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Bill Greer's second wife worked for the NSA


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Wow---while doing my routine internet searches of former Secret Service agents and family members, I also check to see who has recently passed away (for the record, from the Dallas motorcade, only agents Clint Hill and Paul Landis are left).

I clicked on William Greer's Find-A-Grave site:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/17844947

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Then I clicked on his second wife's site:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/200944121/mary-elizabeth-greer

It was here that I found out that Mary Elizabeth (Finger [her maiden name]) Greer, Bill Greer's second wife, passed away recently: 7/6/2019, age 96.

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But here is the real startling information:

"In 1944, at the age of 21, Mary was recruited by the Department of Navy to work in Washington, DC ***where she lived in a women’s dormitory. In 1958, she began working for the National Security Agency (the NSA) in Fort Meade, Maryland, until she retired in 1973. "

In the NSA from 1958-1973! Her first husband, a WWII veteran buried in Arlington National Cemetery, died at the young age of 40 in 1966, just as Bill Greer was retiring from the Secret Service:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/49337589/joseph-c-wolfe

***Interestingly, Greer was in the Navy at this time, then he was assigned to FDR's yacht before entering the Secret Service...did Greer know his SECOND wife before marrying his FIRST wife?:

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Greer's first wife Ethel died in 1969. His only child--his son Richard (named after Bill's father)---had some very interesting things to say to me when I spoke to him in 1991 (see below).

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/crime/tyrone-born-jfk-driver-mired-in-conspiracy-was-in-orange-order-1-5699969

"In a new book – Survivor’s Guilt: The Secret Service and the Failure to Protect President Kennedy – author Vince Palamara dedicates a whole chapter to Greer, who he calls “the most important agent”.

After emigrating to the US in 1929 aged 19, farm labourer’s son William Robert Greer worked as a chauffeur in the Boston and New York areas before participating in the SecondWorld War with the US Navy in November 1942.

His final wartime posting was as a crew member on board the presidential yacht.

Drumbonaway lodge secretary Edgar Kirkpatrick said he was shocked to see Greer’s name on the records when asked to check by the News Letter.

“I have it all here in the lodge books. We have the records right the way to when the lodge was formed. We don’t have any Greers nowadays but I always remember my father talking about Richard Greer (Bill’s father) who was a servant man around here working for the farmers.

 

“But I didn’t know about his son at all until I read up in the books. There were a lot of people emigrating around that time and I notice from the lodge records that they were bought presents by the lodge – the man got a walking stick and the lady got an umbrella,” Mr Kirkpatrick said.

 

Within two weeks of discharge from the Navy in October 1945 Greer was sworn into the Secret Service.

He had been a favourite driver and bodyguard of both presidents Truman and Eisenhower before joining the Kennedy protection detail.

The lodge secretary said the membership has been told about the JFK connection but won’t believe it until they see it in print.

“They’re not taking it seriously, but I took an evening and read through all the books and it was interesting. I couldn’t believe he’d come from here and went on to drive for Kennedy,” Mr Kirkpatrick added.

The discovery of Greer’s Orange affiliations could breathe new life into the countless conspiracy theories that have sprung up around the assassination.

The Tyrone man’s Protestant upbringing was known to many commentators in the US, but the revelation about his Orange Order past could well add renewed vigour to the anti-Catholic conspiracy school of thought.

During a rare media interview in 1991, Greer’s only son Richard – who was born in the US – was asked by an American author: “What did your father think of JFK?”

He helped fuel the countless conspiracy theories when he responded: “Well, we’re Methodists – and JFK was Catholic.”

https://www.tyronetimes.co.uk/news/did-stewartstown-native-kill-jfk-1-1747006

"What the records do show is that a William Greer (21) sailed from Belfast to Quebec on the Cunard ship, 'Andania' as a third class passenger on 25th May 1929. His address was listed as Drumbanaway, Stewartstown, Co. Tyrone. A further record exists of a William Greer crossing into America at Vanceboro, Maine not long after that date.

The Stewartstown Greers feature heavily in the history of the Unionist Party, the Orange Order, and the UVF between 1912 and 1917. In 1916, a Thomas MacGregor Greer was commended in a letter from Sir Edward Carson for his help in recruiting battle casualty replacements for the 36th Ulster Division.

At the time of his retirement through ill health in 1966, William Greer had a sister, Ella Torrens, living in Dunmurry and several cousins living in Lisburn."

https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/did-irish-william-greer-cause-jfks-death

"His son, Richard Greer, was interviewed in 1991 and added to the conspiracy theory. When asked, "What did your father think of JFK?" Richard responded: "Well, we're Methodists... and JFK was Catholic

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6 hours ago, Keyvan Shahrdar said:

Are you able to ask him follow up questions?

No--he moved away and, like actual former agents from that time, I am persona non grata because of my books LOL

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