The Bush Family and Barry Seal

[John Simkin]

Just before his death Barry Seal was asked by his close friend, Rene Martin, if he feared being killed by the Ochoa family, the Colombians he was working for (Seal had made it clear that as a result of an IRS investigation that he was willing to name names). Barry Seal replied that he was not afraid of the Colombians because he had told Ochoa he intended to testify against the US government. This is supported by Lewis Unglesby, Seal’s lawyer. He confirmed that the man Seal was going to testify against was George H. W. Bush.

There was apparently another reason why George Bush wanted Seal dead. According to friends, Seal had a copy of a videotape of a 1985 DEA cocaine sting which had netted George Bush's two sons, George and Jeb, picking up kilos of cocaine at a Florida airport.

[Chuck Robbins]

Just before his death Barry Seal was asked by his close friend, Rene Martin, if he feared being killed by the Ochoa family, the Colombians he was working for (Seal had made it clear that as a result of an IRS investigation that he was willing to name names). Barry Seal replied that he was not afraid of the Colombians because he had told Ochoa he intended to testify against the US government. This is supported by Lewis Unglesby, Seal’s lawyer. He confirmed that the man Seal was going to testify against was George H. W. Bush.

There was apparently another reason why George Bush wanted Seal dead. According to friends, Seal had a copy of a videotape of a 1985 DEA cocaine sting which had netted George Bush's two sons, George and Jeb, picking up kilos of cocaine at a Florida airport.

The Bush Regime is set to run this country for years and years.

Anyone who is able to bring these people to justice, and expresses a willingness to do so, will wind up dead.

Our military has been sent to another country at least once, by the Bush family, to clean up evidence linking a Bush to drug operations.

Remember Noriega in Panama? he thought he could threaten Bush from the safety of his country.. boy was he wrong. His country was invaded, all evidence implicating Bush was collected, and Noriega ends up doing the time Bush should have been doing.

There is no court in the world that can tell the U.S. what it can, and can not, do. That is a pity. So long as might makes right, this world will continue be a cesspool of human misery.

The haves will continue to kill to keep what they have, and, the have nots will continue to be victimized as a result of this willingness to exchange human life for creature comforts.

Until the American public pulls it's collective head out of it's rear-end...there will be no relief in sight.

This is a depressing time in American history.

Chuck

[Shanet Clark]

Just before his death Barry Seal was asked by his close friend, Rene Martin, if he feared being killed by the Ochoa family, the Colombians he was working for (Seal had made it clear that as a result of an IRS investigation that he was willing to name names). Barry Seal replied that he was not afraid of the Colombians because he had told Ochoa he intended to testify against the US government. This is supported by Lewis Unglesby, Seal’s lawyer. He confirmed that the man Seal was going to testify against was George H. W. Bush.

There was apparently another reason why George Bush wanted Seal dead. According to friends, Seal had a copy of a videotape of a 1985 DEA cocaine sting which had netted George Bush's two sons, George and Jeb, picking up kilos of cocaine at a Florida airport.

The Bush Regime is set to run this country for years and years.

Anyone who is able to bring these people to justice, and expresses a willingness to do so, will wind up dead.

Our military has been sent to another country at least once, by the Bush family, to clean up evidence linking a Bush to drug operations.

Remember Noriega in Panama? he thought he could threaten Bush from the safety of his country.. boy was he wrong. His country was invaded, all evidence implicating Bush was collected, and Noriega ends up doing the time Bush should have been doing.

There is no court in the world that can tell the U.S. what it can, and can not, do. That is a pity. So long as might makes right, this world will continue be a cesspool of human misery.

The haves will continue to kill to keep what they have, and, the have nots will continue to be victimized as a result of this willingness to exchange human life for creature comforts.

Until the American public pulls it's collective head out of it's rear-end...there will be no relief in sight.

This is a depressing time in American history.

Chuck

John

As Vice President George Herbert Walker Bush had himself appointed head of a Florida coastal drug interdiction task force. He is accused of micro managing this authority on certain evenings ......

but if the friends of Barry Seal are correct, then BUSH SENIOR's South Florida Drug Interdiction Task Force

really paid off, much to the voters taxpayers and workers of Texas Florida and the United States

expense IT WOULD NOT SUPRISE ME ////////////////

Edited May 30, 2006 by Shanet Clark

[Guest Robert Morrow]

Here is my web link on "Jeb Bush and the 1986 Murder of CIA Drug Smuggler Barry Seal"

http://barrysealmurd...h.blogspot.com/

Edited March 15, 2013 by Robert Morrow

[Stephen Roy]

Just a quick aside on Seal, one of those little inaccuracies repeated from book to book, the kind of inaccuracy that bugs me.

A 2001 book by Daniel Hopsicker entitled "Barry and the Boys" postulates that future drug smuggler Adler B. "Barry" Seal, was a cadet in the Baton Rouge CAP squadron, attended a bivouac at Barksdale Air Force base in Shreveport, and while there met David Ferrie and Lee Harvey Oswald. Contemporaneous news accounts indicate that such a bivouac did occur between July 24 and August 7, 1955, and that cadets from various squadrons, including Lakefront, Moisant and Baton Rouge did attend, and a young man Hopsicker identifies as Barry Seal is shown boarding a USAF plane. However, after the publication of the book, Seal’s younger brother Benjamin said that it was he who was in CAP, went to the bivouac and was pictured in the paper. The question of Ferrie’s attendance at the event is unsettled: The book quotes a friend of Seal’s who recalls Ferrie there, but the event occurred after Ferrie left the Lakefront squadron, while he was a guest lecturer at the Moisant squadron, which would make him technically ineligible. The question of Oswald’s attendance seems even more uncertain: The bivouac began on July 24, but Oswald joined the CAP on July 27, while the event was in progress. It seems unlikely that Oswald would be permitted to fly in a USAF plane to attend an official CAP event before he had actually joined the organization. Further, former CAP cadet Joseph Thompson noted that "it was necessary to be an active member for ninety days before becoming eligible" for CAP encampments.

However, the matter seems to be settled by the existence of a Moisant CAP roster, showing which cadets attended which event. Collin Hamer joined the CAP’s Moisant Squadron at around the time Oswald left it, and he eventually became the Squadron Adjutant, the man who kept the records of the cadets and their activities. Among the records Hamer inherited were the rosters for the time relevant time period. When Oswald’s time in the CAP later became an issue, Hamer located and segregated all relevant records. The alphabetical roster of the Moisant CAP cadets’ attendance at encampments was (and today, still is) missing the page with the first half of the alphabet, but the page with the second half of the alphabet indicates that Lee Harvey Oswald did not attend the Barksdale event.

Further, I interviewed some of the same people Hopsicker interviewed, and they feel that his accuracy in relating those interviews is questionable.

[Guest Robert Morrow]

Barry Seal and his Argument with VP George Herbert Walker Bush

[Daniel Hopsicker, "Barry & the Boys: The CIA, The Mob and America's Secret History," pp. 375-376]

"Lewis Unglesby is today a prominent and very well connected Louisiana lawyer. At the time his name was daily on the front page of the state's newspapers., defending his long-time client and associate, Governor Edwin Edwards.

Unglesby had told us about a confrontation he had with Barry over the fact that Seal was keeping him in the dark about matters Unglesbly considered crucial to defending him...

"Barry pushed the phone across the desk to me and said, 'You wanna know what's going on? Here. Dial this number. Tell 'em you're me,' Unglesby related.

"When I did what he requested," he continued, "A female voice answered the phone, sayin' 'Vice President Bush's office, may I help you?'"

"I said, 'This is Barry Seal.' She asked me to wait while she transferred the call, which was immediately picked up by a man who identified himself as Admiral somebody or other, who said to me 'Barry, Where you been?'"

"That's when I told him that I wasn't Barry Seal, I was his lawyer," said Unglesby. "Immediately he slammed down the phone."

So why was Barry Seal murdered?" we asked Sharpstein.

"Unglesby said he had been with Seal when the IRS came and seized all his property," Sharpstein related. "The IRS man said, 'You owe us $30 million for the money you made in drug dealing.'

"Hey, I work for you," was Seal's reply. "We work for the same people."

"You don't work for us," the IRS agent stated. "We're the IRS."

"Unglesby was with Seal when he retired to a back room." Sharpstein stated. "He watched as Seal placed a call to George Bush. He heard Barry Seal tell Bush, 'If you don't get these IRS assholes off my back I'm going to blow the whistle on the Contra scheme."

Sharpstein spoke solemnly, aware of the gravity of his words..., "'That's why he's dead,' is what Unglesby said."

One week after the phone conversation between Barry Seal and George Bush, Seal was sentenced to a halfway house. Two weeks later he was dead.

"Barry Seal, you mean that agent that went bad?" Gordon Novel had casually inquired, when we'd posed the question of his associations with Seal.

An agent that 'goes bad,' as we understand intelligence industry trade jargon, is one who contemplates talking.

"Seal was gunned down, supposedly by those Colombians," says Sharpstein. "But they were fed information by the assholes in our government who wanted him dead."

The assassination of Barry Seal was very likely even not the first attempt on Seal's life by North, we were told by CIA electronics expert Red Hall, on the ground in Nicaragua with Seal on the Sandinista drug sting....

"The only thing I knew was the CIA had a lot to do with it (Barry's murder.) The killers were being directed by Oliver North at the time. It was the same thing Oliver North pulled on us down in Nicaragua."

"Then, I didn't know yet that Oliver North had it for Barry Seal, because he was working with Oliver at that particular point. We was undercover, and we were still down there (Nicaragua), when Oliver blew the whistle on us."

Chip Tatum, another covert operative who had known Seal and shared confidences with him, listened with amusement the first time we breathlessly relayed what we'd discovered: that Oliver North is guilty in the assassination of Barry Seal...

"No xxxx, Sherlock," he replied, laughing. "It ain't exactly the secret of the century, I can tell you."

[Daniel Hopsicker, Barry & the Boys: The CIA, The Mob and America's Secret History, pp. 375-376]

Al Martin’s conversation with Jeb Bush just days after the Feb, 1986 Murder of Barry Seal in Baton Rouge. Jeb Bush had been at a meeting in Sept, 1985, where the assassination of Barry Seal had been discussed

Al Martin: "In this discussion, I had mentioned the recent assassination, only a few days before, of Barry Seal [Feb, 1986, outside his halfway house in New Orleans].

I said to Jeb, "Isn't it convenient that Barry Seal was assassinated when he was? And now suddenly all the information and documents he had are gone missing?"

Jeb had a rather broad smile on his face, and he concurred that it was convenient. He added a little snicker - as he often had a tendency of doing. Also little beads of sweat formed on his forehead, as when he gets nervous. It's something you can notice when he's on television. He still has a tendency to have little beads of sweat around his forehead, when he is either lying about something, or he's nervous about what someone is saying."

My conversations with Jeb at this meeting were overheard by the two Secret Service agents who were always assigned to Jeb when he was in his office at 1390 Brickell Avenue in Miami.

I had intimated that if certain parties in Washington were not prepared to come to my aid pursuant to my grand jury testimony, that it would be entirely possible that certain details of a certain meeting occurring in September of the year [sept., 1985] before might be leaked out to the press.

Jeb asked me what I was talking about.

I specifically mentioned a September meeting of the Dade County Latin America Chamber of Commerce, which Jeb chaired, and which, of course, was not used as a Chamber of Commerce meeting at all. It was essentially used as a political meeting for covert operational planning pursuant to Iran-Contra.

As I've said before, Oliver North, Richard Secord or Dewey Clarridge or, in a few cases, even Sam Watson and Fred Ikley himself, would show up at these meetings.

Anyway, I had recounted to Jeb, as if he didn't know what the text of that meeting was that he chaired - the conversations he had with Oliver North and Richard Secord and Dewey Clarridge, all of whom attended that meeting.

Dewey seldom attended the meetings, but this time the four of them were discussing the assassination of Barry Seal and how it was to be carried out, since Barry was becoming an increasing liability.

I had told Jeb that I had substantial corroboration of that meeting. And I think Jeb understood what I meant.

It would certainly place him into a conspiracy to assassinate a CIA drug runner for the sake of political expediency.

When I was through speaking, Jeb became quiet and his demeanor became serious and changed. He became flushed, as he often does when he's frightened.

Jeb responded by telling me that it would be most unfortunate if I were to do that, since I might wind up like George Morales or Johnny Molina.

[ Al Martin, "The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran-Contra Insider," p. 194-195]

Jeb Bush and the Murders of George Morales and Johnny Molina

[ Al Martin, "The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran-Contra Insider," p. 195-198 ]

What he was referring to, of course, was that, a number of months earlier, George Morales had been set up on a cocaine charge – to distance what Morales was doing from the CIA.

As any serious student of Iran-Contra would know, Morales absolutely screamed “CIA, CIA.”

But ultimately he was convicted.

He was bound and gagged in the courtroom before the Republican Judge Hoover, who allowed him to present no CIA defense. He couldn’t mention any Bush names, or North, or Secord, or anything.

He got the standard fifteen-year sentence for cocaine trafficking. At the time, in the State of Florida, you had to serve six years nine months mandatory.

Jeb then went on to mention to me about Morales. He said “Of course, Morales will never leave prison alive.”

Fast forward to the time when Morales was due to be released from prison in early 1992.

The day before Morales was to be released, he did, in fact, slip on a bar of soap in the prisoner’s shower and supposedly died as a result of the fall.

The following day, Morales was due to be picked up at the Miami International Airport by a Congressional charter flight arranged for him by Congressmen Alexander, Rose, Brooks and Gonzalez. He was to be taken to Washington to have a detailed discussion with them and their investigators about his knowledge of Iran-Contra.

At that moment, the threat Jeb was making to me – the sublime threat about not wanting to wind up like Johnny Molina – really didn’t mean anything to me because I knew as of the day before that Molina was still alive and well.

I didn’t think anything of it until the next day when I got into my office and opened the Miami Herald.

I read that Mr. Molina had in fact “committed suicide” that evening in the parking lot of a restaurant in Pensacola, Florida.

He had “committed suicide” by discharging an entire twenty-round clip of a MAC-10 into his own body.

Of course, by the following day, the body had quickly been cremated – before his family was notified and before an autopsy could be done.

It’s the same old story.

It was interesting to note that Jeb had issued that threat at that meeting which was held at about 10:30 a.m.

Molina “committed suicide” at about 9:30 p.m. that evening.

I found the connection rather humorous, but also salient in that Bush knew what was going to happen a number of hours before it actually did.

A second interesting and humorous story I can relate from that September meeting was not only the discussion of Barry Seal, but the general discussion of narcotics, wherein Jeb was talking to Oliver North.

Dewey Clarridge and Joe Fernandez were there and Jeb was whining about how they were importing so much cocaine for the purposes of maintaining illicit covert revenue streams that, in fact, they were depressing the street value of the price of cocaine.

Revenues were in fact diminishing.

And North chuckled, and said that he had already made arrangements, that he, Dewey, Fred Ikley and Clair George had made arrangements.

What they were referring to by “arrangements” was the opening of the so-called sea routes to substantially increase the amount of cocaine that was being imported.

Jeb Bush said to Oliver North, “All you would manage to do is to further the price of cocaine.”

North’s attitude was, “Well, we’ll simply bring in more and more of the stuff to maintain revenues.”

As it has been pointed out in the past, CIA-assisted enterprise narcotics trafficking managed to depress the street price of a value of cocaine from $30,000 in early 1985 to $12,000 by mid-1986.

Later in the conversation, Jeb, wanting to be helpful, threw out a suggestion regarding the separate Guns-For-Drugs Operation being run out of Mena Airport in Arkansas.

He suggested that North start changing the fraction vis-à-vis the Contras.

Instead of one M-16 rifle, 1,000 rounds of ammunition, and the full field kit in exchange for one kilogram of cocaine, Bush suggested that North inform Enrico Bermudez and Eden Pastora that henceforth it was going to be two kilograms of cocaine for the same weapons delivery as it had been in the past.

North rebuffed this suggestion, reminding Bush that the one M-16 rifle, ammunition and field kit cost them a total of a $1,000 net delivered and the value of the kilogram of cocaine was still $17,000 or $18,000.

The third and final salient highlight I’d like to point out about that meeting (which was an important and pivotal meeting) is that General Secord had mentioned to Jeb Bush – and I was standing not two feet from him – that some of Jeb’s hangers-on (some of the old Cuban Bay of Pigs crowd that were Jeb Bush hangers-on vis-à-vis Jeb wearing his hat as a scamscateer and a money launderer) were beginning to have big mouths.

And Jeb asked, “Who?”

Secord specifically said it was the infamous Manny Perez, who was a very close ally of Jeb’s and had been for a long time. Perez used to act as a straw at various fraudulent deals for Jeb. He transported cash. He wired money into accounts he controlled through a variety of other straws. He was also very close with Jeb at Eagle National Bank in Miami.

Jeb asked General Secord what he, Jeb Bush, was supposed to do about it.

And Dick Secord said, “Well, your father controls your show and he’s got to clean up his own mess.”

History records it wasn’t long after an article appeared in a certain major newspaper about Manny Perez.

Evidently Manny’s body was found floating in a canal in West Hialeah, and his death was duly declared a “swimming accident.”

Perhaps the reader can better understand the phone call I received the day after the November 1998 elections when Jeb Bush won the governorship of the State of Florida.

On that very same evening, I got a phone call from Neil Lewis in Miami, an attorney who had previously represented both Jeb and me, and who had acted as a conduit for people like me to Jeb and Dick Secord and a variety of others.

Neil told me that he had a direct message from Jeb stating that if I wished to continue to be a resident of this state and to remain at large and with life that I best not reveal stories such as I have revealed here.

When Neil relayed the threat to me that evening, I told Neil that when he talked to Jeb the following day (which I knew he would because he wanted to know what my response would be) to tell Jeb that I was aware that my former close colleague, Larry Hamil, prior to the November 1998 elections, had been involved in a political campaign money laundering scheme, wherein Mr. Hamil laundered certain monies of Chinese origin to certain Republicans (not Democrats, but Republican candidates) including the gubernatorial campaign of Jeb Bush.

Neil laughed and said, “Are you certain you want me to relay that?”

I said, “Yes,” and I didn’t talk to Neil after that.

I can only presume Neil did, in fact, relay that message because the next morning when I got out of bed, I was greeted by a view (outside of my bay windows) of two unmarked cars parked directly in front of my townhouse. They were of the sinister variety I’m used to – dark Chevy Caprices, darkened windows, black-wall tires, four or five aerials coming out of the back of them, Washington D.C. plates.

There was enough sunlight that I could see two men sitting in each vehicle.

And that’s all they did.

They simply sat there and looked directly at my unit. They stayed for a few hours in that position and then drove off.

I had one of my neighbors record the D.C. plates on the car and upon checking them out later in the day, I was informed that no such plates existed.

But nonetheless, the message was sent.

[ Al Martin, "The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran-Contra Insider," p. 195-198 ]

Oliver North speaking to Jeb Bush and Dewey Clarridge in the 1980's: "Well, we haven't decided how we will rule his demise yet - whether it will be accident, natural causes, or suicide."

[Al Martin, The Conspirators: Confessions of an Iran-Contra Insider, p.201]

"As I am a middle-aged man, I have worked or been involved in illegal covert operation of government all my adult life.

How many others in my age group can say they have personally known in their adult lifetimes almost 400 people who have died under clouded circumstances?

The common thread among the deaths of these 400 people was not anything they did - but what they knew.

I wonder how many others can make the same comment about their lives.

It's an indication of the type of life I've led.

Even what I have revealed thus far - it isn't a tenth of what I know. And it is such a task. That's the type of life I've led and what I know. I hope that the flavor of this comes out of what has happened to my friends, those I've known, who became inconvenient to their superiors and who died to maintain the deniability of others.

The egregious nature of the conspiracy surrounding their death goes to a level that is virtually humorous.

When Jeb Bush, Oliver North and Dewey Clarridge once spoke about an individual, North laughed and said, "Well, we haven't decided how we will rule his demise yet - whether it will be accident, natural causes, or suicide.""

[ Al Martin, "The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran-Contra Insider," p. 201]

[Linda Minor]

Al Martin is not exactly a credible source. He had a tendency to just make things up.

[Guest Robert Morrow]

Al Martin is not exactly a credible source. He had a tendency to just make things up.

I think Al Martin is a very credible source and he worked at the right hand of Jeb Bush in the 1980's at the peak of Iran-contra. Al Martin came public because he was angry he did not get a suitcase filled with money to be quiet. He feels as if he had been left out in the cold, after the "operation" went bad and other folks (Oliver North one good example) got protected and taken care of with money, but not him.

Jeb Bush told Martin, "There is no constituency for the truth" when Martin was talking about going public. Jeb Bush also threatened Al Martin by referencing other murders and saying you don't want to end up like those folks: dead.

Edited April 5, 2013 by Robert Morrow