Anthony Thorne

2 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

Kissinger was rightfully thrown off the 9/11 Commission with deserved alacrity.

Good article. 

John Lehman worked under Kissinger as a NSC staffer in the early 70's. I suspect Lehman's appointment to the 9/11 Commission helped Kissinger keep an eye on whatever it got up to.

On 5/16/2008 at 2:26 PM, Harry J.Dean said:

The last time I spoke with Larry {Howard} was upon his return

from talking with Garrison in mid 1960s. He said Garrison had an enlarged

picture of me, and ask Howard several questions. Our talk via phone was

brief.

In 1990 I wrote a manuscript/book telling the activities of Howard and many

of our anti-Castro, anti-Kennedy associates, while all of them were still living.

Some of it can be read on this Forum Index.

Harry, where can excerpts of that manuscript be read? I'd love to read the whole thing but obviously understand it's likely not possible.

Howard is an interesting guy.

You're not wrong, but I think as Brown spent five years or so writing that Chronology, he became increasingly irked by her work every time she popped up in the narrative. But you're right, it's a point that the reader has reiterated to them a bit too much.

That's a great speech by Nasser.

Guyenot is back with another one. Even if you don't agree with every point he makes - I don't - it's worth a read.

https://www.unz.com/article/kennedy-assassination-cia-did-it-theorists-are-covering-for-israel/

I wasn't aware that Guyenot was involved with the French translation of the James Douglass book for the French market. Guyenot later pushed the Mossad-did-it thesis on Douglass, but Douglass declined to bite.

Alright. I think I've figured it out. It's a visit by King Hassan II, and unless anyone has suggestions to say that the figure with sunglasses is someone else, these look like members of the King's security services in attendance with JFK's own security personnel.

Will say more about this at another time.

A bigger picture for reference.

I don't have a definite answer. Am curious if others recognise the person.

This is from a parade with JFK in Washington in March 1963.

Who's the guy in the sunglasses?

Haven't seen that photo yet Leslie but I'll obviously keep you in the loop. I'm still looking at what links where. A few things are coming up.

1 hour ago, Leslie Sharp said:

@Anthony Thorne at least a few friends that the CIA might have found useful on the day . . . 

Can you be specific?  Who are your candidates?

Not yet. Still investigating. But one name in particular has me pondering a few puzzles this morning - in particular, whether it matches up with a person who was visually in the thick of things on the day.

I have 18 tabs open on my browser right now, half being historical books, some being reports from CIA collections, some news articles. I'm going to do a run through and grab info that I think is pertinent. Once I'm done, I'll do a fat post here, with the links, and the relevant background and info. Then everyone can poke at it and pick it apart and likely provide a lot more info as to whether the balloon floats or sinks. 

But he has links to the organisation of assassinations, and also limited connections to the CIA, as agents were assigned to his area of expertise in his resident country throughout the 60's. CIA likely worked with him prior to the JFK assassination, and evidently worked with him afterwards. But the Mossad definitely worked with him. He also might have helped Angleton out at one point.

He's not Israeli, and I'd never heard of him till recently. When I searched his name on this forum, I got one single hit, as his name appears in a list, with no further info, so he's never been discussed on this forum before. But he's a striking figure.

6 hours ago, Pamela Brown said:

I I do not see these assassinations as being done by Mossad, but though CIA via James Angleton.  The goal was to serve the best interests of Israel. 

I agree that the CIA, as documented through maybe 30 books on my bookshelf, is more prominent throughout nearly every level of the plot you can think of. At the level of assets though - and this can be reduced down to an individual here or there - the Mossad had at least a few friends that the CIA might have found useful on the day, and I don't think it's a reach to suggest that Angleton would have been better placed than many to tap them on the shoulder if required.

It might be worth linking Laurent Guyenot's past few years of articles here, some of them quite long. He's returned to this topic a number of times, including recently.

I was lukewarm about both Guyenot and Piper's books on earlier pages. I don't feel either author captures every nuance in the case, but the accumulation of detail Guyenot eventually throws at you is certainly something.

Did Israel kill the Kennedy's?

https://www.unz.com/article/did-israel-kill-the-kennedies/

Fifteen Years before Kennedy, Zionists murdered Forrestal

https://www.unz.com/article/fifteen-years-before-kennedy-zionists-murdered-forrestal/

Jack Ruby - Israel's Smoking Gun

https://www.unz.com/article/jack-ruby-israels-smoking-gun/

Angleton, the Mossad and the Kennedy assassinations

https://www.unz.com/article/angleton-mossad-and-the-kennedy-assassinations/

President Kennedy's assassination was a Zionist coup

https://www.unz.com/article/president-kennedys-assassination-was-a-zionist-coup/

JFK and American's Destiny Betrayed

https://www.unz.com/article/jfk-and-americas-destiny-betrayed/

Kennedy - An Israeli Perspective

https://www.unz.com/article/kennedy-an-israeli-perspective/

The Umbrella Man - The sins of the father, and the Kennedy Curse

https://www.unz.com/article/the-umbrella-man-the-sins-of-the-father-and-the-kennedy-curse/

Fetter has offered to help me over the coming weeks if I can't get the book from Amazon, but it appears to ba available on Amazon UK without restrictions and another forum member has also ordered it. So, stay tuned.

Thanks Gary, it looks excellent.

5 hours ago, Michael Griffith said:

One thing that jumps out at me is his statement on Amazon where he says that claims of Mafia and CIA involvement are "red herrings." That right there makes me wonder about the book's value and the guy's research. If there were a Kindle version, I might buy one of the volumes to check it out, but he's only offering it as a hardback.

Amazon.com: Under Cover of Night: The United States Air Force and the Assassination of John F. Kennedy: 9798218283506: Fetter, Sean

The book isn't even coming up as available for Australian purchasers. With no preview available on a website, limited purchase options, and his relatively unhelpful Twitter posts, it'll be hard to prioritise purchasing this book for a while.

Seems like as good a guess as any. Though on reflection, Barnes was Assistant Deputy Director of Plans '60 - '62, chief of the CIA's Domestic Operations Division '62 onwards. Even with the awareness of the CIA using front companies, it feels like it would have been a bit difficult for Barnes to have been a supervisor at one of them during those years. You'd think he would have had more on his plate.

Scroll down to the bottom of this link and Trine Day have three other JFK assassination related books coming besides this one. But this one certainly looks interesting.

https://trineday.myshopify.com/collections/upcoming-releases

Not sure if this is a clue as to some of the stuff in Fetter's book.

The History Matters site has a list of ARRB Medical exhibits, linked here.

https://history-matters.com/archive/contents/arrb/contents_arrb_med-exhibits.htm

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The ARRB Master Set of Medical Exhibits brings together in one place much of the most important medical testimony and documents in the JFK assassination. These selection of documents is due to their use as exhibits during the questioning of medical witnesses by the Review Board in 1996 through 1998.

Most of the items at the above link are clickable and viewable. A handful have not been included, and so they're simply listed as 'not available, and they pop up in black on the above list, whereas all the stuff that you can click on and view is shown in blue.

Scroll down the page at the link above, till you get to the final entries that are in black. The final four are listed as follows

Fetter interviewed Sibert twice. Sibert's Spartacus page is here.

https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKsibertW.htm

Sibert was in the US Air Force before joining the FBI. Fetter's book claims to be about figures in the US Air Force being involved in the assassination. Did Sibert give Fetter any leads or encourage others to talk to him? I wonder.

His Twitter.

https://twitter.com/david_c_hoffman?lang=en

His WGA profile.

https://directories.wga.org/member/davidchoffman

There's another David Hoffman who wrote a book about the Oklahoma bombing in the 90's. Despite the WGA profile above mentioning an interest in a lot of deep political stuff, I'm assuming they're two different people.

Yeah, he hypes his own work strongly, but researchers who go deep into a particular area sometimes have a slanted perspective on the work of others who have gone in a different direction. Also - I gather the guy did either PR work or reporting at some point for Reuters, so he's probably keen to get bang for his buck with those press releases.  Big claims to live up to, Fetter will need to at least give us the the chapter headings, sample pages and examples of his writing and research to maintain any interest. If these books are properly footnoted and documented I'll be curious to read them, less so if they start citing interviews and documents that we can't see or verify for ourselves. It'd be a reach to fill two whole volumes with just junk though - surely one would suffice if that was the goal? - so hopefully he has something to show us next week.

A good list, feel free to chuck in

Gerald McKnight - BREACH OF TRUST, on the Warren Commission.

John Newman - COUNTDOWN TO DARKNESS and INTO THE STORM

Alex Cox - THE PRESIDENT AND THE PROVOCATEUR

James DiEugenio's THE JFK ASSASSINTION (2018 edition) and the JFK REVISITED volume from last year. They're two different books and you should probably grab them both, along with the Garrison bio that you've already listed.

Joan Mellen - THE GREAT GAME IN CUBA (paperback edition is expanded I think)

Warren Hinckle and William Turner's DEADLY SECRETS

Walt Brown's chronology is worth getting a few on Kindle, I'd suggest books 3 and 4 of his master chronology, then pick a couple of his side volumes. They're very long, and the problem with getting 1,2,3,4 of the chronology is you'll be wading through a thousand pages of backstory before you get to things that are specifically assassination related.

And have a scan through the various JFK books at the Trine Day site, skipping anything written by or involving Judyth Baker. A few of them have good reviews at Kennedys and King, and they have a few more on the way.

Not sure Paul.

Fetter hasn't shown all his cards yet with his JFK book, but based on his Twitter feed it's fair to say he's picked a side in the current Gaza conflict, and it's not with the folks who receive funding and weapons from the US. I'm not sure if this indicates where he might be going with his JFK volume, as a couple of his quick JFK posts mentioned the Ben Gurion nuclear dispute, and a couple of writers have attempted to square that circle with the background of Ruby. But the emphasis on the Air Force is novel, and with two books to fill I'm hopeful that there will be something of interest here.

Sean Fetter is on Twitter - SeanFetterJFK. For the most part he's currently just posting lots of social media stuff about the current war in Gaza, but it's interspersed with posts hyping his upcoming JFK volume. He responded quickly to a couple of my messages. He says the books will feature a lot of new interviews and documentation, and full details of how to order them will be posted in just a few days. I suggested that he should make a preview available so folks can see what they're in for before they order, so we'll see this week if he does.

That seems to be promotional hype. It looks like Arlington Press is his own publishing outfit, and I'm guessing he doesn't expect people to mistake it for one of the bigger outfits given that they have no other books out that I can see and the website has nearly no detail on it.

I'll check next week but there's a chance the volume will be a self printed Amazon Kindle edition, like John Newman's are, and like a lot of other self published JFK books. If he's printing them independently and then putting them on Amazon, it seems like a lot of additional work to get the same result.

It's funny. King praises his wife (and fellow novelist) Tabitha in a lot of his writing - justifiably as she seems like a great wife. King fans will frequently hear from King how great she is. Tabitha, according to a few online articles, does believe there was a conspiracy, even though Stephen King doesn't. So I'm assuming a few fans would have heard from the get go that there was an opposing case to be made, even though Stephen King read Bugliosi's phonebook sized volume and was convinced that it had answered every question.

It's from a Goodreads discussion from Peter someone under a discussion or review of Twyman's BLOODY TREASON.

https://www.goodreads.com/Review/706932614/comments?subject=706932614

The person who posted it doesn't identify themselves fully, and their extended post at the link above wanders around a bit and bumps into territory that potentially isn't in Fetter's book, so I only posted the above chunk of it. Other than what I've posted so far in this thread, there's little else online about Fetter and anything he's done with JFK research, so I'm curious to see how things unfold over the next week or so.