The inevitable end result of our last 56 years

[Andrew Prutsok]

3 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said:

Nightmare’: US allies fear America is lost — even if Trump goes down in defeat

 

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/nightmare-us-allies-fear-america-is-lost-even-if-trump-goes-down-in-defeat/

Chris Hedges, one our generation's great thinkers, says the same thing. The collapsing empire is too far gone to be salvaged. It's easy to imagine the acceleration of it whichever one wins. When Biden wins, the nutcases will start marching again like they did against Obama, except this time they'll be armed and violent. If Trump wins, he'll just keep doing what he's doing. Either way were sunk and it's no more than we deserve.

And regardless of which one wins, the president will continue to sell us out to the corporations. Trump is doing it; Biden will do it. I'm depressed. There is nothing in either of their histories to suggest anything else.

Edited October 22, 2020 by Andrew Prutsok

[Douglas Caddy]

Gallup Poll: 56% of U.S. Voters Say Trump Does Not Deserve Reelection

 

https://news.gallup.com/poll/322340/voters-say-trump-not-deserve-reelection.aspx

[Joe Bauer]

1 hour ago, Andrew Prutsok said:

Chris Hedges, one our generation's great thinkers, says the same thing. The collapsing empire is too far gone to be salvaged. It's easy to imagine the acceleration of it whichever one wins. When Biden wins, the nutcases will start marching again like they did against Obama, except this time they'll be armed and violent. If Trump wins, he'll just keep doing what he's doing. Either way were sunk and it's no more than we deserve.

And regardless of which one wins, the president will continue to sell us out to the corporations. Trump is doing it; Biden will do it. I'm depressed. There is nothing in either of their histories to suggest anything else.

Look at the world and know that we have all entered a new paradigm of fragile survival reality on an entire global scale.

Stanford entomologist Paul Erlich and his wife Anne presented a warning prediction model for this world stress and crisis in their 1968 book "Population Bomb."

One that is playing out on the stress side much more so than not.

9 billion people now occupy this planet ( versus 3.5 billion in 1968 ) and they and their governments are all competing for the same natural resources that have not increased 3X like the population.

That simple equation alone speaks for itself. 

With global warming restricting food and water and agriculture availabilities to billions of people along with natural disasters and even pandemics stressing entire nations and societies like never before, no matter who is president of the Untied States in the future, they are going to have to react like every other nation and their governments in this basic survival resource needing free for all.

You remember the gas shortage under Carter? ( one artificially created to help defeat Carter imo ) and how people all over the country were beginning to act out violently with loss of law and order control in many areas? Truckers were forming miles long traffic stoppage demonstrations. People were fighting each other in gas station wait lines?

With billions of people world wide feeling life and death stresses what do you think is going to happen with civil unrest?

And governments, especially in the hardest hit 3rd world countries will turn to fascist police state ones, hammering down on their protesting citizenry with the justification excuse that they have no other choice to stop the rioting chaos.

World human rights will be tossed aside.

One mass natural disaster event ( perhaps a 5 or 10 year long rain drought ) on an area as large as India and Pakistan, or something similar in the Far East or even Africa would effect billions. Mass fires, flooding, earthquakes too.

Look at the massive fires on our own West Coast this year?

We are rich and developed enough to absorb such calamities, but most of the Earth's population resides in nation states that can't absorb such stresses.

All of Earth's nations and people have now entered a new and very fragile state of survival existence. Any President and all other nation state leaders and their policies domestic and foreign will have to be changed to adjust to this global free-for-all need and stress reality.

The 2020's are going to be rough, rough, rough for all of us here and around the world imo.

And technology can help some of us adjust and survive without desperate civil unrest but not all.

If Biden wins this election, it's still going to rough going and probably as long as he is in office.

We are never going back to pre 2020 normal again. We will have a new normal.

Hopefully, we and other nations can still keep our democratic/constitutional basic human rights framed governments intact through this new paradigm of global stress reality.

 

 

 

Edited October 22, 2020 by Joe Bauer

[Douglas Caddy]

Scientists Are Increasingly Bracing For The Possibility That COVID-19 May Never Go Away

 

https://gothamist.com/news/scientists-are-increasingly-bracing-possibility-covid-19-may-never-go-away?fbclid=IwAR0boqCAen8H_PO1FilpmqaH-xkN7pcBG3leypFDL6yPivUbZ0rmq6D-Ciw

[Andrew Prutsok]

27 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:

Look at the world and know that we have all entered a new paradigm of fragile survival reality on an entire global scale.

Stanford entomologist Paul Erlich and his wife Anne presented a warning prediction model for this world stress and crisis in their 1968 book "Population Bomb."

One that is playing out on the stress side much more so than not.

9 billion people now occupy this planet ( versus 3.5 billion in 1968 ) and they and their governments are all competing for the same natural resources that have not increased 3X like the population.

That simple equation alone speaks for itself. 

With global warming restricting food and water and agriculture availabilities to billions of people along with natural disasters and even pandemics stressing entire nations and societies like never before, no matter who is president of the Untied States in the future, they are going to have to react like every other nation and their governments in this basic survival resource needing free for all.

You remember the gas shortage under Carter? ( one artificially created to help defeat Carter imo ) and how people all over the country were beginning to act out violently with loss of law and order control in many areas? Truckers were forming miles long traffic stoppage demonstrations. People were fighting each other in gas station wait lines?

With billions of people world wide feeling life and death stresses what do you think is going to happen with civil unrest?

And governments, especially in the hardest hit 3rd world countries will turn to fascist police state ones, hammering down on their protesting citizenry with the justification excuse that they have no other choice to stop the rioting chaos.

World human rights will be tossed aside.

One mass natural disaster event ( perhaps a 5 or 10 year long rain drought ) on an area of covering India and Pakistan, or something similar in the Far East or even Africa would effect billions. Mass fires, flooding, earthquakes too.

Look at the massive fires on our own West Coast this year?

We are rich and developed enough to absorb such calamities, but most of the Earth's population resides in nation states that can't absorb such stresses.

All of Earth's nations and people have now entered a very fragile state of survival existence. Any President and all other national state leaders and their policies domestic and foreign will have to be changed to adjust to this global free-for-all stress reality.

The 2020's are going to be rough, rough, rough for all of us here and around the world imo.

And technology can help some of us adjust and survive without desperate civil unrest but not all.

If Biden wins this election, it's still going to rough going and probably as long as he is in office.

We are never going back to pre 2020 normal again. We will have a new normal.

Hopefully, we and other nations can still keep our democratic/constitutional basic human rights framed governments intact through this new paradigm of global stress reality.

 

 

 

That doesn't make me feel better, Joe.

[Douglas Caddy]

What Does Amy Coney Barrett Mean for the Supreme Court?

We know who her allies are, and we know how to read what she’s written or signed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/22/opinion/supreme-court-amy-coney-barrett.html

 

[James DiEugenio]

2 hours ago, Andrew Prutsok said:

I particularly like the way they tried to manufacture a Hillary win by not releasing the Steele Dossier until nearly three months after the election. It was brilliant.

Andrew, the following story is from CNN, clearly a cable compnany, and its from October of 2016: https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/07/politics/us-blames-russia-for-targeting-election-systems/

So the excerpt you used from CV is wrong. Your comment above is incredible.  That utterly unreliable and bought and paid for pile of rubbish--going by the name of Steele Dossier-- should have never been published by anyone in any venue.  It was clearly an oppo assignment.  Since when does that merit being published?   But further, for Buzzfeed to have published it without any attempt at fact checking it was even worse. It was a  serious blow to whatever credibility that online journalism had, which was not much.

[Andrew Prutsok]

19 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said:

Andrew, the following story is from CNN, clearly a cable compnany, and its from October of 2016: https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/07/politics/us-blames-russia-for-targeting-election-systems/

So the excerpt you used from CV is wrong. Your comment above is incredible.  That utterly unreliable and bought and paid for pile of rubbish--going by the name of Steele Dossier-- should have never been published by anyone in any venue.  It was clearly an oppo assignment.  Since when does that merit being published?   But further, for Buzzfeed to have published it without any attempt at fact checking it was even worse. It was a  serious blow to whatever credibility that online journalism had, which was not much.

Don't believe I said the dossier warranted being published. In fact, I'm quite sure I did not.  And the article you link is about Russians stealing emails, not the dossier, which is what I referred to. Apparently you think Seth Rich took the emails.

Again, I'll pose the same question, which your smart ass reply failed to address: if the dossier was a hit job by the Deep State to stop Trump from being elected, why was it not made public -- whether warranted or not -- until well after the election? You'd think if they were against Trump they would have tried to get that published somewhere before the election instead of what they actually did, which was to come out 11 days before the election and state they had found new emails from the Democratic nominee and were restarting the investigation.

 

[Joe Bauer]

For what it's worth;

Trump's 10 year employed "fixer" personal attorney Michal Cohen states in his Trump expose book "Disloyal - A Memoir" that he and Trump and Russian oligarch Aras Agalarov and his son Emin visited a Las Vegas strip club and watched a simulated female "golden showers" performance that Trump seemed to enjoy.

Agalarov denies Cohen's story.

However, Trump socializing with one of Russia's most prominent oligarchs with close ties to Putin ( one on one ) is a fact and who wouldn't view this relationship with some curious apprehension?

Alagarov paid Trump $20 million dollars to host the Ms. Universe pageant in Las Vegas. Another fact.

With Trump's known attraction to beautiful women and even bragging about his sexual fantasies with them like "grab them by the pu$$y" the idea of him watching a "golden showers" act doesn't seem too far fetched imo.

And why doesn't Trump sue Michael Cohen for making this slanderous claim in a huge best seller book?

Edited October 22, 2020 by Joe Bauer

[Cliff Varnell]

13 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

Andrew, the following story is from CNN, clearly a cable compnany, and its from October of 2016: https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/07/politics/us-blames-russia-for-targeting-election-systems/

Yes, the cable news shows reported the Obama Administration‘s denunciation of Russian interference on October 7, 2016 at 3:30 pm EST— then the Access Hollywood tape dropped, soon followed by the Podesta e-mails.  

Those latter two stories occupied the news cycle for days on end. The stories in the news cycle are repeated over and over.  Obama’s accusation against the Russians was reported but not repeated.

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So the excerpt you used from CV is wrong.

DiEugenio is allergic to quoting me directly. 

I wrote:

An even bigger “coincidence” that day —the Obama Administration formally accused the Russian gov’t of interfering in the 2016 election.

That bit didn’t make the cable news cycle.

Does DiEugenio know what a “news cycle” is?

The Access Hollywood tape occupied the cable news cycle until October 28 when the Comey letter hit and the Hillary e-mail non-scandal took over until Election Day.

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Your comment above is incredible.  That utterly unreliable and bought and paid for pile of rubbish--going by the name of Steele Dossier-- should have never been published by anyone in any venue.  It was clearly an oppo assignment.  Since when does that merit being published?   But further, for Buzzfeed to have published it without any attempt at fact checking it was even worse. It was a  serious blow to whatever credibility that online journalism had, which was not much.

It’s hilarious to see a Russia-gate Denier critique anyone’s credibility.

Why would Crowdstrike conspire with the FBI/CIA to make up a phony Russia-hacked-the-DNC story only to bury it prior to the election?

If the goal was to prevent Trump from winning why wasn’t the Steele Dossier widely reported prior to the election?

Instead we had Hillary’s e-mails shoved down our throats for 11 straight days.

 

Correction: the Russian-interference story broke at 3:30 pm EST not 2:30.

Edited October 23, 2020 by Cliff Varnell

[Andrew Prutsok]

Oh.

 

 

Edited October 22, 2020 by Andrew Prutsok

[Andrew Prutsok]

It's comforting to know the story notes Russia's ability to change vote tallies is "limited."

[W. Niederhut]

2 hours ago, Andrew Prutsok said:

Oh.

 

 

     So, it looks like Ratcliffe's ratty presser last night may have been primarily a smoke screen-- a public relations stunt to deflect attention from the story of Russian election interference to help Trump and the GOP.

Edited October 22, 2020 by W. Niederhut

[Andrew Prutsok]

2 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said:

The Russians did not take any emails.

No one has tried to argue that they did for almost two years.

The forensic evidence, most notably collected and analyzed by Bill Binney, indicates the emails were download to a external drive (a thumb drive.) Crowdstrike can not provide proof of an external hack and have never said it was a hack under oath.

Seymour Hersch believes Seth Rich was murdered on John Brennan's orders.

The two main suspects are MS-13 gang members Rafael Aguilar and Carmelo Marmolejo-Calixto.

They were found shot to death in Myrtle Beach the day after Seth was killed.

There is small industry dedicated to investigating the murder of Seth Rich that goes into a lot more detail.

If you ever feel like getting out of your comfort zone, you should look it up (don't use Google.).

Interest has recently picked up with the Brennan notes showing that Obama was notified of the Hillary Plan to concoct the Russian Collusion plan about a week after Seth Rich's murder.

In case you are not getting it, Brennan told Obama what Hillary was doing, after she already started doing it.

 

 

Sorry, but it all sounds concocted. On Sunday, July 10, 2016, Clinton was outpolling Trump 52 to 36. So she's going to risk everything by having some nobody murdered? And what good does murdering him do if the data is already out there? I don't buy it, and the fact that senile, old Sy Hersh believes it and a couple of gang members got killed aren't going to influence me. It's crazytown.

Edited October 22, 2020 by Andrew Prutsok

[Ron Bulman]

Surprised the prez didn't attack more.   Joe had a few moments but not real inspiring, though a good finish.