Myra Bronstein

6 minutes ago, Andrej Stancak said:

Bob Dylan's song is very moving and brilliant. Thanks for posting. I hope to read the transcript of the lyrics when available.

Was just searching for the lyrics:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/genius.com/amp/Bob-dylan-murder-most-foul-lyrics

Dylan's comments upon releasing the song are also noteworthy:

"Greetings to my fans and followers with gratitude for all your support and loyalty across the years.
This is an unreleased song we recorded a while back that you might find interesting.
Stay safe, stay observant and may God be with you."

Stay observant.

The lyrics are incredible. Dylan knows the truth and he states it plainly. Over and over. Furthermore he is well informed on the topic. He is not a dilettante and this is not a superficial song. It's breathtaking. That the greatest US songwriter spoke out on this crime is also breathtaking. Especially given that he has been reluctant in the past to use his songs for political means and be an activist artist. Can't get any more candid and political than this song. It's remarkable. I'm so proud of him.

Just finished watching A Coup in Camelot. It covered some important topics not covered or emphasized elsewhere: the secret service security stripping, body manipulation, autopsy fakery and the abrupt shift from JFK's strategy of peace to all out war within days.  

The secret service complicity in particular is fresh ground.  And you did a great job with your commentary Vince.  Thanks for making people aware.

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Looking forward to seeing this.  Thanks Vince.

Also, could we please clarify which memo this segment comes from?

https://2718f7c0-a-86436885-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/patspeer.com/www2/rare-files/feinman-cbs-documents/Feinmansalanttomc.jpg?attachauth=ANoY7cqGDo15zL5hr2FxhJAqqsVfZYKE21RyJNA2c_p7bm6fI3L5zGa4a6QqaH14_dcJWR3NmRCGMuQ5jAG5vx-dBHx8M_uGPvvf9l-xEdeNuH_M_Gs_QkBzIRwMtWPNEMizO-jtBl-kMQfxKLqu76WVbO5fWLqHcdmeLKdW6_hyGWnTjsJfhKjprLGoNmTyvHJeIAB6UOTqDiYdiNjK0sisdkSnyjAsblShlJnsbHBR2VH04UuBnKxGemM2nlEJ5dRDByR9o0o8&attredirects=0

Is that entire document available?

Does anyone have a copy of this document?

"A handwritten note on CBS stationery from Ellen McCloy to Les Midgley, producer of the series, gives the reader a feel for the close relationships between the McCloys and the CBS bunch. The memo reads: "One comment that Dad [emphasis added] made after reading the `rough script' Mr. Salant wanted me to pass on to you. It concerned a sentence (--or two--) that appears on the top of page 5C. . . . Dad said: 1) he had no recollection of the President (LBJ) asking or urging the members of the Warren Commission to act `with speed.' 2) The phrase `In less than a year' again implies that the commission might have acted in haste. Dad suggests that you might say `after 8 1/2 months. . . . ' --Ellen"

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v1n2/mediaassassination.html

I looked for it at Pat Speer's site (http://www.patspeer.com/rare-files/feinman-cbs-documents)

but only see a different hand written CBS document from Ellen McCloy.

Thank you.

DJ: ...As I further expanded on this, what is really incredible about this ransacking of their own internal ethics, is that no one screamed, no one quit, no one resigned in disgust. This is the murder of President Kennedy.

​And the one guy who did resist--Roger Feinman-- got terminated.

​If anything shows the social and political problems of a corporate media structure, this does.

PS Thanks to Pat Speer, the article now has a document addendum to it, made up of some of the actual memos Pat got screen captures of.

Thank you for making those CBS memos available Pat, and calling attention to them Jim!

Looking back at Rather's sign off on the 1993 show, he actually then says that the WR conclusions have passed the test of time.

Now recall, this is still in the wake of Stone's JFK, when the percentage of disbelief was way up there. So what the heck is he talking about?

But then it gets worse. He then says that there is no proof and little evidence of any conspiracy in the case.

Well, when you are making millions of dollars a year, you will say those kinds of things. And your nose will not grow.

The capper is when he says that the physical evidence and the facts point to one man, Oswald. And anything else is nothing but speculation based on imagination ruled by those who hear things that are not there and see things that are not visible.

OK Dan, now go back and reinsert the stuff you cut out, like Wyckoff telling you that there were really four jiggles in the Z film and not three. And then have him explain the fourth one by the sound of a siren. Then ask him this question:

"But sir, what siren could you hear on the Zapruder film? Its silent."

An honest answer would be: "But that is what DIck Salant wanted me to say when I told him Alvarez was wrong."

As Charles Burris said, he's "Rather biased."

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/rather-biased/

"Abstract

The research problem was to take a major political event in American history---the John F. Kennedy assassination---explore major media coverage of the event, and then examine media construction of social issues;The assassination of President John F. Kennedy has two official versions in our nation's history. The Warren-Ford-Dulles Commission came to the conclusion that, without assistance, a man in a building shot a man in a car. In 1979, pursuant to post-Watergate cynicism in government, the House Select Committee on Assassinations concluded there was a conspiracy and a second gunman fired from a different direction. However, high school textbooks have reified only the first version of history---that of a single lone assassin;A content analysis of CBS and Time-Life coverage is made using Lasswell's methodology of surveillance, correlation, and transmission.

CBS produced the most television assassination documentaries and Time-Life owned the Zapruder film which was crucial evidence. Of the four perspectives on media coverage (the Fourth Estate, Mirror Approach, Marketing, and Hegemony), only hegemony fits the consistent pattern of the media coverage;Berger and Luckman's (1967) social construction of reality involves reification, legitimization, and institutionalization. As Kuhn (1962) notes in The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, normally when the number of anomalies to a theory becomes too great, we are forced to switch to another explanation. However, this did not happen with the Kennedy Assassination. We must ask why. The Fourth Estate would predict the media pursue the story with a check and a balance of government by responsible investigative reporting, as the Marketing Approach would give the consumers what they want. The Mirror Approach is where the media represents a neutral transmission of information while with Hegemony, the major media would dissipate the greatest possible doubt of a conspiracy in order to create the impression that the political structure was secure and legitimate to create an image of the stable institution of government. The study concludes that hegemony best explains media coverage of the event."

Recommended Citation

Ralston, Ross Frank, "The media and the Kennedy assassination: the social construction of reality " (1999). Retrospective Theses and Dissertations. Paper 12478.
http://lib.dr.iastate.edu/rtd/12478

http://lib.dr.iastate.edu/rtd/12478/

Hey, Jim, I noticed that you don't link or show many of the CBS memos uncovered by Feinman in your article. Do you have them? Roger put a power point presentation on his battle with CBS up on the internet at one point. I think around 2006. I screen-grabbed images of some of the memos. So they are fairly blurry. If nobody has the original memos, or even Feinman's images of the memos, I can put them up on my website, and you can link to them or use them however you wish.

Pat I just found your 50th Anniversary media Onslaught material:

http://www.patspeer.com/the-onslaught

You might want to point out, Jim, that Sevareid's rant was re-broadcast as part of CNN's Tom Hanks-produced, Vincent Bugliosi-fueled, program put together for the 50th anniversary, which was repeated if I recall six times in the weeks leading up to the 50th anniversary. I remember that you missed it when first broadcast. I'm not sure if it's available online. But just imagine the CBS special with Bugliosi hosting instead of Cronkite and you'll get the picture.

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Great post Pat. Thanks!

Thank you! Definitely looking forward to Part 2.

So... Does anyone know if Ron Pataky/Dr. A. Ron Pataky is still alive?

Does anyone know if Ron Pataky/Dr. A. Ron Pataky is still alive?

Looks like there's better info here:

http://www.conspiracy-cinema.com/2013/11/theweb.html

According to this Flynt's ad was on the back cover of his LA Free Press.

Apparently they found a proper patsy in Joseph Paul Franklin.

"Franklin & Flynt

Fast-forward to 1977. Joseph Paul Franklin, inspired by his white supramicist beliefs and what he believes to be "the will of God," begins his campaign of violence against minorities. On March 6, 1978, Larry Flynt was shot with a .44 caliber rifle in Lawrenceville, GA. Franklin would later confess to the crime, stating he did it because Flynt's Hustler had recently printed a pictorial featuring an interracial couple.

Is that really the case? Was there another reason to shoot Larry Flynt?

One possible reason emerges from a little-known incident in Flynt's history; one not talked about much by his supporters, his detractors, or in The People vs Larry Flynt. In December 1977, Flynt purchased the LA Free Press, an alternative California newspaper. Flynt wasted little time putting his own spin on the magazine but perhaps not in the way you might think:

The entire issue -- published two weeks before he was shot -- was dedicated to evidence that the CIA was behind the JFK assassination. On the back cover was Flynt's offer of $1 million dollars to anyone with new evidence in the case:

The ad and the offer would be reprinted in mainstream newspapers where Flynt had paid for advertisement.

The close timing between Flynt's sudden interest in conspiracy theories and his shooting lead many to question the motives. The observant among you will notice that Flynt was shot in Lawrenceville, GA, which was the home district of Congressman Larry McDonald, who was also head of the ultra-right wing John Birch Society. As we've seen in previous posts, the JBS is near the top of the list of suspects in the Kennedy assassination and has intelligence ties.

It bears noting that Flynt didn't learn his lesson. Conspiracy researcher Mae Brussell contacted Flynt in 1983 to inform him of the links between the recently-deceased Larry McDonald and his shooting. Flynt dove into Brussell's research with both feet and quickly started The Rebel, a conspiracy themed magazine featuring Brusell's seminal article, The Nazi Connections to the John F. Kennedy Assassination. Soon after the magazine's publication, Flynt found himself surrounded by a host of characters with intelligence ties: Watergate figure G. Gordon Liddy, intelligence agent and possible "Second Oswald" Gordon Novel, and OSS-man and mercenary Mitchell WerBell II. [Just to bring everything full circle: WerBell actually did run a well-known assassination school in southern Georgia and testified in the trial of the murder of producer Roy Radin, which Maury Terry alleges was committed by the same satanic cult behind the Son of Sam murders.] This tumultuous period in Flynt's life ended with him in a sanitarium, fighting for the company he had built himself. His interest in conspiracies ended after he re-emerged.

It was while Flynt was tucked away in an asylum that Franklin confessed to shooting him. Franklin was never a suspect, and the source of most of his 20+ body count is Franklin himself. While in prison he has busied himself confessing to all sorts of crimes, most of which he was never charged with because he was unable to demonstrate sufficient knowledge of the crime to convince authorities he was responsible.

Franklin was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic by Dr. Dorothy Lewis, who felt that he was unfit to stand trial. However little time has been spent investigating whether or not he actually committed these crimes or was simply taking the rap for someone else. For what it's worth, Don Black stated on his white supremacist website this week that he had met Franklin in the late-sixties/early-seventies and that the white supremacist groups (the KKK, the Nazi Party) disassociated themselves with him then because of his erratic behavior. Interesting tidbit: Black (also from Alabama) was part of Operation Red Dog, a plot to overthrow the island of Dominica and establish an all-white nation. I shouldn't even have to say this at this point, but Operation Red Dog had ties to American intelligence agencies and the mercenary circles that Mitch WerBell ran in.

Did Franklin really shoot Flynt? It's possible. The shooting was similar to the crimes Franklin was known to have committed. His motive is questionable (Flynt had published interracial couples before) and the timing of Flynt's JFK ad is too curious to immediately dismiss, especially given future events.

Franklin's reign of (alleged) terror ended in August, 1980. Just a few short months later, another aimless drifter who was a member of the American Nazi Party would rise to national attention after shooting a public figure: John Hinckley, Jr.

More on that later."

Thank you Myra, this is quite an interesting post, I find it just as interesting as recruiting G. Gordon Liddy, one of the men my father had a photograph of who also infiltrate Flynt's empire. I now wounder just what his role as Giddy, I mean Liddy was, after all, he is was smart enough not to say a word during Watergate, just what does he know about Kennedy? Even in the most strictest of well kept secrets, just what was his role? I knew my father stole and had all their photos for a reason. It was THIS reason my father turned on this country.

Thank you Scott. I'm just getting familiar with your father's story.

Looks like there's better info here:

http://www.conspiracy-cinema.com/2013/11/theweb.html

According to this Flynt's ad was on the back cover of his LA Free Press.

Apparently they found a proper patsy in Joseph Paul Franklin.

"Franklin & Flynt

Fast-forward to 1977. Joseph Paul Franklin, inspired by his white supramicist beliefs and what he believes to be "the will of God," begins his campaign of violence against minorities. On March 6, 1978, Larry Flynt was shot with a .44 caliber rifle in Lawrenceville, GA. Franklin would later confess to the crime, stating he did it because Flynt's Hustler had recently printed a pictorial featuring an interracial couple.

Is that really the case? Was there another reason to shoot Larry Flynt?

One possible reason emerges from a little-known incident in Flynt's history; one not talked about much by his supporters, his detractors, or in The People vs Larry Flynt. In December 1977, Flynt purchased the LA Free Press, an alternative California newspaper. Flynt wasted little time putting his own spin on the magazine but perhaps not in the way you might think:

FWIW it was O'Donnell who took charge in stealing the body from Parkland and Earl Rose.

That's noteworthy. I figured that was secret service.

It was Secret Service till the dispute became interminable, then O'Donnell angrily moved in and told Rose they were taking the body come hell or high water or something to that effect. I'm going by Manchester's lengthy account.

Thanks Ron.

FWIW it was O'Donnell who took charge in stealing the body from Parkland and Earl Rose.

That's noteworthy. I figured that was secret service.

I just ordered Joseph's book "INTO THE NIGHTMARE: MY SEARCH FOR THE KILLERS OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY AND OFFICER J. D. TIPPIT." Once I read it I can maybe shed some light on it. It is quite a startling claim. Maybe Joseph would be willing to come here and discuss it. Is the Ed forum accepting new members?

Joe is already a member.

Oh thanks Pat.

I just ordered Joseph's book "INTO THE NIGHTMARE: MY SEARCH FOR THE KILLERS OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY AND OFFICER J. D. TIPPIT." Once I read it I can maybe shed some light on it. It is quite a startling claim. Maybe Joseph would be willing to come here and discuss it. Is the Ed forum accepting new members?

I wondered why Hughes would hire Otash to bug Marilyn Monroe. Thanks for the info on that. I see your point. I always found her apparent suicide not believable, nor could I imagine RFK or Lawford actually killing her. If I understand it, your proposed theory is that the timing of her death suggests that someone knew about the altercation that day and used it as cover, hoping to send a message to the Kennedys, or even to pin her death on the Kennedy clan.

Exactly. I've long thought that the Kennedy enemies tried to frame them with the Monroe murder. Then when that failed they took the next step. Much like they later framed Teddy Kennedy with the Chappaquiddick arranged accident to neutralize him.

Does anyone know anything about this Fred Otash character?

Whatever his story is I don't think it's a coincidence that we're in the run up to a major JFK anniversary and this propaganda is launched at the public.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Otash

Thanks Douglas. I was really hoping for input from a trusted source.

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http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/docset/getList.do?docSetId=1370

Great idea. Thank you Douglas.

Actually, it's NOT a case of splitting hairs. It's a case of striving for accuracy.

This is still billed as the EDUCATION Forum, and not the Rumor, Speculation, and Assumption Forum.

Please EDUCATE yourself on the similarities and the differences of amphetamines and methamphetamines, and how each is/was used in a medical setting. I spent some time myself searching out the terms and the the similarities and differences, and I highly recommend you do the same.

Thank you Mark. I guess it's splitting hairs like distinguishing truth from fiction is splitting hairs.

I wondered why Hughes would hire Otash to bug Marilyn Monroe. Thanks for the info on that. I see your point. I always found her apparent suicide not believable, nor could I imagine RFK or Lawford actually killing her. If I understand it, your proposed theory is that the timing of her death suggests that someone knew about the altercation that day and used it as cover, hoping to send a message to the Kennedys, or even to pin her death on the Kennedy clan.

Exactly. I've long thought that the Kennedy enemies tried to frame them with the Monroe murder. Then when that failed they took the next step. Much like they later framed Teddy Kennedy with the Chappaquiddick arranged accident to neutralize him.

Does anyone know anything about this Fred Otash character?

Whatever his story is I don't think it's a coincidence that we're in the run up to a major JFK anniversary and this propaganda is launched at the public.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Otash

Thanks Douglas. I was really hoping for input from a trusted source.