Francesca Akhtar Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 In regards to the Centex Corporation, I found this rather interesting document: http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/....do?docId=56993 I wonder who this 'Swanson' was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Akhtar Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 In regards to the Centex Corporation, I found this rather interesting document:http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/....do?docId=56993 I wonder who this 'Swanson' was? Could this be him? http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...mp;relPageId=28 (Last two paragraphs then continues over the page) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen Collins Posted June 29, 2007 Author Share Posted June 29, 2007 In regards to the Centex Corporation, I found this rather interesting document:http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/....do?docId=56993 I wonder who this 'Swanson' was? Could this be him? http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...mp;relPageId=28 (Last two paragraphs then continues over the page) Through my perusal, I did not find the Centex Corp. Could you tell me what page it's on -- it's a rather large file. Donald O. Norton used to live at Art Swanson's address supposedly. This Swanson had a left-wing radio show. I never heard of the other Swanson mentioned. Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Akhtar Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 In regards to the Centex Corporation, I found this rather interesting document:http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/....do?docId=56993 I wonder who this 'Swanson' was? Could this be him? http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...mp;relPageId=28 (Last two paragraphs then continues over the page) Through my perusal, I did not find the Centex Corp. Could you tell me what page it's on -- it's a rather large file. Donald O. Norton used to live at Art Swanson's address supposedly. This Swanson had a left-wing radio show. I never heard of the other Swanson mentioned. Kathy Sorry Kathy, my mistake. I thought I'd posted the link directly to the page, I didn't realise, I left part of the URL off. Here is the correct link: http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=143 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Richards Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 In regards to the Centex Corporation, I found this rather interesting document:http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/....do?docId=56993 I wonder who this 'Swanson' was? Francesca, The 'Swanson' mentioned in that document was in fact Stuart G. Swenson. Amongst other things, he was a supporter of General Walker for govenor in 1962. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen Collins Posted June 30, 2007 Author Share Posted June 30, 2007 Sorry Kathy, my mistake. I thought I'd posted the link directly to the page, I didn't realise, I left part of the URL off. Here is the correct link: http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=143 Thanks, Francesca. So far it seems like a coincidence. But I'd like to learn more about other employees or big shots involved with that company, Centex. Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Akhtar Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 In regards to the Centex Corporation, I found this rather interesting document:http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/....do?docId=56993 I wonder who this 'Swanson' was? Francesca, The 'Swanson' mentioned in that document was in fact Stuart G. Swenson. Amongst other things, he was a supporter of General Walker for govenor in 1962. James Thanks James. Isn't it funny how a lot of these people seem to lead back to Walker?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Howard Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 While still in New York fighting deportation. Yoko and John were in touch with an organization that monitored police abuse within the United States. Yoko told someone in the organization that she and John wanted to get away for a quiet vacation, and she was told to call a woman in Ojai, California, near Santa Barbara. two hours north of Los Angeles. The woman had a mansion in an agricultural preserve and it was not being used. When Yoko was told about Ojai, Her enthusiasm convinced John this was the perfect place. Ojai was known for its classical music festival, its quiet conservatism, its genteel and wealthy citizenry, its orange groves and private schools. It was also well known as a center of spiritualism. The famous guru Krishnamurti lived in the east end of town, not far from the mansion John and Yoko rented, back in the 1920’s, and, in fact, had his key mystical experience while walking the Ojai hills. Before that the mysterious visionary Chumash Indian tribe lived in the area. After Krishnamurti, came the Theosophists, who founded their own colony of mystics. More recently, Ojai was the home to Aldous Huxley, the author and early psychedelic explorer. They loved the house. The owner was an Anglophile, so the beautifully landscaped grounds had the look of an English garden.......” If I am not mistaken, this is from the book Yoko Ono page 173 by Jerry Hopkins Interestingly enough, Huxley died on the same day that John F. Kennedy did....... As a student of history, I do have other interests besides the JFK Assassination. Which probably explains why I have a copy of Madame Blavatsky's Baboon, by Peter Washington.....Which also happens to mention Ojai....maybe I shouldn't have posted this here, but the point was to show that California had some pretty strange persons and connections to the JFK & RFK assassinations in 1963 and 1968......Besides the John Birch Society.......If I was looking for any additional Murchison links in addition to some of the material presented on this thread, the Del Charro Set, and J.E. Hoover wouldn't be a bad place to look for linkages. FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Akhtar Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 maybe I shouldn't have posted this here, but the point was to show that California had some pretty strange persons and connections to the JFK & RFK assassinations in 1963 It's funny you mention this as I was just going to post about another link to California. I was just reading in 'Bloody Treason' that HL Hunt's son Nelson Bunker Hunt apparently bought a ranch in California. Twyman got hold of CBS reporter Peter Noyes'; notes of his investigation into Hunt and an organisation called the AVG (American Volunteer Group) that said that: "Rothermel said that..........Nelson proceeded with his plans to set up AVG and bought a ranch through real estate broker William H. Cies................Rothermel said he did not know the exact location of the ranch Nelson Hunt purchased, but he thought it wa somewhere around Santa Maria (California). He saidhe would try to find out the exact location from his records. Rothermel described the ranch as Nelson Hunt's West Coast base for para-military operations, maneuvers, etc. He also said Nelson Hunt had set up a similar organisation in Europe known as Der Burd and that it had taken several assignments from the CIA. Rothermel did not state the exact date of his conversation with Nelson Hunt in California. Rothermel also discussed the meeting at the Hunt Oil Company, November 21st, 1963. He said the reception log read as follows: To see Nelson and Lamar Hunt: Morgan Brown, Claud Duval, Roger Bauman and party. He said he was convinced by party Bauman meant Jim Braden" (From page 559 of 'Bloody Treason' by Noel Twyman). I find this very interesting. Would this ranch have been anywhere near Camarillo Ranch? Just wondering if there might have been some sort of connection between the two? The book also mentions that the AVG was a spinoff organisation from the Minuteman. Twyman, also quoting from Noyes' notes says of this organisation: " The topic of AVG was first mentioned to me in a conversation with former FBI agent Bill Turner in February of 1970. Turner said he had interviewed Robert DePugh, national leader of the Minutemen at Leavenworth where DePugh was imprisoned on conspiracy charges. According to Turner: DePugh said the Minuteman were split into a number of factions inclusing his original group: a Neo-Nazi faction and AVG. DePugh claimed he tried to start AVG as a front organisation but others took it away from him. He apparently implied to Turner that AVG was a dangerous, para-military operation." (From page 557 of 'Bloody Treason) All this makes for interesting reading! Does anyone have any thoughts?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesca Akhtar Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Thanks Peter for the info - I didn't know this. Can you elaborate on who any of these 'heavies' were? (I understand if you can't.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen Collins Posted July 28, 2007 Author Share Posted July 28, 2007 I'd have to check notes of interviews not at hand, but if my memory serves me, Plumlee said he flew Roselli and others to a landing-strip near that Ranch in the months before the events of Dallas. Peter, I believe you are correct about the landing strip. There was also a weapons training facility not too far away. James If my assumption is correct that Rosselli acted as a bag man for the plotters, is there significance to his arrival here in the months prior to the assassination vis either a hired assassin's part payment and/or supply of gear. Hmm, weapons training nearby!!! Do 2+2 make 4 in this case? PS. Forgot to add this CAMARILLO FAMILY MAUSOLEUM Situated at rear of St. Mary Magdalen Chapel, 2532 E. Ventura Blvd., Camarillo, CA 93010 Memorial Tablet at entrance to mausoleum reads: in Memorium Parents Juan Camarillo Born May 27, 1812 Died December 4, 1880 Martina Hernandez Camarillo Born November 11, 1825 Died April 15, 1898 Liberi Born Died Praxedes Camarillo July 9, 1842 April 11, 1869 Adelaida C. Moraga February 19, 1844 February 3, 1930 Aldegunda C. Del Campo January 6, 1846 March 22, 1927 Maria C. De Arnaz May 5, 1848 October 11, 1916 Francisca C. Wolfson June 4, 1850 December 4, 1873 Guadalupe Camarillo December 30, 1852 January 3, 1853 Luis Camarillo February 3, 1854 February 11, 1876 Nicefero Camarillo February 9, 1856 April 11, 1876 Magdelena Camarillo May 24, 1858 June 16, 1875 Arcadia C. Mahoney April 22, 1860 December 2, 1925 Adolfo B. Camarillo August 20, 1862 May 10, 1864 Adolfo N. Camarillo October 29, 1864 December 10, 1958 Juan E. Camarillo April 10, 1867 August 21, 1936 Jose Camarillo April 4, 1869 May 9, 1884 Tombstones on East Wall Born Died William Wolfson 1873 1923 Ynez Petit December 16, 1915 July 7, 1917 Isabel Menchaca Camarillo November 5, 1861 July 19, 1936 Adolfo N. Camarillo October 29, 1864 December 10, 1958 Juan E. Camarillo, K. S. S. April 4, 1867 August 21, 1936 Martina Hernandez Camarillo November 11, 1825 May 15, 1898 Juan Camarillo May 27, 1812 December 4, 1880 Thomas J. Donovan February 22, 1864 June 11, 1946 Adelaida C. Moraga 1844 1930 Aldegunda C. Del Campo 1846 1927 Arcadia C. Mahoney 1860 1925 Lt.Col. John Camarillo Petit, U.S.M.C. May 3, 1917 May 14, 1952 Jose Camarillo 1869 1884 Nicefero Camarillo 1856 1876 Martina Camarillo 1895 1896 Minerva Camarillo 1888 1898 Praxides Camarillo 1842 1869 Francisca C. Wolfson 1850 1873 Luis Camarillo 1854 1876 Magdelena Camarillo 1858 1875 Tombstones on West Wall Born Died Carmen Camarillo Jones July 20, 1903 May 19, 1987 Francisco A. Camarillo 1897 1952 Roy E. Jones 1901 1973 Alfred John Petit 1889 1960 James Leonard Nicholson 1922 1994 Rosa Camarillo Petit 1890 1986 Mary Louise Douglas 1896 1998 Jon Emory Petit January 4, 1944 March 9, 1995 Ave Camarillo Fitzgerald August 13, 1892 August 16, 1974 Isabel Camarillo Burket 1897 1963 Infant Parker July 20, 1965 George Gerald Fitzgerald July 16, 1887 April 10, 1952 Susana Burket Lamb 1929 1989 If it's any use Thank you for the list, and all this info. Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen Collins Posted July 28, 2007 Author Share Posted July 28, 2007 I'd have to check notes of interviews not at hand, but if my memory serves me, Plumlee said he flew Roselli and others to a landing-strip near that Ranch in the months before the events of Dallas. Peter, I believe you are correct about the landing strip. There was also a weapons training facility not too far away. James If my assumption is correct that Rosselli acted as a bag man for the plotters, is there significance to his arrival here in the months prior to the assassination vis either a hired assassin's part payment and/or supply of gear. Hmm, weapons training nearby!!! Do 2+2 make 4 in this case? PS. Forgot to add this CAMARILLO FAMILY MAUSOLEUM Situated at rear of St. Mary Magdalen Chapel, 2532 E. Ventura Blvd., Camarillo, CA 93010 Memorial Tablet at entrance to mausoleum reads: in Memorium Parents Juan Camarillo Born May 27, 1812 Died December 4, 1880 Martina Hernandez Camarillo Born November 11, 1825 Died April 15, 1898 Liberi Born Died Praxedes Camarillo July 9, 1842 April 11, 1869 Adelaida C. Moraga February 19, 1844 February 3, 1930 Aldegunda C. Del Campo January 6, 1846 March 22, 1927 Maria C. De Arnaz May 5, 1848 October 11, 1916 Francisca C. Wolfson June 4, 1850 December 4, 1873 Guadalupe Camarillo December 30, 1852 January 3, 1853 Luis Camarillo February 3, 1854 February 11, 1876 Nicefero Camarillo February 9, 1856 April 11, 1876 Magdelena Camarillo May 24, 1858 June 16, 1875 Arcadia C. Mahoney April 22, 1860 December 2, 1925 Adolfo B. Camarillo August 20, 1862 May 10, 1864 Adolfo N. Camarillo October 29, 1864 December 10, 1958 Juan E. Camarillo April 10, 1867 August 21, 1936 Jose Camarillo April 4, 1869 May 9, 1884 Tombstones on East Wall Born Died William Wolfson 1873 1923 Ynez Petit December 16, 1915 July 7, 1917 Isabel Menchaca Camarillo November 5, 1861 July 19, 1936 Adolfo N. Camarillo October 29, 1864 December 10, 1958 Juan E. Camarillo, K. S. S. April 4, 1867 August 21, 1936 Martina Hernandez Camarillo November 11, 1825 May 15, 1898 Juan Camarillo May 27, 1812 December 4, 1880 Thomas J. Donovan February 22, 1864 June 11, 1946 Adelaida C. Moraga 1844 1930 Aldegunda C. Del Campo 1846 1927 Arcadia C. Mahoney 1860 1925 Lt.Col. John Camarillo Petit, U.S.M.C. May 3, 1917 May 14, 1952 Jose Camarillo 1869 1884 Nicefero Camarillo 1856 1876 Martina Camarillo 1895 1896 Minerva Camarillo 1888 1898 Praxides Camarillo 1842 1869 Francisca C. Wolfson 1850 1873 Luis Camarillo 1854 1876 Magdelena Camarillo 1858 1875 Tombstones on West Wall Born Died Carmen Camarillo Jones July 20, 1903 May 19, 1987 Francisco A. Camarillo 1897 1952 Roy E. Jones 1901 1973 Alfred John Petit 1889 1960 James Leonard Nicholson 1922 1994 Rosa Camarillo Petit 1890 1986 Mary Louise Douglas 1896 1998 Jon Emory Petit January 4, 1944 March 9, 1995 Ave Camarillo Fitzgerald August 13, 1892 August 16, 1974 Isabel Camarillo Burket 1897 1963 Infant Parker July 20, 1965 George Gerald Fitzgerald July 16, 1887 April 10, 1952 Susana Burket Lamb 1929 1989 If it's any use Thank you for the list, and all this info. Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda Minor Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I just came across a reference here http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...mp;relPageId=12 that says Jeanne deMohrenschildt's first husband, Robert LeGon, was a mental patient at Camarillo State Hospital in 1960. At that time Jeanne's daughter went to live with Jeanne's brother, Sergei Fomenko, who was a nuclear physicist who worked with Robert Oppenheimer. Also here: http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=248681 http://www.ajweberman.com/nodules2/nodulec10.htm JEANNE FOMENKO LE GON In early 1957 George DeMohrenschildt and Jeanne Fomenko Le Gon, whose father had owned the Chinese National Railroad in pre-Communist China, ran off to Mexico together. The husband of Jeanne Fomenko Le Gon, Robert LeGon, went to the FBI, and asked the Bureau to open an Internal Security investigation on George DeMohrenschildt. Robert Le Gon was interviewed by FBI S.A. Hosty. James Hosty commented: "I was the second agent. It was actually Ed Kirkenthal who did the investigation. He would have written it up." [WCD 533 p69] The FBI Report concerning Robert Le Gon's complaint contained a deleted paragraph followed by the words "(The Dallas County District Attorney is Henry Wade, from Special Agent of the FBI." [Ltr. To Bureau 2.1.57 From SAC Dallas (105-632)]The interview with Robert Le Gon determined that another brother of Jeanne LeGon, Sergei Fomenko, worked with Robert Oppenheimer on the Manhattan Project developing the A-Bomb. The FBI had suspected that George DeMohrenschildt had been collecting data regarding the operation of a uranium plant. [WCD 532] On August 8, 1960, Robert Le Gon was officially committed to the Camillo [sic] State Mental Hospital and was diagnosed as schizophrenic reaction, paranoid type. [FBI 62-109060 Not Rec. 5.5.64] A daughter of George DeMohrenschildt married the son of a Vice President of Lockheed Aircraft. Lockheed, like General Dynamics, employed former Nazi scientists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I just came across a reference here http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...mp;relPageId=12that says Jeanne deMohrenschildt's first husband, Robert LeGon, was a mental patient at Camarillo State Hospital in 1960. At that time Jeanne's daughter went to live with Jeanne's brother, Sergei Fomenko, who was a nuclear physicist who worked with Robert Oppenheimer. Also here: http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=248681 http://www.ajweberman.com/nodules2/nodulec10.htm JEANNE FOMENKO LE GON In early 1957 George DeMohrenschildt and Jeanne Fomenko Le Gon, whose father had owned the Chinese National Railroad in pre-Communist China, ran off to Mexico together. The husband of Jeanne Fomenko Le Gon, Robert LeGon, went to the FBI, and asked the Bureau to open an Internal Security investigation on George DeMohrenschildt. Robert Le Gon was interviewed by FBI S.A. Hosty. James Hosty commented: "I was the second agent. It was actually Ed Kirkenthal who did the investigation. He would have written it up." [WCD 533 p69] The FBI Report concerning Robert Le Gon's complaint contained a deleted paragraph followed by the words "(The Dallas County District Attorney is Henry Wade, from Special Agent of the FBI." [Ltr. To Bureau 2.1.57 From SAC Dallas (105-632)]The interview with Robert Le Gon determined that another brother of Jeanne LeGon, Sergei Fomenko, worked with Robert Oppenheimer on the Manhattan Project developing the A-Bomb. The FBI had suspected that George DeMohrenschildt had been collecting data regarding the operation of a uranium plant. [WCD 532] On August 8, 1960, Robert Le Gon was officially committed to the Camillo [sic] State Mental Hospital and was diagnosed as schizophrenic reaction, paranoid type. [FBI 62-109060 Not Rec. 5.5.64] A daughter of George DeMohrenschildt married the son of a Vice President of Lockheed Aircraft. Lockheed, like General Dynamics, employed former Nazi scientists. Linda, I would attest that even more significant and least understood is DeMohrenschildt's wife from Philadelphia, Dr. D. D. Sharples, whose father owned Colorado oil wells, and is still alive and a Trustee of Temple Univeristy, home of Joan Mellen and the Man on the Motorcycle in MC. BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda Minor Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Linda, I would attest that even more significant and least understood is DeMohrenschildt's wife from Philadelphia, Dr. D. D. Sharples, whose father owned Colorado oil wells, and is still alive and a Trustee of Temple Univeristy, home of Joan Mellen and the Man on the Motorcycle in MC. BK Possibly so, but Sharples probably had nothing to do with Camarillo or the Oxnard phone call. What is intringuing about the Colorado oil wells, though, was that DeMohrenschildt was apparently working there during the time he was a partner of Edward G. Hooker, his brother Dimitry's wife's son. Hooker had been the man who introduced George to Lynn Sharples, who later became a doctor. All that happened before he met the love of his life, Jeanne LeGon, whose husband Robert lived in California with their daughter Christiana until he was sent off to the mental ward in Camarillo. I wonder if there was someone there trying to find out nuclear secrets from him. I seem to recall Jeanne's brother Sergei Fomenko was also involved in atomic research in California, working for Howard Hughes and Linnet Company of Beverly Hills; then Ramo-Wooldridge in Los Angeles; then North American Aviation. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=484769 http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=350065 http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...mp;relPageId=10 The mention of Richard Sorge's name in connection with that of LeGon's daughter was a matter that seemed to fascinate Mary Ferrell who followed it in her chronologies: http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=484603 http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=484583 http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=484594 Incidentally, more information about Hooker's relationship to George H.W. Bush appears in Russ Baker's book, Family of Secrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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