James Richards Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Steve, Several mercenaries who were involved in the Congo action circa 1964/65 under Mike Hoare, were also part of this operational shambles on the Seychelles during the early 1980's. Several told stories regarding Robertson (and his team of Cubans) and comments he made to them about being in Dallas. These mercs had no real interest in the assassination itself and I believed them. As I mentioned in another post on another topic, I am planning a web site for later this year where several new images will be on show, including some of O'Hare and Robertson. Cheers, James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Rosen Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 James, Thanks for the information. Your comment that Congo mercenaries told stories about Rip Robertson confirming to them that he was in Dallas (presumably, on 11.22.63) seems highly significant. If your several sources are correct, then William "Rip" Roberton appears to be the first* CIA covert operative who both: (1) Admitted to several people his presence in Dallas on November 22, 1963; and (2) Was apparently photographed in Dealey Plaza during the assassination. This convergence of evidence is important, and, in considering that the mercs accounts of Rip's presence in Dealey Plaza further validate your interpretation of the photographic record, as per http://www.manuscriptservice.com/FFiDP-2/, can you provide more details? Regards, Steve *Some of course would cite David Sanchez Morales' comments to friends that he was in Dallas along with the pictures at http://www.manuscriptservice.com/FFiDP/, but I don't believe the photographic comparison is nearly as strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Richards Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 James, Thanks for the information. Your comment that Congo mercenaries told stories about Rip Robertson confirming to them that he was in Dallas (presumably, on 11.22.63) seems highly significant. If your several sources are correct, then William "Rip" Roberton appears to be the first* CIA covert operative who both: (1) Admitted to several people his presence in Dallas on November 22, 1963; and (2) Was apparently photographed in Dealey Plaza during the assassination. This convergence of evidence is important, and, in considering that the mercs accounts of Rip's presence in Dealey Plaza further validate your interpretation of the photographic record, as per http://www.manuscriptservice.com/FFiDP-2/, can you provide more details? Regards, Steve *Some of course would cite David Sanchez Morales' comments to friends that he was in Dallas along with the pictures at http://www.manuscriptservice.com/FFiDP/, but I don't believe the photographic comparison is nearly as strong. Steve, Since I made those initial comparisons, there have been some developments. Firstly, I do still believe that Rip Robertson was in Dallas and that he was a part of the operational plan. I also think that a Cuban he trained and commanded was a member of the assassination squad itself. Having said that, it now pains me to say that some doubt has been shed on my belief that the man photographed at the corner of Main and Houston is indeed Rip Robertson. In the past, I have been a strong supporter that this man was him but other photographs I have recently seen of Robertson suggest I may well be wrong. This is a frustrating business and one must be prepared to admit when one is wrong. This is not the first time and I dare say it will not be the last. FWIW, I do not think David Morales was photographed in Dealey Plaza. Cheers, James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Rosen Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 John, thanks for posting the 1961 photo of Robertson that you credit to The Bay of Pigs: Cuba 1961 by Alejandro Quesada. http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKrobertsonW.htm Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Rosen Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 (edited) The attached obituary for William A. 'Rip' Robertson confirms that he died on December 1, 1970 at age 50, making his birth likely 1920. Hard to say with certainty when cemetery records from the Department of Veterans Affairs have conflicting birth dates and burial dates. See also these related threads re: Robertson's death: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...15&start=15 http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...=6927&st=15 - Steve WA_Robertson_obit_Wash_Post_Dec_70.pdf Edited April 23, 2010 by Steve Rosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 James...in my opinion you are wrong about being wrong about Robertson being at Main and Houston. Jack James, Thanks for the information. Your comment that Congo mercenaries told stories about Rip Robertson confirming to them that he was in Dallas (presumably, on 11.22.63) seems highly significant. If your several sources are correct, then William "Rip" Roberton appears to be the first* CIA covert operative who both: (1) Admitted to several people his presence in Dallas on November 22, 1963; and (2) Was apparently photographed in Dealey Plaza during the assassination. This convergence of evidence is important, and, in considering that the mercs accounts of Rip's presence in Dealey Plaza further validate your interpretation of the photographic record, as per http://www.manuscriptservice.com/FFiDP-2/, can you provide more details? Regards, Steve *Some of course would cite David Sanchez Morales' comments to friends that he was in Dallas along with the pictures at http://www.manuscriptservice.com/FFiDP/, but I don't believe the photographic comparison is nearly as strong. Steve, Since I made those initial comparisons, there have been some developments. Firstly, I do still believe that Rip Robertson was in Dallas and that he was a part of the operational plan. I also think that a Cuban he trained and commanded was a member of the assassination squad itself. Having said that, it now pains me to say that some doubt has been shed on my belief that the man photographed at the corner of Main and Houston is indeed Rip Robertson. In the past, I have been a strong supporter that this man was him but other photographs I have recently seen of Robertson suggest I may well be wrong. This is a frustrating business and one must be prepared to admit when one is wrong. This is not the first time and I dare say it will not be the last. FWIW, I do not think David Morales was photographed in Dealey Plaza. Cheers, James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 (edited) Robertson - Yes O'Hare - Yes Hemming - Yes Harrelson (Tall Tramp) - Yes Morales (Lamppost) - No Conein (Houston St.) - No Hunt (Old Tramp) - No Lansdale - Possible or better GHW Bush - Possible Hunt (Lawn between Main and Elm, Cancellare) - Bears scrutiny Edited April 24, 2010 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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