Ed LeDoux

Scott, I apologize. Please continue. Ed

Thanks Kathy, I too thought that was Bush. Dead ringer! That is till you do a little digging and see who else is in the photo and the then work out the timing. Time was reached by consensus of statements of the photographer, an sun/shadow analysis, and by when the others in the photo could have been present. Plus calling and talking to Aubrey sealed the deal, impossible for this to be Bush. As I said we should focus on the things that prove definitively something, like the memo and phone calls. Wouldn't you agree these "myth" things are getting in the way of serious research. Thanks too for posting the "other' Bush photo. Ed

The timing still does not work for the other pic to be Bush. Its not him. Bush had to go collect Barbara who was still getting hair and nails done across the street. This was all covered in the Lancer thread. The timing doesn't work. The photo is not him. The memo and other aspects should be followed up on but these photos are useless at proving anything relating to Bush. Thanks, Ed

Seems the FBI in its report of 12/21 did ask him (Jackson) about Ruby. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=96522&relPageId=91 "He advised he has never know a person named LEE HARVEY OSWALD or JACK RUBY also known as JACK RUBENSTEIN. He said he has heard these names since the assassination..." This is an amazing thread BTW. Ed

I keep saying this but is anyone listening? I actually called and interviewed the Kiwanis VP who was there at the luncheon with Bush. Bush was not in Dallas. Bush was in Tyler. Bush left Tyler when he heard the news of JFK. The pics are not of Bush. The timing of the pics does not work for it to be Bush. http://www.jfklancerforum.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=3&topic_id=55442&mesg_id=55654&page= Put this to bed already, Get EDUCATED on this forum.

Another great find Tom. The Rick Caster interview of Warren Caster is revealing. Hope his noting of Oswald's presence at the gun showing wasn't value added, along with the mention to coworker that to see the motorcade better he should go to the sixth floor. Seemed sincere though. Glad Rick was able to question him, before he passed, as he should have been years ago... But yes Warren was ignored.

Ed, how much paperwork are we talking here? Greg I went over the documents and surmised it would take the DPD requests to FBI regarding the watch to be mislabeled. Also inclusive in this mislabeling would be: The airtels. Lab reports. Memos regarding lab work and testing. Reports by agents. Etc, A single piece of evidence can create a lot of paperwork, but from many sources. The documents say the watch was Lee's LeCoultre. I am trying to find the "mistake" but with no luck (if it was a mistake). David, the Ruby 'secret agent kit' was explained as a guy trying to get in good with the cops, ya know...sing like a canary. He was an informant. Or was trying to be. Ruby it seems was using the bugged briefcase, ring, and other spy items to gather information he passed on to the authorities. Lee's bracelet: Turned over to the FBI lab. Photographed and given a visual comparison. Q577 is the bracelet of Lee's. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=268744 A photo of the bracelet is listed as CE 383. http://www.history-matters.com/archive/contents/wc/contents_wh16.htm CE 383a Shows us the bracelet, the ring Q88 and what should be Lee's post office key. http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0500a.htm In the Dallas archives is a receipt. 09 05 019 Receipt 11/30/63 D. W. Reuben Original Signed 100002685 Release of ring and identification bracelet to the FBI. And 12 09 001 Photograph date unknown an unknown author Photographic Image: Size 8" X 10" Photographs of Marine ring and ID bracelet with inscription "Lee", negative number 91-001/151 http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/data.htm Oswald's stretchband bracelet --- Whaley noticed Oswald's shiny bracelet on his left wrist. He explained to the Warren Commission "I always notice watchbands, unusual watchbands, and identification bracelets like these, because I make them myself ... It was just a common stretchband identification bracelet. A lot of them are made of chain links and not stretchbands (Vol 2 pg 293). Stretchbands are unusual because there is very few of them". A photograph of Oswald taken shortly after his arrival at DPD headquarters shows a bracelet on his left wrist. This bracelet was removed from Oswald's left wrist at DPD headquarters and later photographed. "One I.D. stretch band with 'Lee' inscribed" is listed on the DPD property form (Dallas Archives --- Box 1, folder 8, item 1). http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/25th_Issue/facts.html Summing up the FBI tested a watch Lee was not wearing and failed to test a bracelet he definitely was wearing. Interesting to note the FBI separated out the bracelet and did not assign it a Q number sequential with the ring and watch...Q87 and Q88 Ed

That is great David. It could be a good reason the bracelet was not examined. Greg that would mean all this paper work specifically stating it was recovered from Lee at the time of his arrest is wrong, not just the one document. Possible not probable. Nice find on the Benrus values. Much to follow up here.

The infamous backyard photos depict a wrist watch wearing Lee. Marina stated he had a pocket watch. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=22810 She stated the wrist watch he had was broken so Lee bought a bracelet. Seeing how he had cut his left wrist in Russia attempting "suicide", I can see why Lee would wear something over that slight scar. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=22814 This Marina states was most likely before the move to Neely and bracelet was purchased while still at Elsbeth, and while Lee was working at JCS (Jaggars-Chiles-stovall). Der. 4/6/64 MARINA OSWALD was interviewed at her place of residence, 629 Belt Line Road, Richardson, Texas. She was questioned further concerning the silver-colored' bracelet, which LEE HARVEY OSWALD had given her following his return to Dallas, Texas, after his trip to Mexico. She said this bracelet was very similar to a bracelet which LEE HARVEY OSWALD wore. His bracelet had the name 'LEE' engraved upon it . She stated she believed OSWALD purchased his bracelet about the time they were residing on Elsbeth Street, or perhaps during the time they rented a place on Neely Street. She recalled OSWALD's watch had been in disrepair and, instead of having the watch fixed, he bought the bracelet and wore it in place of the watch. On a previous occasion, when OSWALD's watch was in disrepair, he had had it fixed at Leonard's Department Store in Fort Worth, Texas. This was at a time when they resided in Fort Worth. She believes OSWALD was working at Jaggars-Chiles-stovall at the time he purchased the bracelet. MARINA said she does not know where OSWALD purchased the bracelet which he presented her. OSWALD did not say he had purchased it In Mexico. He presented it to her within the first hour after they were reunited following his trip to Mexico. She recalls seeing a bracelet very such like the bracelet which he gave her in the Woolworth Store at New Orleans. She did not like the bracelet and never wore it. COMMISSION EXHIBIT NO. 1844 The Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall employment was from October 12th, 1962 - April 6th. http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh23/pdf/WH23_CE_1886.pdf Q. Would you tell me what physical markings you recall on the body of Lee Harvey Oswald, I mean any scars, anything that you could describe, any marks on his body? A. He had a thin scar on his wrist. Q. Which wrist? A. The one he wore his watch on, I don't know whether it was right or left. Q. The one he wore his watch on? A. Yes. Q. Where was the scar? A. On the inside. Q. You pointed to the inside of your left wrist. A. Yes. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo4/jfk12/marinade.htm#marsep About the Watch, FBI item Q87 http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=996758 But item Q87 is a LeCoultre wrist watch. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=996757 FBI tested this watch, Q87, for residue. I am assuming it was tested for gunshot residue. What other residue would the FBI be interested in. If Lee had ever fired a weapon while wearing this watch it did not show up during the testing. "No significant residues" on watch Q87 LeCoultre wrist watch or the ring Q88. This request to test these item came at the behest of the DPD. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=95643&relPageId=179 & http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=996757 I guess the DPD was going off those Backyard photos and needed a wristwatch. This FBI document notifying the lab of the items for testing and what to test for leaves me wondering who they had in custody that was wearing a LeCoultre wrist watch! It raises a lot of questions if you read the next page... page1: http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=754547 page2: http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=62255&relPageId=91 A ring was worn by LHO on 11/22 and a ring was also tested for 'any residue'. One nickel colored with three clear stones. The ring Q88, is denoted as a MANS RING, but the watch makes no mention of gender. The watch and ring were examined for hidden compartments. None were found. Jack Ruby owned a LeCoultre, his was a diamond and 14k gold wrist watch. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=328652 Ruby did have a watch with a special 'compartment', his held a microphone, per Garrison investigation. There is the reference to a Benrus wrist watch serial #476343 http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=734079 FBI 105-82555 Oswald HQ File, Section 229 Number 286 This should be the wrist watch of Lee's that was in disrepair. Now what about the LeCoultre? Why test this watch and not the Benrus for residue? Why not test the bracelet for residues? As noted, Lee had an Elgin 17 jewel pocket watch with a second hand dial. http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/NA014559/pin-and-watch-belonging-to-lee-harvey The city of Irving has in its collections a silver, 17 jewel, Waltham pocket watch, 1903. http://cityofirving.org/library/archives/accessions/mvf-5-10/7-11.asp Item(s): Waltham pocket watch, 1903; photocopy of a Lee Harvey Oswald's job application at Padgett Printing Corporation, 1963; photocopy of Lee Harvey Oswald’s murder affidavit, November 22, 1963. Is this watch being attributed to Lee? Irving also has something special in its collections...The Paine House. http://jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2009/09/irving-buys-paine-house-made-infamous.html Ed

Kim Albert Peacock Kim Albert Peacock Greenwood, IN Age: 46 Previous addresses: 1 Address In Greenwood 1 Address In Union City 1 Address In Oakton 2 Addresses In Arlington 2 Addresses In Alexandria 1 Address In Durham Relatives: Janis B Peacock and Von E Peacock ______________________________________ Von E Peacock Addresses: 5 Addresses in San Antonio TX 1 Address in New Bedford MA Relatives: Ruth Peacock Delores Peacock Debbie Peacock ______________________________________ Janis Peacock Addresses: 5 Addresses in Nevada City CA 4 Addresses in Orlando FL Relatives: Virgil Peacock Kim Peacock Jean Peacock Elizabeth Peacock Julian Peacock Bonnie Peacock Brittney Copelan Alison Cardoso Cara Bright _______________________________________ Ed

Hey thanks Jim. Coming from you that is a huge compliment. I tip my hat to you. Kinda hard for tap dancing when they have wooden clogs and rubber legs... we must be striking a nerve here. Why else have Farid do a bogus study but to fill the uninitiated with doubt. Keep poking holes in this gas bag of a case Jim! Ed

It can't. Not without help. Excellent post Gil! Fraizer said only thing he remembers about oswalds clothing on the 22nd was he was wearing a gray jacket. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10490&relPageId=783

Craig will support the shoddy work, in 3D rendering mind you, of Hany Farid who only examined one image. "there is no way someone would have been able to get the internal and external elements of the photo just right in order to fabricate not only the one photo, but two others in the series."-Farid How would he know, this doesn't make sense. He acts like he only knew about one image, as if the other images he just mentioned either don't exist or ARE of the same head. Well which is it? I guess it would take him actually looking at all four images and a negative. (Though he is not a photographic expert it would help him to at least know what he's speaking to.) But Craig will discount those who actually examined all the photographic evidence in detail. Farid, like Craig, will avoid using several images and comparing them in 3D. As I have said this is because when they are rendered they would show problems with these images. (This is why the rendering needs to be done accurately and independently) Ray Mitchum is asking questions which would require an actual answer from Craig, but he, Craig, ignores this or say he does not care. Craig does not care to have his hat handed to him. He will continue to spout off about expertise in 2D imagery. Craig your only as good as your last post. The last few have been dismal. For Farid/Lamson to be genuine with their arguments they would need to compare 3D renderings of each picture. For only one image to be studied is not good science. In fact it is BAD SCIENCE! They would need to compare the renderings against each other to come to ANY conclusions. What Farid has done is produced a PRE-CONCLUSION. Lamson like Farid will use doubletalk to get around problems, blaming the human eye/brain for misinterpreting what it perceives, or others lack of experience with film and photography. I'm assuming (Farid/Lamson) both have the requisite organs, and they are functioning. So why the tap dance. Because a shadow from the sun is a single point light source. Both Craig and Hany will ignore the fact the shadow under a nose comes from above or overhead, while the body shadow is cast by a lower source. Claims of needing a mold of LHO's head are untrue. There are plenty of shots of LHO from many angles to render an accurate model, unlike the one Farid used. So there is one flawed study by Farid and Lamson cheers???? Shows just how concerned he is for the truth, justice and doing actual science. This guy is like the twentieth hijacker...If the FBI was thinking of using Farid in the future it should wisely rethink this.

My amends. "Philadelphia Quakers With Oswald in Mexico City" http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/28th_issue/quakers.html and "The Man on the Motorcycle in Mexico City" http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/2011/08/man-on-motorcycle-in-mexico-city.html This link has history and genealogy. A book by Myers documents the Irish Quakers coming onto Philly 1682-1750. http://net.lib.byu.edu/fslab/researchoutlines/NonGeographic/Quaker.pdf References include: Hoyt, Edwin P., THE NIXONS - AN AMERICAN FAMILY: HBBL CS7l.N741972 More on Nixon as a Quaker: http://www.kimopress.com/nixon.html The best part of it where Hiss says "I am familiar with the law. I attended Harvard Law School. I believe yours was Whittier." Will search for Von further when I get time...may try contacting a relative. This has the genealogical references: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~peacockmoltrer/fam00317.htm Von and Ruth (Winterbottom) had a child in Mexico, one "Kim Albert Peacock". Ed

Sorry Bill! A bit of chaff got in with the wheat. I was going to post the link to the article on JFKcountercoup: http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/2011/08/philly-quakers-with-oswald-in-mexico.html But it was dated the 28th of Aug and the Quixotic one pre-dated it, 12th of Aug so I chose the earlier work, it also had the books of reference which would aide those interested in reading them. Again did not mean to throw a JVB into this, not my intention. Thanks, Ed

Welcome Greg. Looking forward to what you have put together. Thanks to Bill, he has done some excellent work on this.

Hey John, I'd have to find it on Lancer but, if I recall correctly it was 16-18" for the head shot. That is close, and would be considered point blank. It (jacket) should show signs of splatter. Not sure about shoes or pants, questions were focused on the cone of spatter and its direction. Sherry did a 'reconstruction' of the wound angles to Tippit, and I brought up the bloodsplatter analysis of this. Her CD was mainly on the JFK, frontal headshot bloodsplatter and trajectory analysis. I had her sign her 2006 CD "JFK HOMICIDE FORENSIC RECONSTRUCTION". :-) It has a section entitled "Tippit Shooting Trajectory Analysis" which I just reviewed. Craig, She is AN EXPERT! She has TESTIFIED NUMEROUS TIMES! She is tops in her field...get it? Plus "I believe" means it has been a while, and I was not quoting Sherry directly. But I believe based on all the evidence and AN EXPERTS reconstruction and study, that yes the grey jacket would have to be ruled out solely on splatter. Thanks though for keeping us honest. Interesting you state you don't care who killed Kennedy, then why would we care what your opinion is as to the Tippit murder or evidence therein. Why not care about a slain leader, a murdered American, the death of a President? Is it because he was real and not a composite image?

I feel this link to "Oswald's Quaker connection in New Orleans and Mexico City" would help others not up to speed on the Philly and Mexico stuff. http://quixoticjoust.blogspot.com/2011/08/oswalds-quaker-connection-in-new.html and this thread will help also: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6548&pid=201372&st=45entry201372 Ed

This could be fun! Do we have his Cotton Picking Application? Or just a reference to it by the FBI?

From one of her last posts on Lancer: Dixie Dea Wed Feb-15-06 07:47 AM Member since May 30th 2002 40 posts #43840, "RE: Bertha Cheek - Jack Ruby's 'Banker'???" In response to In response to 19 quote "The information being discussed on this thread is extremely significant in my mind, I know Dixie Dea from John Simkin's Education Forum, she's a sweetheart." unquote Hi Robert... Although this thread was posted a year ago, when re-reading it just now, the information is still significant to me too. Every once in awhile I still look through my notes and also look for new info. In fact, just the other day I was looking through Mary Ferrell's Data Base and her notes says that Bertha Cheek was to go into a Night Club business with Jack Ruby, in December, 63. She even has the name, although it has slipped my mind at the moment....the Bistro or some such thing. But, this is not what Bertha told the Warren Commission. When both Bertha Cheek and Harry Olsen lied and hedged, in their testimonies, it just sorta makes me wonder why. Yes, I am a member of John Simkins forum, as well as some others. However, my system won't let me post on Simkins forum now, I can only read there. However, that is probably not a bad thing, it keeps me out of trouble there.. A sweetheart? That is a surprisingly nice thing to hear on Valentines Day! Best Regards ________________ Dixie A sweetheart for sure! Ed

<grins> I know. I asked Sherry Gutierrez Fiester on Lancer about blood splatter a while ago and it seems rather odd there was none on LHO, the jacket, gun, etc. especially with the close proximity of the coup de grace to the head of Tippit. I believe we can rule the GREY jacket out as being worn by the Tippit shooter based on this.

You would be well within reason to suspect this happened Gil, especially if we add this to the other highly questionable if not manufactured "evidence" that was not photographed in situ

Dixie had a great presence, it would come right through the screen. I never had the pleasure of meeting her in person, that I'm truly sorry she passed, wish I had. Thanks Bernice for letting us know. A sad day indeed. Respectfully, Ed

HAHAHA Now that is classic, thanks KK! I needed that.

That is rich! Chickens lay the eggs Craig, sorry its not the other way around. The rifle was never ordered or picked up by LHO. So how is it that fake pictures are now real, because you say so. OKAY. The rifle would need to be in LHO's possession for the pictures to be accurate. Seeing as that fairy tale has been dumped on like a landfill and shown not to be true, you'll still say the photo is correct. That is an odd way of looking at reality. So a faked photograph is your egg but you have no chicken to lay it. Hmmm Thank you, and please do come again.