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  1. Alan Grant was invited into the house by Michael Paine. Curiously, Michael had time to return home from downtown and then go shopping before he encountered the Life reporters. The photograph of the sofa on the east wall of the living room that Alan Grant captured was taken the evening of 11/22/63. https://allangrant.com/oswaldstory.htm
  2. Thank you for that correction. I was working "from memory" but I still have the same feeling that the Campisi meeting was more about sending a message to people, a "warning", than it was about paying respects to Ruby.
  3. There was a Dallas newspaper article that mentioned that Joseph Civello had visited Ruby in the Hospital (where I think he was being held under observation) shortly after he had killed Oswald. I understood the moment I read this that it was a "message" to any local witnesses to keep their mouths shut and that Ruby had done the deed for the mob. Thanks for the great interview, Greg. p.s. I wonder if Marina's visit to H.L. Hunt is the reason her testimony seemed to change over time?
  4. According to the story she certainly knew it was a letter that Oswald wrote when she slipped it into the desk. By that time, it had been on the desk for at least 36 hours and she had already read it and copied it. After hiding the draft in the desk secretary, (she never mentions hiding the dictionary, btw), she then asks Michael and Lee to come into the living room and move the furniture around? Sounds plausible, too.
  5. Under Oath, Ruth stated she did not know to whom the dictionary belonged. I'd like to see that dictionary. As far as I know, it's not in evidence and we are left with a typewritten report that describes the notations LHO made inside it. Which is sorta like asking an artist to make a rendering of a head wound from a photo and introducing the rendering as evidence. I don't know if it was checked for micro-dots.
  6. I'd have to re-read her testimony to find her exact wording but off the top of my head, she testified that a phrase she read above the fold is what drew her attention to the paper to begin with. How she ID'ed it as Oswald's and how she determined it was the draft of the letter he typed is not discussed. I can't rule out, if the story is factual, that she could have identified a piece of paper, despite not having read it, at a later time the same day. I don't think Marina was ever considered a possible source of the draft.
  7. I believe that the entire story about how RP came to acquire Oswald's draft is probably untrue. As a part of that, I believe the portion of her story that occurred in the living room is fraught with untruths and distortions. To this point directly, I don't think the letter ever "resided" on that desk. I think it was acquired by other means. To answer your question; Until Sunday afternoon, the only adults in the house are Lee, Marina and Ruth. My original question was how did Ruth "know" this draft was the letter LHO typed that morning, according to her story?
  8. Tommy, It's a possibility that Ruth was so observant that she became an authority on LHO's handwriting with a peak. My own experience is that I learn about someone's handwriting after they have written me a few things and I read them. It's far more likely she became an "expert"on his handwriting when she very carefully made her own flawless copy while LHO was using the bathroom. Let's be honest, the event that Ruth offers as proof of her initial suspicions is that LHO shielded the draft from her view and she could not see it. She also denied seeing the typed document. LHO had a lot of pap
  9. I'm not to the point yet where I want to call Agent Hosty out but... It is against FBI policy to interview a female suspect alone without another Agent present. These FBI protocols are clear and absolute. I recommend a read of the testimony of the other FBI Agents involved in the post assassination investigation to understand how far "out there" Hosty's Nov. 1st visit to the Paines actually was (i.e. Church Committee). This "protocol" does not apply to visiting a female "informant" to discuss the weather and current events.
  10. Tommy, The timeline is this per RP: 1. Oswald borrows the typewriter and uses it in the kitchen sometime after breakfast on Saturday morning. 2. After returning to the house from the drivers license testing facility and shopping, Ruth notices a folded hand written note in her living room on top of the "small secretary" desk. 3. It remains there, on top of the desk, until Sunday morning when she reads it, copies it and returns it to that location while Oswald is in the shower. 4. Sunday evening after dinner, she slips it inside the desk and then asks Michael and Lee to
  11. I think this is a key item that could unravel whatever was really going on with Oswald, the Paines and the FBI post assassination. I don't know what the true story is yet but there are so many really odd coincidences and discrepancies that it's difficult for an objective researcher not to "smell smoke". Ruth Paine admits that she never saw or read either Oswald's draft or the letter he typed in her kitchen, yet she "knew" the handwritten letter she found in her living room and later stole, was in fact, the draft of the letter Oswald typed. How many letters did Oswald type? A careful
  12. Are you asking Gene to explain the context in regards to the letter, JFK, Ruth Paine and the FBI in Nov. 1963 because you don't know how they are connected? Seriously?
  13. Posting this here for reference. In defense of an earlier postage mark, " 2" , instead of the assumed "12" we have this juicy little tidbit that was volunteered by Ruth Paine and never, (as far as I can tell), referenced again. It's interesting that she now calls the Mexico Embassy letter a "note" but the previous, and never discussed again, document is a "letter"? Could this "previous letter" have been typed on Nov. 2nd? "This is probably no use to you" is also quite prophetic since they made sure not to go down "this road" in subsequent testimony.
  14. The more I study these two cards, the more I think the Nagell copy was produced via fax or wire and that it is, in fact, the same document as the extant Oswald version. There are three light grey vertical lines on the right side of Nagell version which apparently were introduced by the copy equipment. (Vicinity of "617"). The images, in the Nagell version, have been stretched horizontally and so that "copy" no longer retains the same "aspect ratio". Older style facsimile machines which used a rolled paper stock were notorious for stretching the images transmitted. Pictured:
  15. The irony about that is that Tommy Graves and I identified two camps north of New Orleans in a thread on this forum nearly two years ago. We used police reports, witness statements, previous research by Garrison's investigators and Google Earth. No sonar needed. We could have given them the current street address of two of those locations if they'd have just asked.
  16. Ok. How do we know he didn't remove traces of the circles too? There is a mark to the left of the "P" where there should not be a mark that could relate to the "2" in "23".
  17. Here's a link that displays the ID and some of the other items that have been stained:
  18. per the Reg.s we posted earlier, not less than 30 days or more than 6 years. The "series" of cards were numbered sequentially and the timing simply depended on when the format or layout of the form changed.
  19. My apologies Anna, Yes, we agree. Our best guess (from this thread) is that the card was originally created as a "one off" to only be used to get the passport. We were trying to figure out if Oswald could have acquired the un-laminated card on his own or if he must have had some assistance.
  20. Black Market? Because they kept these cards supposedly in "the vault" and inventoried by number. You think they were easy to get? I posted the Regs in this thread a few messages back.
  21. As someone who carried this card, what do you think the chances are that a Marine could "steal" one and use it to get a US passport while he was still assigned to a Separation Unit?
  22. By the way, welcome to the Forum! The "blood stains" are actually residue left over from the FBI investigation. I don't know if they were trying to reveal fingerprints or hidden information but many of the items in the wallet all now have the same blotches all over them. This "process" that was done on the items after they were photographed undamaged when they were found.
  23. That photo is really black and white - the tinge of green isn't on the card itself and the photograph isn't of a sufficient resolution to see the detail on the high resolution color photo. The Oswald ID would have been immediately taken away from him by any Military Guards on any US base - (I did that too!) it wasn't laminated.
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