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Most of the participants here know I like to go at it with Niederhut (he does make a solid and coherent effort) and Paul (because I think he can be saved). Even Bob Ness has a sense of humor, at least implying an absence of the kind of bitterness Kirk gets the ignore button for.

On this whole RFK Jr. fight with Bill Gates, I want to hear from Jim. 

RFK Jr. has been calling out Gates and his Globalist medical Marshall law agenda, allies, agitators and for months and the biggest JFK "fan boy" in the forum seems silent on the last relevant Kennedy's efforts. 

So Jim, do you think RFK Jr. is just another "anti-science" conspiracy kook, fighting an imagined Globalist Cabal, that maybe is guided by the same oligarchical agenda that was ultimately the impetus for his father and uncle's assassination? 

Or do you think RFK Jr. is justified in his concerns, that the Gates Globalist crowd has shown a willingness to treat Third World populations as Guinea pigs, exaggerate the benefits of vaccines and under-report the dangers, and implement citizen monitoring technology under the guise of preventing pandemics? 

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1 hour ago, Robert Wheeler said:

the kind of bitterness Kirk gets the ignore button for.

Wheeler takes cheap shots from behind his ignore button.  For a guy who has declared civil war he sure seems adverse to a fire fight.  Typical right-wing fecklessness.

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On 8/28/2020 at 7:59 AM, Paul Brancato said:

I believe so. And btw the way, Robert, I most certainly do condemn Antifa, a covert operation if I ever saw one. 
 

Condemn Antifa for what?

It’s a highly decentralized ideological movement, Paul.  
 
Anti-fascists linked to zero murders in the US in 25 years

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-attacks-deaths-database-leftwing-antifa

Donald Trump has made warnings about the threat of antifa and “far-left fascism” a central part of his re-election campaign. But in reality leftwing attacks have left far fewer people dead than violence by rightwing extremists, new research indicates, and antifa activists have not been linked to a single murder in decades.

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https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/07/30/anarchists-and-antifa-not-according-to-the-data/

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On 8/27/2020 at 11:01 AM, Robert Wheeler said:

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Did you see the photos and videos of the kid being chased?

He is shown being hit by a skateboard.

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You can't look at any of this from a left/right, liberal/conservative, lens.

reviewing some of the footage of the 17yr old, it's not a stretch that the kid thought there's some here that are gonna shoot back, maybe? -- or, in this case swing a skateboard at least--and he'd best get the hell out of there before a real *medic* in body armor remove him in pieces. I, don't think the kid expected resistance of any type. After all, he had an (non auto AR15?) assault weapon.

If, he had a plan to protect civilian property, it went to **** when the trigger, was pulled.  Ending up on his ass, in the middle of a well lit street didn't help his cause either, nor his pursuers (1 death/1 wounded?). When he saw the local police it appears he ran toward them for protection? The police were in armored vehicles heading toward the action. He was trying to flee the scene.

edit:  https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/-dangerous-right-wing-defends-teenage-trump-fan-who-killed-2-protesters-90820677641

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5 hours ago, David G. Healy said:

reviewing some of the footage of the 17yr old, it's not a stretch that the kid thought there's some here that are gonna shoot back, maybe? -- or, in this case swing a skateboard at least--and he'd best get the hell out of there before a real *medic* in body armor remove him in pieces. I, don't think the kid expected resistance of any type. After all, he had an (non auto AR15?) assault weapon.

If, he had a plan to protect civilian property, it went to **** when the trigger, was pulled.  Ending up on his ass, in the middle of a well lit street didn't help his cause either, nor his pursuers (1 death/1 wounded?). When he saw the local police it appears he ran toward them for protection? The police were in armored vehicles heading toward the action. He was trying to flee the scene.

edit:  https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/-dangerous-right-wing-defends-teenage-trump-fan-who-killed-2-protesters-90820677641

Incomprehensible.

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6 hours ago, Cliff Varnell said:

Condemn Antifa for what?

It’s a highly decentralized ideological movement, Paul.  
 
Anti-fascists linked to zero murders in the US in 25 years

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-attacks-deaths-database-leftwing-antifa

Donald Trump has made warnings about the threat of antifa and “far-left fascism” a central part of his re-election campaign. But in reality leftwing attacks have left far fewer people dead than violence by rightwing extremists, new research indicates, and antifa activists have not been linked to a single murder in decades.

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https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/07/30/anarchists-and-antifa-not-according-to-the-data/

This may be an area we disagree on. It is true that in modern times anarchists and left wing activists have been far less violent, but Antifa, by committing violent acts against property, gives law and order Republicans and Trump an easy target. You call it decentralized, I call it hidden sponsors. Antifa’s activities only help the Right and hurt the cause they claim to espouse. Know the tree by it’s fruits. 
 

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1 hour ago, Paul Brancato said:

This may be an area we disagree on. It is true that in modern times anarchists and left wing activists have been far less violent, but Antifa, by committing violent acts against property, gives law and order Republicans and Trump an easy target. You call it decentralized, I call it hidden sponsors. Antifa’s activities only help the Right and hurt the cause they claim to espouse. Know the tree by it’s fruits. 
 

Paul,

      I have supported the Black Lives Matter movement in principle (sans rioting) since the Ferguson disaster, but I agree with your general point about these protests playing into Trump's hands in 2020.  Nothing would undermine Trump's phony "law and order" candidacy more than the protesters taking a break during the next 70 days.  For one thing, Trump wants frightened white people to think that this election is about race and riot control.  (He can't very well run on his COVID disaster and $3 trillion dollar budget deficit for 2020.)

     I think it was Martin Luther King, Jr. who once said that a riot is the "language of the unheard."   That, certainly, seems to be the case for the George Floyd/Jacob Blake riots-- so Biden and Harris should try to reach out to the protesters to calm things down, while letting them know that they are being heard, and that constructive reform of America's corrupt, racist police departments will only happen when Trump is removed from the White House to jail, where he belongs.

      Not sure whether that is feasible.  How does anyone calm down an angry mob?

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In the meantime, the CDC says only 6% of Covid related deaths were Covid only deaths. That is, 94% of the deaths also had a co-morbidity.

Boy are people going to be pissed off when they find out the whole economic shut down was for nothing.

I don't think they are going to blame the Orange man.

 

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1 hour ago, Paul Brancato said:

This may be an area we disagree on. It is true that in modern times anarchists and left wing activists have been far less violent, but Antifa, by committing violent acts against property, gives law and order Republicans and Trump an easy target. You call it decentralized, I call it hidden sponsors. Antifa’s activities only help the Right and hurt the cause they claim to espouse. Know the tree by it’s fruits. 
 

Paul, how many people associated with Antifa have been arrested for violent acts against property in the last 3 months?  I know there was a group in NYC, but other than that it appears few and far between.

If the “deep state” is sponsoring Antifa violence it’s not getting its money’s worth.

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Before Cliff gets all bent out of shape and tries to claim that the protests were an organic response by black people just looking for justice from intrinsic racism of the local law enforcement authorities, just remember that the 4 belligerents in the Battle of Kenosha were all white, and the biggest loud mouth, the Rosenbaum felon, is on video calling every one within earshot, the "N" word.

Maybe Cliff can ask a black friend if it is ever the right time and place for a white guy to use the "N" word. 

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Hey Cliff, you might want to stop drinking from the same fountain that you use as a bathroom. Your MSM info. sources are as useless as the corporate funded Alt-Left sites you think are "stickin to the man."

Expand your mind man. There is actual information out there.

Antifa Arrest Portland - https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1299631543011303425

Antifa Arrest - https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1299812344373993472

Antifa Arrests - 

 

 

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Wheeler:the kind of bitterness Kirk gets the ignore button for.
 
Whose bitter?
 heh heh     To hear Wheeler tell it, he hasn't read a post of mine in 3 months, so why the obsession to talk about me?
 
Now Raging Queen and crack researcher Wheeler is a Gates expert. While only 3 months ago,  in this clip, he mistook a 50 year Bill Gates with this near college age  actor conveniently just out of range of the camera, supposedly briefing the CIA of his diabolical plot to gene edit all carriers of the gene that predisposes people toward religious belief, and wipe them from the face of the earth! and actually posted it here!
This Gates plot against religion has become Wheeler's obsession as of late, further fueled by Hannity and Trump's assertion that fewer people are saying the word "Christmas" now during the Holidays!
 
You can't make this stuff up, but actually they do knowing there are Wheelers out there who will snatch it and quickly bring it to us to seek praise, much as a cat may bring a dead bird to his masters to show it's prowess!
heh heh
 
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