Pamela Brown Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 On 5/9/2020 at 12:27 PM, W. Niederhut said: Good review of the flawed M$M response to Murder Most Foul at Russ Baker's Who What Why website today. Nothing new for those of us who have read the DiEugenio review at Kennedys and King, but it is good to see another honest, accurate critique. My only criticism of the piece is that they should have included a reference to the DiEugenio review of Murder Most Foul. The article includes several links to archival Who What Why articles about the JFK assassination. What Everybody Is Missing About Bob Dylan’s JFK Song https://whowhatwhy.org/2020/05/09/what-everybody-is-missing-about-bob-dylans-jfk-song/ With all due respect, it seems to me that what everyone misses about Dylan is that he gives the impression of revealing when he is in fact concealing. So you have to know what to look for. In the case of MMF, coming so late in the game, and parroting things we as CTs have been saying for over 50 years, we need to ask what is really going on? Is something much larger than what his statements represent being concealed? Just my 2 cents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 On 5/9/2020 at 10:01 PM, W. Niederhut said: As I recall, Rolling Stone magazine has rated Like a Rolling Stone the greatest rock song in history, and not without reason, IMO. Well, it's not surprising that Rolling Stone would pick a song about a Rolling Stone as the greatest rock song in history. IMO that song can't compare as rock and roll to "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Ron Ecker said: Well, it's not surprising that Rolling Stone would pick a song about a Rolling Stone as the greatest rock song in history. IMO that song can't compare as rock and roll to "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction." My vote goes to Jimi Hendrix's recording of All Along the Watchtower. So many imitations during the past 50 years, but no one had ever played a guitar like that before. Edited May 11, 2020 by W. Niederhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Mellor Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 32 minutes ago, Pamela Brown said: What Everybody Is Missing About Bob Dylan’s JFK Song You don’t know me darlin’You never would guessI’m nothing like my ghostly appearance would suggestI ain’t no false prophetI just said what I saidI’m just here to bring vengeance on somebody’s head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Brown Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Pete Mellor said: You don’t know me darlin’You never would guessI’m nothing like my ghostly appearance would suggestI ain’t no false prophetI just said what I saidI’m just here to bring vengeance on somebody’s head. Good example. Dylan is a false prophet. Most of his fans will buy the fairy dust... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Brown Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 9 hours ago, Ron Ecker said: Well, it's not surprising that Rolling Stone would pick a song about a Rolling Stone as the greatest rock song in history. IMO that song can't compare as rock and roll to "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction." I read somewhere that there may have been some sort of mind-control program based on the term 'rolling stone'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, Pamela Brown said: I read somewhere that there may have been some sort of mind-control program based on the term 'rolling stone'... The modern rock 'n roll use of the term originated with Muddy Waters' song Rollin' Stone (Catfish Blues.) The Rolling Stones borrowed the name from Muddy Waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, W. Niederhut said: My vote goes to Jimi Hendrix's recording of All Along the Watchtower. So many imitations during the past 50 years, but no one had ever played a guitar like that before. All Along The Watchtower and Like A Rolling Stone are great covers. Can’t beat ‘em. These are three of my other faves... Edited May 12, 2020 by Cliff Varnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 29 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said: The modern rock 'n roll use of the term originated with Muddy Waters' song Rollin' Stone (Catfish Blues.) The Rolling Stones borrowed the name from Muddy Waters. Well mah motha toll mah fatha. Just befoe I was born. Got a boy chile commin. Gonna be, he gonna be a Rolling Stone. Inspired the Rolling Stones to take the name as there own. Dylan to write a new, different version of it in 1965? And Hendrix to appropriate that version, with Dylan's blessing? https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=muddy+waters+rollin'+stone&docid=608042101796375043&mid=DF01636CBEC9D1AA118EDF01636CBEC9D1AA118E&view=detail&FORM=VRAASM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 I thought the term came from "A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss" by early rocker Publilius Syrus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 32 minutes ago, Ron Ecker said: I thought the term came from "A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss" by early rocker Publilius Syrus. "A person must stay active to avoid stagnation." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 4 hours ago, W. Niederhut said: The modern rock 'n roll use of the term originated with Muddy Waters' song Rollin' Stone (Catfish Blues.) The Rolling Stones borrowed the name from Muddy Waters. Johnny Winter brought him back to perform with this. I bought it 4-5 years ago but never really listened to it until tonight. https://www.amazon.com/Hard-Again-Muddy-Waters/dp/B00022GJ4M/ref=sr_1_1?crid=9CIK52I80WRB&dchild=1&keywords=muddy+waters+hard+again&qid=1589262491&s=music&sprefix=muddy+wa%2Caps%2C251&sr=1-1 Led me to find this terrible video, but if you bear with it, classic performance. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=muddy+waters+johnny+winter&&view=detail&mid=6DD1BF1B891CC8DFF0DD6DD1BF1B891CC8DFF0DD&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dmuddy%2Bwaters%2Bjohnny%2Bwinter%26FORM%3DVDRESM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) Wonder if Dylan's new JFK song would have generated even more interest if this pandemic hadn't come forth? Edited May 12, 2020 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Brown Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Dylan's US tour is canceled...https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/bob-dylan-cancels-2020-us-tour-due-to-coronavirus/ar-BB13ZzOi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Brown Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 On 5/11/2020 at 10:48 AM, Ron Ecker said: Well, it's not surprising that Rolling Stone would pick a song about a Rolling Stone as the greatest rock song in history. IMO that song can't compare as rock and roll to "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction." I have fond memories of dancing to I Can't Get No Satisfaction with my family at Westhampton Beach when it came out. Just incredible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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