Andrej Stancak Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 As someone living across the Ocean, I watched the US elections with great interest as I believed, together will millions across the world, that Biden's win would pave way to a human-oriented politics capable of solving many burning problems of today. Joe Biden is a good and wise man, very much needed during these difficult times. However, I wonder what can Biden's win mean to our cause - the JFK assassination. Will he agree to open the remaining, perhaps the most sensitive documents pertaining to Lee Oswald? And what about Kamala Harris? Is she not the woman who basically opposed recent Sirhan Sirhan's appeals for a pardon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ty Carpenter said: So I hope all of this fraud stuff is true and Trump is re-elected. But, in the last 4 years we have seen quite a few promises/theories that have not came to fruition. What level of confidence do you have that there was massive fraud and Trump will get the second term/these efforts will be successful? Ty, it's nice to see a Trump supporter whose employed critical thinking over the last few years and realizes that nothing is true simply because Donald Trump say it is. In fairness to Dennis, I can do a fair job of keeping numbers in my head, and i did, over a 3 day period once see a vote total where Biden advanced by I think over 1000 votes and Trump advanced zero. Obviously this needs an explanation. But I put in the same category with a number of JFKA "too good to be true" incidents. Are we really too assume that the people who would perpetuate this to be so careless to do something that they couldn't later explain. I don't think so. Then of course, it would be Wheeler who bring forth unverifiable bs evidence that extends it and say, not only did Biden's vote totals expand but they in fact were subtracted from Trump? At no time, did I ever see a subtraction of totals. On the other hand, There are a number of things that can make this seem more of a steal to Trump supporters than it was. The first was the fact that some red states didn't allow the pre counting of mail in ballots until Election day. At that point, most states started counting ballots cast on election day, which were mostly Trump voters hence the "red mirage". This was all spelled out ahead of time in this Oct. 31st article below, you can look to the individual states and it's largely accurate. This election appears falsely closer than it is, as Biden will win by over 5 million votes when it's all over projecting the remaining states. It could have been called on Pennsylvania on Thursday night. Biden's scoring in the 70's or greater in all of these remaining Pennsylvania districts because, 1) the votes left to be counted were largely from Philadelphia and other populated blue strongholds. And 2) were overwhelmingly mail in ballots. Trump all but prohibited mail in ballots to his followers , except in a few states. The networks have historically made projections with far less evidence than this, and all of us just took it to the bank. My guess is that MSM chose not to call the races sooner because they didn't want to inflame calls of "media bias" and have Trump cry bloody victim and polarize the situation further. JMO. But keep in mind, Fox News was the first to call Arizona for Biden and the MSM didn't do that for days! https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-results-timing/# ******** Andrew the Pfizer vaccine is a big deal, but the average person may not get it for 6 months. Edited November 9, 2020 by Kirk Gallaway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, Andrej Stancak said: I wonder what can Biden's win mean to our cause - the JFK assassination. Will he agree to open the remaining, perhaps the most sensitive documents pertaining to Lee Oswald? And what about Kamala Harris? Is she not the woman who basically opposed recent Sirhan Sirhan's appeals for a pardon? Conspiracy theories have gotten such a bad name in the constant Trump blizzard of disinformation that I don't think Biden and Harris would touch the JFK case with a 10-foot pole. I would like to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Carpenter Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said: Ty, it's nice to see a Trump supporter whose employed critical thinking over the last few years and realizes that nothing is true simply because Donald Trump say it is. In fairness to Dennis, I can do a fair job of keeping numbers in my head, and i did, over a 3 day period once see a vote total where Biden advanced by I think over 1000 votes and Trump advanced zero. Obviously this needs an explanation. But I put in the same category with a number of JFKA "too good to be true" incidents. Are we really too assume that the people who would perpetuate this to be so careless to do something that they couldn't later explain. I don't think so. Then of course, it would be Wheeler who bring forth unverifiable bs evidence that extends it and say, not only did Biden's vote totals expand but they in fact were subtracted from Trump? At no time, did I ever see a subtraction of totals. On the other hand, There are a number of things that can make this seem more of a steal to Trump supporters than it was. The first was the fact that some red states didn't allow the pre counting of mail in ballots until Election day. At that point, most states started counting ballots cast on election day, which were mostly Trump voters hence the "red mirage". This was all spelled out ahead of time in this Oct. 31st article below, you can look to the individual states and it's largely accurate. This election appears falsely closer than it is, as Biden will win by over 5 million votes when it's all over projecting the remaining states. It could have been called on Pennsylvania on Thursday night. Biden's scoring in the 70's or greater in all of these remaining Pennsylvania districts because, 1) the votes left to be counted were largely from Philadelphia and other populated blue strongholds. And 2) were overwhelmingly mail in ballots. Trump all but prohibited mail in ballots to his followers , except in a few states. The networks have historically made projections with far less evidence than this, and all of us just took it to the bank. My guess is that MSM chose not to call the races sooner because they didn't want to inflame calls of "media bias" and have Trump cry bloody victim and polarize the situation further. JMO. But keep in mind, Fox News was the first to call Arizona for Biden and the MSM didn't do that for days! https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-results-timing/# ******** Andrew the Pfizer vaccine is a big deal, but the average person may not get it for 6 months. Thanks for the analysis Kirk. I have a feeling this whole thing is just us Trump guys not wanting to let go. I have made peace with whatever comes and frankly am glad I can move on. Politics and the election was eating my brain. I am ready to focus on other things. I don't know where my politics go from here. I have always been a strong conservative but the GOP does nothing for me. The entire government is in cahoots one way or another and they seem to thrive off of gridlock. The only answer is term limits. There is no reason any politician on any level should serve more than 8 years. With all of that being said, I will probably be much withdrawn from politics the next couple of years and will try to focus on things I can actually influence. But the minute things go south or they try a gun grab, I will be there ready to fight for my constitutional rights and values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Carpenter Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I also want to add that I think we could be extremely effective if we could join together with the Bernie Bro's. Don't get me wrong, I despise socialism and their economic policies but I have a feeling both sides want to see the entire current governmental structure burnt to the ground. I think we could make some decent headway towards that goal. We could figure out our disagreements after we get this thing back on the right course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I agree Ty, with term limits we could have a whole new group in there, and let the best (whatever that means) rise to the top. I 'd probably find some way to get the money out of politics. Maybe federal funding. Give each candidate a pittance, and see how well they spend it! Like we even need really a quarter of all the campaign ads on TV that we see every election campaign! It's interesting you bring up Bernie, whatever you think of his politics, he is the real deal and sincerely has the good of the country at heart. If you're concerned about the Social Democratic thing, there's always 2 other houses of Congress that will be weighing in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said: Explanations welcome. Link to full video A simple data input error corrected? The same kind of error could have been shown and corrected on FoxNews and other media covering the vote count several times during the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Chris Davidson said: You forgot about the super majority of African-American women who rejected your theory. Really shocking statistics. What is the source for these numbers? Is this for the Biden/Trump presidential election and the entire nation? And if so, it is obviously not finished as there are still about 3% of votes that have not been counted. Still, I am shocked at the Trump favoring white women's vote. Many so-called credible pre-election polls showed a 20+ anti-trump margin among women voters nationwide. Although I never saw a breakdown of this women's vote by race. Again, if these numbers are accurate, I guess the total anti-Trump women's vote numbers are only higher because of women of color voting anti-Trump. If it was just our white women voting Trump would have won! I thought most white women were repulsed by crude, sex predator, anti-abortion Trump. I still can't believe that white women voted for Trump over Biden...55% to 43%. It actually makes me sick ( even ashamed ) to think our American white women voted for Trump by such a wide margin. Update: I've been double and triple checking white women vote numbers for this election and it appears that the chart numbers above are correct. What do we have here? A nation of racist Trump brainwashed Rosanne Barr's? Guess race hatred is the biggest issue with America's white women to the point of ignoring Trump's "grab em by the pu$$y", sex predator ( even rape?) , misogynistic women insulting, wife cheating filandering, anti-women's right to choose, and throw in pathological lying and corrupt money dealing issues of Trump. Seriously, reading this white women Trump favoring vote just sickens me and has shocked my sense of reality. I can't believe the majority of our white women are like this. Like Roseanne Barr. How do these white moms explain their support of a sexual predator to their daughters? Edited November 9, 2020 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 And so it begins. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1325859406349799424 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump "I am pleased to announce that Christopher C. Miller, the highly respected Director of the National Counterterrorism Center (unanimously confirmed by the Senate), will be Acting Secretary of Defense, effective immediately.. 11:54 AM · Nov 9, 2020·Twitter for iPhone Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Replying to @realDonaldTrump ...Chris will do a GREAT job! Mark Esper has been terminated. I would like to thank him for his service." Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Could Trump go to Jail for Payoff to Porn Star Stormy Daniels? https://www.juancole.com/2020/11/payoff-stormy-daniels.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Prutsok Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 All Trump cries of rigged elections are the same charges he made against Democrats in 2016 and even Ted Cruz after the 2016 Iowa primary. He appointed a commission of deranged, vote suppressing wingnuts to investigate and they found nothing. These are the types of people who find vote fraud everywhere, all the time, and they couldn't validate Trump's charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said: Explanations welcome. Link to full video Let me get this straight. You're now saying the CNN results are official? Maybe it hasn't occurred to you that whatever you're claiming is a result of the CNN feed rather than an actual vote count. The Chyron or their data feed isn't what counts here Robert although I'd prefer that hahaha. How's that for an explanation? The lower third graphic on a television station's feed isn't official? Does that work? This is Rudy land stuff. Cookoo. Edited November 9, 2020 by Bob Ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 31 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said: Really interesting statistics. What is the source for these numbers? Is this for the Biden/Trump presidential election and the entire nation? And if so, it is obviously not finished as there are still about 3% of votes that have not been counted. Still, I am shocked at the Trump favoring white women's vote. Many so-called credible pre-election polls showed a 20+ anti-trump margin among women voters nationwide. Although I never saw a breakdown of this women's vote by race. Again, if these numbers are accurate, I guess the total anti-Trump women's vote numbers are only higher because of women of color voting anti-Trump. If it was just our white women voting Trump would have won. I thought most white women were repulsed by crude, sex predator, anti-abortion Trump. I still can't believe that white women voted for Trump over Biden...55% to 43%. It actually makes me sick to think our American white women voted for Trump by such a wide margin. I've been double and triple checking white women vote numbers for this election and it appears that the chart numbers above are correct. What do we have here? A nation of racist Trump brainwashed Rosanne Barr's? Guess race hatred is the biggest issue with America's white women to the point of ignoring Trump's "grab em by the pu$$y", sex predator ( even rape?) , misogynistic women insulting, wife cheating filandering, anti-women's right to choose, and throw in pathological lying and corrupt money dealing issues of Trump. Seriously, reading this white women Trump favoring vote just sickens me and has shocked my sense of reality. I can't believe the majority of our white women are like this. Like Roseanne Barr. How do these white moms explain their support of a sexual predator to their daughters? Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-elections/exit-polls I was thinking along those same lines. Don't know how accurate this will be when it's all said and done, but I don't believe it will change greatly. But, at this time, take a look at the total vote count difference between them, approx 4.5 million. Now, look at the total difference just in California, it's fairly close to that 4.5 million. I understand that difference will grow once California is completed, but this is way too close for a total vote count approaching 150 million voters. So, kudos to the majority of African-Americans for being much wiser/smarter in their character assessment of Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 OK Bob, you defined your position. Let us see how these court challenges work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said: OK Bob, you defined your position. Let us see how these court challenges work out. All the states in question go through a post election audit to check for irregularities. I think NH and Alabama (naturally) are the only states that don't. Trump is scamming them to raise money to cover their skimming of campaign funds they'll have to account for IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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