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While Andy and myself were away on our holidays the Forum came under attack from a computer based in Australia. They employed software that used up 98% of our total bandwidth for the month. One again we have had to spend more money to get the Forum back online.

We are currently searching for the culprit. What we do know is that the person responsible was using the IP 59.106.128.138

Thanks, John. We know Burton is an Aussie and avid defender of official stories...you don't suppose....naw, too obvious.

Jack

Jack for all your complaints about provocateurs on this forum lately the worst offender has been you, stop being such a hypocrite. Let’s see you keep accusing Bill of being somebody else, you started what was it three or four threads attacking Gary Mack, you called Evan a xxxx for correctly citing your position that the Moon landings were faked. Just today you accused Brendan, Craig, Bill and I of being accessories after the fact to the JFK assassination because we cast doubt on your theory that just about every image taken in DP that day was altered, funny you didn’t level that accusation at Grodin or Martin Schakleford or Josiah Thompson who have likewise opposed your theories. And now you insinuate without any evidence that Evan was responsible for bringing down the forum should I point out that your co-author John Costella is also an Australian and that he has written sophisticated computer programs and that Sid Walker a webmaster also hails from “down under”. It seems that John Simkin was wrong anyway according to info turned up by John Dolva and Dave Weaver the hacker was based in Osaka not Australia.

Evan’s position AFAIK is that he has no position regarding the assassination, He has opposed your nonsense regarding the Moon landings, ‘chemtrails’ and 9/11. In all those cases he gets the better of you so there would be no need from him to want to crash the forum.

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It seems that John Simkin was wrong anyway according to info turned up by John Dolva and Dave Weaver the hacker was based in Osaka not Australia.

59.106.128.138

Record Type: IP Address

OrgName: Asia Pacific Network Information Centre

OrgID: APNIC

Address: PO Box 2131

City: Milton

StateProv: QLD

PostalCode: 4064

Country: AU

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While Andy and myself were away on our holidays the Forum came under attack from a computer based in Australia. They employed software that used up 98% of our total bandwidth for the month. One again we have had to spend more money to get the Forum back online.

We are currently searching for the culprit. What we do know is that the person responsible was using the IP 59.106.128.138

Thanks, John. We know Burton is an Aussie and avid defender of official stories...you don't suppose....naw, too obvious.

Jack

Jack for all your complaints about provocateurs on this forum lately the worst offender has been you, stop being such a hypocrite. Let’s see you keep accusing Bill of being somebody else, you started what was it three or four threads attacking Gary Mack, you called Evan a xxxx for correctly citing your position that the Moon landings were faked. Just today you accused Brendan, Craig, Bill and I of being accessories after the fact to the JFK assassination because we cast doubt on your theory that just about every image taken in DP that day was altered, funny you didn’t level that accusation at Grodin or Martin Schakleford or Josiah Thompson who have likewise opposed your theories. And now you insinuate without any evidence that Evan was responsible for bringing down the forum should I point out that your co-author John Costella is also an Australian and that he has written sophisticated computer programs and that Sid Walker a webmaster also hails from “down under”. It seems that John Simkin was wrong anyway according to info turned up by John Dolva and Dave Weaver the hacker was based in Osaka not Australia.

Evan’s position AFAIK is that he has no position regarding the assassination, He has opposed your nonsense regarding the Moon landings, ‘chemtrails’ and 9/11. In all those cases he gets the better of you so there would be no need from him to want to crash the forum.

when it comes to "theories", how is Roalnd Zavada and Ray Fielding doing re the upcoming new and improved ZAVADA report....? As you, representing [to this forum] their side of the report; how are they pprogressing? 8 months and counting.

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It seems that John Simkin was wrong anyway according to info turned up by John Dolva and Dave Weaver the hacker was based in Osaka not Australia.

59.106.128.138

Record Type: IP Address

OrgName: Asia Pacific Network Information Centre

OrgID: APNIC

Address: PO Box 2131

City: Milton

StateProv: QLD

PostalCode: 4064

Country: AU

John -

I hope you and Andy can trackdown the culprit

"APNIC is the Regional Internet Registry (RIR) for the Asia Pacific region. The APNIC Whois Database holds details of IP address registrations within this region. You are welcome to use this database to track down the source of the network abuse and find contact details of the relevant network administrators."

http://www.apnic.net/info/faq/abuse/index.html

Perhaps the link above will be helpful

Len

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59.106.128.138

The Project Honey Pot system has detected behavior from the IP address consistent with that of a spam harvester. Below we've reported some other data associated with this IP. This interrelated data helps map spammers' networks and aids in law enforcement efforts.

http://www.projecthoneypot.org/i_47de2c725...8b794b893023f1e

A spam harvester can read through the pages in your site and extract email

addresses which are then added to bulk marketing databases. The result: more spam

Just so there is no misinterpretation or misunderstandings I've highlighted relevant points in original post.

Reading the infopages at grc.com can give insights into these network behaviours etc. tracking out of Australia can be difficult as a gateway is in north queensland and all queries I try from here end at that point. It is however possible to go further. With my resources I can't. There's no reason to doubt John Simkins findings.

The point is that it is likey a data miner at work which given the number of pages on the forum, would mean many many hits, which would soak up considerable bandwidth over time.

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when it comes to "theories", how is Roalnd Zavada and Ray Fielding doing re the upcoming new and improved ZAVADA report....? As you, representing [to this forum] their side of the report; how are they pprogressing? 8 months and counting.

David, I cannot help but notice that while you don't mind not keeping YOUR promises to produce ... you seem to be overly concerned about Zavada's findings. Unlike the claims found in the 'Hoax' book concerning film and photo alteration which appears to have gotten little forethought before being put into print, people like Zavada take their time so to strive for accuracy for they are playing to a more advance scholarly crowd than what we find on these forums.

I hope that your lack of patience with Zavada and Jack's new collection of illustrations isn't a sign of another new alteration book in the works that is dedicated to poor research practices everywhere.

Bill Miller

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Actually, both the Aussie and Japanese address come back for that ip address.

Click here to see the full results.

DNS query for 59.106.128.138 failed: Address not available

Searching for 59.106.128.138 NS record at [0.0.0.0]: Failed to find NS server for domain 59.106.128.138.

-- end --

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Querying whois.arin.net [192.149.252.44]...

OrgName: Asia Pacific Network Information Centre

OrgID: APNIC

Address: PO Box 2131

City: Milton

StateProv: QLD

PostalCode: 4064

Country: AU

--------------------------------

Querying whois.apnic.net [202.12.29.13]...

% [whois.apnic.net node-1]

% Whois data copyright terms http://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html

inetnum: 59.106.0.0 - 59.106.255.255

netname: SAKURA

descr: SAKURA Internet Inc.

descr: Kyutaro-cho 1-8-15, Chuo-ku

descr: Osaka 541-0056, Japan

country: JP

admin-c: JNIC1-AP

tech-c: JNIC1-AP

status: ALLOCATED PORTABLE

remarks: Email address for spam or abuse complaints : support@sakura.ad.jp

mnt-by: MAINT-JPNIC

mnt-lower: MAINT-JPNIC

changed: hm-changed@apnic.net 20041013

source: APNIC

Note that the original ip search turned up nothing, but these two came up in the same search.

JWK

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when it comes to "theories", how is Roalnd Zavada and Ray Fielding doing re the upcoming new and improved ZAVADA report....? As you, representing [to this forum] their side of the report; how are they pprogressing? 8 months and counting.

David, I cannot help but notice that while you don't mind not keeping YOUR promises to produce ... you seem to be overly concerned about Zavada's findings. Unlike the claims found in the 'Hoax' book concerning film and photo alteration which appears to have gotten little forethought before being put into print, people like Zavada take their time so to strive for accuracy for they are playing to a more advance scholarly crowd than what we find on these forums.

I hope that your lack of patience with Zavada and Jack's new collection of illustrations isn't a sign of another new alteration book in the works that is dedicated to poor research practices everywhere.

Bill Miller

Bill,

What you *cannot* help but notice, is no concern of mine. Personally, I could care less what you, or the rest of the DP photo/film non-alteration lapdogs notice, OR think --

What Roland Zavada adds-changes to his initial film/photo/x-ray report DOES interest me! I suspect there are many on the Dealey Plaza film/photo *purist* advocate side of things, who have that same interest.

At the moment, he, Zavada hasn't produced. He flew to see a person I referred to in my original HOAX presentation, he enlisted that same person [Ray Fielding] and his services for the new Zavada Report and update. AFTER that same person told me he WASN'T interested in working on the Zavada update. When Roland Zavada informed me of of Fielding's recruitment [and his professional expertise in his update], he also informed me he'd have the update completed soon. That same update to be posted to this forum (and others, according to Josiah Thompson, *wide purchase*) which I will respond. That was in February 2006 --[Len Colby to act as Zavada's intermediary to this forum]

Roland Zavada and I have had non-confrontational conversations since the book HOAX was published (I guess he saved that for Harry Livingstone).

Roland Zavada's initial visit with Ray Fielding [author of: The Art of Special Effects Cinematography, 1965] was AFTER the release of HOAX, topic of discussion: the Zapruder Film.

Your MO preceeded you here by months, Bill. Do us a favor -- stick to what you know, and tell us what that might be!

Thanks

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Any explanation?

Jack

While Andy and myself were away on our holidays the Forum came under attack from a computer based in Australia. They employed software that used up 98% of our total bandwidth for the month. One again we have had to spend more money to get the Forum back online.

We are currently searching for the culprit. What we do know is that the person responsible was using the IP 59.106.128.138

Thanks, John. We know Burton is an Aussie and avid defender

of official stories...you don't suppose....naw, too obvious.

Jack

I think that demands an apology from you Jack. I don't take baseless and false accusations lightly.

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Any explanation?

Jack

Thanks, John. We know Burton is an Aussie and avid defender

of official stories...you don't suppose....naw, too obvious.

Jack

I think that demands an apology from you Jack. I don't take baseless and false accusations lightly.

Am I the only one who sees this as a joke. Jack was not accusing Mr Burton os anythig except being both "an Aussie and avid defender of official stories". There is no accusation there. Grow some skin and aquire a sense of humor.

Dawn

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Any explanation?

Jack

Thanks, John. We know Burton is an Aussie and avid defender

of official stories...you don't suppose....naw, too obvious.

Jack

I think that demands an apology from you Jack. I don't take baseless and false accusations lightly.

Am I the only one who sees this as a joke. Jack was not accusing Mr Burton os anythig except being both "an Aussie and avid defender of official stories". There is no accusation there. Grow some skin and aquire a sense of humor.

Dawn

Thanks, Dawn. Nice to see someone with a sense of humor.

James Richards is also an Aussie, as is John Costella. But

both are known as OPPOSING OFFICIAL STORIES, so it

would not be funny to accuse them of hacking the forum.

But Burton is an avid supporter of official stories...BUT AS

I STATED, HE OBVIOUSLY WOULD NOT DO IT, AS IT WOULD

BE TOO OBVIOUS! He is unapologetic about defending govt

hoaxes and making personal attacks on those who question

them; why should I apologize for an obvious joke?

Jack

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Thanks, Dawn. Nice to see someone with a sense of humor.

James Richards is also an Aussie, as is John Costella. But

both are known as OPPOSING OFFICIAL STORIES, so it

would not be funny to accuse them of hacking the forum.

But Burton is an avid supporter of official stories...BUT AS

I STATED, HE OBVIOUSLY WOULD NOT DO IT, AS IT WOULD

BE TOO OBVIOUS! He is unapologetic about defending govt

hoaxes and making personal attacks on those who question

them; why should I apologize for an obvious joke?

Jack

The “obvious joke” might have been vaguely humorous if it hadn’t made a person who regularly makes bases accusations against his detractors such as saying they are liars, government agents or accessories to murder. Can you cite any instances when Evan made “personal attacks on those who question” what you consider to be hoaxes*? You accused him of being a xxxx doesn’t that count as a “personal attack” you accused four members of this forum of being “”accessories to murder” what is that if not a personal attack? What about when you stated several threads to attack Gary Mack? What about when you said your critics were “stupid provocateurs”? What about when you accused Bill Miller of really being someone else? I can think of no other member of this forum who levels more personal attacks against his critics than you Jack.

* It should be noted that even here very few people agree with you that “chemtrails” or the moon landings were “obvious hoaxes”

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Thanks, Dawn. Nice to see someone with a sense of humor.

James Richards is also an Aussie, as is John Costella. But

both are known as OPPOSING OFFICIAL STORIES, so it

would not be funny to accuse them of hacking the forum.

But Burton is an avid supporter of official stories...BUT AS

I STATED, HE OBVIOUSLY WOULD NOT DO IT, AS IT WOULD

BE TOO OBVIOUS! He is unapologetic about defending govt

hoaxes and making personal attacks on those who question

them; why should I apologize for an obvious joke?

Jack

The “obvious joke” might have been vaguely humorous if it hadn’t made a person who regularly makes bases accusations against his detractors such as saying they are liars, government agents or accessories to murder. Can you cite any instances when Evan made “personal attacks on those who question” what you consider to be hoaxes*? You accused him of being a xxxx doesn’t that count as a “personal attack” you accused four members of this forum of being “”accessories to murder” what is that if not a personal attack? What about when you stated several threads to attack Gary Mack? What about when you said your critics were “stupid provocateurs”? What about when you accused Bill Miller of really being someone else? I can think of no other member of this forum who levels more personal attacks against his critics than you Jack.

* It should be noted that even here very few people agree with you that “chemtrails” or the moon landings were “obvious hoaxes”

No one else makes more personal attacks?? You might want to re-think that statement.

I know of one member who attacks virtually every person he disagrees with.

One hint...he has been warned he will be removed if he continues those attacks.

Then, those who oppose Jack's point of view, or his observations, generally drive their points home via derision and ridicule. Is it any wonder he lashes out at them?

Now..for my thoughts on the subjects you brought up.

The moon-shots would have to be impossible if there is no means of surviving a pass through the Van Allen radiation belt. As far as I know...this is not possible? I'd like to know if my supposition is incorrect.

9/11? Consider the FACT that several of the supposed hijackers were PROVEN to have been alive and well after the towers crumbled...and I can't help but wonder..WTF? Doesn't this fact disturb you?

Don't ask me to cite sources...investigate the claims yourself to get a true grasp of the inconsistencies extant in the official conclusions regarding the 9/11 event.

Chuck

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What you *cannot* help but notice, is no concern of mine. Personally, I could care less what you, or the rest of the DP photo/film non-alteration lapdogs notice, OR think --

Yet you continue to respond like an ill-tempered little kid ... always on ther side of paranoia - Interesting!

At the moment, he, Zavada hasn't produced. He flew to see a person I referred to in my original HOAX presentation, he enlisted that same person [Ray Fielding] and his services for the new Zavada Report and update. AFTER that same person told me he WASN'T interested in working on the Zavada update. When Roland Zavada informed me of of Fielding's recruitment [and his professional expertise in his update], he also informed me he'd have the update completed soon. That same update to be posted to this forum (and others, according to Josiah Thompson, *wide purchase*) which I will respond. That was in February 2006 --[Len Colby to act as Zavada's intermediary to this forum]

Zavada is not a young man anymore and life throws people curves that they must get through. I am sure that you will one day get your report, but as I said before - Zavada had a good excuse for his delay, unlike yours whereas you don't produce on your promises because you have spent too much time trolling JFK forums.

Your MO preceeded you here by months, Bill. Do us a favor -- stick to what you know, and tell us what that might be!

Thanks

If my MO was 'exposing the piss-poor research that went into the film and photo alteration claims', then it was certainly accurate. It was that same approach that backed you into a corner whereas you had no choice but to admit that you too, have never seen any signs of film and photo alteration .... a remark that I am sure haunts you to this day and certainly one I will not let you to forget any time soon.

Bill Miller

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What you *cannot* help but notice, is no concern of mine. Personally, I could care less what you, or the rest of the DP photo/film non-alteration lapdogs notice, OR think --

Yet you continue to respond like an ill-tempered little kid ... always on ther side of paranoia - Interesting!

At the moment, he, Zavada hasn't produced. He flew to see a person I referred to in my original HOAX presentation, he enlisted that same person [Ray Fielding] and his services for the new Zavada Report and update. AFTER that same person told me he WASN'T interested in working on the Zavada update. When Roland Zavada informed me of of Fielding's recruitment [and his professional expertise in his update], he also informed me he'd have the update completed soon. That same update to be posted to this forum (and others, according to Josiah Thompson, *wide purchase*) which I will respond. That was in February 2006 --[Len Colby to act as Zavada's intermediary to this forum]

Zavada is not a young man anymore and life throws people curves that they must get through. I am sure that you will one day get your report, but as I said before - Zavada had a good excuse for his delay, unlike yours whereas you don't produce on your promises because you have spent too much time trolling JFK forums.

Your MO preceeded you here by months, Bill. Do us a favor -- stick to what you know, and tell us what that might be!

Thanks

If my MO was 'exposing the piss-poor research that went into the film and photo alteration claims', then it was certainly accurate. It was that same approach that backed you into a corner whereas you had no choice but to admit that you too, have never seen any signs of film and photo alteration .... a remark that I am sure haunts you to this day and certainly one I will not let you to forget any time soon.

Bill Miller

Zavada, he's not a young man anymore? Sounded pretty spry and chipper when I last spoke to him.... Appears he enjoyed sparring with Livingstone, went so far as to come all the way to the west coast to enjoy the debate -- Have you spoke to him? Is this an official announcement from the DP film/photo purist camp that Rollie is taking a pass on this? You wearing that mantle now, Is Colby out of the loop?

Ah, what corner is that that I'm backed up into? Remember dimbulb; I'm the one that can't prove Z-film alteration, on the record and published as same.

Now if you want to arrange a session where 5 or 6 film effects compositors can get together and view the *latest* NARA version of the in-camera Zapruder film, that might get us a step closer...

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