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    Prayer Man More Than A Fuzzy Picture

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    Posted · Edited by Karl Kinaski

    Another one:

    Quote, WC-Hearing: 

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    Mr. Ball: At that time didn't you know that one of your officers,
    Baker, had seen Oswald on the second floor?
    Mr.  Fritz:  They  told  me  about  that  down  at  the  bookstore;  I believe Mr. Truly or someone told me about it, told me they had met him—I think he told me, person who told me about, I believe told me that they met him on the stairway, but our investigation shows that he  actually  saw  him  in  a  lunchroom,  a  little  lunchroom  where  they were eating, and he held his gun on this man and Mr. Truly told him that he worked there, and the officer let him go.
    Mr. Ball: Did you question Oswald about that?
    Mr. Fritz: Yes, sir; I asked him about that and he knew that the officer stopped him all right.


     

     

     

    Prayer Man More Than A Fuzzy Picture

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    @Bill Brown, said:

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    On film....

    Reporter:  "Were you in the building at the time?"

    Oswald:  "Naturally, if I work in that building, yes sir."

    Oswald admits, on film, that he was inside the building at the time of the shooting.  Therefore, Oswald was not out by the front steps.  If Oswald was not out by the front steps, then he is not prayer man.  If Oswald is not prayer man, then who cares who prayer man was.

     

    Good point!

    This reporter-question would have been a perfect opportunity for Oswald to cry: No, I was out in front of the building. With Bill Shelley! 

    The prayer man szenario is disintegrating before our eyes. 

     

    Prayer Man More Than A Fuzzy Picture

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     @David Josephs; Obviously even Malcolm Blunt who was working for Armstrong on his "Two Ossis AND two Marguerites" stuff was turning his back to that crazy theory. But Armstrong I must confess is generating new fanboys from time to time. 

    BTW Can you tell me which Ossi had no encounter with Baker on the 2nd floor ... Harvey or Lee? ... and was the mother of Harvy or Lee the chubby one? And why exactly didn't Marina Oswald realize that she had sex with two different guys HARVEY and LEE all the time? 🤡

    Back to Kamp and Blunt. Blunt seems to have a habit of working with the wrong guys. First Armstrong, now Bart Kamp. Does Kamp know if HARVEY or LEE had no encounter with Marion Baker on the 2nd floor? 

     

    Prayer Man More Than A Fuzzy Picture

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     @Pat Speer

    Thx for the info about Blunt. I am sure he is a capacity in the JFKA domain. That does not remove the fact that Blunt is on Y Tube saying that he worked with Armstrong on the "Oswald thing through 98, 99" (Blunt's own words)  And Armstrong was running around at least since 1997 promoting his wild theory. Did he really need two years to realizes that Armstrong is just another b..sh ... artist?

    Prayer Man More Than A Fuzzy Picture

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    @David Josephs/Tom Gram ... I am a JVB guy. Yes. But I am a Lifton guy too. I am a DiEugenio guy. A Oliver Stone guy. I am a Mark Shaw guy. I am a Garrison guy. Not so much a Joan Mellen guy ... I am a Martk Lane/Penn Jones/Harold Weisberg guy./ I am a Joachim Joesten and I am a James W. Douglas guy.  I am a Hans Habe guy. I am a FRUS guy. And I am a ROTC guy. I am a Mary Ferrell Foundation guy where I currently read the "Jack Ruby trial transcripts."  I am  a Warren Commission guy in the sense that I have as one big pdf the whole 26 Volumes of the awful construct and are an interested reader of it ...  I could go on for hours... and you are right: I am not so much a Bart Kamp guy. Or Malcolm Blunt guy. I am definitely no John Armstrong, Bugliosi or Posner guy ...  

    BTW@Tom Gram. Malcolm Blunt said he worked with Armstrong till 1999.  In 1997 Armstrong gave is first major speech about his crazy two Lee H.Oswalds/ two Maguerite Oswalds theory which later became his book HARVEY AND LEE.  You can read it here and convince yourself that you are simply wrong by claiming, quote: 
     

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    Blunt worked as a researcher for Armstrong but disowned the book once Armstrong decided to go with the doppelgänger theory. He and Armstrong didn’t speak for over a year. 

     

    KK

     

    Prayer Man More Than A Fuzzy Picture

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    @David Josephs/Tom Gram ... I am a JVB guy. Yes. But I am a Lifton guy too. I am a DiEugenio guy. A Oliver Stone guy. I am a Mark Shaw guy. I am a Garrison guy. Not so much a Joan Mellen guy ... I am a Mark Lane/Penn Jones/Harold Weisberg guy./ No so much a edward Jay Epstein guy. I am a Joachim Joesten and I am a James W. Douglas guy.  I am a Hans Habe guy. I am a Prouty guy. I am a FRUS guy. And I am a ROTC guy. I am a Mary Ferrell Foundation guy where I currently read the "Jack Ruby trial transcripts."  Sometimes I am a Gil Jesus and Vince Palamara guy. I am  a Warren Commission guy in the sense that I have as one big pdf the whole 26 Volumes of the awful construct  and I am an interested reader of it ...  I could go on for hours but I stop the name dropping here ... and you are right  I am not so much a Bart Kamp guy. Or Malcolm Blunt guy. I am definitely no John Armstrong, Bugliosi or Posner guy ...  

    BTW@Tom Gram. Malcolm Blunt said he worked with Armstrong till 1999.  In 1997 Armstrong gave is first major speech about his crazy two Lee H.Oswalds/ two Maguerite Oswalds theory which later became his book HARVEY AND LEE.  You can read it here and convince yourself that you are simply wrong by claiming, quote: 
     

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    Blunt worked as a researcher for Armstrong but disowned the book once Armstrong decided to go with the doppelgänger theory. He and Armstrong didn’t speak for over a year. 

     

    KK

     

    Prayer Man More Than A Fuzzy Picture

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    @Sandy Larsen said, quote:

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    You (obviously Pat Speer, me and some others?) are conspiracy seekers whereas we are truth seekers.

    Could you expand a little bit on who are "we"? Maybe you can provide some names except the name of the well known truth seeker Sandy Larsen? Who here in your opinion is a truth seeker an who is a "conspiracy seeker", whatever that meant?  Enlighten me. 

     

    Prayer Man More Than A Fuzzy Picture

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    BTW Kamp is a fan of Malcolm Blunt and Malcolm Blunt was a cooperator of John Armstrong and his crazy "Harvey and Lee" doorstopper in which they claim that there not only were two Oswalds around (which is IMO an understatement) but two Marguerite Oswalds too. (Which is crazy.) This kind of "research" does more harm to the truth than the WCR. 

     

    Bang up job, folks...

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    Mark Shaw explodes over youngsters lured into the 6th floor museum at 1h09min22sec of this video. 

    It is an ongoing process of brainwashing to "flatten the curve" of CTers. 😉(The term they coined for critical thinkers.) Grab them while they are young!

     

    BTW Glued to a lot of Y-Tube JFKA videos now is a "context" link. It is the wikipedia article about the JFKA which is very much pro Lone Nut. Y Tube should stop that b...sh.t. That is a kind of brainwashing too. 

    Prayer Man More Than A Fuzzy Picture

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    It is an ironic that Bart Kamp is of the opinion the he has blown a hole into the WC narrative by disregarding the 2nd floor lunchroom encounter, which IMO is one of the few things where the WCR doesn't lie. The WCR is using this encounter to polster his lone nut fairy tale while serious researchers of the first hour realized that this encounter is rather a prove for Oswalds innocence. Now Bart Kamp comes along and claims, there was no 2nd floor encounter and Oswald is innocent .... am I the only one who thinks that is funny?

    URGENT BULLETIN 🚨: Armed Gunman Arrested at RFK Jr. Event in Los Angeles

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    @Sandy Larsen said, quote: 

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    I reminded everybody more than once not to talk about contemporary political issues.

     

    Isn't this whole thread  about an contemporary political issue? 🙂  

    You removed a post of mine where  I suggested the possibility  that US politics is a prisoner of the Intelligence community and the mess started with 22.11. 1963. I said that Oswald did the work of an agent provocateur in NOLA when handing out pro Castro flyers and that type IC work is still a tool used by the Intelligence Community and that Ray Ebbs could be an agent provocateur like Oswald. But we have to wait until his trial to find out more ..  It's all about IC work in the past and the present time.  

    Can you tell me what prompted you to put out you moderator scissors to cut out such a post? 

    Again: This whole thread is about contemporary politics unless you say  Kennedy assassinations and assassination attempts have nothing to do with politics. Know what? The Warren Commission said that.  

    Since history is obviously  repeating itself everybody here should be allowed to draw parallels between the past and the present time, shouldn't they? 

    The Hill Asks About RFK2 Security

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    @Michael Griffith said, quote:

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    I happen to know a Secret Service agent and two former agents from other agencies who did presidential protection work. They are all men of good character who would never take part in any illicit operation to allow someone to be harmed.

    Abraham Bolden told a different story.

    RFK is paying 100 000 to 200 000 bucks a month out o his own pocket for his personal security.  I think he is better off with that arrangement.  That is not much compared to Zuck, quote:

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    According to a filing by the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative (CZI) in February 2023, the company increased its spending on Mark Zuckerberg's personal security by $4 million. This means that Zuckerberg's personal security costs $14 million in 2023, up from $10 million in previous years.

    Now ask me if something is wrong with mankind. 

    Edwin Lopez: Oswald never visited embassies in Mexico City

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    Posted · Edited by Karl Kinaski

     @David Josephs After all she is the only person providing a plausible motive for Oswald going to Mexico city. As Tracy Barnes said to Belin: Oswald was there as participant in a GET CASTRO project. Killing a foreign leader. (The "secret team" loved it to be interviewed by Belin. Belin "interviewed" Lansdale too in the early seventies. 

      

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