the gym. Bloomberg's advisor comes on and says that although Bloomberg is out, he will keep his ground game intact to help Biden. Next report: HRC taking a TV tour to attack Bernie and promote Biden. If anyone had any doubts about who this woman was, they should now be dispelled. A former First Lady should be not taking sides. If a man is defined by his enemies, Bernie is going to be consecrated as a saint soon. Edited March 5, 2020 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 it has always surprised me that the 2013 Supreme Court decision did not get enough attention: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/texas-super-tuesday-rigged-election_n_5e601c1dc5b644545ea4c2cc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 4 hours ago, James DiEugenio said: Does it get any worse than this? Watching TV at the gym. Bloomberg's advisor comes on and says that although Bloomberg is out, he will keep his ground game intact to help Biden. Next report: HRC taking a TV tour to attack Bernie and promote Biden. If anyone had any doubts about who this woman was, they should now be dispelled. A former First Lady should not taking sides. If a man is defined by his enemies, Bernie is going to be consecrated as a saint soon. The concern of the Democrat establishment, whether justified or not, is that a socialist like Bernie, who even has good things to say about Fidel Castro (why in the world did he bring that up?) cannot beat even the low likes of Donald Trump. Of course Trump's chance of reelection, according to conventional wisdom ("It's the economy, stupid"), will depend largely on the economy and not his personality cult. And it looks like the economy is going to suffer a bad virus attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Robert Wheeler said: Also, the same syndicate that killed JFK and destroyed the WTC on 9/11 has been trying to get rid of Trump since before the 2016 Election. Are you saying that "the same syndicate" that killed JFK and pulled off 9/11 can't get rid of Donald Trump, though it has tried for four years? Okay. Edited March 5, 2020 by Ron Ecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) This coronavirus event may trump even the economy as far as impacting the coming election. I am sure none of us has seen anything as potentially broadly impacting to our entire society daily lives since WWII. One one hand Trump's camp is telling everyone the situation isn't so bad, yet every day we are seeing every level of government and corporate management taking drastic action that we have never seen before such as shutting down all schools ( Washington State ) curtailing hundreds if not thousands of large public events and meetings. Major city news talk radio station expert commentators mention hygiene warnings, travel warnings, basic needs shopping warnings that are being immediately adhered to by millions of citizens. Major retailers are running out of everything from toilet paper, disinfectants and even TOP RAMEN! Working parents are scrambling as far as maybe having to pull their kids from schools and their participation in outside activities such as sports or music etc. How can they work without stress emotionally and financially with a situation like this? People aren't taking long trips. They are looking at every activity with the coronavirus fear in mind. My guess is Chinese restaurants will take a huge beating in this fear area just because people would think that maybe their staff has relatives that may have come from infected areas? Personally I would hate to give up one of my favorite pleasures of eating Chinese restaurant food. Panda Express is a regular indulgence. But seriously, the impact on the economy is beginning to look unprecedented enormous and if it gets worse, it could literally change our daily way of life like we have never seen in our lifetimes. The aids epidemic was small peanuts in this regards. Ebola was contained to Africa. Sars and our regular flu cycles didn't effect us this strongly. JFK's assassination didn't effect us economically like this situation could. If this coronavirus event gets worse to widespread degrees, it may turn out to be the most important political issue of all this election. Edited March 5, 2020 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said: It's pretty obvious. Yes, it's pretty obvious to me that the idea that the killers of JFK and perpetrators of 9/11 simply can't rid of somebody is, well, fill in the blank. Also, dissuade yourself from the heuristic that Trump is stupid and so are his followers. It's the Left's fatal flaw. You'll be amazed. I am not part of "the Left" so kindly stop telling me that I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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