Meet our New Leader

[Joseph McBride]

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-inside-militarys-top-secret-plans-if-coronavirus-cripples-government-1492878?fbclid=IwAR21wyuj02Nwny_xlkxTW88-5gsfQNuET5YFQcHimFuuJI0fdHbwsrl8IQA

 

Those who did not know about or believe in the existence

of COG, or know it was implemented on 9/11 and extended

by each administration annually, might have second thoughts on reading this,

even though the article understates the severity of the problem,

since it does not indicate that COG has been in effect since

9/11 or that we underwent a military takeover on Nov. 22, 1963,

or that this is the inevitable result of that coup. This article mentions

recent steps to prepare for full-on martial law and suggests

that there are changes in the line of succession -- which Peter

Dale Scott alerted us to years ago (I have read some recent

articles by gullible media people citing  Democrats who think Pelosi might become president). Some

facts are too sensitive to be shared with the public by the MSM, evidently,

although polls have consistently shown that 70% of Americans

have not believed the official fantasy of the Warren Reort.

FROM THE ARTICLE: "We're in new territory," says one senior officer, the entire post-9/11 paradigm of emergency planning thrown out the window. The officer jokes, in the kind of morbid humor characteristic of this slow-moving disaster, that America had better learn who Gen. Terrence J. O'Shaughnessy is [your new leader pictured below].

He is the "combatant commander" for the United States and would in theory be in charge if Washington were eviscerated. That is, until a new civilian leader could be installed. . . . All of these plans are the responsibility of U.S. Northern Command (or NORTHCOM), the homeland defense military authority created after 9/11. Air Force General O'Shaughnessy is NORTHCOM's Colorado Springs-based commander.

On February 1, Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper signed orders directing NORTHCOM to execute nationwide pandemic plans. Secretly, he signed Warning Orders (the WARNORD as it's called) alerting NORTHCOM and a host of east coast units to "prepare to deploy" in support of potential extraordinary missions.

Seven secret plans – some highly compartmented – exist to prepare for these extraordinary missions. . . .

 

upon reading this. 

Edited March 22, 2020 by Joseph McBride

[Ron Bulman]

I've not read the whole article yet.  But I thought the Continuity of Government plan went back through Cheney and others to at least the 80's.  I'll admit I've already thought of it coming into play as a result of the virus.  E.G. Martial Law to keep us off the streets rioting, looking for/fighting over food if this goes on for months.  

[David Andrews]

What do you suppose is going on in Iran right now, with all their liabilities, inefficiencies, dangers and fundamentalist tendencies?  Do you suppose they're going all batsh*t apocalypto like we are?  Are they on lockdown, with so few people affordable to lose, and so many enemies?  Why, then, are we?

If we're in a wartime situation, we ought to plan a version of what we did in WW II and put the food industry, agribusiness and production of essential domestic supplies into maximum production.  It would create jobs to replace those lost, for one thing.  Too much like Socialism?

Edited March 22, 2020 by David Andrews

[Ron Bulman]

I have read food packing plants, Amazon and WalMart (150k) are hiring fwiw.

[David Andrews]

3 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said:

I have read food packing plants, Amazon and WalMart (150k) are hiring fwiw.

Let's make work for all, not just the military and law enforcement.  To do otherwise is to invite the situations anticipated, rather than create situations that will restore this country.

[Joe Bauer]

I just heard on KCBS radio out of San Francisco that our auto industry will have a massive drop in sales and production.

However, GM alone has 3.5 billion in cash immediately available and could garner another 12 to 15 billion if things go completely South.

If martial law is declared I could see the government even shutting down all banks to prevent runs on them.

I think the biggest fear outside of outright dying a torturous lung destroying suffocating death ( for my age group anyway ) is what this thread is discussing regards our nation becoming a military rule state.

Edited March 22, 2020 by Joe Bauer

[Joseph McBride]

We've been under military rule since 1963 as what's known

as a limited police state. We may soon be a full police state.

[Joe Bauer]

25 minutes ago, Joseph McBride said:

We've been under military rule since 1963 as what's known

as a limited police state. We may soon be a full police state.

Yes. 

How many different police agencies do we have right now?

Employing millions.

[David Andrews]

One of the things that may happen, Mr. McBride, Mr. DiEugenio, is that the community experience of moviegoing may be destroyed.  Such as it is, such as it ever was, such as it was for Mr. Oswald.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/22/as-cinemas-go-dark-the-film-industry-may-go-straight-to-netflix

Mother will no more buy us popcorn, and leave us to meet a man, counting on a ninety-minute runtime, checked with the box office girl.  There will be no stranger's hand to grasp in the darkness, as Edwin Walker availed himself of.  No more will knees be barked at the Egyptian, at any admission price (once, a dime)..

Ellen DeGeneres is already working to produce her talk show from her own home, and to continue doing so ever after the CoronaBan is lifted.  Without an audience.

Will we go to theaters again, as they did after Cromwell, as they did again after the Great Plague of 1666?

 

Edited March 22, 2020 by David Andrews

[James DiEugenio]

That is a heck of a good question.

I mean, the move gross last week was a pittance of what it should have been normally.

It will be even worse for this week when the results come out tomorrow.

[Steve Thomas]

I would think that Continuity of Government plans have been around since the British burned Washington in the War of 1812.

Steve Thomas

[Ron Ecker]

11 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

E.G. Martial Law to keep us off the streets rioting, looking for/fighting over food if this goes on for months.  

Nice pun on E.G. Marshall (The Defenders, and an officer of the American Judicature Society).

 

 

[Andrew Prutsok]

11 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

I've not read the whole article yet.  But I thought the Continuity of Government plan went back through Cheney and others to at least the 80's.  I'll admit I've already thought of it coming into play as a result of the virus.  E.G. Martial Law to keep us off the streets rioting, looking for/fighting over food if this goes on for months.  

Are you saying this will be our new leader?

 

 

[Joe Bauer]

The personal and entire society changes are so massive and happening so fast, it's hard to process them as reality.

Like we have nothing in our life experience and mental data banks to compare them to and analyze it all and confidently figure out how to react.

We are talking an "overnight" paradigm shift regarding countless societal and cultural traditions as well as economic, governing, policing and civil rights changes.

Culturally like movie theater going, restaurant going, professional and amateur sports going, music concert attending, convention and holiday event attending, shopping, etc, etc.

Then there's travel both domestic and foreign, tourism changes, the hotel/motel industry changing everywhere.

Government structure, powers and policy changes, constitutional rights changes, police and law enforcement changes.

Drastic foreign policy and immigration changes. 

Economic, job and career shifts. Family dynamic and priority shifts. 

Fear of even going outside and of getting even the basic survival needs and items.

Schooling our children. What to do with them when they are ordered to stay home 24/7? Even restricting their activities outside the home?

It's like an enormous unexpected tsunami or other natural disaster has hit us and we are just trying to figure things out in the immediate moment.

It's going to take incredibly mature, intelligent, and reasoned leadership to lead us through this entire life effecting and changing event. 

Especially if it gets so bad law and order breaks down.

Just the one major city confined hurricane Katrina disaster in New Orleans 15 years ago saw older convalescent patients left to die, police abandoning their duties, armed vigilante citizen groups confronting fleeing residents and turning them away from certain areas, etc.

Our local governments from city to county to state as well all of our private citizen and religious organizations from every social economic, age and agenda area are going to have to step up and work together like they never have before and pull out all the stops in helping us all get through this in a sane and responsibly organized yet tolerant and hopeful way.

We are ALL in this together.

All economic class, ethnic, religious and gender lines will have to be suspended.

Edited March 22, 2020 by Joe Bauer

[Anthony Thorne]

COG and the attendant crisis planning that has gone with it since for many years has been covered by a lot of the sources Ron and others are surely familiar with - it’s one of the more interesting subjects Peter Dale Scott has covered for the past 13 years or more.

But there was a less discussed focal point of some of the planning in the 70’s. Various US defense scientists (some linked to the JASON group, and some to the Defense Science Board) took part in a mid-70’s study on the nuclear industry and various related topics, ranging from nuclear energy to nuclear war. The group was called the Nuclear Energy Policy Study Group, and the study was brought out in book form (NUCLEAR POWER - ISSUES AND CHOICES). Some of the names from the study group later went on to hang out with Committee on the Present Danger figures at Harvard, notably at the Belfer Center, the same place that friendly spook Rolf-Mowatt Larssen came from when he popped up to give a JFK talk at conferences last November. And the Belfer Center is a weird place at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government where many neocon and Bush admin and COG folk linked to the War on Terror - Zelikow, later SecDef Ashton Carter and others - pop up again and again, either on the faculty or as part of study groups there. One woman from the Center, Michele Flournoy, later became a key advisor to the Joint Chiefs and was given a JCS award in 2000. Joseph Nye and Albert Carnevale were members of the mid-70’s study and later were heavily involved at Harvard and the Belfer Center, with Carnevale running the faculty at one point in the early 99’s. Nye and Carnesale wrote a series of books in the early 80’s on nuclear defense issues with Graham Allison, Dean of the Kennedy School and another Belfer Center regular.

Back to the main point. That mid 70’s study had a chapter  - 'Nuclear Proliferation and Terrorism' - on what the industry and government should do if a nuclear facility was targeted by a terrorist group. The study members - which included Carnesale, Nye, and several other interesting names - recommended mass detentions and sweeping restrictions on civil liberties, just in case things got out of hand after the nuclear facility had been targeted, and there’s a key chapter in the book that goes into this. If I wasn’t writing on a phone I’d cut and paste several more names and links, as there was at least one Nixon admin guy who was in charge of ‘narcotics intelligence’ (or similar) for Nixon who was also part of the group. But anyway, that mid 70’s study led to several connected figures who were part of it really pushing the War on Terror, hanging out with COG figures like Cheney and Rumsfeld and James Woolsey, and generally being part of a tight-knit group that all seemed to be swimming in a similar direction, moving through the 90’s with a growing emphasis on terrorism prevention planning, then past 9/11 to the implementation of COG and numerous rich weapons contracts, along with a push to rebuild America’s defences and hopefully throw a few extra dollars to Lockheed Martin with another billion dollar weapons spending spree or two.

So a riddle for the forum members here. There’s one Kennedy administration figure who pops up in all of this, and he plays an interesting role.

He provided the seed money for the Belfer Center in the early 70’s, giving all those militant spooks and COG planners a place to gather. He then co-funded (along with MITRE) the nuclear study in the mid 1970’s that suggested civil liberties be restricted and mass detentions be enacted in case of a terror attack, and he wrote the introduction for the book of that study when it was eventually published.

He then took part in discussion groups at the Kennedy School of Government through the 80’s that were attended in the main by the same group of guys that later pushed the War on Terror - Huntington, Nye, Allison, Woolsey and others. Woolsey was part of the COG planning groups through the same period.

And he took part in an early 90’s study group with former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs William Crowe - along with JASON member Sidney Drell - that used Belfer Center staff for two years. Crowe, in mid 80’s correspondence with Barry Goldwater, was vehement that the USA needed to rebuild its defence industry and reinvest in new weapons spending.

The Kennedy administration figure who did this was McGeorge Bundy. And so I find it fascinating that Bundy, who hung out with COG planners for years, and who funded the group that discussed restrictions on civil liberties following a terror attack, pops up in the following story, discussing with Lemnizter a plan to use Soviet planes to carry out false flag attacks against US installations to provoke a US military response.

JFK Files: US Planned to Buy Soviet Planes to Carry Out False Flag Attacks

https://diplomacybeyond.com/articles/jfk-files-us-planned-buy-soviet-planes-carry-false-flag-attacks/

Quote

“There is a possibility that such aircraft could be used in a deception operation designed to confuse enemy planes in the air, to launch a surprise attack against enemy installations or in a provocation operation in which Soviet aircraft would appear to attack the US or friendly installations in order to provide an excuse for US intervention,”

 

Edited March 22, 2020 by Anthony Thorne