Bernice Moore

THANKS ROBERT.AND BILL...B

lbj's announcing the texas trip 43 days it says before kennedy agreed to the trip... :blink:from Newcomb info..

Bill; this one says freight elevator, now changed to a customer elevator..??

thanks jack and martin, can you post your photos any larger martin, please..?? bill here is one of the customer elevator inside the lobby or so it said...fwiw...b

http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/Photos SCROLL DOWN A WEE BIT/ B. RFK Grand Jury Request Exhibits Photographs used as exhibits in the 1992 Request to the Los Angeles County Grand Jury, requesting a review of the Robert Kennedy assassination. The photos relate to the issue of a "second gun" in the pantry. RFK Assassination Photos This set of photographs comes from the California State Archives and was donated to the MFF by the Assassination Archives and Research Center.

Edwin Walker Documents http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

I BELIEVE THEY AREOF THE SAME ELEVATOR BILL..THESE WERE FOUND AT THE MF SITE, AND IF I RECALL ALL THERE WERE,I AM NOT SURE IF THEY ARE NEXT TO EACH OTHER, I WILL HAVE ANOTHER SNOOP AROUND. ..B

ONE OF THE REAR ELEVATOR OUTSIDE SHAFT.STAIRWELL AREA....B

BILL SOME PHOTOS ELEVATORS ETC...IF OF ANY USE, SOMEONE MAY HAVE A PHOTO OF THE CUSTOMER ELEVATOR...B

BILL I DO NOT HAVE ANY PHOTOS OF THE CUSTOMER ELEVATOR, ONLY THE FREIGHT ELEVATORS, IF OF ANY USE..??SOME INFO BELOW... http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/08-Parks-36-items/first.reports Jack C. Cason, president of the depository, said the sixth floor was used solely as a "dead storage" area. It was stacked about eight feet high with books. Cason, who left the scene about 30 minutes before the president's caravan rode down Main Street, said the firm often had difficulty finding employees who had fallen asleep amidst the stacks of books. "Sometimes it will be three or four days without anybody going up to the sixth floor to get anything," Cason said. He said the "dead storage" area was used to keep books already stocked in the basement and on the second and fourth floors. Only when they ran out of copies there does anybody generally go to the sixth floor. Cason said the killer was apparently "well aware" of the building's layout because there was no elevator that goes up to the sixth floor from the front entrance. He would have had to get off the elevator on the fourth floor, walk to the back of the building and get the stairs or one of the two freight elevators on the sixth.

FROM AN OLD POST ON RICH'S FORUM..The Dealey Plaza Signs : Emmett E Hudson "Whitewash ....The Report on the Warren Commission".1965.......page 44.. Harold Weisberg. ""Six months and a day following the assassination.( May.23/64 ) the Warren Commission had the FBI photographic agent, Lyndal L.Shaneyfelt ( 5 H 138 ) do a photographic re-enactment. The report indicates no reason for such a prolonged delay. The Secret Service had completed it's re-enactment by Dec. 5. 1963. It is difficult to imagine that the Commission could have loaded Mr.Shaneyfelt with more invalidating conditions.. His re-enactment could only serve one purpose...to try and make credible a reconstruction under which the Commission's thesis, that all the shots came from the sixth floor window, might be possible..In fact, he attempted nothing else…..In order to accomplish this, he had to show that no shot was fired before the frame numbered 210 on the Zapruder film.. To begin with, Shaneyfelt had to work with a black-and-white copy of the original Zapruder colour film. Necessarily, the copies were less clear. Then the reenactments began at 6 am as a concession to traffic. Between the time of the year and the time of the day differences between the mock-up and the real thing, al the values of shadows in photographic intelligence were forfeited, For the precise placing of the camera, mounted on the rifle, and other measuring devices Shaneyfelt had the information supplied by the Commission. He was working in fractions of degrees, yet he had to bade everything on "information furnished us by the Commission, photographs taken by the Dallas Police Department immediately after the assassination....." 5H145....... Snip: None of the photos of such are or were in agreement with each other nor the facts, as the testimony also shows...."which none of them at the moment of the assassination showed, this was an immediate and total disqualification of anything he might try... No matter how fine and expert Shaneyfelt, no matter how excellent his equipment or how careful his associates, his testimony and reconstruction could have no validity".. “For example, Example Exhibit 887 ( R99) is a camera mounted atop the rifle pointing westward from the sixth-floor window. The window is raised several inches higher than it was shown in the Dillard photograph. Of necessity the rife is mounted on a photographic tripod. But there can be only one necessity for fudging on the window--- to make the whole reconstruction possible where otherwise it would not have been. The tripod is adjustable. The rifle is inside the window. With such an obvious flaw, the exhibit is invalid as is any testimony based on it..Another photograph of the re-enactment printed on page 41 of Life Magazine for Oct. 2,1964, shows that part of the reconstruction was made with the window entirely open...This picture shows the ballistic expert resting his arm on a box incorrectly positioned . It is much too far to the west.... Worse, the rifle is without it's telescopic sight. Can any testimony based upon this reconstruction have any value ?" Snip...page 45... "" In addition, the experts “duplicated certain frames of the Zapruder film" and of two others available to the Commission. These appear in the Report on pages 100-8 and are readily available for inspection. Not a single on can be called a duplication, as the most superficial inspection, even without instruments, will show. The angles are grossly different. The elevations are radically wrong. Even the backgrounds are not the same. One of the best examples is the critically important frame 210 (R102) . These are printed side by side and it will be no problem for any doubting reader to satisfy himself. This particular illustration is also proof of another inexcusable fault: The landscaping in the background has been altered..... Valuable intelligence was thus lost........ In other cases trees which served the same purpose were removed and even the vital signs that figure in all of this identification and testimony were both moved and removed..It is no longer possible to make the most precise photographic reconstruction of the assassination because of this destruction and mutilation of evidence.........."' Continued.. "Whitewash 11..The Report on the Warren Commission"........Harold Weisberg 1966.. Page 4...... "The Commission staff was not unaware of this, for although there is no indication it ever heeded it's own unavoidable proof or wondered why anyone would dream of destroying evidence in the assassination of an American President, the whole story was blurted out by Emmett E.Hudson, ( witness to the killing )groundskeeper of Dealey Plaza, in his belated testimony of July 22,1964, almost two months after the Commission had originally scheduled the end of it's work..( first mentioned page 45..WhiteWash.) . Not only were the hedges and shrubbery trimmed, thus destroying all the projection points essential to photographic analysis, but all the road signs absolutely vital in any reconstruction had been moved-------All Three Of Them--------Zapruder had filmed over the top of the center sign ( Stemmons) ..Two of the signs were entirely removed. The one over which Zapruder filmed was replaced, and there is no reason to believe it's replacement is in exactly the same location in the ground or at exactly the same height above it. Unless both of these conditions, plus the angle of the sign toward Zapruder's lens , were exactly identical with conditions when he took his pictures, no precise reconstruction is possible.. All this funny business with the signs got on the record by accident, not through the dilligence of the Commission or it's counsel. Wesley J.Liebeler was questioning Hudson. Not until eight months to the day after the assassination, but finally Hudson was being questioned. He volunteered this testimony: "Now, they have moved some of those signs. They have moved that R.L. Thornton Freeway sign and put up a Stemmons sign ".....It was this "Stemmons" sign over which Zapruder photographed. "They have? They have moved it?" Liebeler asked, his cool nonchalance preserved in cood type. "Yes, sir." replied Hudson. "That might explain it", Liebeler then said. at the same time, without even seeming so to intend, preserving for both the Commission and history the certain knowledge that the two photographs about which he was interrogating Hudson, one taken at the time of the assassination and the other after it, were not in agreement. ....And here the accidental interest of the Commission in the destruction and mutilation of the most essential evidence ended".................. Page 130: "When Hudson reaffirmed his testimony ( and the landscaping also was altered, with the destruction of essential photo-intelligence and analysis reference points in the backgrounds of the pictures)..., the complacent assistant counsel replied, ""That might explain it, because this picture here, No 18, was taken after the assassination and this one was taken at the time----No. 1.."" The "after" refers to the official reconstruction of the crime!.....Hudson's unanticipated blurting out of what is obvious from the most cursory examination of the photographs evidence marks the beginning and the end of the Commission's interest." *--------*-------*--------*-------* Here is some info from Jack ..... ""in the sixties all such highway signs were 3/4 inch marine plywood, not aluminum like today. In fact, some of the very old plywood signs are still in use in a few places where they have not needed updating. One thing very odd about the Stemmons sign is that it has NO ANGLE IRON BRACING on the back. Back in the 80s I checked a lot of the plywood signs, and virtually all I could find had angle iron braces, especially if larger than four feet by eight feet, because any splices had to be braced. I have never been able to get exact dimensions anywhere on the size of the Stemmons sign. Does anyone know?"" Jack ""the sign was 4-feet X 8-feet"", ........I have read on the web.....? Current Section: Exhibit CE 875 shown to Emmett Hudson.. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId=139712 Mr. LIEBELER - There are two signs in picture No. 18, one says, "R.L. Thornton Freeway, keep right." and the other one says, "Fort worth Turnpike, keep right." Mr. HUDSON - There were two of them that wasn't too far apart right through here - them signs was - one was right along in here and the other one was either further up, I guess. It's not in that picture - I don't believe. Now, they have moved some of those signs. They have moved the R.L. Thornton Freeway sign and put up a Stemmons sign. Mr. LIEBELER - They have? They have moved it? Mr. HUDSON - Yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER - That might explain it, because this picture here, No. 18, was taken after the assassination and this one was taken at the time - No. 1. http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/hudson.htm Below, Emmett Hudson, in Muchmore…frame….White Hat on the middle left on steps and then sitting on the ground after the assassination… WC recreation photos…shown to Hudson….Signs.. Hudson.an..in.Muchmoore.. The Dillard photo….re the Alyea…information. Hits to Dealey.... How many shots could there have been ? The SS called them a “flurry “ of shots..that came into the limo.. Roy H. Kellerman- Possible hits and misses… A hit to Elm street behind the motorcade, sounded like a backfire..fireworks.... A hit to the south side sewer cover..DSD Eddie (Buddy).Walthers…..DMD Ed Brewer.. Two furrows in the grass south side, across from fence.. Edna & Wayne Hartman A hit to the north sidewalk..Aldredge, .reported to FBI….DMNews Carl Freund ..photo.. Not mentioned in WR.. A hit to the curb south side, Tague hit. A hit to the Stemmons Freeway sign ..no reports rumours.. A last missed shot , after President hit…… Royce G.Skelton, puff of concrete off right fender also DSD Eddie (Buddy) Walthers.. Possibly Tague hit…hit pavement in the left or middle lane..concrete knocked to the south away from the car… Mrs. Caroline Walther..and possibly more shots,,..not called by W/C..name not within.. but statement made available….WC Vol 24 Hit to the President entrance front neck.. Hit to the President’s back. Hit to the President front temple Hit to the President left temple Hit to John Connally in his right side back. Hit to John Connally to the wrist. Hit frontal…to the X100 windshield.,,could be neck entrance shot. Hit to limo dash board.. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From the Warren Commission section 9...Paragraph H.. Summary and Conclusions.. “”(h) After careful investigation the Commission has found no credible evidence either that Ruby and Officer Tippit, who was killed by Oswald, knew each other or that Oswald and Tippit knew each other. Because of the difficulty of proving negatives to a certainty the possibility of others being involved with either Oswald or Ruby cannot be established categorically, but if there is any such evidence it has been beyond the reach of all the investigative agencies and resources of the United States and has not come to the attention of this Commission. “” Had they not possibly known there was, or been so positive that there had not been a conspiracy……They would not have had any reason to have made the above statement, and in some way left it open ended.. in the first place….. This was admitting to such, some would say…. http://www.jfk-assassination.de/warren/wcr/page22.php “Pictures don’t lie, unless they are made to “.. Harold Weisberg….. Page 1,,”Whitewash 2 “

The Creation of the Warren Commission by Donald Gibson CTKA PROBE Magazine Volume 3, No, 4 May-June 1996 Most of the people who have done research on or are knowledgeable about the performance of the so-called Warren Commission are convinced that a number of its members and counsel played an important role in the post-assassination cover-up. Those seriously interested in its work, including the author, are convinced that the commission's oversights, distortions, and other shortcomings represent something that is explainable only in terms of the intentions of people such as Allen Dulles, John J. McCloy, J. Lee Rankin, and Gerald Ford. Although a massive amount of work has been done on the Commission's performance, the story of how the Commission was created has remained incomplete. This story needs to be completed because both reason and the facts indicate that the formation of the Commission, like the performance of elements of the FBI and the media, was as much a part of the cover-up process as was its Report. Continued: http://www.ctka.net/pr596-gibson.html

not what your looking for but, dulles and lbj.and the 36th....b

http://vincepalamarasecretservicejfk.blogspot.com/2010/08/former-federal-agent-whos-not-pussy.html vince palamara blog; article on fbi agent donald adams b scroll down...

the johnson treatment...b

BULLET HOLES IN THE LIMOUSINE AND EXTRA BULLETS... COPY THIS INTO YOUR GOOGLE AND IT COMES RIGHT UP... ?B

HI BILL;MILTEER SHOULD HAVE BEEN ARRESTED AND CHARGED NOT RELEASED BUT. YES I WONDERED WHY WHOMEVER DID NOT ASK THE QUESTIONS...DUH... PERHAPS SOMEONE HOPEFULLY WILL CONTACT HIM, THOUGH VINCE DEALS WITH SSA MAINLY PERHAPS HE MAY, I WILL MAKE SURE HE RECEIVES THE INFO..I DID A SEARCH IN THE FILES, BUT HAVE NOTHING ON HIM, NO PHOTO, NOT A WORD SO FAR, BUT WILL CONTINUE, .HOPE ALL IS WELL, TAKE CARE.PLEASE EXCUSE THE CAPS....B.. and THANKYOU MR HOGAN

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JFK'S RECEPTION IN EUROPE ; TIME MAGAZINE http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,875007,00.html?xid=rss-mostpopularemail

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/146/782/Retired_FBI_Agent_Claims_Oswald_Absolutely_Did_Not_Kill_JFK.html b

A FEW OTHERS OF LHO'S CUBBY HOLE...B

HI JIM; YES HE DOES; HERE ARE A COUPLE TAKEN FROM WITHIN THE TEXAS THEATRE, DURING THE TUSSLE FROM WHAT YOU CAN SEE OF HIS EXPRESSION, I THINK IT WAS A ROUGH HOUSING,AND FROM SOME DESCRIPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN IN BOOKS, ETC, THERE ARE ALSO SOME OTHERS TAKEN AT THE DPD THAT SHOW HIM PRETTY ROUGHED UP IMO...PLEASE EXCUSE THE CAPS.....B

REPORT CARD ON IDENTIFCATION OF LHO..AND ARREST WARRANT....B

LHO COMPLAINING; FROM A VIDEO FRAME, I BELIEVE.NOTE TIME ON THIS ARREST REPORT... .B

LOL. Oh, sure. His face was bloodied and "smashed up" to an absolute pulp by those evil DPD bastards, wasn't it Lee? I can hardly tell that it's Oswald at all here, his face is so pulp-like. Get real: So is yours. I can see through you like a great-big ol' sheet of Reynold's Wrap. LOL LOL LOL Putting words in people's mouths again eh, Dave? I never said "to an absolute pulp." He had a long bruised cut on his head. He had a bruised a slightly cut nose that was bringing up two "panda" black eyes and his left eye was quite badly swollen and cut. He also had a bad bruise on the back of his right neck. He was wearing a sweaty and dirty t-shirt and he gave his real name and where he worked. You're right. Who would ever pick Oswald out of this lineup; LEE; HERE IS THE SIDE VIEW... B