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35 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

Cliff, that guys got to be an actor.

 

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From things I've read today many still don't get it.  The president is in the hospital seriously ill with the plague that's killed 200,000 in the USA.  His advisors, assistants, wife, campaign manager, Senators, over a dozen in close contact have tested positive.  The bellicose bs'er may well hopefully recover, and lead the faithful through this.  But odd's are out of a dozen a couple or three could have a tough time, lasting effects.  Not impossible someone could perish, some are older, likely a little infirm.  I just can't see the last 30 day's before the election playing out as anyone might have predicted.

A recovered prez rallying the troops the last two weeks, that sympathy bit?  

Driving through town after a later (6:30) trip to the grocery store with not a lot of people there, I noticed the dine in restaurant's  parking lots were packed.  Social distancing impossible.  Can't eat or drink with a mask on.  Libations encourage conversation, sometimes louder, spewing more particles.  Many things should be restricted to get the 40,000 new cases a day down, significantly, imho.  But the widely varying restaurant policies are a pet peeve.  Numbers aren't going down, they're going up.  

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/trumps-infection-is-part-of-an-ominous-national-trend-as-cases-rise-in-most-states/ar-BB19EKvN?li=BBnb7Kz

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W.said:  Someone I know suggested earlier today that it's karma, but I think it has more to do with stupidity, and a narcissistic delusion of invincibility.

It's all true, everything that happens to you is your karma. Trump's stupidity and his narcissistic delusion of invincibility is his karma, and the inevitable result is his karma.

Ron said:"If his getting sick saves at least one more person from dying, it is worth it."

Philosopher, John Stuart Mill,  proponent of utilitarianism said: bring about 'the greatest amount of good for the greatest number'.

I have no doubt if Trump died of natural causes at the beginning of this year. Mike Pence as President's style would have been much more orthodox, and the number of deaths would probably be half. Pence has spent his whole term cowering to a bully, but probably does have the fear of God in him, and is more apt to listen to people who were smarter than him. Trump is  the worst President we could have had at this time of crisis. And the general unity of the nation that Trump exploited was also at it's worse time for such a national crisis.

As far as saving the greatest number of people from  covid death in the next 4 months. At this point, Trump's prompt death would save the greatest number of people, because the Republicans will back off in their resistance and there will be a prompt flood of money toward fighting the pandemic. A quick recovery, knowing Trump and his delusion of invincibility, would save the fewest number. Trump getting worse, then recovering might shock him  into being more compassionate, but if then he loses the election and possibly faces jail time, knowing Trump, what would be Trump's motivation to help anyone else?

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10 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

W.said:  Someone I know suggested earlier today that it's karma, but I think it has more to do with stupidity, and a narcissistic delusion of invincibility.

It's all true, everything that happens to you is your karma. Trump's stupidity and his narcissistic delusion of invincibility is his karma, and the inevitable result is his karma.

Ron said:"If his getting sick saves at least one more person from dying, it is worth it."

Philosopher, John Stuart Mill,  proponent of utilitarianism said: bring about 'the greatest amount of good for the greatest number'.

Kirk,

      The main difference between utilitarianism and Trumpism is that Trumpism tries bring about the greatest good for the smallest number.  🤥

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How does the Texas attorney general use "the power of his office to coerce a Colorado county into allowing one of his top donors back into their vacation home earlier this year."  A quaint cabin in remote Tin Cup when Gunnison county was locked down earlier this year?  One of W's summer neighbors?  Or something in Aspen, Vail, Crested Bute, To Hell You Ride?  I'm curious how, and where?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-demand-resignation-of-attorney-general-ken-paxton-who-led-anti-obamacare-lawsuits/ar-BB19J73g?ocid=uxbndlbing

This could be newsworthy in Colorado as well as Texas.

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13 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

How does the Texas attorney general use "the power of his office to coerce a Colorado county into allowing one of his top donors back into their vacation home earlier this year."  A quaint cabin in remote Tin Cup when Gunnison county was locked down earlier this year?  One of W's summer neighbors?  Or something in Aspen, Vail, Crested Bute, To Hell You Ride?  I'm curious how, and where?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-republicans-demand-resignation-of-attorney-general-ken-paxton-who-led-anti-obamacare-lawsuits/ar-BB19J73g?ocid=uxbndlbing

This could be newsworthy in Colorado as well as Texas.

Ron,

      Like most of the numerous rural counties in Colorado, Gunnison County has always been solidly Republican.

      My hunch is that Ken Paxton's wealthy donor owns a posh property in Crested Butte.

      The only multi-millionaires in Tin Cup are a family who struck oil in Midland, Texas back in the day.

     

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Professor Alan Lichtman of American University Washington DC,  who has correctly predicted the US election results since Kennedy gives the 2020 victory to the Democrats.

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I should post this on the 56 years topic but anything there is getting buried by bs at the moment.

A historic day, second one in a row.  Yesterday a Black Woman on the VP stage.  Today something else I never remember happening in my lifetime or reading about in our history.  A state militia planning to kidnap a Governor, blow up a bridge, kill cops in the process, hold her hostage, for a trial?  In these United States.  Insane.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/this-is-a-system-blinking-red-moment-attorneys-blame-plot-to-kidnap-gov-whitmer-on-trump-s-rhetoric/ar-BB19PPQT 

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     There's a truly shocking new Pew Research survey out this week documenting the differing perceptions about the management of the COVID pandemic in the U.S. between Republican Fox News viewers and Democrats.

     It's an alarming example of the Orwellian effects of mass media disinformation on public perceptions.

About two-thirds of Republicans say the U.S. has controlled the outbreak as much as it could have; 88% of Democrats disagree

https://www.journalism.org/2020/10/07/before-trump-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-republicans-attention-to-pandemic-had-sharply-declined/

October 7, 2020

Republicans who rely a lot on Fox News and/or talk radio overwhelmingly say U.S. could not have controlled the coronavirus outbreak any better

 

 

 

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