David Andrews Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Douglas Caddy said: I was surprised as was everyone else when John Dean said on Anderson Cooper's 360 on Thursday evening (11/21/2019) that Nixon could have saved his presidency had he known certain things. When David Gergen asked him why he had not revealed this before, Dean replied because "I was never asked." So why didn't Dean tell Nixon what he knew that would have saved the president instead of snitching on him? Unfortunately on the CNN program none of the panelists quizzed Dean further to ascertain what Nixon should have known that would have saved his presidency. I am reporting it here in the hope that someone sometime will confront Dean as to what was withheld from Nixon. Could that knowledge be, "Fire me and make an example of me before you start the cover-up, because I instigated the break-in over my fiancee's call girl ring"? Edited November 23, 2019 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 David: Your surmise may be close to what was withheld. I also think that the role of Washington Metropolitan Police Detective Carl Shoffler would meet the criteria. He was a military intelligence officer assigned to the police and knew more than two weeks ahead of June 17th that the DNC burglary was planned. He went through NSA's Vint Hill Farm Station's training to learn spycraft at the same time Bob Woodward did. Woodward as a military intelligence officer was assigned to work for the Washington Post. Shofller's actions amounted to entrapment of the burglars because he caused them to change the break-in from June 18 to June 17 so that it would take place on his birthday and he also did not inform his superiors at the Police of the planned break-in.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 On 11/23/2019 at 4:14 PM, David Andrews said: Could that knowledge be, "Fire me and make an example of me before you start the cover-up, because I instigated the break-in over my fiancee's call girl ring"? IOW when Dean told Nixon "there's a cancer growing on the presidency," he should have added, "and you're looking at it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ron Ecker said: IOW when Dean told Nixon "there's a cancer growing on the presidency," he should have added, "and you're looking at it." People who are duplicitous often speak in double-meanings out of hubris, perhaps mixed with the strange thrill of covert confession. I have to ask again: What was Dean up to, and why, when he told Nixon, [paraphrase], "We don't know where to get a million in hush money. We're not criminals or the Mafia"? And then, of course, like some corrupt, small-town mayor, Dick bit at the bait, on tape. Not since Othello took the handkerchief from Iago.... Len Colodny says there were multiple tapes discussing the cover-up with Dean that have gone unheard - some worse than this, the "Smoking Gun." It was early in the history of wiretapping, but Nixon's naivete in believing that tapes the president made himself would not be heard by others and discussed with a special prosecutor is in the realm of the fantastic. I thought there was a Rose Garden for conversations like this. Edited November 25, 2019 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Dean is now a regular commentator on CNN. Always with his eyeglasses perched down on the end of his nose. I don't know why that makes me want to slap his glasses off of his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Couteau Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) On 11/24/2019 at 6:51 PM, David Andrews said: Nixon's naivete in believing that tapes the president made himself would not be heard by others and discussed with a special prosecutor is in the realm of the fantastic. So true. I recall reading - either in "Secret Agenda," "Spooks," or in Colodny's work - that the storage room where the tapes were stacked was so insecure that certain taped were temporarily removed and played at select parties in Washington DC at that time. To much drunken laughter. They could easily have been copied. Also agree with Ron that those pretentiously perched glasses of Dean's are really ridiculous. Edited November 25, 2019 by Rob Couteau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Ron Ecker said: Dean is now a regular commentator on CNN. Always with his eyeglasses perched down on the end of his nose. I don't know why that makes me want to slap his glasses off of his face. Maybe the fact that he's lied his ass off, screwed the USA in the process, and, profited from it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 The Irishman now streaming on Netflix! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, David Andrews said: The Irishman now streaming on Netflix! Too bad I don't have a smart TV. I'm always falling behind the times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Couteau Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Netflix just saved the historic Paris Theatre, which was about to close in NY: https://deadline.com/2019/11/paris-theatre-longerm-lease-netflix-marriage-story-the-irishman-robert-solow-1202794519/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) Saw it today and yes it is a let down compared to Goodfellas or even Casino for that matter. Way too long as well. And dropping 20/30 years on DeNiro is not done very nicely as well. Edited November 27, 2019 by Bart Kamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Rob Couteau said: Netflix just saved the historic Paris Theatre, which was about to close in NY: https://deadline.com/2019/11/paris-theatre-longerm-lease-netflix-marriage-story-the-irishman-robert-solow-1202794519/ They need to create a new chain of existing theaters in NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Bart Kamp said: Saw it today and yes it is a let down compared to Goodfellas or even Casino for that matter. Way too long as well. And dropping 20/30 years on DeNiro is not done very nicely as well. Were you crushed as well as disappointed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Will 'The Irishman' Netflix Debut Ding Thanksgiving Box Office? https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/will-irishmans-netflix-debut-ding-thanksgiving-box-office-1257973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Marty's optioned the Judyth Vary Baker story to get a jump on Oliver Stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now