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Two protesters shot dead by alleged "militia" group patrolling Kenosha last night:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/26/jacob-blake-shooting-gun-battle-in-kenosha-on-third-night-of-unrest

Note to murderous police: Please keep it in your pants to avoid rioting, OK?

In this Kenosha photo, we've apparently gone back to the days of shields with spikes hammered through them, like barbarians carried in 1950s Roman Empire movies.  Perhaps the situation warrants barbarism:

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10 minutes ago, David Andrews said:

Double post, please delete.  I keep on mistaking the Quote button for the Edit button, which used to be next to Quote.

 

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24 minutes ago, David Andrews said:

 

In this Kenosha photo, we've apparently gone back to the days of shields with spikes hammered through them, like barbarians carried in 1950s Roman Empire movies.  Perhaps the situation warrants barbarism:

 

David,

To me, it seems apropos that he's standing next to a garbage dump.

Steve Thomas

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11 minutes ago, Steve Thomas said:

David,

To me, it seems apropos that he's standing next to a garbage dump.

Steve Thomas

Well, the days of the Paris Commune are over, so the barricades have to be made of dumpsters instead of broken horse carts.  I don't deny them their need for barricades.

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Still think people don't need shields out there?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/aug/26/donald-trump-republican-national-convention-rnc-coronavirus-covid-19-kenosha-jacob-blake-live-updates

A white, 17-year-old police admirer was arrested Wednesday in the killing of two people during a third night of protests in Kenosha over the police shooting of a Black man, Jacob Blake.

Kyle Rittenhouse, of Antioch, Illinois, was taken into custody in Illinois on suspicion of first-degree intentional homicide.

Two people were killed Tuesday night in an attack carried out by a young white man who was caught on cellphone video opening fire in the middle of the street with a semi-automatic rifle.

Antioch is about 15 miles from Kenosha, which has seen three straight nights of unrest since Blake was wounded by police over the weekend.

Two people were killed Tuesday night in an attack carried out by a young white man who was caught on cellphone video opening fire in the middle of the street with a semi-automatic rifle.

“I just killed somebody,” he could be heard saying at one point during the shooting rampage that erupted just before midnight.

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We can add this one to the list of over 60 incidents this summer in which homicidal, right wing nuts have driven their vehicles into crowds of BLM protesters.

And Donald Trump has never, to my knowledge, condemned the epidemic of white, right wing violence that he launched in this country in 2015.

In fact, his presidency has been deliberately predicated on racial strife and the denigration and scape-goating of minorities, immigrants, and "liberals."

Even Donald Trump knows enough arithmetic to realize that a majority of voters are Caucasians.

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5 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

We can add this one to the list of over 60 incidents this summer in which homicidal, right wing nuts have driven their vehicles into crowds of BLM protesters.

Niederhut, you lost that narrative about two months ago.

The only people that are pushing the idea that BLM is comprised of Black People Protesting are the unwashed white kids lighting dumpsters on fire and the 8 or 9 guys here on the JFK forum that don't appreciate the hilarity of their virtue signaling as actual privileged middle aged white guys. (I think some of are even members of the academy; talk about privilege turned up to 11.)

If it turned out the same people who did 9/11 are the same people who invented Russiagate and pushed the impeachment debacle, would you try to pin it on Trump?

UF6

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19 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said:

Niederhut, you lost that narrative about two months ago.

The only people that are pushing the idea that BLM is comprised of Black People Protesting are the unwashed white kids lighting dumpsters on fire and the 8 or 9 guys here on the JFK forum that don't appreciate the hilarity of their virtue signaling as actual privileged middle aged white guys. (I think some of are even members of the academy; talk about privilege turned up to 11.)

If it turned out the same people who did 9/11 are the same people who invented Russiagate and pushed the impeachment debacle, would you try to pin it on Trump?

UF6

 

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Mr. Wheeler - please cease and desist. That you can’t muster one word of condemnation for the youth who opened fire on protestors speaks volumes. Your historical posts are interesting, and I’ve responded favorably to them in the past as you know. But your callous comments when people are dying need to be condemned, so let me be the first to call you out. 
 

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2 minutes ago, Paul Brancato said:

Mr. Wheeler - please cease and desist. That you can’t muster one word of condemnation for the youth who opened fire on protestors speaks volumes. Your historical posts are interesting, and I’ve responded favorably to them in the past as you know. But your callous comments when people are dying need to be condemned, so let me be the first to call you out. 
 

"Cease and desist." Really Paul? I was was drinking milk with my Oreos when I read that and it almost came out of my nose.

Here you are, on the JFK Forum, seemingly cognizant a conspiracy killed JFK. You seem to have an appreciation for other "non-official" narratives surrounding historical events. I don't think you believe the official 9/11 story for example.

Nevertheless, despite your awareness of the Mainstream Media's precedence to manipulate the public and protect the powerful you choose to still swallow their current concocted narrative, even with the real-time availability of evidence, news, video, and non-MSM accounts to the contrary.

You keep swallowing the blue pill. You would rather exist in a dream-state where every worldly assumption you had about good and evil confirms your political preference. You are not in the minority Paul, you are part of the majority. However, unlike the purple haired 19 year old girl throwing bags of dog doo at Portland Cops, you know that the MSM always shapes a narrative, that it takes real money and power to obfuscate the search for JFK's killers for 57 years; that the Mark Zaids of the world exist, and other Mark Zaids of the world exist and that most will never be detected.

So, how organic are the riots now? We're they ever entirely organic since the day they started?

NPR said a militia person shot three last night in Kenosha.

Am I supposed to take NPR at its word? I guess I'm a callous cynic, but if I wasn't, the alternative is to walk around clueless, like a purple haired girl with a bag of dog doo, or purposefully intellectually dishonest, so as to protect my life's worth of world views from the stark realization that I was wrong.

I don't know what happened in Kenosha. At this point though, if NPR is going to insist on describing the 17 year old as a wannabee militia man, and the people he shot as innocent protesters, then I would be as intellectually dishonest as you in not suspecting he was protecting his own life, and the people he shot were going to kill him.

Good for the kid. How's that for callousness? You can lay the blame with NPR though. You can also lay the blame on NPR the next time some 20 year Antifa kid loses his face to a 12 gauge because he broke the wrong store window, or was part of a group that stopped the wrong car out of a lack appreciation for the drivers unwillingness to put up with this xxxx any longer.

The police have been told to stand down. Ordinary people are arming themselves like the next Civil War is coming. They are done with idiotic mask mandates, closed businesses, and gutter punk posers smashing windows. The Antifa kids are being led to slaughter.  The DNC and MSM will try to make hay out of the blood of pasty white kids in the streets. That's the only card they have left. Buy a gun Paul. Buy bullets if you can find any for sale.

 

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2 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said:

Niederhut, you lost that narrative about two months ago.

The only people that are pushing the idea that BLM is comprised of Black People Protesting are the unwashed white kids lighting dumpsters on fire and the 8 or 9 guys here on the JFK forum that don't appreciate the hilarity of their virtue signaling as actual privileged middle aged white guys. (I think some of are even members of the academy; talk about privilege turned up to 11.)

If it turned out the same people who did 9/11 are the same people who invented Russiagate and pushed the impeachment debacle, would you try to pin it on Trump?

UF6

Rob,

You missed the point entirely, as usual, and then proceeded to create a straw man counter-argument.

As a general rule, I tend to avoid engaging in debates with you for this very reason.

My above comment isn't about the racial composition of crowds of BLM and George Floyd protesters.

It's about Trump's history of inciting racial conflict and white supremacist violence in the U.S. since 2015-- so-called "stochastic terrorism," an old Nazi trick.

The data is overwhelming.  Study the stats on the incidence of white supremacist hate crimes in the U.S. -- against Latinos, blacks, and other ethnic minorities-- since Trump began to publicly denigrate Mexicans, Muslims, and blacks in 2015.

And explain to us why Trump told NFL owners that attacking Colin Kaepernick and the BLM protesters, "Lifts me."

I'll wait.

 

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Well, Wheeler certainly had a chance to humanize himself to you Paul. It's what I expected. You tried!

It's curious you're mentioning this now Paul. But this callousness as you put it has been going on from the beginning, always trying to shock people with inhumane statements. Wheeler would have some think that the only reason people are put off with him is because he thinks he's the only one here who  likes Trump. But from the beginning he's never really approached any of us with any real earnestness, any real sincerity. I'd say he probably approaches everyone that way. As I don't see him as having any other real  associations. He lives here. He wears his callousness and his cruelty to some members, as sort of badge of courage, confident that as "good liberals'.  We'll all let him have his say.  Obviously, I'm not that liberal, and some of us like to shoot back. But he's really given more of a long term pass for his behavior than anyone I've seen here.

I see him just as he responded, an angry guy, in his general posts, extremely jealous and investigating anyone whose ever really accomplished anything in their lives.

Paul I remember years back, you announced you were quitting the forum, I thought  it was really largely because of one person,who was a a boorish bully, but was he really as overtly angry, isolated and uncivil as Wheeler?

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32 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said:

Rob,

You missed the point entirely, as usual, and then proceeded to create a straw man counter-argument.

As a general rule, I tend to avoid engaging in debates with you for this very reason.

My above comment isn't about the racial composition of crowds of BLM and George Floyd protesters.

It's about Trump's history of inciting racial conflict and white supremacist violence in the U.S. since 2015-- so-called "stochastic terrorism," an old Nazi trick.

The data is overwhelming.  Study the stats on the incidence of white supremacist hate crimes in the U.S. -- against Latinos, blacks, and other ethnic minorities-- since Trump began to publicly denigrate Mexicans, Muslims, and blacks in 2015.

And explain to us why Trump told NFL owners that attacking Colin Kaepernick and the BLM protesters, "Lifts me."

I'll wait.

 

I’m still waiting for your UF6 story.

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Here's video of Kyle Rittenhouse running away after shooting a protestor, falling in the street, and then pointing his gun at a protestor who seems to be trying to apprehend him.  From the pavement, he shoots two more protesters, which is edited out except for gunshot sounds.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/kenosha-shooting-one-officer-fired-all-seven-shots-into-jacob-blakes-back-teen-arrested-in-killing-of-protesters/ar-BB18okCy?li=BBnb7Kz 

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3 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

Mr. Wheeler - please cease and desist. That you can’t muster one word of condemnation for the youth who opened fire on protestors speaks volumes. Your historical posts are interesting, and I’ve responded favorably to them in the past as you know. But your callous comments when people are dying need to be condemned, so let me be the first to call you out. 
 

I tried to note out the callous part a few months back regarding people dying to no avail.

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