Karl Kinaski

Prouty also claimed that he personaly knew the three IC-individuals which where responsible for the Powers hoax: The staged U-2 Crash on May 1st 1960 for the purpose to crash the Paris-summit and Ike's "Crusade for peace." He claimed he knew their names. But he never gave them. KK

OT: I remember I ordered the book FINAL CHARADE back in 2001 in an Austrian book shop. It was listed in the computer as about to be published in a few weeks. A month later it disappeared from the computer. 20 years later, were is it? The book-project FINAL CHARADE is one of the most funny things in the JFK assassination mess. KK Regarding the coffin. I think the coffin with Kennedys remains was hijacked in front of the Bethesda Tower, as Hugh Clark described it in an interview with Brent Holland in THIS video at 23min54sec ... after the ambulance disappeared into the dark grounds o

Back in 2000 Shakelford, Platzman, Conway and Baker were close. Since Conway and Lifton had a book project called FINAL CHARADE, and Lifton was a early Judyth hater, Conway was in a fix. She sided with Lifton, but they never published their book FINAL CHARADE while Judyth published her book, despite all the obstacles a bunch of Judyth haters throw her in the way ... NOLA January 2000. Platzman, JVB, Conway, Shakelford, Anna Lewis in 2000 ... Quote from -- that -- side: In early January 2000, Debra Conway (owner and co-founder of JFK Lancer) volunteered to video-tape

@Ron Bulman. You are right. To ignore her, is the only way to get around her ... 🙂

I have the Walt Brown book. It is a complete and IMO deliberate distortion of JVB's complex account ... KK

@D. Josephs: @Anna Lewis Interview ... "1962" ..."1963" ... that we call a lapse ... you can't disprove anything because of a lapse ... cheap to do so, isn't it? Fact is: There are hundreds of rebuttals regarding HARVEY AND LEE or RECLAIMING HISTRORY, and not a single one (except some, dealing with minor errors, but errare humanum est) regarding ME AND LEE out there in the www. You know, why? JVB was in NOLA in the summer of 63 ... and her critics were not. BTW: When you dump JVB you dump Haslam too. They are in the same boat. KK

To shift all those repetitive and tiring H&L Topics (about 10 or more) to a subforum would unburden the JFK assassination debate forum a lot, IMO... everyone who is obsessed with H&L could go there for endless debates ... KK

"HARVEY AND LEE" and the "Oswald in NOLA eyewitness" Judyth Vary Baker book "ME AND LEE" are not compatible. That's why Armstrong is refusing to meet Baker to discus the subject. (James Files, the Steven Louis Wittt of the grassy knoll, as I call him, also refuses to meet Baker ... Read how Baker dismantles some of Armstrongs claims brought forward by Athe late Armstrong-Fan Jack White:

BTW: There is a whole sub-forum devoted to HARVEY AND LEE at ROCK. And a FB page dealing with that book. Enough is enough? I think so.

From another thread of this forum dealing with HARVEY AND LEE. (I think there are about ten threads dealing with that book ... Now go to page 288 of HARVEY AND LEE, quote: Quote HARVEY AND LEE: p. 288 It is clear that Oswald understood and spoke Russian prior his arrival in Mos­cow, although the extent of his proficiency remains unknown. It is also clear that after he arrived in the Soviet Union, he dared not let anyone know that he spoke Russian, especially the people with whom he spent the most time, the Zigers, who he probably assumed were report into the KGB.

Edit: double post

@David Josephs: At last your Huston pic shows a lot of motorcycles flanking the limo ... had you read my post, than you would know, that my claim is, that it was a combination of deliberate security flaws which lead to the "siting duck" situation. -- No motorcycles beside the limo -- Two secret service men recalled at Love field, therefore no SS men on beack of the limo -- Stand clear of the Limo -- No additional security provided by the sheriffs in Dallas and army Intelligence -- Low speed at Elm --And last but not least : Breaking the Motorcade into three

There are already six other treads dealing with that particular book HARVEY AND LEE http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/12175-donation-of-harvey-and-lee/ http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/18963-harvey-and-lee/ http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22928-my-review-of-john-armstrongs-harvey-and-lee/ http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/6924-john-armstrong-hold-the-harvey-and-lee/ http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/24454-pdf-harvey-and-lee-cd-rom-john-armstrong/ http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23677-a-couple-of-real-gems-from-the-harve

Robert Weldon Hargis, the southernmost motorcycle cop at the rear of the pres. limo, was of the opinion, Greer hit the breaks to make it easier for the SS men to jump onto the limo to do their job ... but nobody jumped ... and a second later Hargis was hit in the face with bone fragments, blood and brain-matter, that he thought he was hit too ...

I consider James Files a trained Disinformant. Maybe he is the only jailed person on earth who was paroled after confessing a murder. Files was a "gift-pill" for Wim Dankbaar. This otherwise respectable JFK researcher bought the Files-Tale 100 Percent. Files is a IC creation to muddy the waters ... The Louis Steven Witt of the grassy knoll. Or another Roscoe White ... to put him on trial would be a lose lose situation for the prosecution: If the verdict is guilty, that means conspiracy. If the verdict is not guilty, that means Files is what he is: A fraud ... and the prosecution would appear