Ian Kingsbury

On 9/17/2020 at 7:41 AM, Chris Barnard said:

Indeed - both the vids are worth a watch if you have time. They cover both with the theory that one South Knoll shooter fired twice inflicting two wounds, one through the windshield and another through a gap that opened up. Its interesting when you consider the angle of the car, the cars position and where JFK is positioned/facing. Its like the Zapruder film plays a mind trick on you.  

I cannot get my head around the fact that a Hunter or trained assassin would purposely fire through an angled piece of toughened glass and still hope to maintain the accuracy required?

There is also the possibility the Sixth Floor sniper was a cop, as that would explain why he was in no hurry to leave and that the plan was to just blend in with those searching the building after it was sealed.

Hey Bill, just a theory but considering witness testimony of there being two men seen in the windows, and the reports of the "fake" SS agents in and around the building and the two unidentified "plain clothes" coming down the stairs. I'm thinking it was a classic sniper team. Shooter and Spotter. The Shooter hides the weapon and the spotter rearranges the boxes to resemble a fighting position and frame "the patsy". This gives them time to complete both actions and then head down the stairs. They split up, one goes out the back and one goes out the front. If they encounter anyone they can show their ID and blend in and walk away. Would you be suspicious if a you encountered a stranger and they flashed a badge and asked for a phone? Brilliant.

Chris

This is similar in nature to Dougherty's "FBI " man , and only the timing

And the oddness of Dougherty's testimony as to when it occured.

Also if Baker sticks to his first day affadavit and the brown jacket guy was there

This could be connected to Denhams discovery of a man "acting suspiciously"

On the 3rd floor, as reported by Trantham in his HSCA report.

Bill

If we eliminate all but "strangers" in the TSBD at the time and places

We have put them it leaves Jack Edwin Dougherty.

And we know very,very little about him!

Where do you start?

Ian

Theres is no peice of evidence that will convince YOU!

And never will be.

Almost correct no proof in 1963

Less proof of Oswalds guilt now

And the AARB DID NOT HAPPEN DAVE!

Have you found out who pm is yet!

All the kings horses and all the kings men

Humpty dumpty sat on a wall

Could not put Humty together again

Humpty dumpty had a great fall

In the correct order is a rhyme

Otherwise they are just STATEMENTS

Personally i think he was pushed

How many people did Truly vouch for?

I think they would have to admit that Bill Hicks was correct

"No fkin Oswald in the window"

sample frame

Robin,

Thank you so much for uploading these higher-quality frames from Darnell.

I certainly will not be renaming Prayer Man 'Prayer Woman', because the frame above puts the matter pretty much beyond doubt:

This is Lee Oswald.

The womanly appearance is due to the fact that

a ) his sleeves are rolled up;

b ) the eye is confusing the back of a woman's head with part of Lee's torso.

Here's the woman in question's lower leg and foot:

If you place your finger to the screen to cover where her head should be, the chief source of the 'Prayer Woman' illusion becomes apparent.

This is Lee Oswald.

Just look at the hairline.

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And speaking of hairlines, this frame tells us something else:

Buell Wesley Frazier knew--knows--Lee is innocent.

Someone urgently needs to show this image to him.

Sean

Somebody should show this to the public and let them decide?

BWF will speak through others from now on or suffer a nasty "accident"

Ian

Robert

Have you read this thread?

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19782&hl=%2Bdesham+%2Bdenham#entry263986

Ian

I have sent Gerda a pm !

Or a camera lens?

Sean

Both Baker and Truly knew Oswald was "in the building" therefore they could put him

Anywhere they wanted by shift the witness evidence to not conflict too much with thier story.

What this does is add more weight to the fact that the 3rd/4th floor

"Arrest" by Denham did occur!.

This also supports the twin evidence we see with Braden and Florer and the two sets of tramps.

Also remember Braden said in his HSCA. Evidence that they were bringing out

The rifle holding it by the STRING!

A quick shift of evidence can move the time and location or by ommiting it altogether helps their official story.

Ian

According to Armstrong and Bakers first day affadavit there was a meeting on the third

Or fourth floor involving Truly and a man in a tan jacket.

Officer Denham arrested a man on the third/fourth floor acting suspiciously

Also seen by sawyer and officer Hill and is in Trenthams report!

FLORER/BRADEN were apprehended acter third floor incidents.

If they can switch floors how much more difficult to switch buildings?

Denham was on traffic at Elm and Houston is there a mix up useful to

Confuse like all the double evidence we see right through this case?

If prayer man is Oswald then Baker did not recognise him on three occassions

The stairs outside ,the lunchroom and sitting next to him when giving his

First day affadavit?. And why would Truly run ahead of an officer with gun drawn

Whilst he could possibly encounter a gunman coming down. He could have been caught

In a crossfire himself. Unless of course he knew something at that time others did not.

In absence of a veiw at other research on this matter.

Are some assuming its not Oswald because :-

He has to get to the lunchroom so Baker can avoid the man on the 3rd/4th floor?

He could not be there and on the 6th floor as the same man is seen just after the shots

He had just arrived from the grassy knoll?.

Oswald mentions guiding someone to a payphone?

Ray

Thankfully you are right.

But this does not exclude those characters from attacking this site or its members

I see it as a indication of the green eyed monster in themselves.

Ian

Moderators

As there are no "aliases here" we all have to use our real names.

Would it be prudent to discuss the matter of those pseuds

That do exist.

If this type of discussion is banned here please remove this post.

Thank you

Ian kingsbury

Duncan

Is there a particular thread or do we have to wade through them all?

All i get is the photographic page not a thread

Ian

I am not sure if its the same guy.

Are there pictures of the scientists?

Scientists? Plural???

Thomas

This is where I found my Moskalev and Oak ridge connectionhttp://www.hss.energy.gov/healthsafety/ohre/roadmap/histories/0468/0468toc.html

Ian

Bill

thanks for the extra info.

Ian

Ian, what's the Oak Ridge connection to Moskalev? Is he mentioned in that report? Maybe I just didn't see it.

Thanks, BK

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Bill

Goldman says Moskalev visited him in 1960 ,whilst Goldman was connected to Oak ridge before before and during the whole of the sixties. Moskalev was interested in whole body radiation counters

He photographed Goldmans own detector.

The Russians were experimenting with radiation of different elements

I.e. Radium and strontium. The U.S. we're using beagles the Russians were using humans!

Ian

Ps if be could photograph equipment he would have no trouble gaining access

To Oak ridge !

Can anyone tell me if Michael Brownlow's Shattered Friday is available on line?

Thanks,

Bill

Found this

The two-tape set "Shattered Friday" has a total of six witness interviews,

relatively balanced, though interviewer Mike Brownlow (who was in Dealey

Plaza with his aunt at age 8 at the time of the assassination) sometimes

spends a bit too much time expounding his own theories to the

witnesses--usually, fortunately, AFTER they have given their accounts. The

tapes were done with the participation of researchers Steve Allred (who ran

the camera) and Bill Pulte (one of the lesser-known shining lights in the

field). Brownlow and Pulte knew a great many Dallas police officers, and

were able to interview them more easily than most. Some highlights:

Tape One (88 min.):

Ted Calloway: Unhesitatingly identifies Oswald as the man running from the

Tippit scene. Brownlow (an associate of Robert Groden) has, over the years,

interviewed EVERY Tippit witness, and believes now that Oswald was the

shooter of Tippit, but not of JFK. Calloway said the man carried a revolver

and wore a light jacket. (At a later point, Brownlow mentions that a dark

blue jacket was found in the alley down which the gunman ran, in addition to

the jacket found in the parking lot--a lot in which Tippit had earlier been

parked for a short time.).

Officer B.W. Hargis: Didn't recognize the first sound as a shot; second shot

louder; didn't know where the shots came from; saw no gun; based on JFK's

movement, he guessed shot from the right and rear; there was no Badgeman;

knew Roscoe White; White was there, searching the area behind the knoll when

he was; saw the black lady who had been having lunch run away (confirming

what Marilyn Sitzman said); no shots from the manhole area; no fan of LBJ.

Waitress at Austin's Barbecue (name withheld, off-camera): knew Tippit, who

moonlighted doing security work at Austin's; saw Ruby and Tippit having

coffee together a week or a week and a half before the assassination;

Officer Owen Martin, a Tippit partner, came in at 12:15 or 12:30 on Nov. 22,

expecting Tippit to join him for lunch [official accounts say Tippit had

lunch with his wife at 11 that day; Tippit's former partner, Bill Anglin,

told Brownlow that he and Tippit had coffee at 11 that day at the Rebel

Drive-In, Tippit couldn't have been home at lunch at the time; Tippit told

Anglin he was meeting another officer for lunch, confirming what Martin told

the waitress]; Martin left suddenly, about five minutes after he came in,

after getting a radio call [likely word of the shots in Dealey Plaza]; at

various times, the patrons at Austin's included Oswald, Max Long (who

operated an organized crime "safe house" on 10th, as confirmed by Dale

Myers), Officer Harry Olsen, Bill Anglin, Owen Martin (Tippit's two former

partners), Officer Jimmy Stewart, and Officer Mosely; she saw Johnnie

Witherspoon, a fellow waitress, with Tippit on some occasions; she doesn't

believe Witherspoon's husband Steve shot Tippit, totally out of character

for him; Witherspoon's son resembled Tippit more than Steve; Marie Tippit

made a scene at Austin's about a week and a half after the death of her

husband, after learning that Johnnie had put flowers on J.D.'s grave (Roscoe

White had mentioned this to Brownlow as well, in 1971); Marie knew of

Tippit's affair with Johnnie; Harry Olsen was there with Tippit about once a

week; when she saw Oswald there, he was talking in a foreign language with a

man in his 40s (unfortunately, Brownlow didn't show her a photo array--just

guessed that the man was DeMohrenschildt); Jack Ruby came in sometimes, kept

trying to get the waitresses to come to work for him; Johnnie Witherspoon

lived on 10th St. in 1963 (something she has denied to researchers, but some

police officers had confirmed this to Brownlow as well); Tippit was friendly

and reliable; he sometimes brought his son Alan to work with him (maybe

that's how Marie got wind of Tippit's relationship with Johnnie the

waitress).

Tape Two (53 min.):

Malcolm Summers: two shooters, no shot from the drain; smoke on the knoll.

Earnest Brandt: didn't see the head shot impact, as he was running to hide

behind a tree [hadn't mentioned this previously, at his wife's urging];

first shot happened just after JFK passed his position; limo brake lights

were on, but only for a second; had no idea at the time where the shots came

from; he and John Templin ran up to the Pergola to see if anyone from firing

from behind it, saw no one back there.

Austin Miller (one of the men on the Triple Overpass): a man tried to join

them on the overpass, but was turned away from police, as only railroad

employees were allowed there; he saw debris fly up from the pavement at the

time of the first shot, between the JFK and LBJ vehicles, about 15-20 ft.

behind the JFK limo, thought it was part of "the firecracker."

Still looking for vids

Ian

Is there a non highlighted version I cannot read the yellow on white

Was this on a black background at first.

Black on white is fine !

Kathleen

Have you compared to this one?

http://phayemuss.wordpress.com/2010/04/

Ian

P.s Sorry it's quite a way down the page!

Carlier? And Mr Krusch the man you ran a mile from

Why not just read the article I posted for the limited purpose it was written. I.E., Krusch himself is saying the Sniper's Nest was largely constructed by people other than Oswald. This makes it EASIER for Oswald to have done the things I think he did on 11/22, because an already-in-place "Nest" (to a large degree) was already there on the southeast side of the 6th Floor for him to use as a shield.So why are you attempting to diss me in some way on this subject? ~shrug~

David

I am not trying to Diss you but you have a terrible time trying to explain

How the "killer" got away .

You do not see the humour in this episode.

It had to be Oswald because ......and never anything else

Everybody on the stairs was wrong?.

Constructing Oswald's Sniper's Nest

And Mr Krusch the man you ran a mile from.

How many twisted testimonies does take to put Oswald in the window?

David how did the killer get down the stairs without being seen

By ANYBODY?

Who was Jack Edwin Dougherty anybody seen a picture?

Was he interviewed by anybody other than the W.C.?.