Shanet Clark

Thanks Robert

I suspected as much; a file on JFK '63...........

thanks also for reminding me about the forged State Department

cables implicating Kennedy in the Diem coup/murder.

The DESTRUCTION of these two documents in Hunt's safe,

the forged DIEM cables

and a JFK assassination intelligence file

were central to the EARLIEST cover up and criminal conspiracy within the White House.

....................

Nixon paid off Hunt to keep quiet and this is why.........

(((If I remember correctly Hunt couldn't even get his own children to testify

that he was in Washington when Kennedy was shot, even after he put them on

the stand to do so)))

What was in Hunt's safe?

John Dean, the White House counsel, gave the contents to

Pat Gray, the FBI Director, who destroyed the notebooks

and other items.........

What was in Hunt's Nixon White House safe?

A good thread.

J Evetts Haley's A TEXAN LOOKS AT LYNDON

was in my library years ago. Cliff Carter and Mac Wallace

do appear to be politically connected serial killers on the Texas scene

during the Lyndon Johnson heydey.............

John Douglas Kinser's killing and outcome is entirely enlightening, judicially.

This case directs critical thinking and resists patriotic nostrums.

I know that there's a widespread perception that some Rockefellers (David? Nelson? Other(s)?) are culpable in President Kennedy's murder, and other evil-doings. Yet I haven't seen a thread about them.

Is that because of:

-Fear?

-The fact that it's hard to get specifics on the Ruling Elite?

-Lack of source material to cite?

-The inevitable result of a mysterious two day forum outage?

-All of the above?

-Other?

Or do people think it only went as high as Tx oil millionairs, CIA, LBJ--therefore the Rockefellers had nothing to do with it?

The use of false papers, uniforms, rifle snipers in urban areas, mis-direction

and a politically charged patsy all point to Latin American inputs, and of course

Nelson Rockefeller was Eisenhower's US liasson for all things south of the border..........

John,

Let's not forget that in 1969, Fred Korth's daughter Verita, supposedly killed herself with a 20 gauge shotgun. Same sort of weapon involved with the Hale death and also the weapon of choice for George De Mohrenschildt.

I think it is worth mentioning that as a mode of taking one's life, woman rarely resort to such violent measures. It would be interesting to get some statistics regarding that.

FWIW.

James

What are the chances that both Connally and Korth were Secretaries of the Navy, and each had daughters that committed suicide with a 20 gauge....

Correct me if I'm wrong, but...

....strange, very strange...

(Antti)

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Great thread / co incidence or conspiracy ?

Korth and Connolly both suffered a very serious intimidation over

the facts of Dallas and GENERAL DYNAMICS is in the middle of it ??????

So this version would indicate that there are no missing frames,

only a smooth frame to frame rate for the

GG300 limousine through the ambuscade according to Nix.

Is that right?

I have always been interested in the black triangle superimposed over Kennedy's Right Eye. (photo F1)

Looks like a fairly crude cover up of a frontal entry wound from the direction of the old Grassy Knoll.......

P.S. I do know how to spell "dissipate", just that the brain and fingers continue to have difficulty communicating at times, and the soul could care less.

Careful Thomas. When someone is intellectually bankrupt on a subject they will hunt for spelling errors in posts and crow about them. It's all they have

But my soul could care less too.

Myra

I am stilling laughing about the member who told me to

"wallow in my igonrance"

Style counts............

Very strange.

This is obviously a sliming maneuver to lower Simkin's reputation.

In fact, the entire McAdams website appeared to me to be a CIA mouthpiece,

so I joined the enlightened critical thinking alternative here at the ED FORUM.

John, Andy and I are warmly slandered (photos and all) as "arch Zionists" now on a website

run by a Nazi that we pushed off of the FORUM.

Everyone is trying to figure out who the "respected member" is, but it is definitely not me........

...............If John Simkin is CIA,

then I work the counter at Negroponte's ........

A fact - this looks like a green roll of heavy plastic bags.

WINSTON WOLF

The much discussed gripping of the throat wound by the President, as seen in Zapruder

is here displayed thru the windshield of ALTGENS.

JFK is probably being shot in the back at this time.

As far as the participant witnesses responding to the shots:

The Dal Tex building and the FIRE ESCAPE were probably the source of these middle shots;

i.e., low and directly to the rear of the limousine, not up and to the right in the hardwood canopy.

[quote name='Mark Valenti' date

Mark, Lee and Robin

Good evidentiary thread..........this photo is early in the ambush, about the time

JFK was hit in the throat, but well before the fatal shot (shots).

Perhaps the Secret Service Agent in ALTGENS is looking back at

RIP ROBERTSON and LEE HARVEY OSWALD standing around at the slow curve...........

FEMA couldn't round up a hand of bridge.

To be perfectly frank, it looks like a roll of heavy plastic bags.

hmmmm

This is a pretty extreme blow up of Zapruder, it may be an "artifact"

or a result of the magnification.........

Jim,

Here's a link to a previous thread on Dinkins:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...opic=7078&h

It should be noted that according to available documents, Dinkins never claimed to have learned of the planned assassination through intercepted messages. He said he arrived at the theory that JFK would be assassinated by studying "The Stars and Stripes" and other newspapers.

Twyman's book Bloody Treason includes a letter that Dinkin's mother wrote to RFK about Dinkin being held as "a psychiatric case," in which she says that Dinkin "knows through his semantic study (of the newspapers) how the assassination was planned" (p. 529).

Twyman concludes that we don't know for certain how Dinkin got the information that led to his prediction of the assassination, but that the study of the newspapers may be a cover story that he was forced to learn while being held by the Army as a psychiatric case. Also, if he had revealed secret information obtained from his code breaking, he would be confessing to violation of his secret clearance and could face possible imprisonment. In short, Dinkin said what he had to to get out of the psychiatric ward and the Army (p. 531).

Twyman also says that he heard that "Dinkin was still alive, living in some sort of rest home and only available through a third party" (p. 543).

Ron

There is another thread on Dinkin way back in the FORUM backlog.

The OAS connection and NSA aspects of this case are compelling to Jim Root and I, evidently.

It is because I am dumping on the 1963 joint chiefs, likely as not.

And indicting Treasury Secretary Clarence Douglas Dillon,

they hate that stuff, too, Jack............

Oswald didn't have a holster when he was apprehended, did he?

I thought he had the pistol in his pocket, not holstered........

Fermin had advance knowledge of the assassination, evidently.

He resembles Barack Obama...............

James-

That is weird. How could someone in China not get to another posting in China because

the Russians withheld a visa.........

E. Howard Hunt and J. Walton Moore do seem to be contemporaries, if not colleagues.

"C"

dit

Mr. Davis was Calvin Davis a polygraph examiner.

GPFLOOR was assigned on the 27th of November, 1963.

James

Its interesting that the only two GP crypts are Oswald and Kennedy,

GP / FLOOR

and

GP / IDEAL

--------------also the recent thread about the 5412 committee had important crypts

RU/EPIA

RU/MSMA

RU/EPCR

RU/EPDA

RU/EPIC (CIA)

RU/EKPA (joint chiefs of staff)

for top secret 5412 and executive action limited release memos

between M. BUNDY FITZGERALD TAYLOR HELMS and MCCONE

Thats not the way most people read it.

It looks like he PITZER did have film capacity, camera experience

or actual copies of the JFK BETHESDA autopsy films.

Clearly he was murdered in his own office with the gun he signed out.

And people walked on the evidence before the authorities arrived.

Good stuff

Armstrong's book looks pretty strong here.

It is interesting that Tracy Barnes is mentioned as CIA chief of domestic operations.

I have read where E Howard HUNT was chief of domestic CIA operations but kept

his office down in MEXICO CITY which is actually the CIA base which had texas in its orbit

(since the CIA couldn't legally operate domestically)

Anyway the letter about the photograph of the Dallas CIA checker who knew DEMORENSCHILDT

is creepy, and J. Walton Moore probably knew a great deal about the operational and cover up

aspects of the Dallas November action on the president.......

In 1949 McCloy returned to Germany as American High Commissioner. He commuted the death sentences of a number of nazi war criminals..............

MCLOY JOHN J

Now this is the kind of thread I like.

Lt Colonel Whitmeyer, Taylor and McCloy are the moderates in this insane

Cold War period, LEMNITZER, ROBERT ANDERSON, and ED WALKER are the

militant rightists and all together they can use the murky COLD WAR

COUNTER INTELLIGENCE SYSTEM to do their dirty work. Helms Hoover and

Johnson just had to clean up and not ask too many questions.

This military core explains why JM WAVE CIA STATION MIAMI 1963

sent Bill Plumlee, Colonel Buck and others as a small squad of

assassination "abort" tasked covert operations --- to distance themselves

in this long historical game of finding blame and publicizing just claims....

CIA and Dave Morales, his team, were tactically brought in with many others

with organized crime, corporate, cuban and paramilitary experience,

but the impetus, believe me, was the military classified findings of the

chiefs of staff, taylor and lemnitzer, who immediately engaged McCloy.

(on the other side of the equation, anything that connected OSWALD or any

of the other suspicious individuals around the story (DEMORENSCHILDT,

MARINA, DAVID FERRIE)

to the U2 / Nosenko counterintelligence activities was, like JIM ROOT points out

total incriminating political and historical dynamite,

like the Oswald jailhouse phone call to John Hurt

a player on the NSA ASIA team circa 1940-1960

Braking, stopping, halting in the kill zone..........this is

just more evidence of something sponsored "legally"

DeGaulle's driver saved his life in a very similar attack

through sheer speed and acceleration, this 1960

assassination attempt is recreated in the opening

scenes of "Day of the Jackal"

if only Kennedy's team had roared through the underpass at the

first sound of gunshots.............