Jon G. Tidd Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Thomas Graves, How many seconds separate the taking of Altgens 6 and the PM photo? Do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) [...] deleted to save bandwidth or whatever --Tommy Edited September 22, 2015 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) [...] Deleted. For the same reason. --Tommy Edited September 22, 2015 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) moved to another thread Edited September 22, 2015 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon G. Tidd Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Duncan, I'll agree, for sake of argument, that PM is a woman. It doesn't matter to me. I don't build any edifice on photographs allegedly taken in D.P. Nor do I build any edifice on medical reports, FBI reports, the Warren Commission. I don't build any edifice, because I'm not sure of the facts. For me, the important questions go to facts. Verifiable facts. Above all, the question goes to why JFK was killed. Please address this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) Above all, the question goes to why JFK was killed. How is anybody supposed to know the answer to that question? Edited September 22, 2015 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Roy Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Don't you have to know who in order to know why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Schmidt Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Don't you have to know who in order to know why? Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon G. Tidd Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I agree that "who" and "why" are the same question. The "who" question is not who pulled the trigger(s). It's who ordered and who had the ability to order the kill; it's who ordered and who had the ability to manage the cover-up. The list here gets pretty small. I include top military leaders, top financial leaders, and their lackeys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Roy Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Nope. You're looking at it backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon G. Tidd Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Stephen Roy, In what way am I looking at it backwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Roy Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 If one is seriously looking at the question of why Kennedy was killed, it is an absolute prerequisite to know to a reasonable certainty who fired the shots. It doesn't matter who had the ability to order the kill; it only matters who was actually connected to the shooting. Likewise, it doesn't matter who had the ability to manage a coverup; it only matters if the coverup was directly connected to the shooting. Ability does not equate to a guilty connection. There is only ONE way to know why, and that is to know who. To start with a list of those who might potentially have ordered or covered-up and then try to tie them to the shooting is to look at the whole process backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon G. Tidd Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Stephen, FWIW, I believe it is immaterial to an understanding of the case to know the identity of the trigger puller(s). The trigger pullers (I subscribe to plural), IMO, were professional killers and no more. I'd bet money if there was a real bet that the killers had no idea who engaged them no idea who paid them. I could be wrong on all counts. But if I'm correct, the trigger pullers aren't the ones to identify. We want their principals, and perhaps even their princiapls' principals. Knowing who stood atop this food chain would tell why JFK was killed, I believe. In this sense, "who" and "why" become the same question but only in this sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Roy Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Your logic is just all wrong, Jon. Without knowing who did it, you run a HUGE chance of falsely accusing someone who might have had a motive, but had nothing to do with it. There are reasons why the process of justice proceeds in a linear fashion. I've read a lot of your stuff. Sometimes you just seem to want to take shortcuts to the nefarious forces you think were behind it. But what if you're wrong, and those shortcuts target the wrong people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon G. Tidd Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Stephen Roy, I don't purport to know who were the trigger pullers. Nor do I purport to know who gave orders to, or paid, the trigger pullers. I don't care who killed JFK. I want to know why he was killed. Was he killed because of Cuba? Israel? Russia? Viet Nam? Tell me, Stephen, who killed JFK. If you say it was Oswald, fine. I just want your thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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