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My infected relative called our family today to report he was feeling better after 5 days.

He said he was feeling sore all over the first day. Feverish and weak the next few days.

His family will still be in quarantine for a time.

We are hoping he fully recovers and doesn't have one of those awful relapses.

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8 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

My infected relative called our family today to report he was feeling better after 5 days.

He said he was feeling sore all over the first day. Feverish and weak the next few days.

His family will still be in quarantine for a time.

We are hoping he fully recovers and doesn't have one of those awful relapses.

Joe,

May I ask if you know what they did to treat your relatives illness? Was he on a ventilator any drugs to help treat the illness?

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1 hour ago, Ty Carpenter said:

Joe,

May I ask if you know what they did to treat your relatives illness? Was he on a ventilator any drugs to help treat the illness?

Ty, I have no idea about medicines but he was never hospitalized so he wasn't on any ventilator.

I was not the one that talked to him.

I haven't personally spoken to him in about one years time.

"So far", it looks like he and his wife just weren't hit that hard.

However, with this unpredictable predator one must be cautious in any assumption of complete recovery.

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18 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:

Ty, I have no idea about medicines but he was never hospitalized so he wasn't on any ventilator.

I was not the one that talked to him.

I haven't personally spoken to him in about one years time.

"So far", it looks like he and his wife just weren't hit that hard.

However, with this unpredictable predator one must be cautious in any assumption of complete recovery.

Well I am glad he appears to be moving in the right direction. Unpredictable is right. I have not personally known anyone that has had the virus and hope it stays that way!

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Back in March, one of the Chinese health ministers (various Chinese media) started making noise that the Wuhan Virus originated at the Military Games held their last October.

The US team (about 280 Athletes) did very poorly at the event and apparently a few were too sick to participate. One of the participants for the USA team was Maatje Benassi (she is the one to watch for now.)

 

March 12 - Military.com Chinese Official Says US Army May Have 'Brought the Epidemic to Wuhan'

March 25 - Global Times (Chinese Newspaper in EnglishUS urged to release health info of military athletes who came to Wuhan in October 2019

April 27 - Daily Mail - US Army reservist at center of Chinese conspiracy theories that claim SHE brought virus to Wuhan during military games last year as patient zero - and now fears for her family's life - CNN dismisses as conspiracy theory. Interview with Maatje Benassi.

The Past few days, stories have started to come out that the European Athletes became sick last October (see below.) As of yet, there is little or no information about the US team's health last October. 

May 7 - Football Italia - Athletes: 'Sick in Wuhan back in October' 

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That tournament took place in Wuhan from October 17-27, 2019.

“We all got sick, six out of six in our apartment, and we also heard from many other delegations who got ill too,” Olympic gold medallist fencer Matteo Tagliariol told La Repubblica.

“The medics there had almost run out of supplies, Valerio Aspromonte stayed in bed almost the whole time. I had a fever and cough for three weeks and antibiotics did nothing. Then it spread to my son and my girlfriend.

May 8French Athletes sick at Wuhan Games (similar to article previously posted.)

May 8 - "The Olive Press" - SPANISH athletes returned from the World Military Games in Wuhan in October having displayed coronavirus symptoms.

 

 

So, what does all of this mean gentlemen? 

 

 

 

Depending on how your browser is set up, you might have to manually click "translate to English" for some of the articles.

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This world threatening virus could easily spur a wave of conspiracy thought, talk and anxiety beyond any event in our lifetimes if it continues to spread and kill and destabilize entire economies and social orders to almost unbelievable degrees and without a cure for a period of time beyond just months.

In just 4 months alone it has shaken the world in every major medical, political, economic and social way. International trade has been greatly impeded and international travel has nearly come to a stop.

In our own country we are seeing economic stress numbers rivaling those of the great Depression.

We are living in a stressful and depressing social distancing situation beyond anything we have ever imagined except in scary Sci-fi movies or bad dreams.

Here at home and world wide there seems to be a common anxiety bordering on post traumatic stress levels.

I myself am having dreams that are the most bizarre and disturbing I can ever recall.

I am washing my hands more often than someone afflicted with Obsessive-Compulsive disorder!

I am constantly wiping down everything I see including door nobs, table tops, phones, remote controls, lap top keyboards, steering wheels, transmission gear handles, toilet seats and flush handles, pot handles, glasses, grocery store cart handles and just bought grocery containers even my favorite nut cracker and back scratcher!

Heck ... even the containers of our disinfectant wipes! 

It's bordering on manic madness!

Every little pain, itch, twitch, tired feeling, soreness, body warmth, increased heart beat rate, stomach cramp etc. has me worrying " Dear God...do I finally have it ?"

Despite this craziness the one area of thought I refuse to allow my already stressed out and exhausted psyche to wander is the conspiracy realm.

To do so seems like it might be a final line we need not cross for our own mental stability to get through this stressful struggle.

I recently read about the murder of a Chinese born medical researcher living in Pittsburgh, PA ( not sure if he was a naturalized citizen ) who it was reported was making significant strides in the study of a coronavirus vaccine. He was supposedly shot to death by a friend of his who happened to be a fellow science educated professional person  (  in another field ) who also was Chinese born.

This other man was found in his murdered friend's car not far from the murder scene, himself shot dead, reportedly by his own hand.

Now, if one wanted to, this incident alone could be looked upon as so highly intriguing as to trigger a conspiracy theory all by itself.

So many questions because of their fields of study, their shared ethnic heritage, their close friendship status, their histories not showing such extreme personal behavior and on and on.

I am resisting giving this strange but intriguing event any more thought. 

As I am any other Covid-19 origin and purpose conspiracy talk or ideas.

After worrying about this virus right outside my door everyday and night, as well as a President who seems to be mishandling it all with mostly antagonistic, divisive and dangerous science ignoring non-leadership, I just don't have the energy.

However, I would like to add this final whimsical thought that I "have" entertained about this entire humanity threatening crisis mixed with my one allowed conspiracy belief ( besides the JFK, RFK and MLK murder ones) and that is ...

If we do indeed have an ET presence here on Earth and we are in contact with them and their supposed super-advanced technological knowledge is real...couldn't we ask them for "just a little" help in finding a cure for this death virus threatening our entire species?

 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:

This world threatening virus could easily spur a wave of conspiracy thought, talk and anxiety beyond any event in our lifetimes if it continues to spread and kill and destabilize entire economies and social orders to almost unbelievable degrees and without a cure for a period of time beyond just months.

In just 4 months alone it has shaken the world in every major medical, political, economic and social way. International trade has been greatly impeded and international travel has nearly come to a stop.

In our own country we are seeing economic stress numbers rivaling those of the great Depression.

We are living in a stressful and depressing social distancing situation beyond anything we have ever imagined except in scary Sci-fi movies or bad dreams.

Here at home and world wide there is seems to be a common anxiety bordering on post traumatic stress levels.

I myself am having dreams that are the most bizarre and disturbing I can ever recall.

I am washing my hands more often than someone afflicted with Obsessive-Compulsive disorder.

I am constantly wiping down everything I see including door nobs, table tops, phones, remote controls, lap top keyboards, steering wheels, transmission gear handles, toilet seats and flush handles, pot handles, glasses, grocery store cart handles and just bought grocery containers, tooth paste and Preparation H containers, even my favorite nut cracker and back scratcher!

Heck ... even the containers of our disinfectant wipes! 

It's bordering on madness!

Every little pain, itch, twitch, tired feeling, soreness, increased heart beat rate, stomach cramp, loose stool and even unexpected flatulence has me worrying " Dear God...do I finally have "it!"

Despite this craziness the one area of thought I refuse to allow my already stressed out psyche wander is the conspiracy realm.

To do so seems like it might be a final line we need not cross for our own mental stability to get through this stressful struggle.

I recently read about the murder of a Chinese born medical researcher living in Pittsburg, PA ( not sure if he was a naturalized citizen ) who it was reported was making significant strides in the study of a coronavirus vaccine. He was supposedly shot to death by a friend of his who happened to be a fellow science educated professional person  (  in another field ) who also was Chinese born.

This other man was found in his murdered friend's car not far from the murder scene, himself shot dead, reportedly by his own hand.

Now, if one wanted to, this incident alone could be looked upon as so highly intriguing as to trigger a conspiracy theory all by itself.

So many questions because of their fields of study, their shared ethnic heritage, their friend status, their histories not showing such extreme personal behavior and on and on.

I am resisting giving this strange but intriguing event any more thought. 

As I am any other Covid-19 origin and purpose conspiracy talk or ideas.

After worrying about this virus right outside my door everyday as well as a President who seems to be mishandling it all with mostly antagonistic, divisive and dangerous science ignoring non-leadership, I just don't have the energy.

I would like to add this final whimsical thought I "have" entertained about this entire humanity threatening crisis mixed with my one allowed conspiracy belief ( besides the JFK, RFK and MLK ones) and that is ...

If we do indeed have an ET presence here on Earth and we are in contact with them and their supposed mega-advanced technological knowledge is real...couldn't we ask them for just a little help in finding a cure for this death virus threatening our entire species?

 

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

This world threatening virus could easily spur a wave of conspiracy thought, talk and anxiety beyond any event in our lifetimes if it continues to spread and kill and destabilize entire economies and social orders to almost unbelievable degrees and without a cure for a period of time beyond just months.

In just 4 months alone it has shaken the world in every major medical, political, economic and social way. International trade has been greatly impeded and international travel has nearly come to a stop.

In our own country we are seeing economic stress numbers rivaling those of the great Depression.

We are living in a stressful and depressing social distancing situation beyond anything we have ever imagined except in scary Sci-fi movies or bad dreams.

Here at home and world wide there seems to be a common anxiety bordering on post traumatic stress levels.

I myself am having dreams that are the most bizarre and disturbing I can ever recall.

I am washing my hands more often than someone afflicted with Obsessive-Compulsive disorder.

I am constantly wiping down everything I see including door nobs, table tops, phones, remote controls, lap top keyboards, steering wheels, transmission gear handles, toilet seats and flush handles, pot handles, glasses, grocery store cart handles and just bought grocery containers even my favorite nut cracker and back scratcher!

Heck ... even the containers of our disinfectant wipes! 

It's bordering on madness!

Every little pain, itch, twitch, tired feeling, soreness, body warmth, increased heart beat rate, stomach cramp etc. has me worrying " Dear God...do I finally have it ?"

Despite this craziness the one area of thought I refuse to allow my already stressed out and exhausted psyche to wander is the conspiracy realm.

To do so seems like it might be a final line we need not cross for our own mental stability to get through this stressful struggle.

I recently read about the murder of a Chinese born medical researcher living in Pittsburgh, PA ( not sure if he was a naturalized citizen ) who it was reported was making significant strides in the study of a coronavirus vaccine. He was supposedly shot to death by a friend of his who happened to be a fellow science educated professional person  (  in another field ) who also was Chinese born.

This other man was found in his murdered friend's car not far from the murder scene, himself shot dead, reportedly by his own hand.

Now, if one wanted to, this incident alone could be looked upon as so highly intriguing as to trigger a conspiracy theory all by itself.

So many questions because of their fields of study, their shared ethnic heritage, their friend status, their histories not showing such extreme personal behavior and on and on.

I am resisting giving this strange but intriguing event any more thought. 

As I am any other Covid-19 origin and purpose conspiracy talk or ideas.

After worrying about this virus right outside my door everyday as well as a President who seems to be mishandling it all with mostly antagonistic, divisive and dangerous science ignoring non-leadership, I just don't have the energy.

I would like to add this final whimsical thought I "have" entertained about this entire humanity threatening crisis mixed with my one allowed conspiracy belief ( besides the JFK, RFK and MLK murder ones) and that is ...

If we do indeed have an ET presence here on Earth and we are in contact with them and their supposed super-advanced technological knowledge is real...couldn't we ask them for "just a little" help in finding a cure for this death virus threatening our entire species?

 

 

 

 

ET phone the pharmacy!

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W., have you seen this one from a few miles South of you?  Maybe the county should have sent in the swat team there to shut them down.

The bit in the middle about the barber shop in Michigan is interesting.  Armed militia guarding the door to prevent a possible arrest?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/colorado-restaurant-that-illegally-reopened-without-social-distancing-now-ordered-to-close/ar-BB13TpNm

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50 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said:

W., have you seen this one from a few miles South of you?  Maybe the county should have sent in the swat team there to shut them down.

The bit in the middle about the barber shop in Michigan is interesting.  Armed militia guarding the door to prevent a possible arrest?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/colorado-restaurant-that-illegally-reopened-without-social-distancing-now-ordered-to-close/ar-BB13TpNm

The Castle Rock story has been big news around here today, Ron.

That community is located in fairly affluent, conservative Douglas County, which voted 70% for Trump, Romney, McCain, Bush, etc.

The country certainly seems divided on the issue of COVID-19 lock downs along partisan, political lines.

What bothers me the most about the current Trump anti-lock down mentality is its ideological rejection of scientific expertise.

It reminds me of the climate change denialism in right wing political circles.

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Can anyone imagine Kennedy doing this?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-ends-coronavirus-briefing-female-reporters_n_5eb9c144c5b6a0e85a758f36

BTW, I agree about this becoming political with Florida not reporting its numbers anymore.  DeSantis is saying, so what!  We're opening up and what you don't know won't hurt Trump.

Nice governor Ron.  Did you vote for him? 

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35 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said:

The Castle Rock story has been big news around here today, Ron.

That community is located in fairly affluent, conservative Douglas County, which voted 70% for Trump, Romney, McCain, Bush, etc.

The country certainly seems divided on the issue of COVID-19 lock downs along partisan, political lines.

What bothers me the most about the current Trump anti-lock down mentality is its ideological rejection of scientific expertise.

It reminds me of the climate change denialism in right wing political circles.

What bothers me, as bad as change is needed on climate denialism is, is the even greater IMMEDIATE need for Scientific Expertise to combat the coronavirus.  It is being suppressed and denied to US by the 1% of capital interests.  Their MSM fails to report prominently, daily, the true statistics and impact of the ongoing spread of the virus.  Which, while scary and ultimately horrible, only makes the problem worse.

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46 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said:

Can anyone imagine Kennedy doing this?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-ends-coronavirus-briefing-female-reporters_n_5eb9c144c5b6a0e85a758f36

BTW, I agree about this becoming political with Florida not reporting its numbers anymore.  DeSantis is saying, so what!  We're opening up and what you don't know won't hurt Trump.

Nice governor Ron.  Did you vote for him? 

No numbers in Florida or made up numbers in NY. Take your pick.

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When Romney and Pelosi start calling for President Trump to bomb China into the Stone Age for creating and unleashing the Wuhan virus, then you’ll know it came out of Ft. Detrick.

 

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1 hour ago, James DiEugenio said:

Can anyone imagine Kennedy doing this?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-ends-coronavirus-briefing-female-reporters_n_5eb9c144c5b6a0e85a758f36

BTW, I agree about this becoming political with Florida not reporting its numbers anymore.  DeSantis is saying, so what!  We're opening up and what you don't know won't hurt Trump.

Nice governor Ron.  Did you vote for him? 

No, I can't imagine JFK getting so frustrated with female reporters, even in this mess, that he just walks off.  I live in Texas, didn't vote for DeSantis or Abbott.

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