Robert Harris

For years, WC critics have doubted the legitimacy of CE-399. Not only does its relatively undamaged condition suggest that it wounded no-one, but when it was analyzed microscopically, there was not a trace of human blood or tissue. This video follows up on the excellent work by Dr. Gary Aguilar and Josiah Thompson, who confirmed that the FBI lied to the WC, trying to convince them that some of the men who originally handled the stretcher bullet, confirmed that it was similar to CE-399. John Hunt then discovered that the initials written on the stretcher bullet by FBI agent Elmer Todd, were nowhere to be seen on CE-399. In this video, I address the question of what actually happened to the real bullet that was embedded in Governor Connally's thigh. As it turned out, the Parkland staff did not leave such enormously important evidence laying around on a stretcher as the FBI claimed. When it fell from the Governor's thigh, it was immediately retrieved by a nurse who passed it on to an officer of the Texas Rangers, who then delivered it to the Dallas police dept. Corroboration for this bullet comes from Governor Connally himself, Dallas District Attorney Wade, Connally aide Bill Stinson, and officer Bobby Nolan whom I interview in the video. It also comes from the FBI, who altered the evidence envelope that held the bullet, and forged the name of nurse Audrey Bell, to make it appear that the envelope held the fragments from Connally's wrist, instead of the bullet from his leg. This is the Quicktime version, from my website: http://jfkhistory.com/ce399f/ce399f.mov And these are at Youtube, broken into two parts: Be sure to also read Aguilar and Thompson's article here: http://www.history-matters.com/essays/fram...MoreMagical.htm And John Hunt's article here: http://www.jfklancer.com/hunt/phantom.htm

Mike Williams is a fanatical, lone nutter who pretended to be a conspiracy supporter for years, until he was forced to come out of the closet and admit his agenda. At the jfkassassinationforum.com he follows me around from thread to thread, attacking anything and everything I say and apparently intends to do the same thing in this forum. I invite interested lurkers to weight his "analysis" against mine and make their own call. Bob

Well, it's an interesting thought. And there is quite a tale to be told about UM and his dark complected buddy. But, I can't help but notice that these reactions began at almost the exact instant that the limo pulled in front of the Daltex building. Bob

Thanks Walt. When I look at this stuff, I pay no attention to who it supports or contradicts. I just do the best I can to figure out what happened. Actually, I don't think the Zfilm was tampered with, or at least I don't until I see stronger evidence than I have so far. I didn't mean to give the impression that I did. I think the coverup was separate from the crime itself - umm.. mostly anyway. I think most people in government honestly believed they were doing the right thing by covering up conspiracy leads, which they believed, would lead to Castro and WW3. Hoover is a different story, and he was the one who was phoning people in the DOJ and the cabinet, telling them that the public must be convinced that there was no conspiracy. Hoover was tight with the mob and definitely in their pocket. I think he knew good and well, who was behind the assassination, and probably had foreknowledge. Of course, the FBI was responsible for 99% of the investigation and they did things to coverup the conspiracy, which were just criminal. Did you see the section on ce399 yet? Oswald is a very tricky issue. I discuss the question of his guilt toward the end of the presentation, but I honestly am not sure whether he was a good guy or a bad buy. Bob

John, do you really think JFK could have see the UM at that point? Witt didn't raise it higher into the air until JFK was much closer to him. RH

John, I went back to the video (Quicktime version) and single-stepped through that section. It appears to me, that the apparent fist is visible in several frames when the hand was well above the level of the chrome. I think the key here, in terms of understanding what was going on, is to sit down and try to duplicate JFK's reactions. Start to wave as he did, and then snap your hand back within half a second, simultaneous with making a fist (or whatever one considers it to be). Almost instantly, after that, he falls to his left and then straightens up again.

Patrick, I fully agree with you, that Oswald (or anyone else in the alleged sniper's nest) did not fire a shot around 160. Therefore, if such a shot was fired, it had to have come from elsewhere. Recently, I put together a presentation which analyzes the shooting from start to finish. It addresses the early shots and their source. I you get a chance, I hope you can take a look at it. The complete presentation in Quicktime format can be seen here: http://www.jfkhistory.com/ALL/ALL.mov It is also on Youtube, broken into parts, in order to stay within their time limits. This is part 1. Thanks for the excellent analysis. Robert Harris

Thank you Lee. I think JFK's reactions in the Towner film require an explanation. They began just as the limousine pulled in front of the Daltex building and they are unlike anything we have ever seen him do prior to that point, in that or any other motorcade. A shot that early has always been dismissed because witnesses never claimed to have heard anything then, but even the WC has admitted that most witnesses stated that they only heard one early shot, prior to closely bunched shots at the very end. That would seem to suggest that this was not the only shot that went unheard. "..a substantial majority of the witnesses stated that the shots were not evenly spaced. Most witnesses recalled that the second and third shots were bunched together." Anyway, I really appreciate your willingness to look at this with an open mind. I look forward to any other thoughts you might have on the issues raised in my video. Robert Harris

Actually, I uploaded a photo on the same day that I posted here, which shows up in my profile but not in my messages. Kathy Beckett promptly emailed me about it and I replied, explaining the problem. If there is something simple I can do to fix this, please let me know. Robert Harris Ok, I think I get it now. I uploaded a photo to my profile but I think it's a different picture that appears in messages. I'll try to get that fixed no later than yesterday.

Actually, I uploaded a photo on the same day that I posted here, which shows up in my profile but not in my messages. Kathy Beckett promptly emailed me about it and I replied, explaining the problem. If there is something simple I can do to fix this, please let me know. Robert Harris

Dr. Fetzer, I posted about Judyth nine years ago, and my total postings on this subject over the years can probably be counted on one hand. I don't spend much time on the topic because it doesn't even make the bottom of my priority list. Judyth said exactly what I claimed. There is no confusion here on my part. "Anita" is the ONLY woman she even mentioned in regard to this issue. And she did say the woman double dated with her and Oswald. She admits that she told me about Anita, but she hasn't even come up with an alternative explanation for why she mentioned her. If "anita" could corroborate her story in some other way, then surely you and Mr. Platzman have tracked her down by now. I mean, if she has a postcard, she at least has a maiden name which should allow you to track down her employment records. And surely, she told all of you about Anita a long time ago. What did you/they find out?? Or is it possible, that Anita only gets evoked as a co-worker whenever I show up?? And I noticed that she does not deny having told me about how sorry she felt for Marina, being left at home alone every night. Has she explained to you, why her story morphed into a daylight affair, after I corrected her? And if Mary La Fontaine had been wrong, then Judyth could have simply said so. But instead, she completely changed her story about the affair, from that day forward. Dr. Fetzer, I have no dogs in this race. I have no money from books, movies, TV, hanging in the balance. And we all know, that if I had posted a message supporting Judyth, you would see me as God's gift to the research community, rather than as the human sewage you portray. If you were right about Judyth and honestly believed you were right, you wouldn't need to resort to this "take no prisoners" strategy. You could discuss the issues rationally and objectively, instead of sounding like a ranting madman. I notice that you treat all skeptics, pretty much the same way. I doubt that you care, Dr. Fetzer, but when you promote things like this and your luny Zapruder film theories, you do far more damage to our credibility than the Posners and Bugliosi's of the world. Whenever the nutters start accusing us of being lunatics, they always point to one guy as the ultimate example. Now, who do you suppose that is? Robert Harris

Dr. Fetzer, I am disappointed to learn that you are exactly what I expected after watching one or two of your presentations, on the Zapruder film, which I hope we can discuss in detail in another thread. Judy didn't just handle a "situation" poorly. She lied to me and then significantly changed her story after she learned that her early versions didn't hold up. And she was either suffering from severe paranoia when she made up some very silly stories, or she thought I was. After all these years, neither you nor anyone else has been able to confirm her story about an affair with Oswald, for the very obvious reason that it never happened. As for your smear against the La Fontaines, I noticed that you support that argument every bit as well as you do this fairy tale about Judyth. The La Fontaines made some enormously important contributions, including their debunking of the "three tramps" myth, and their absolute proof that Oswald had been an informant for the FBI. Their analysis was solidly supported by a great deal of facts and documented evidence. If you could show us 1/10th that much evidence in support of Judyth, there would be nothing left to argue about. Robert Harris

Dr. Fetzer, Judyth contacted me in 1999, long before she was on television and even before most researchers had heard of her. After a number of email exchanges, in which she related her story (or that version of it), we spoke on the phone for about three hours. At that time, she talked about double dating with Oswald, with an old high school friend and her fiance, who married her in August of that year. My response was, that this would be a great way to corroborate her affair with Oswald. What were their names? At that point, she was silent for a moment and then said she didn't remember his surname, nor did she have any interest in tracking down the girl's parents, nor did she want to look at the wedding announcements in the newspaper for August, the month in which she said they got married. This is from an email exchange, she and I had in 2002 1. You said you and LHO double dated with a friend from school and her fiance, and that you saw her wedding announcement in the paper in August of 1963. It should be fairly easy to find that woman, through a yearbook or the newspaper. Have you done so and do you have her name yet? 2. You said people at Alba's garage saw you with Oswald there. Have you figured out yet, which of them saw you? Did Mr. Alba himself, see the two of you? If not, then who did? 3. You said that you and LHO were inseparable during your affair and that you felt sorry for Marina because she was left alone at night, on numerous occasions. But, Marina was asked, by the La Fontaines (in a totally different context), if Lee was frequently gone at night, or even late coming home. She replied that he was always there on time, and never missing. (in New Orleans, only) Was Marina wrong about that? If not, then when did you and LHO have the opportunity to see each other? And why did you tell me that you monopolized his (non-working) hours? As I said before, I still hope/wish your story is true. But if it is not, then you are doing a grave disservice to this country and to history. It is already almost impossible for serious researchers to get anything published on the JFK case, which because of all the red herrings and bogus theories, many editors equate with UFO tales and Big Foot sightings. She replied: I did respond. I sent an answer through another person because I do not have an email address for you. PLEASE simply send me an email with a current address. If this email arrives, I made one error; where it says "Anita" it should say "Annette" and is not to be confused with "Anna," as these people are two different witnesses. I am still recovering from an auto crash and do not look at the ne3wsgroup every day by any means. Of course, she never could come up with the name of her "best friend" in high school, who was replaced by Anna Lewis as the woman, who with her husband, David Lewis, was supposed to have double dated with them. David Lewis, is the same guy who had a lot of stories to tell about Oswald, but never once, mentioned any double dates, or any kind of social activities with Oswald. In her private emails to me, she totally changed her story about feeling sorry for poor lonely Marina, which she mentioned several times in our phone conversation. In version II, their flaming romance was carried on during daylight hours only, apparently sneaking out from work. And of course, she never could come up with anyone who saw her at Alba's garage. And one more thing. Judyth had always spent a lot of time, following the JFK usenet groups. In 2005, I wrote a piece on Oswald and his obsession with "I led three lives", and Herbert Philbrick's influence on him. When did she first start talking about Philbrick and IL3L's? Judyth also told me during that phone conversation that some sinister character stole the hard drive from her computer. And she told me a story about being on a plane in which they had to make an emergency landing because a passenger had a heart attack. Sitting next to her, was a men-in-black type who said, "If we can do that to him, we can do that to you.". FWIW, I have no respect at all, for most of the people who have been actively attacking her, in alt.assassination.jfk. And I have no doubt at all, that David Ferrie was involved in setting up the assassination. But Judyth is totally phony. Maybe she doesn't even realize what she is doing. My sense was, when I spoke with her, that this woman has some very serious mental and emotional issues. But her story is just not true. I wish it was, because a legitimate Oswald girlfriend might have given us a lot of important answers. Robert Harris

Although I have been a member of this forum for several years, I have mostly been a lurker, soaking up a lot of good information from some of you, who are obviously, extremely knowledgeable. My postings have been mostly, to "lone nut" groups, whom I have always believed, most needed to get the word But I believe there are important aspects of the shooting in Dealey Plaza which have been overlooked by both sides of the debate, and I would like to share them with you. In this video presentation, I look at the shooting from start to finish. Much of this will contradict what you have heard in the past. I only ask that you be objective and weigh the evidence, carefully. The complete presentation in Quicktime format, can be seen here: http://www.jfkhistory.com/ALL/ALL.mov It is also on Youtube, broken into parts, in order to stay within their time limits. This is part 1. Robert Harris

I am currently employed as an investigator for a large corporation in Florida that does background and employment checks. Prior to that I spent almost twenty years in the computer business and owned my own store in New Mexico, for about twelve years. My interest in the JFK case has existed since 1963, but it was in 1995 that I decided to try to find an accurate and objective methodology to resolve the conspiracy question once and for all. The results of my study are detailed in the lead article at my website, which has been endorsed and recommended by the History Channel. http://www.jfkhistory.com/