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Saundra Kay Spencer is on record as having developed the extant autopsy photos.
One problem...in her 6/4/97 ARRB testimony she stated:
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Q: Did you ever see any other photographic material related to the autopsy in addition to what you have already described?
A: Just, you know, when they came out with some books and stuff later that showed autopsy pictures and stuff, and I assumed that they were done in—you know, down in Dallas or something, because they were not the ones that I had worked on.
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So the woman on record as having developed the autopsy photos denies having developed them.
Concerning autopsy protocol there's this:
HSCA vol 7
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Among the JFK assassination materials in the National Archives is a series
of negatives and prints of photographs taken during autopsy. The deficiencies
of these photographs as scientific documentation of a forensic autopsy have
been described elsewhere. Here it is sufficient to note that:
1. They are generally of rather poor photographic quality.
2. Some, particularly close-ups, were taken in such a manner that
it is nearly impossible to anatomically orient the direction of view.
3. In many, scalar references are entirely lacking, or when present,
were positioned in such a manner to make it difficult or impossible
to obtain accurate measurements of critical features (such as the wound
in the upper back) from anatomical landmarks.
4. None of the photographs contain information identifying the victim;
such as his name, the autopsy case number, the date and place of the
examination.
In the main, these shortcomings bespeak of haste, inexperience and
unfamiliarity with the understandably rigorous standards generally
expected in photographs to be used as scientific evidence. In fact,
under ordinary circumstances, the defense could raise some reasonable
and, perhaps, sustainable objections to an attempt to introduce such
poorly made and documented photographs as evidence in a murder trial.
Furthermore, even the prosecution might have second thoughts about
using certain of these photographs since they are more confusing than
informative. Unfortunately, they are the only photographic record of
the autopsy.
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The autopsy photos are worthless.
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Height photos such as the ones shown above are taken only to show the height. Not the size of the head, so trying to judge the size of a head from one of them is futile.
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If Os had two jackets on how did Bledsoe manage to see a hole in the elbow of his shirt?
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Who was responsible for filling the unopenable Minox in evidence, and when? And why?
I believe I already know the answer to my last question. LOL.
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In Liverpool, I had just arrived at the bar where I worked part time, when we heard the dreadful news on the radio. The bar immediately fell quiet, and a Catholic customer said a prayer for JFK' soul.
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2 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:
I'd like to hear from the T3 denialists myself. But since I don't....
My guess is that it has to do with the autopsy photo showing no wound at T3. As I see it, you can either believe that the photo was doctored, or that somehow the shirt rode up. I have no trouble whatsoever concluding that the photo was doctored. But for some reason some people just can't believe that happened. And so they force themselves into accepting that the shirt rode up.
I'm pretty sure that the reason they don't respond to your posts, Cliff, is because they know it could only end in you and them arguing endlessly.
Sandy, the incredible thing about the shirt lifters (if you'll excuse the expression) is that they believe that both the shirt and the jacket both rose up the same amount.
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1 hour ago, Mathias Baumann said:
Douglas,
this is from "The Last Investigation", page 10:
Sorry Mathias, those photos must have been taken with a light meter. LOL.
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7 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:
I stumbled on this by accident.
You can find a complete copy of Accessories After the Fact by Sylvia Meagher here:
https://www.krusch.com/books/kennedy/Accessories_After_The_Fact.pdf
This is a Vintage Books June, 1992 edition with a 1975 Preface by Senator Richard Schweiker, and an 1975 Introduction by Peter Dale Scott.
Steve Thomas
Thank, Steve. If you remove the title of the book from the log in address you will see a list of other great assassination books and PDFs available.
Well done, Barry.
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Suit jackets have a smooth lining, which eliminates the sticking together of a shirt and the jacket. To think that his shirt and his jacket stuck together like a tortoise shell, stinks of desperation.
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5 hours ago, Andrej Stancak said:
While Mr. Frazier would be able to confirm who Prayer Man was because he stood some 2-3 feet away from this person, I am afraid that Mr. Frazier would not clarify the issue. It may be a memory problem or something else.
Self preservation?
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Looks like the site is down. No response at all.
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Agreed Micah. I'll donate 10$ to any suitable charity or this site to help funding.
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1 hour ago, Paz Marverde said:
Does someone please know how to embed YouTube videos? I have very important stuff to share about, but I don't know how to do it
Hi Paz. Just copy the video address and paste it in the posting area. as I did for the above youtube video
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The "virus" if it exists doesn't affect me when I log in.
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4 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:
Quote by Paul T.
"OK, OK, well, let's look at this 1964 WC testimony then. Here is Walthers telling WC attorney Liebeler about the Dallas Police search of Ruth Paine's garage:
Mr. WALTHERS: ...Then we found some little metal file cabinets---I don't know what kind you would call them---they would carry an 8 by 10 folder, all right, but with a single handle on top of it and the handle moves.
MR. LIEBELER: About how many of them would you think there were?
MR., WALTHERS: There were six or seven, I believe...
So, OK, how did we get from "little metal file cabinets" in his actual WC testimony, to "metal file cabinets" in the 50-year RUMOR that y'all keep spreading?
You showed pictures of metal filing cabinets from eBay or some such up above -- and we all know what a metal file cabinet looks like. You need a TRUCK to move it.
But what is a ""little metal file cabinet"?? Doesn't this simply show that Buddy Walthers was playing fast and loose with the English language? He used the word "CABINET" when he should have used the word "FOLDER". You can still buy metal folders today, by the way. Some have a movable single handle on the top, too. They can hold 100 pages or so. "
Not so Paul. Not all metal file cabinets need a truck to move them. Have a look at this offer.
Most metal card filing cabinets are portable.
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4 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:
Jim,
Thank you for taking the time to respond.
I see where the 599th Field Artillery Battalion was part of the 18th Artillery Group, but not the 599th Ordnance Group.
I'm pretty sure these are different altogether.
Steve Thomas
Steve, Ordnance (as distinct from Ordinance) can also mean artillery, which is what 599th was.
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Weapons and ammunition:
- Military logistics, especially provision of weapons and ammunition
- Ordnance weapon, a personal weapon issued to a member of a military unit
- Aircraft ordnance, weapons carried by and used by an aircraft
- Artillery often in the formal name, e.g. as in Ordnance Survey
- Artillery shells, specifically unexploded ordnance
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Weapons and ammunition:
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Thanks, Douglas. Look forward to seeing the presentation.
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On 9/30/2017 at 5:04 AM, Cliff Varnell said:
For Speer to be correct both the shirt and jacket had to be bunched up 2 inches entirely above T1.
But there is a normal amount of shirt collar visible above the jacket collar in Croft, ergo the jacket collar rested in its' normal position just above the base of the neck.
How could that be possible if there were 4 inches of clothing bunched up above T1?
What we're looking at in Croft is a fraction of an inch of elevated jacket -- David Von Pein recognized this immediately.
This shows what happens when you raise your arm to wave.
http://22november1963.org.uk/single-bullet-theory-jfk-assassination
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Not only was "Umbrella man" suspicious, but he was standing alongside the curbs which had been painted with short yellow lines. (Denoting the killing zone?) Just another coincidence, I guess.
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On 9/8/2017 at 7:07 PM, Sandy Larsen said:
Well sure. I mean it's a two-hand camera. You hold it with two hands. When you think you might take a shot, you raise it to face level with both hands.If PM had nothing in his hands, he would just drop them. He wouldn't keep holding them up like that.
He raised whatever he was holding to face level.
We had a long discussion regarding this in the spring of 2016. Somebody (maybe Chris Davidson) made a very nice animated gif showing prayer man raising the object up to his face. Some said he was drinking a coke. I didn't buy that because men don't drink cokes with two hands.
Unfortunately the gif is no longer there, having been consumed my Photobucket's new policy. However I did find a frame that shows Prayer Man with the object raised up to his face:
(Ignore the rightmost distorted image.)See... PM has raised his right hand more than his left hand, thus rotating the camera to its correct upright position. (His left hand is holding the bottom of the camera to steady it.) The bright spot get's brighter because it is now getting its light from the white ceiling.
The camera user has the choice of looking down into the viewfinder or raising the camera to face level and looking straight into the viewfinder. I showed that to you with this diagram:
Sandy, you've illustrated a Rollei camera. As far as I can remember, the Imperial Reflex didn't have an eye level viewfinder. So there would be no reason for it to be brought up to eye level.
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27 minutes ago, Tom Hume said:
This is apropos of nothing, except maybe Paul’s BYP hypothesis, but I like this anagram of “ROSCOE WHITE”:
“'E' SWITCHEROO”
(In my hypothesis, "E" was the code name for the assassination)
Did Roscoe have a middle name?
Yes, Tom his middle name was "Anthony".
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On 6/9/2017 at 0:35 AM, David Josephs said:
Robin,
I can appreciate what you are saying and the telephoto lens and all, yet this image from Hughes shows that figure closer to the left wall than center handrail.
It's as if he moves to his left throughout.
The bottom right corner of the image is Lovelady not very long after the Hughes image - yet no one stated that he moved from the corner to the middle, only Wesley who claims he was a few steps below him..
It would also appear that Prayerman is directly behind Lovelady in Hughes, or that person is not Lovelady but Oswald/Prayerman, and he simply steps back into the shadows...
Thoughts?
I agree with your comments, David. Lovelady moves from the left side of the top of the steps towards the middle, obviously because he wanted to watch the President's limo as it moved down Elm Street. I agree that behind Lovely, in the Hughes image, is a figure which is probably prayer man.
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Note they didn't interview five important witnesses. I wonder why.
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If that happened, Sandy, wouldn't the text etc., be reversed?
New Article by John Armstrong
in JFK Assassination Debate
Posted
Frazier seems to think that Oswald knew a lot about cars.
What non driver would know about clutches and gears?
Mr. BALL - Do you remember any conversation when he asked you what the clutch was?
Mr. FRAZIER - Oh, yes. We got talking about that. He noticed, you know, most cars as old as mine, you know most of them are standard shift, and when I bought this old car it kind of fooled me it had automatic transmission on it so we got talking about it on the way home driving home and I told him that I really prefer a standard because you know, they are a lot easier to work on and you know, when an automatic goes dead it goes dead, there is no rolling a couple of feet and jumping on the clutch and starting when the battery is down.
And I remember he said it was a little bit different to drive with a clutch. I said, if you are not used to it, but if you get used to it. You have to find a friction point on any car, even on Chevrolet or Ford, you know yourself the friction points on a clutch and the brakes are different adjusted on every car you drive.