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Peter McKenna

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  1. The planes all appeared to be at the same altitude. The groups of three were laid by three planes flying in formation together in the same direction. The contrail plane was flying alone. The chemtrails persisted, and expanded into cirrus clouds. The contrail dissipated within ten seconds. I know what I saw. Lewis does not. Jack Disposible cameras are quite available. Disposible digital cameras can be purchased at most convenience stores or drugstores for around twenty dollars. If you had wanted a photographic record it could be quite easily obtained. You haven't addressed the chall
  2. Just out of curiosity, what did the sky look like on 11/22/63?
  3. I'm glad to hear of Judith's optimistic respite. I'd guess that surely puts things into perspective. Three years ago my Mom was taken off of artificial respiration and passed away. That same day my brother committed suicide due to severe depression. My family's and my best wishes going forward for you and yours. I Hope that Judith is as happy and comfortable as is possible under the circumstances. The McKenna family
  4. George, Subsequent to the third edition of Loose Change and your James Whale interview, a couple of questions.... Whale inferred that Tim Sparks has been made wealthy. Is that from the Loose Change franchise (if you know)? As you seem to be an advocate of real truth as opposed to the manufactured "truth" some subscribe to for their own agenda, has the 9/11 "truth" movement been a windfall for some in terms of capitalizing on publications, internet advertising, and/or paid speaking engagements? Sorry to pose this to you, I am not implying anything with respect to you, but as you're a jour
  5. Oh, by all means question; just also listen to the replies.. as you are doing. Yep, I would say that somewhere there are plans for urban pacification using airborne delivered gas (or more properly, aerosol) - makes sense if that is what you are going to do. To me, a weakness in the current claims of "chemtrails" is there happening at high altitude on days where they can clearly be seen. Think of two different scenarios: 1. CHEMTRAILS TO INTRODUCE PATHOGEN / MIND CONTROL / ETC. If this were the case, it would be a covert operation. Why do it where it can clearly be seen? Wouldn't it be bett
  6. Thank you Evan. Good sites with sound scientific information. I will stand corrected (slightly) in that I said that "It is incorrect to assume that contrails will disappear in minutes. This could occur but would be atypical." From the studies done it appears that on average, the population of non-persistent contrails (contrails which last < 5 minutes), is anywhere between 5% and 25% of the total contrail population, which is a greater frequency than I had supposed (based on the heat input required to change water/moisture to water vapor/gas). This maybe due, at least in part, to the effec
  7. It is a proven fact that contrails can and do persist given the right conditions so it is wrong to say that they evaporate withing minutes. Depending on the conditions, contrails can evaporate quickly or persist, covering all times in between. Even if it were true that only these mythical "chemtrails" were the onnes persisting, then where is the dividing line? If it dissipates quickly within minutes then it is a contrail, what about if it takes 20 minutes? What about 30, what about 60, 2hours, 3 hours, etc? The science behind it perfectly explains the differences. I've seen studies where
  8. It is a proven fact that contrails can and do persist given the right conditions so it is wrong to say that they evaporate withing minutes. Depending on the conditions, contrails can evaporate quickly or persist, covering all times in between. Even if it were true that only these mythical "chemtrails" were the onnes persisting, then where is the dividing line? If it dissipates quickly within minutes then it is a contrail, what about if it takes 20 minutes? What about 30, what about 60, 2hours, 3 hours, etc? The science behind it perfectly explains the differences. I've seen studies where
  9. I dont know the answer to that. When it comes to the patterns which have been photographed, the answer would be no. The patterns themselves seem pretty weird. I would think that the more fuel efficient engine designs would cut back on any kind of trails, owing to the engine exhaust pollutants in creation of core particles for ice crystal formation.
  10. Thanks, Peter. I'm most curious about the spread of the so-called chemtrails. I have observed them occluding significant portions (in this layman's terms, at least 50%) of the visible sky. "Visible," that is, from the outskirts of a mid-size American city -- as opposed to, say, open prairie in Kansas. I seems that the trails propagate and thicken rather than spread themselves ever thinner. Can you account for this? Thanks in advance. Once formed contrails are quite similar to cirrus clouds. I assume that upper level winds spread the formations (I'm not a meteorologist but this is a
  11. It is a proven fact that contrails can and do persist given the right conditions so it is wrong to say that they evaporate withing minutes. Depending on the conditions, contrails can evaporate quickly or persist, covering all times in between. Even if it were true that only these mythical "chemtrails" were the onnes persisting, then where is the dividing line? If it dissipates quickly within minutes then it is a contrail, what about if it takes 20 minutes? What about 30, what about 60, 2hours, 3 hours, etc? The science behind it perfectly explains the differences. I've seen studies where
  12. I have read and scanned many of the articles on the page you linked. I also did a web search on chemtrails and have read and scanned several articles on the web. Several articles posit the spraying of microscopic pathogens such as strep and pseudemonous. So far, from what I’ve read, the only circumstances that suggest these pathogens to have been released purposefully. are the presence of pathogens isolated in visible sublimates/stains discovered following the observation of what appeared to be chemtrails. These pathogens are naturally occurring, however, and the observations, while suggesti
  13. What are "Chemtrails" and why are they a political conspiracy? Why are they prevalent over Fort Worth? I think I understand the theory behind contrails. Per Wikipedia: "Contrails or vapor trails are condensation trails and artificial cirrus clouds made by the exhaust of aircraft engines or wingtip vortices which precipitate a stream of tiny ice crystals in moist, frigid upper air." Can't say I've ever heard of "chemtrails" though. Click on this for a listing of chemtrail sites and photos: http://www.rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html For the theories concerning "Chemtrails" to
  14. What are "Chemtrails" and why are they a political conspiracy? Why are they prevalent over Fort Worth? I think I understand the theory behind contrails. Per Wikipedia: "Contrails or vapor trails are condensation trails and artificial cirrus clouds made by the exhaust of aircraft engines or wingtip vortices which precipitate a stream of tiny ice crystals in moist, frigid upper air." Can't say I've ever heard of "chemtrails" though.
  15. Amazingly what is passing off as conservative government, these days, is the diametric opposite of what a conservative philosophy used to be in the not too distant past. Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney, both self styled conservatives, have spoken out in favor of a Presidential line item veto. A line item veto, if you haven’t heard of it, would give the President the power to editorialize the legislature brought before him. Line item veto would allow him to erase lines, sections, or whole chapters of bills, allowing the bill to be passed in its altered state rather than be vetoed. The line ite
  16. There seems to be a greater and greater call for the 'war on drugs' to be abandoned. Treat drug use as a disease, not a crime. I'm interested in how other countries have dealt with the problem? I understand the Netherlands have gone down the decriminalisation road - how has that turned out? So far, it seems we are badly losing the war on drugs. US gun laws might be an example of ineffective gun control if some states ban the sale of handguns and some states allow unrestricted handgun handgun sales, gunrunning across state lines becomes a criminal enterprise. For one or two European count
  17. There seems to be a greater and greater call for the 'war on drugs' to be abandoned. Treat drug use as a disease, not a crime. I'm interested in how other countries have dealt with the problem? I understand the Netherlands have gone down the decriminalisation road - how has that turned out? So far, it seems we are badly losing the war on drugs. I don't know much about the Netherlands success against the criminal element, having to a large degree decriminalized drugs, but places like Amsterdam are portrayed as having a large criminal element in proximity due to the clearinghouse effect that
  18. I would suggest reading any books documenting the birth of the Council on Foreign Relations.
  19. It’s difficult to see a clear outline of many policy differences between the Conservatives and liberals anymore. In the USA the underlying platform for Conservatives used to be less central Government (or just less government). By contrast Liberals were thought to advocate a greater role for government in peoples' lives (i.e. people couldn't think for themselves and certainly couldn't care for themselves). Since then (this paradigm I believe ended at least a decade ago) both groups seem to be shifting towards a larger role in central government (esp. in such matters as the Patriot Act, War
  20. It seems that following Maclean's and then Burgess' disappearance and defection in 1951/1952, Phiby came under scrutiny and subsequently the "Secret Trial" was held of Philby in 1952 (I had to look up the dates form Wikipedia, although I recollect Philby's timeline from his book "My Silent War"). At that time Anthony Blunt, although not under overt suspicion as the fourth man (he didn't confess until 1964), was rendered impotent with respect to continuing espionage activities (Michael Straight's book "After Long Silence"). By 1956, at the time of Crabbe's disappearance, of the "Cambridge Fou
  21. Bob Edwards, MP, & Kenneth Dunne. A Study of a Master Spy (London: Housmans, second edition, May 1961), p.63: Was it Adenauer or Erhard who groaned, upon being introduced to yet another CIA man bearing the wearingly familiar alias, "Not another Smith!"? Now was it Nicholas Elliot or "Mathew Smith" who ordered Crabb into the water? I don't believe anyone in MI5 or any Englishman would take orders from an American no matter how much was paid out. You can't blame the CIA for everything. BK In "Spycatcher" Peter Wright claimed the existnce of a "Fifth Man" in the Cambridge ring
  22. From several books I had read many years ago (sorry for the lack of citing, but it would take me at least a week of rereading to find the pertinent sections) the Israelis have it all over the US with respect to Human Intelligence. We had pretty well abandoned Human intel in favor of Communications and Electronics Intelligence back in the 1960s. By comparison, Mossad had built up their human intelligence resources to one of the world’s best (maybe the world’s best; read of the six day war, or the capture of Eichmann). The only rival human intelligence during the cold war was the Soviets who had
  23. Reviewing the pictures of the cut columns and beams (cut on the bias) the cuts were ovbiously made using flame or carbon arc gouge methods. These methods employ forced gas clearing of the slag to allow the efficient cutting of the member. Exothermic methods employing thermite or thermate would leave a very rough and slag laden cut, neither very straight nor clean. I would also dispute any theory which includes exothermic material flow to the outside of the building. The heat contained in a pool of such material, after cutting a beam would prevent it from being directed to the exterior of t
  24. Jack Yer jokin' aren't yer? Dave Absolutely not joking. Emails between Percy and me have taken 48 hours this week IF THEY CONTAIN IMAGES. A technical problem? Hasn't happened previously. And as Duane wrote, this week I wanted to email him as I sometimes have done...AND HIS OLD EMAILS AND HIS EMAIL ADDRESS HAD DISAPPEARED FROM MY ADDRESS BOOK. Annoying, yes. Coincidence...? Jack I'm not questioning the fact that you may be experiencing some technical problems with your email (heck, I do from time to time). I'm questioning you suspecting people on this forum of being involve
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