Paul Trejo

Jason, Speaking of DPD Chief Jesse Curry -- there's a strange story told by General Walker about him, with regard to Curry's book about the JFK Assassination, which is largely the Dallas Police Radio Log, with his commentary. It's a paperback with 133 pages. The full title is: Retired Dallas Police Chief Jesse Curry reveals his personal JFK Assassination File (1969). Anyway, the story by General Walker goes something like this (very briefly). The year was 1969. Muscle-headed detective, Bradford Angers came to General Walker's door, and said he had a delivery from Chief Curry. Walker let him in the house, sat him down and heard his message. He handed General Walker a package -- a manuscript with Curry's book. The message was that Chief Curry expected General Walker to give him an endorsement, and $10,000 to help him publish the book. Without hesitating, General Walker quickly scanned the book for content. "This is all a bunch of lies!" exclaimed Walker. "You can tell Jesse Curry that he won't get any endorsement from me for this pack of lies! And money! You can tell him to forget it!" Walker explained to the Friends of Walker that only a CT in which the Communists killed JFK, and Lee Harvey Oswald was a pawn in their game, was acceptable to him. By giving in to the Warren Commission Lone Nut theory, DPD Chief Jesse Curry showed a lack of backbone! What a sellout!" So -- according to this story, there is a clash going on. Walker truly believed that Lee Harvey Oswald was arrested by Jesse Curry's men on April 10, 1963, and set free around midnight. He demanded from Jesse Curry many times over the years -- why did you let LHO go? Who was his accomplice? Why won't you help me find him? He is running around loose! Walker's envoy, (Morse or Morris), sought the same answer from Marina Oswald in January 1964. So -- yes -- General Walker was more than a little bit paranoid. He was somewhat off-balance. Jesse Curry thought of him as a kook -- but IMHO they had a deal going before the JFK Assassination. Everything fell apart afterwards, IMHO, because the DPD would not stick to the Communist Plot outcome. That's my reading. All best, --Paul

Jason, You are right that two weeks difference in this enormous saga is very little. The mistake could be mine. I'll table this, and presume it's my mistake for now. In that case, Jason, yes, you've made yet another discovery, i.e. that James Hosty presumed LHO was telling the truth in his letter to the FPCC that he had already handed out FPCC handbills in Dallas in early April or late March. The FBI informant told Alan Belmont that this was a lie, but that fact came out later. Hosty fell for LHO's lie to the FPCC in his letter of 16Apr1963 (per Mary Ferrell). Good job. OK -- where does this leave us? We now have LHO thinking about the FPCC before he goes to New Orleans! This rattles my CT, but no big deal. We go wherever the evidence leads. Next we must ask the same question that Mary Ferrell asked -- Where does LHO get the idea to create his own FPCC movement, and lie to the FPCC about it? Was Guy Banister already in LHO's life while he was still in Dallas? All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, Sometimes it's incredible just how fast you work, and how much data you gather in a short time. Anyway, here are my doubts and my praises for the work you just submitted about Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) and the FPCC in Dallas, before he moved to New Orleans. (A) If it was April, 1963 when LHO wrote that letter to the FPCC, telling them that he distributed FPCC handbills in Dallas wearing a "Viva Fidel" placard, then we have failed. FBI Axxistant Director Alan Belmont gave WC testimony that Dallas FBI agent James Hosty reported LHO's activity in Dallas in March, 1963. That difference is urgent. (B ) There was an FBI informant in Dallas -- a very good one, as Alan Belmont says -- who told the FBI that there wasn't any FPCC activity in Dallas at all. (C) Aside from that, I agree with your premise -- that when James Hosty speaks about Oswald distributing FPCC literature in Dallas, he is surely referring this letter. This letter explains Hosty's report fully. Trouble is -- April is too late. Alan Belmont -- a very reliable source -- said it was March, 1963. Now, the letter itself has no date, and Mary Ferrell *guessed* that the date was April 16, 1963. So, if she was mistaken and the date was really in March, then we have something material. (D) Yet we wouldn't need an FBI informant for this -- the FBI *always* intercepted *all* mail going to the FPCC. This was explicitly told to the WC. Now, regarding your numbered points: 1. I realize that James Hosty told the WC that *he* was the one to say that there was no FPCC activity in Dallas -- but this was a full year later, and I see no reason to trust James Hosty as a witness. 2. James Hosty admitted that there was a report from an FBI informant accusing Oswald of FPCC activity in Dallas -- because Alan Belmont had already told the WC about this. How could Hosty deny it? But in my opinion, that so-called "informant" was Hosty's own research. 3. You cited CE 829 to confirm Hosty's story about a FBI informant accusing Oswald of pre-New Orleans FPCC activity. HOWEVER -- CE 829 is dated September of 1963. That's way too late. It isn't referring to the same incident -- it's some sort of CYA stunt. 4. The letter from LHO to the FPCC (perhaps March, 1963) cannot confirm that LHO was telling the truth. He was writing to Communists -- and LHO often lied to Communists. Remember when LHO wrote to the CPUSA and told them that he had a fight with "gusanos" in New Orleans, but that fight really occurred the week afterwards! Why would LHO lie? Because he was a manipulator, that's why. 5. Mary Ferrell's ascription of a date of 16Apr1963 for LHO's letter to the FPCC is a puzzle -- why does she guess April instead of March? 6. The fact that DPD Sergean Harkness in May 1964 wrote a report about "someone" handing out FPCC literature in Dallas the year before -- that makes him a quisling of James Hosty, IMHO. 7. Carlos Bringuier citing the placard, "VIVA FIDEL" which is mentioned only in LHO's letter to the FPCC, is evidence, IMHO, that Bringuier was also a JFK plotter along with Guy Banister, General Walker and James Hosty. All best, --Paul

Jason, In my reading, the implications of Geneva White (Roscoe White's wife) having a professional connection to Jack Ruby explains a great deal about how Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) was murdered at the Dallas Police station. Roscoe White, as many will remember, was a policeman for Dallas. His boss was Chief Jesse Curry. In my opinion, LHO was supposed to be killed in the street by JD Tippit and Roscoe White, there in Oak Cliff. But something went wrong. At about 1pm, Sheriff Decker, Captain Fritz and their quislings awaited a phone call to the effect that LHO was dead. They already had LHO's rifle, and film of LHO in New Orleans claiming to be a Secretary of the (Communist) FPCC there. They also had evidence, including a "tapped telephone call" of Ruth and Michael Paine, that Marina Oswald and the Paines were likely KGB agents -- so that JFK was killed in a Communist plot. Everything was ready to go. But something went wrong. Instead of LHO getting killed, it was JD Tippit who was killed. At this point, something had to be done to keep LHO secluded from the world, to keep him calm and self-confident, and to hire a hit man to kill LHO at the DPD station. In my opinion, Chief Jesse Curry leaned on his Dallas Policemen to find a hit man they could trust. Several Dallas Policemen knew Jack Ruby -- and this photograph is material evidence that Roscoe White himself knew Jack Ruby personally, and perhaps pretty well. We have some evidence, further, that Dallas Police "worked on" Jack Ruby to bolster him up and convince him to hit LHO at the Dallas Police station (cf. Seth Kantor, Who Was Jack Ruby? 1971). In my reading, there was a first attempt to kill LHO on Friday midnight, during a very short Press Conference, and Jack Ruby was present, but he chickened out for some reason. Finally, on Sunday morning, Jack Ruby completed his favor for the Dallas Police. All best, --Paul P.S. That DMN writer, Frank Trejo, is not my relative, to the best of my knowledge. Nor is the action movie star, Danny Trejo, my relative to the best of my knowledge.

Jason, In my opinion, assembling any material evidence that Dallas FBI agent James Hosty was tracking Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas before the New Orleans period would be a key step in establishing an illicit, Radical Right linkage by Hosty. To start, I will offer part of the WC testimony of FBI Axxistant Director Alan Belmont. The FBI in 1963 had 10 divisions under Director J. Edgar Hoover -- four Investigative divisions and six Administrative divisions. Alan Belmont was in charge of the first four divisions. He supervised the work of James Hosty from a high level. Here is what he testified: Mr. DULLES - ...With regard to the situation in Dallas and later in New Orleans, that after the case was marked closed in Dallas, there was this incident in New Orleans...and then...an open case was started. Now, it wasn't quite clear to me...If you could clear that up for us I think it would be helpful. Mr. BELMONT - The agent, Fain at the time, who handled the case, closed the case after two interviews with Oswald, arriving at the conclusion that the purpose of our investigation of Oswald, which was to determine whether he had been given an xxxignment by Soviet intelligence, had been served. He closed the case, as he felt there was no further action to be taken. The purpose had been satisfied. Headquarters agreed. In March 1963 Agent Hosty received information in Dallas to the effect that Oswald had been in communication with The Worker, the east coast Communist newspaper. He therefore reinstituted the case... Mr. DULLES - That was even before what we call the New Orleans incident? Mr. BELMONT - Correct... Mr. STERN - Question 8, Mr. Belmont, on page 5, sets out the information from a report by Agent Hosty regarding alleged Fair Play for Cuba Committee activity by Oswald while he was still residing in Dallas. Have you found that an investigation was conducted to determine whether that was accurate and do you think it should have been investigated? Mr. BELMONT - As to whether he was active with the Fair Play for Cuba Committee in Dallas? We did check....There is no evidence whatsoever to indicate that he was active with the Fair Play for Cuba Committee in Dallas. Now, this appears to be in March, 1963 -- certainly before the New Orleans period which begins in April, 1963. Belmont does not give the exact date. But notice that WC attorney Stern indicates that Dallas FBI agent James Hosty had "alleged FPCC activity for Oswald while he was still residing in Dallas." Alan Belmont did not deny that report. He says that FBI HQ checked it out, and found James Hosty's allegation to be incorrect. My question is this -- why in the world did James Hosty submit a report in March 1963, alleging that Lee Harvey Oswald was active in the FPCC in Dallas? All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, Reading that account you cited from the Dallas Morning News (5/27/1982), James Hosty is reporting from a spy named "Solo" that Fidel Castro himself told "Solo" that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) told "our people" in Mexico City that LHO wanted to kill JFK for the Communists in Cuba. I will give Hosty's report the benefit of the doubt -- and then seek the identity of "our people" in Mexico City. By my reading, the only people that Fidel Castro had above ground in Mexico City were in the Cuban Consulate -- namely, Sylvia Duran and Eusebio Azcue. Did LHO talk with them? Yes, absolutely -- we have records that LHO spoke with them multiple times -- for long periods of time. We also know that LHO gave them a Fake resumé boasting of LHO as Secretary of a Fake FPCC chapter in New Orleans. LHO tried to get a quick visa into Cuba -- and he told Duran and Ascue that he was a full-fledged Communist, and he wanted to support Fidel Castro by any means possible! LHO even showed them his Communist Party membership card! Of course, Duran and Azcue -- both members of the Communist Party -- were well aware that there was no such thing as a Communist Party membership card! They knew that LHO was full of baloney. They flatly denied LHO any passage to Cuba. LHO kept coming back and insisting -- while Duran and Azcue kept sending him away. So -- yes, based on that historical drama -- I will say that James Hosty, "Solo," and Fidel Castro all told the truth -- and Hosty slanted it to sell to the Dallas public. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, I agree with you, that jumping into a CT is a risky business. H.W. Brands had advised me against it. When there are missing documents, then the Truth could turn out to be ANYTHING. Yet today all the JFK Records Act documents have been released. How many researchers are even looking at a Radical Right connection? I strongly suspect material connections between the Dallas FBI and General Walker. I don't claim to know the answer -- but I don't mind testing a theory with as much material evidence as people can find. The Truth in the JFK Assassination has eluded us for more than a half-century. It's time to end this hangover. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, Yes, Penn Jones Jr. was the one who reported that Dallas FBI agent James Hosty had been the "bridge partner" of Robert Alan Surrey for years in Dallas. Robert Alan Surrey had met General Walker in February 1962, when Walker chose to run for Texas Governor. Surrey helped Walker run his political campaign, became President of Walker's business, the American Eagle Publishing Company, which Walker ran out of his own home, and Surrey set up an office for himself inside Walker's home. Surrey would bring his family over to "uncle Ted's" to volunteer working the mail-order business that paid Walker's bills. When General Walker decided to clash with JFK's Federal Troops at Ole Miss University over the registration of the first Black American, James Meredith, into that college, and personally supervised a racial riot here in which hundreds were wounded and 2 were killed on the night of September 30, 1962, Robert Alan Surrey was right by Walker's side the whole time. Robert Alan Surrey and General Walker were almost inseparable. Surrey and his wife started the John Birch Society chapter that General Walker took over in Dallas -- by their invitation. Surrey was a member of the Dallas Minutemen. Walker was their leader. So -- when Penn Jones Jr. reported that James Hosty and Robert Alan Surrey were bridge partners for years in Dallas, including 1962-1963, this claim, in my opinion, places James Hosty in the same room with General Walker several times during 1962-1963. What were the direct contacts between James Hosty and General Walker in Dallas? Was James Hosty a secret member of the Minutemen? This is what I want to know more about! There must be documents on this! All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, Great work detailing all 6 methods claimed by Dallas Officials to get the 1206 N. Beckley Ave. address on Lee Harvey Oswald -- better than the 4 methods I found. As for Ruth Paine -- the WC asked her pointedly why she didn't give Dallas FBI agent James Hosty the address of Lee Harvey Oswald when he asked for it on November 1, 1963. Ruth Paine testified that she didn't know the address, but she knew the phone number, so that's what she gave James Hosty on November 1, 1963. Ruth Paine added that since James Hosty was with the FBI, she presumed that he could easily find the address of Lee Harvey Oswald by using that telephone number. She says she would have given Hosty the address if she knew it (over Marina's protests), because Ruth Paine always respected the FBI. Finally -- I tend to agree with you that James Hosty would have no problem, from his post in the Dallas FBI, getting an address on any person in Dallas that he really wanted. None at all. The most direct source of the 1026 N. Beckley Ave. address on Lee Harvey Oswald would have been James Hosty, in my opinion. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, Now I'll respond to the final 4 of your concerns about Dallas USPD Inspector Harry Holmes with regard to Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO), and then your 4 questions following: 15. Good point, Jason, about Holmes "recalling" that LHO gave everybody in Captain Fritz's office an edifying lecture about the branches of Communism. Since it is highly unlikly that LHO said any such thing there, it is more likely that James Hosty tried to coach Harry Holmes about what to say. 16. The not-very-random comment that the JFK shots were perhaps meant to "frighten people" is too close to the Sheriff Decker story (according to Gareth Wean, 1971) that the original JFK plot was announced as a "False Flag" attempt, intended only to frighten JFK and the public into attacking Fidel Castro. *** Buddy Walthers also testfied that he thought the shots might be blanks. *** Why would anybody think rifle BLANKS? Firecrackers, OK. But rifle BLANKS? 17. Oddly, USPD Inspectors operate very closely with the Police Department on a regular basis, in the context of Mail Fraud. *** This is the reason that WANTED posters are often posted at Post Offices around the USA, mostly for Mail Fraud cases. *** I also agree with you, Jason, that Harry Holmes seems to be responding to coaching by Hosty or Fritz, to the effect that LHO was a KGB agent with lots of Intel training in the USSR. 18. I further agree, Jason, that when Harry Holmes cannot remember the context of the story he only heard about the Coca-Cola, he concludes, "Well, I know there was a Coke involved somewhere!" *** This is clear evidence that he was being coached by somebody else, and these are not his own memories. Q1. Harry Holmes gets LHO's NOLA PO Box application almost instantly, because the Dallas FBI already has it, and hands it to him. *** Yet Holmes cannot admit this, because actually Holmes got virtually *all* his information from the Dallas FBI -- in the context of the JFK plot. *** So, we get the Harry Holmes fairy tale that he discovered this all by himself. Q2a. It doesn't interest me that LHO's 1962 Dallas PO box application does not name A. Hidell, because one can also supplement those applications with other paperwork to add further names later. Q2b. It doesn't interest me that LHO's NOLA change of address card is not in Oswald's handwriting, because it's easy to ask the clerk to fill out the form. Q3. Regarding the Field and Stream magazine -- the best source for this knowledge would have been the Dallas FBI, I believe. *** The Dallas FBI possibly knew about the Klein's order way back in February, 1963, because they probably (perhaps with Guy Banister) designed that paper trail. *** Without this, Holmes has nothing -- no mail order rifle, no Kleins, no money order, no exact amount, nothing. Holmes was tipped off. Holmes dares not breathe a word about his real sources. His "nameless" secretary brings it to him. Q4. The main issue I have with Oswald's November, 1963 PO box in Dallas is not that it was discovered by anonymous postal clerk, but that it had a Fake Address on it, namely, 3610 North Beckley, instead of 1206 North Beckley. *** Despite this obvious fact, Harry Holmes allegedly called the Dallas Police with the correct address. All best, --Paul

Jason, Yes, James Hosty makes a point in his book Axxignment Oswald (1996) to say that he was Catholic just like JFK. In this regard i'd note that Hosty didn't write his book alone, but his son helped him write it. I get an impression that his son struggled to put the best spin on it. Yet it is impossible to make it look good when actually Hosty's book contradicts his WC so fully. That is, Hosty's book says he suspected LHO and Marina of a KGB plot as early as October, 1963. Yet, Hosty testified to the WC that he didn't tell the PRS about LHO when they asked about dangerous people in Dallas in early November 1963, because he had no reason to suspect LHO. All that said, though it may seem that Hosty was the secretary of the JFK plot, he was no paramilitary expert, like General Walker; and only a paramilitary leader could lead the Dallas Minutemen in the manner required. All best, --Paul

Jason, Here is my feedback on your next 8 "concerns" about the WC testimony of Dallas USPD Inspector Harry Holmes: CONCERNS: 7. In my opinion, Harry Holmes got the New Orleans Louisiana (NOLA) PO Box rental form that he allengedly shoved under the nose of Lee Harvey LHO (LHO) in his last hour of life there at DPD station, from Dallas FBI agent James Hosty. *** The Dallas FBI had been tracking LHO since the Sunday after the Walker shooting (says Dick Russell, 1993l) or perhaps as early as July 1962, on suspicion of being a Marine "defector" to the KGB during the Cold War, and bringing back a Russian Bride to beautiful Dallas/Ft. Worth. *** If so, then when LHO moved to NOLA in April 1963, James Hosty tracked that, too. *** Although Hosly no longer had "jurisdiction," Hosty did have friends in NOLA, for example, former FBI agent turned Radical Right activist, Guy Banister. *** In the 1960's rules of the FBI, there was an "office of origin" for each suspect, and one or more "auxilliary" offices. If a suspect moved away, the new residence city marked the new "office of origin", and the old "office of origin" became an "auxilliary" office. Every "office of origin" will share case files with "auxilliary" offices. This means that when LHO moved to NOLA, James Hosty still had access to all his FBI record and movements, arrests and contacts. *** As an FBI agent of an auxilliary office for the LHO case file, James Hosty had the right to ask for every bit of government data on LHO -- including US Postal records. 8. There were two reasons that Harry Holmes could tell his boss in Washington DC that the Terminal Annex building on Dealey Plaza could not be a sniper location: *** First, because he already knew that the JFK plot had located the action at the TSBD on Elm Street. *** Secondly, because the Terminal Annex building is two blocks from Elm Street -- not a good enough location. 9. Yes, there is ample evidence that LHO subscribed to Russian newspapers besides the testimony of USPD Inspector Harry Holmes: *** The testimony of Marina LHO, which I accept, admits that LHO got Russian language newspapers and magazines on a regular basis *** The testimony of Ruth Paine, which I accept, admits that LHO forwarded several Russian language newspapers and magazines to her Irving address as well. 10. Harry Holmes took special care never to reveal what was said during the “numerous times” that he met with Fritz over the JFK weekend. *** It was too risky to mention. Holmes might slip. *** In my opinion, Captain Fritz invited Harry Holmes to join the "interrogation" of LHO during his last hour of life at the DPD station for the historical reputation.. *** Just as we saw WC testimony from Dallas Police and Deputies, competing for first place at scenes or events with LHO -- there was a real sense of fame of being part of Dallas and US History. *** Holmes or his wife may have requested a place at the table. 11. Harry Holmes most likely got the data about LHO’s fight with Carlos Bringuier in NOLA from Dallas FBI agent James Hosty, who had quick access to all files and records on LHO available in NOLA. 12. Of all the Dallas officials who interviewed the alleged Presidential Assassin during the weekend of 11/22/1963, none of them made formal records of the interviews until WEEKS or MONTHS later. *** During that long period, each of them had plenty of time to coordinate their notes with the others were were part of the interviews -- and the JFK plot. 13. Harry Holmes evades WC attorney Belin’s many questions to establish how LHO got home after the JFK shooting. *** This is because the manufactured story was unclear -- there was too much of it, and it was all evidence of a JFK plot. *** The fake bus ride, the forged bus ticket, the fake bus witnesses, the fake taxi ride, the fake testimony about LHO admitting all this -- way too much. 14. Holmes is the only official who remembered that LHO admitted to going to Mexico City – and all the crucial details that LHO added. *** See my previous post above on this topic. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, OK, that's an interesting theory. In my current CT, George DM (unconsciously) motivates Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) to try to kill General Walker, and this then motivates General Walker and his followers (including Robert Alan Surrey and James Hosty) to begin tracking LHO from Easter Sunday 14 April 1963 through the JFK Assassination. You have thrown a monkey-wrench into my CT by showing that, even if the Klein's Mail Order rifle story is 100% correct -- it is also an obvious paper-trail that no common sense person would do when they could go to a pawn shop and buy a cheap rifle there for cash, and no trace (except for the eye-witness salesman). OK, given that, who advises LHO to create the Klein's Mail Order paper trail? It's a great question. Jeff Caufield, in his recent book, General Walker and the Murder of President Kennedy: the Extensive Evidence of a Radical Right Conspiracy (2015), has argued that General Walker and LHO had a personal relationship as early as February 1963. I sincerely and wholeheartedly doubt that -- and yet I cannot think of any other radical political influences on LHO during that period. So, I must review my notes. NOW -- however -- you have this idea that Guy Banister might have been involved in the life of LHO earlier than April 1963 -- and who would have made that contact? You propose, Dallas FBI agent James Hosty! I did briefly consider that angle -- namely -- that in June, 1962, when LHO and Marina flew into Love Field airport in Fort Worth, the angry eyes of General Walker were watching this desecration of his home town by this "defector" Marine and his Russian Bride. If so, then I might be able to move the date of the Walker/Surrey/Hosty tracking of LHO way back to July, 1962. If so, then we might be able to move the influence of Guy Banister on LHO as early as February, 1963, instead of April 1963. This would again make Guy Banister LHO's handler there in Dallas -- instead of waiting for the New Orleans period. This is an exciting new interpretation of the events, Jason. Great work, as usual. This way, I can still avoid a direct Walker/LHO relationship. This might also explain rumors (which are cited in the WC) about Hosty reporting FPCC activity in Dallas in February, 1963 (IIRC) -- when there was none. This could be Guy Banister and Hosty working together to punk out this Russian-lover. If so -- then I could also meet Jeff Caufield half-way, and propose that the Walker shooting was planned to be a False Flag, by Guy Banister himself! This is getting more interesting by the day. All best, --Paul

Jason, Very briefly for now. The period from February to April 1963 changes the life of Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) forever. However bizarre his life has been up to this point, it becomes positively crazy at this point. Here's my unflattering opinion about Marina Oswald (whom I believe was totally truthful to the WC, even though she panicked when she was first picked up by the FBI, and denied everything to them). In my opinion, the young (teenage) Marina Prusakova, married LHO first and foremost because she wanted a ticket out of Russia to the USA. Her grandmother hated Communism and instilled that hatred into Marina's childhood. All Marina wanted in life was to move to the USA. This was well demonstrated after LHO and Marina flew to the USA in June 1962. Within weeks, Marina became a favorite part of the Dallas/Ft. Worth Russian Expatriate Community (who were all Russian Orthodox, and had nothing to do with Ruth Paine, the Quaker). They showered Marina with clothes and gifts for the baby. Once Marina realized what a poor provider LHO would be in the USA -- and how well-to-do most Russian Expatriates were -- she expressed tangible dissatisfaction. This was amply testified. It was at this point that LHO became insanely jealous. He refused to let Marina learn English. He kept a tight fist on whatever little money they had. He physically threatened at least two of the Russian Expatriates. He told George DM he would "smash the baby crib and tear up all her clothes. LHO (for the first time in his life) began to strike Marina. He then decided to move to Dallas, and got George DM to help him find a new and better job than welding (the job he did in Russia and Ft. Worth). In the meantime, Marina lived here and there with different Russian Expatriates -- in nice homes. LHO loved his job at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall -- but they didn't love him. There is ample WC testimony about this. In February, 1963, Marina met a rich friend who was not a Russian Expatriate, at a house party thrown by a Dallas engineer who was not a Russian Expatriate. This engineer, Everett Glover, didn't even speak Russian, but he had a friendship with Russian Expatriate oil engineer George De Mohrenschildt (DM). Everett was also good friends with Michael Paine for many years, singing in the same Unitarian Choir in Dallas. Anyway, in late February, 1963, Everett hosted a Dallas engineer party at his apartment, inspired by George DM, who offered to bring LHO and Marina out to meet the Dallas engineers (who spoke only English), as a sort of carnival sideshow -- "the freak Marine who defected to Russia and then returned to Dallas with a Russian Bride." Lots of young Dallas engineers attended that party, and showered LHO with eager questions. (Marina was so bored.) Anyway, Everett had known that Ruth Paine wanted more exposure to the Russian language -- and knowing that George and Jeanne DM were Russian Expatriates who spoke fluent Russian (like Marina), Everett invited Ruth and Michael Paine. Michael had a cold that night (and anyway was separated from Ruth at the time) so Ruth went alone. Now, Ruth Paine was college educated, as few Texas women were (and none in Ruth's neighborhood). Also, Ruth had promised God that she would learn Russian to help end the Cold War, so she was considered an oddball in Texas society. Now, here was Marina Oswald -- who spoke aristocratic Russian (learned at her grandmother's knee) and also had a college degree (in pharmacology). Also, when Ruth garbled her Russian conversational language, Marina Oswald was very kind, gentle and supportive, and corrected Ruth's grammar. From that moment on, lonely Ruth decided that Marina Oswald must become her best friend -- heaven-sent. This seems to have changed the dynamic between Marina and LHO. You mention, Jason, that Marina began to contact the USSR about returning to Russia on 17Feb63. We have correspondence between Ruth and Marina during this period that refers all of that to your previous entry, 00Feb63, that she was physically forced by LHO to do that. That's much of their correspondence -- Marina complaining to Ruth Paine that LHO kept threatening to send her back to Russia -- her worst nightmare. Ruth Paine was motivated -- on many levels -- to save her "best friend" Marina Oswald from this horrible fate. In any case -- why was LHO acting so bizarre from February 1963, the month that Marina first met Ruth Paine, through late April 1963, when LHO quickly moved to New Orleans, leaving Marina and baby June at Ruth Paine's house? I don't know yet -- although I completely reject the CIA-did-it scenario. George DM was a self-centered money-grubber, and only helped the CIA translate Russian documents, as far as I can tell. It seems likely to me that LHO is jealous of the Russian Expatriates, and so makes a wild play for control and perhaps a fantasy job as a "double-agent." The key to this post tonight is simply that Marina Oswald said -- honestly, I feel certain -- that when LHO admitted to her that he tried to kill General Walker on Wed10Apr1963, that their relationship was torn in half. It would never heal from that point forward. It was ruined. LHO had become this temper-tantrum wild man, as she saw it, and she wanted out of that relationship. The big trouble was -- Marina was pregnant again. All best, --Paul

Jason, I'll return to the topic of the Walker shooting and the alleged Mail Order rifle later -- after I've reviewed Jeff Caufield's position on this topic. In the meantime, I'll continue my review of your analysis of Dallas USPD Inspector Harry Holmes' WC testimony. All best, --Paul

Jason, Yes, from this explanation, I can agree with this, though it makes a problem for my own CT. I have argued against Jeff Caufield that there could be no personal relationship between Lee Harvey Oswald and General Walker. Yet the most plausible person to direct LHO to create a paper trail for his rifle was, IMHO, General Walker. LHO was not yet in contact with Guy Banister. The main outside contact of LHO at this time was George DM. George hated General Walker, yet would not think of Assassination. George had financial ambitions. So, even at the worst case scenario, George DM would never advise LHO to create a paper trail for a rifle. So...your logic is sound...but it obliges me to rethink my theory about the Walker shooting. This will be a forward step -- however it works out All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, Now I'll respond to the first 6 of your concerns about Dallas USPD Inspector Harry Holmes: 1. Holmes' story about the alleged Money Order (MO) for the alleged Mail Order rifle -- which he claims to have discovered on the day after the JFK Assassination -- is beyond suspicious. *** Why does Holmes suspect a Mail Order rifle? *** Why does Holmes send his secretary seeking a copy of Field & Stream the next morning to find the Mail Order rifle ad? *** BTW, I don't suspect "manufacturered evidence" as you evidently suspect. Instead, I accept the testimony of Marina Oswald -- this was the rifle of Lee Harvey Oswald. Also, I accept the Washington DC analysis of the Mail Order data and MO. *** What I do question -- as you do -- is how Dallas Postal Inspector Harry Holmes got all of this information in a tidy package by lunchtime the next day. *** IMHO, all of this information came from the Dallas FBI, especially James Hosty. Hosty had been tracking Lee Harvey Oswald since 1962 (and we have this in WC testimony). *** It may seem dumb enough for an old guy losing his memory to invent this story, yet it seems more likely to me that Dallas FBI agent James Hosty came up with the story, and taught it to Harry Holmes. 2. It is reasonable to me that Harry Holmes would see DPD motorcycle Officer Marrion Baker running into the TSBD front door. *** First,, Harry Holmes is on the 5th floor of the Texas Annex building -- all the way across Dealey Plaza. So, it would be easy to see. *** Secondly, Marrion Baker is running in the opposite direction of the crowd, which is rushing the Grassy Knoll picket fence area. *** There had to be some facts in his story. 3. I have often thought it was bizarre that this JFK plotter (as I opine) was also watching the JFK action from his office by using high-powered binoculars. It seems to me that there is a little bit too much carefree attitude in Holmes' WC testimony. 4. The flaw in the story about Holmes' postal clerk bringing him the PO box application of Lee Harvey Oswald was exposed in the fact that Oswald entered a fake address on that application (i.e. 3610 N. Beckley instead of 1206 N. Beckley). *** Why does Harry Holmes invent this story anyway? *** In my CT, it isn't Harry who invents the story -- it's James Hosty who invents it, although neither Hosty nor Holmes bothered to look at the fake address that Oswald printed on his PO Box application! 5. I'm delighted, Jason, that you highlight the macabre quality of Dealey Plaza as a potential killing zone. *** The site of the Dallas County Jail, where public executions were historical held; *** The site of the parking lot of Dallas Deputies and officers of the Dallas County Jail, there behind the picket fence of the Grassy Knoll *** The site of the Texas Annex Building, where Harry Holmes manages Oswald's PO box and North Beckley address (as he supposes). *** Why is so much attention given to New Orleans instead of Dallas? Because Jim Garrison brought most evidence of the JFK Truth back in 1968, and he had nobody in Dallas to help him. *** So, we have had comparatively little Dallas data until a half-century later. *** Until 2015 (Caufield), Garrison has been our richest source of JFK CT data. 6. As for Holmes' child-like question, "What is The Daily Worker, sir?” I again believe that James Hosty designed that question and fed it to Harry Holmes. *** My reasoning is that because Harry Holmes was such a simple man, James Hosty chose to capitalize on this fact. *** We have heard of "crazy like a fox." In the South -- when dealing with Yankees -- there is also the case of "ignorant like a fox." *** This was a deliberate case of attempting to appear dumb and bumbling, to eliminate all suspicion of a sophisticated plot to kill JFK there in Dallas. That's my take on it. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, This reminds me of a point that sticks out sharply for me from the WC testimony of Dallas Postal Inspector Harry Holmes about Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) in Mexico City. Let's look directly at the WC testimony: Mr. BELIN. Did he admit that he went to Mexico? Mr. HOLMES. Oh, yes. Mr. BELIN. ...Now, with regard to this Mexican trip, did he say who he saw in Mexico? Mr. HOLMES. Only that he went to the Mexican consulate or Embassy or something and wanted to get permission, or whatever it took to get to Cuba. They refused him and he became angry and he said he burst out of there, and I don't know. I don't recall now why he went into the business about how mad it made him. He goes over to the Russian Embassy. He was already at the American. This was the Mexican -- he wanted to go to Cuba. Then he went to the Russian Embassy and he said, because he said then he wanted to go to Russia by way of Cuba, still trying to get to Cuba and try that angle and they refused and said, "Come back in 30 days," or something like that. And, he went out of there angry and disgusted. Mr. BELIN. Did he go to the Cuban Embassy, did he say or not? Mr. HOLMES. He may have gone there first, but the best of my recollection, it might have been Cuban and then the Russian, wherever he went at first, he wanted to get to Cuba, and then he went to the Russian to go by Cuba. Mr. BELIN. Did he say why he wanted to go to Cuba? Mr. HOLMES. No. Mr. BELIN. ...This wasn't reported in your interview in the memorandum that you wrote? Mr. HOLMES. No. Mr. BELIN. Is this something that you think you might have picked up from just reading the papers, or is this something you remember hearing? Mr. HOLMES. That is what he said in there. Several red sirens go off with this WC testimony. First -- this is not just remembering that LHO mentioned Mexico City in his final hour of life there at the Dallas Police HQ. Instead, Holmes remembers lots of detail -- crucial detail. Are we supposed to believe that LHO would really open up about these details for the Dallas Police? We know that Harry Holmes didn't make this up, because we now have CIA records fully released in 2003 (i.e. the Lopez-Hardway Report) confirming that this is basically what actually happened in Mexico City! Is it reasonable to believe that LHO told Fritz, Sorrels, Bookhout and Holmes this crucial detail from Mexico City, and yet Harry Holmes was the only one who remembered it in great detail? It's more likely, in my reading, that Harry Holmes learned this information from Dallas FBI agent James Hosty, who admitted in his book, A$$ignment Oswald (1996) that he obtained CIA data in October, 1963 about LHO's trip to Mexico City. It's more likely that Harry Holmes learned this Mexico City data from James Hosty, in the company of General Walker, Robert Alan Surrey, Captain Fritz and Sheriff Decker -- all of whom were careful enough to keep that part of their knowledge secret. It was only Dallas USPS Inspector Harry Holmes who let the cat out of the bag. I will add extra praise for WC attorney Belin, who pointedly asked Holmes if he had possibly read that somewhere, and got Holmes to put himself on record, for posterity, by reaffirming about LHO, "This is what he said in there." That was the perjury -- in my reading -- LHO never confessed any such thing; instead, Harry Holmes recalled classified CIA data that he heard from Dallas FBI agent James Hosty, during a secret JFK plot meeting in Dallas. All best, --Paul

Jason, Your post above on Dallas Postal Inspector Harry Holmes is so interesting and rich that I will return to it several times. For this post, I want to underscore something particularly interesting regarding the address of Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) at 1026 North Beckley Avenue in Dallas. The problem jutted out that several different Dallas officials claimed that LHO had given them that address -- but in different locations and instances. 1. Dallas officials in the arresting party claimed that they got LHO's Beckley address in the cop car driving from the Texas Theater. 2. Dallas officials at Police HQ claimed that they got LHO's Beckley address at the station, when they searched LHO's wallet there. 3. Fritz, Hosty and Bookhout said that LHO told them his Beckley address in Fritz's office. 4. Harry Holmes has a completely different story -- he claims that he got it from a postal clerk who remembered LHO's name when he heard it on the radio regarding the Tippit shooting. According to Harry Holmes, this clerk brought to him LHO's November, 1963 application for a PO Box in Dallas, and LHO had used his Beckley address on the application. Holmes then called the Dallas Police and told them. OK, so that's one problem -- that we have four different accounts of how and when LHO's Beckley address became known to the Dallas Police. But there are more problems. For instance, thanks to Steve Thomas last year, I learned that if we take a good look at LHO's November, 1963 application for a PO Box in Dallas, we will NOT see the address of 1026 North Beckley Avenue, instead, we will plainly see the address of 3610 North Beckley Avenue! Here's a copy of that application from the Warren Commission exhibits: https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh20/html/WH_Vol20_0096b.htm OK, so that's another problem. It was not a typo. It seems to me that LHO was trying to keep his location as secret as possible, so he used a fake address on his PO box application. So, this problem requires us to find out how Harry Holmes could use this fake address to send the Dallas Police the correct address. Hmm. But here's the third problem. We know from Earlene Roberts, the supervisor of rooms there at 1026 North Beckley Avenue, that a police car she didn't recognize (and she paid attention to them) came by that house just minutes after LHO had arrived there, and perhaps a half-hour after the JFK Assassination, and honked the horn twice before driving away. If those Dallas Police were looking for LHO, and knew where to look, then the Dallas Police already had the 1026 North Beckley Avenue address -- and didn't need it from Harry Holmes anyway. So, that's three problems that I see -- and all of them put Harry Holmes' WC testimony into question. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, By the numbers: 1. There was no way for a Dallas Radical Right plot against JFK to succeed without cooperation from the Dallas Secret Service. Even if everybody in the Washington DC Secret Service was stone cold ignorant about the plot -- all that the Radical Right needed was the Dallas Secret Service. *** The reason was the PRS of the Secret Service. There was such an emphasis on SOP (as every insider knew) that one could manipulate the entire Secret Service traveling show by merely manipulating the PRS. *** It was not only the Dallas FBI that kept back data about Walker's Dallas Minutemen from the PRS -- it was also the Dallas Secret Service. Sorrels knew -- but held back the truth. *** By my reading, Forrest Sorrels rushing to the TSBD showed his motivation -- his own anxiety to micro-manage the framing of Oswald. 2. Where did Sorrels get the data about Oswald in Mexico City? The answer must be from Dallas FBI agent James Hosty. Hosy says in his book, A$$ignment Oswald (1996) that he and Sorrels had a working relationship in Dallas -- and also that Hosty knew about the Mexico City trip -- including LHO's meeting with KGB assassin, Valeriy Kostikov -- in early October, 1963. *** To get that data, Hosty had to have access to CIA information. *** Because Hosty had that inside information, so did Forrest Sorrels. They worked together. 3. Deputy Roger Craig expressed astonishment when Sheriff Decker told his Deputies on 11/22/1963 that they must take no part in the protection of JFK, and be "spectators and nothing more" that morning. So, it apparently occurred to Decker that morning as a bright idea. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, Again, excellent work on Dallas Secret Service SAC Forrest Sorrels. I'll address your concerns by the numbers. CONCERNS 1. In my reading, the five old guys at the top of the Dallas Conspiracy were: (1.1) General Walker; (1.2) Sheriff Decker; (1.3) Captain Fritz; (1.4) Forrest Sorrels; (1.5) Harry Holmes. *** A few of the younger men in the JFK plot were: (1.1.1) Chief Curry; (1.1.2) James Hosty; (1.1.3) Buddy Walthers; (1.1.4) Luke Mooney. *** Young or old -- it was the Bubba Network of Dallas 1963, which loved its Minutemen dearly. 2. Sorrels was ready to convict Oswald at 12:45 PM -- because he was careless. He urgently hoped he had an eye witness that he could manipulate. *** Actually, there were two eye-witnesses who literally saw a 6th floor rifle shoot rounds -- Howard Brennan and Amos Euins -- but they could not make out the face. Brennan wavered in his identification of Lee Harvey Oswald as the shooter -- a big disappointment for the WC. Neither could be talked into identifying LHO. 3. I also find it unlikely that the veteran SS man in Dallas, Forrest Sorrels, never heard of Dallas' dirty Jack Ruby. Sorrels distancing himself from "Rubenstein" reminds me of Chief Curry's drawl. 4. Change-of-address cards give the FBI and SS plenty of data to track suspects. More people used the post office in 1963 than used credit agencies. The FBI and SS had instant access to Postal records. *** The Dallas Postal Inspector had a tight relationship with the DPD, FBI and SS. and he was present at LHO's final interview of his life. 5. Claiming a hostile reaction by LHO to the police discovery of his Alek Hidell alias, was Sorrels showing a criminal intent, an underground conspiracy, and hopefully a Communist Plot. *** Yet for me, this is putting words into LHO's mouth, and 90% of what Sorrels and the others claim that LHO said, I disbelieve strongly. 6. EXCELLENT point, Jason, about seeing no reason to include the Dallas Secret Service in the DPD Homicide Department. The only reason for Sorrels' presence is that he is a part of the JFK/LHO plot from the start. 7. The WC did ask him one question about checking in with the PRS. Sorrels said he checked in with them, and there was nothing and nobody suspicious in Dallas. One sentence. *** Yet Sorrels was close to James Hosty, and he knew all about the Minutemen in Dallas. This proves he is part of the plot, IMHO. *** Sorrels also knew that the handbill, WANTED FOR TREASON: JFK, was created by Robert Alan Surrey and General Walker -- the same two men who orchestrated the public humiliation of UN Ambassador Adlai Stevenson in Dallas only 30 days prior. This was well-known in Dallas, by many. *** Sorrels knew of a Dallas Radical Right plot to kill JFK and blame LHO and then kill LHO -- because he was part of it. For that reason, he takes great care to keep quiet about the Minutemen and the Radical Right in Dallas. 8. The effort to emphasize Ruby’s birth name – Rubenstein -- was part of an effort to blame the JFK assassination on the Communists -- given the Dallas Radical Right belief that Communism was Jewish -- an attack on Christian values. *** This was the ultimate justification for any Radical Right violence. *** It is well-known by historians that Nazis sold their agenda on the claim that Communism was Jewish. *** In this way, the terror of Communism would be joined with sermons from the pulpit about the crucifixion of Christ by Jewish leaders, so that the grass-roots community would buy into it. *** As you say, Jason, the leaders of the JFK plot in Dallas were "old men." Some were born in the 1890's. They had seen the KKK March in Washington DC under Woodrow Wilson. These values were already decrepit by 1963. *** Reverend Billy James Hargis, a close associate of General Walker, was fully apprised of the JFK/LHO plot. He was close to Carlos Bringuier. ** Hargis' anti-Semitism was patent -- he called Judaism, "the Antichrist." He referred to Earl Warren's court as "the Antichrist" Supreme Court. So did General Walker. 9. Jason, I will deliberately bypass anything about the Jack Ruby trial, since I find it to be tangential and distracting to the JFK/LHO plot. *** Jack Ruby was persuaded by the Dallas Police on the weekend of 11/22/1963 to kill LHO. They worked on him for hours. 10. The JFK murder is about the Radical Right. Jack Ruby was not a player in the Radical Right -- except that he was a "bribed tool of reactionary intrigue." *** By that I mean that Dallas cops convinced Jack Ruby that killing the cop-killer LHO would make Ruby a hero in Dallas. *** As always, I credit Seth Kantor (1971) for his personal knowledge and insight into Jack Ruby's motives. 11. Like Dallas FBI agents Hosty and Bookhout -- Sorrels' honest testimony about the final 44 hours of LHO's life would easily reveal a Radical Right plot, so these questions were suppressed by those WC attorneys who already knew the Dallas Truth. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, Again, excellent work on Dallas FBI agent James Bookhout. I'll address your concerns by the numbers. 1. I mistrust Bookhout’s WC testimony from top to bottom. He cannot give clear answers to clear questions, because he has far too much to hide. 2. Bookhout will not share his hour by hour biography during the most important weekend in his career -- since he has too much to hide. 3. I categorically refuse to believe 90% of the words ascribed to Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) from his arrival at the Dallas Police HQ around 2:15pm on 11/22/1963 until he was killed there around 11:15am on 11/24/1963. *** Up to 90% of the words that Fritz, Hosty, Bookhout, Sorrels and Holmes claim that LHO said were fabricated in a plot led by Captain Fritz in the intervening months between the murder of LHO and this WC testimony. ***. Still, LHO's request for Attorney Abt was real. I say this because Ruth Paine testified to it, and I accept her word as terra firma in the case. (Ruth testified that LHO called her personally, and demanded that she contact Abt for him -- more or less like a paid secretary. She worried about his arrogant attitude -- a man facing a death sentence -- but she tried to contact Abt out of friendship for Marina. Abt was on vacation that weekend.) *** In my reading, the Radical Right "handlers" of LHO, who put him in this position, continually assured him that "everything would be all right" as long as he kept playing ball. LHO agreed to this. ***. The Radical Right "handlers" of LHO told him to contact Attorney Abt. It seems to me that LHO had no clue in the world who Attorney Abt was. He never heard of him. This was a "ruse", a secret plan for LHO to believe, to help secure his silence. It worked like a charm. ***. Again, LHO is unaware that Abt is a Communist. This was likely a joke being played on him -- certainly by John Birch Society members who kept abreast of such information -- members like General Edwin Walker. 4. Bookhout’s testimony of anything that happens in Fritz's office -- including personnel -- is intended to be fuzzy. It was scripted -- that is the only reason that we get whatever agreements we do get. The fuzziness lends itself to credibility, as they continually say, "I don't recall." 5. There are two personas of LHO that the JFK plotters attempt to portray -- the first is the cool, calm, calculating KGB agent, to impress the US Government. This second is the rude, insulting and vulgar criminal, to impress the US Public. 6. Bookhout probably remembers everything that happened during the 44 hours of keeping LHO in seclusion from the world until his assassin could be put into place. However, breathing a word of it would be fatal. His first strategy would be to say he didn't remember. His second strategy would be to stick to the script written by Captain Fritz and his team. 7. No, the news that Oswald was wearing a T-shirt and everybody else had jackets was annouced by many DPD witnesses. It was smoothed over by assurances. 8. YES! Hosty says Fritz asks about Mexico while Bookhout says Hosty asks about Mexico! Also, when you get to Harry Holmes' testimony, pay special attention to what *he* says about Mexico! It's unraveling! 9. It seems to me that Bookhout is projecting a calm Oswald in order to keep himself calm during his several hours of perjury. 10. The fiction of a bus/taxi in LHO's travel from the TSBD to Oak Cliff was invented by Fritz and his men (who "found" the bus ticket and the taxi driver, whose testimony falls apart like a house of cards). Yet it became mandatory for the Lone Nut theory, otherwise, LHO would be seen to have accomplices with cars to drive him around. 11. BRILLIANT LIST, Jason, of the scripted elements: (1) Oswald admits the Beckley address; (2) Oswald admits possession of pistol; (3) Oswald denies owning a rifle; (4) Oswald admits resisting arrest; (5) Oswald admits TSBD employment; (6) Oswald denies a lawyer; (7) Oswald denies Mexico City but admits Tijuana; (8) Oswald claims the backyard photos are fakes. That list will grow, as you will see. All best, --Paul

Meryvn, This thread is currently and plainly focused on the Dallas Police, Deputies and other Officials in November, 1963. Your remarks about Bernald in 1961 in Germany are deliberately distracting to this focus. I am setting your Forum account to IGNORE. Everybody who wishes to contribute remarks about the Dallas Police, Deputies and other Officials in November, 1963, is invited to join. Sincerely, --Paul Trejo

Hi Jason, The SOP of the US Secret Service with regard to taking the US President on a trip to any city in the USA is to first call the local FBI for that city, to get a report of any dangerous persons in that city, for advance reconnaissance. The branch of the Secret Service that did this in 1963, was called the "Protective Service Section" or PRS. They had a staff of 15 people in 1963, and no computers. All records were maintained in paper, in filing cabinets with filing clerks. In addition to contacting the local FBI for that city, they also contacted the local Secret Service agent. Here is some WC testimony that refers to this: Washington DC Secret Service agent Roy Kellerman: Representative FORD. Now, according to the various reports we have, when you know you are going to a particular city, or several cities, you have a method or a procedure to check to see if there are any individuals or organizations that present a serious threat to the President. Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes, sir. We have what we call a Protective Research Section. This has been in existence for many years, through Roosevelt's days--I will go back that far. Through the combined efforts of various sources, through other agencies, they have a file on all the, let's say dangerous, for a better word, people that could be suspected in the city he arrives in. They will furnish the agents on those three shifts, if there are a number of them, or even one--it doesn't make any difference--all the data possible on that person-- it will be given to each shift. It is a report form; can be read by all. And, if possible, there is a photograph included. That will be circulated around. Representative FORD. Now, when you got your xxxignment on or about November 17, what did you do in this regard? Mr. KELLERMAN. ...One of the first things we do, when a trip is planned, is make a call on that PRS Section and tell them, "On November 21 we are going to be in San Antonio, Houston, and Fort Worth. On the 22d we will be in Dallas, Austin, and at the ranch." And they take it from there. ... Representative FORD. Also on the report it says, "In accordance with the usual practice, the local FBI office informed the local Secret Service office of any information which affected the President's visit," Mr. KELLERMAN. They did. That is the normal practice. Representative FORD. That was the normal procedure? Mr. KELLERMAN. It is always the normal procedure; yes, sir. ... Representative FORD. The report also says, "On October 30, 1963, the local FBI office gave the local Secret Service officer the name of a rightwing individual in the Dallas area. An investigation was made. On November 21 and 22 the local FBI office referred two pieces of information to the local Dallas office of the Secret Service." Were you familiar with that? Mr. KELLERMAN. No. Representative FORD. Who would, under your normal procedures, have been familiar with that? Mr. KELLERMAN. It would be the same organization, Protective Research Section. ... Representative FORD. Was it surprising to you that when the President was going to a city as large as Dallas, that there were no names turned over to you, either by your Protective Research Section or by any other Federal agents--individuals or an individual dangerous to the President? Mr. KELLERMAN. I recall, to give you an answer, Congressman, that it did seem strange that here we are hitting five cities in one State and--and from the apparent trouble Ambassador Stevenson had down there one evening, we certainly should have had some information on somebody... Washington DC Secret Service agent Winston Lawson: Mr. STERN. Now, what steps did you take in Washington before you left, with respect to determining the names and other information about persons who might be in the Dallas area and who might be regarded as potential threats to the President? Mr. LAWSON. I went--on November 8, after leaving Mr. Kellerman's office, I went to the office in the Executive Office Building where our agents of the Protective Research Section are, and notified agents at that location that I was being xxxigned the advance for Dallas, Tex. trip, the date of this trip, and that I requested them to check their files and determine as to whether I should have the name of any individual in the Dallas area who was of record to us as an active subject. ... Mr. STERN. What did they tell you? Mr. LAWSON. I was told after waiting there a little while that there were no subjects of record in the Dallas area, of active PRS individuals that we would expect to harm the President. Mr. STERN. And this check was made while you were present in the office? Mr. LAWSON. Yes, sir; that is correct. ... Mr. DULLES. In general what was your recollection? Mr. LAWSON. There were no PRS subjects, active PRS subjects which would be a threat to the President to our knowledge in the Dallas area in the files. Mr. DULLES. And would you define PRS? Mr. LAWSON. Protective Research Section. Dallas Secret Service agent Forrest Sorrels: Mr. STERN - I would like you now, Mr. Sorrels, to tell us something of the Protective Research activities that took place in preparation for the President's visit to Dallas, that you recall. Mr. SORRELS - At that time, we had no known Protective Research subjects that we were making periodic checks on in that area. Mr. Lawson informed me that he had checked with PRS, and that was confirmed. US Secretary of the Treasurey, C. Douglas Dillon: Mr. McCLOY. We have had the thought that perhaps the Protective Research Section or Division of your organization wasn't as well equipped as it should have been nor as it might have been presumably for the purely preventive investigative work... Secretary DILLON. ...It was not equipped, I think, adequately in two ways. First, it did not, as is clearly shown by the events in Dallas, receive information on enough dangerous people...So that what is required is the development of criteria, better criteria, that can be circulated to law enforcement agencies generally, and which will insure that adequate information comes in...A...document has now been circulated by the Secret Service Chief to all special agents asking them to write a briefer but somewhat similar letter to all chiefs of police, sheriffs, and State police in their localities which asks them to furnish any such information to the local Secret Service agent. In my opinion, in the case of Dallas, 11/22/1963, even if the PRS had contacted the Dallas Chief of Police and Dallas Sheriff for names of dangerous people in Dallas, they would have received no cooperation, due to these Southern politics we are discussing. U.S. Secret Service Chief James J. Rowley: Mr. RANKIN. Is the Protective Research Section of the Secret Service under-: your direction, too? Mr. ROWLEY. Yes, sir; that is part of the White House area, sir. ... Mr. RANKIN. Will you tell the Commission what the standard was that you told the agencies you would like to have information concerning? Mr. ROWLEY. Well, if there were any threats to the President, we were interested in being informed about it. We were in touch with the FBI, the CIA and others. In the basic schools of the Treasury, and through coordination, our agents in charge of the areas, in coordination meetings, would inform representatives of other agencies of the type of people that we were interested in, the nature of the threats that we asked that they refer to us. Mr. RANKIN. Did you know that this standard only developed about 400 names from all over the country? Mr. ROWLEY. Yes, sir. Mr. RANKIN. And that it produced none in the immediate Dallas vicinity? Mr. ROWLEY. That is right. Mr. RANKIN. Now, have you done anything about that standard since the assassination? Mr. ROWLEY. Well, we have had a complete reexamination of the Protective Research Section... Washington DC Secret Service Special Agent-in-Charge, Protective Research, Robert Bouck Mr. STERN. With the help of these memoranda I would like to touch briefly upon the functions of the Protective Research Section that you head -- for the moment those functions other than with respect to persons of concern as a possible danger to the President. If you will turn to the last page of this exhibit, there are a list of other duties of PRS, and would you explain briefly those and give some idea of the magnitude of the task involved? Mr. BOUCK. Yes. ... Mr. Stern. ...I would like to...cover the details of your file search and other PRS activity for the Texas trip, the total Texas trip. If you would start with the first date you heard that the President was preparing to travel to Texas and tell us what your Section did and what you found. Mr. BOUCK. Our first knowledge of the Texas trip was on November 8 when the advance agent, Agent Lawson, reported to the Protective Research Section that the President was going to Texas, and that Dallas was one of the stops. A check at that time was made of our trip index, and no cards were found on Dallas to indicate that there was an uncontrolled dangerous person in Dallas. Two such people were found at the Houston stop. This information was imparted to Mr. Lawson at that time... Washington DC, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover: Mr. RANKIN. Now, in light of what happened. Mr. Hoover, I think the Commission would desire to have your comments or whatever you care to tell them, concerning the reasons why you did not furnish the information you had concerning Lee Harvey Oswald to the Secret Service prior to the time of the President's assassination. Mr. HOOVER. Well, I have gone into that very thoroughly because that was obviously one of the questions that I had in my mind when the tragedy occurred in Dallas. In going back over the record, and I have read each one of the reports dealing with that and the reports of Mr. Hosty who had dealt with the Oswald situation largely in Dallas, we had the matter that I have previously referred to, the report of the State Department that indicated this man was a thoroughly safe risk... The real issue, as we have been documenting in this thread, was the danger of Walker's Minutemen in Dallas, and so the real question was -- why didn't Hosty tell the Secret Service PRS about Walker's Minutemen. Instead, J. Edgar Hoover -- and the entire WC apparatus -- asks why James Hosty didn't tell the PRS about Lee Harvey Oswald. And the answer was simple -- no evidence existed to prove that Oswald was a direct threat! However, in his book, A$$ignment Oswald (1996), Hosty claims that he knew Oswald was a Communist in contact with a KGB assassin in Mexico City back in October, 1963, and that he tried to tell his superiors, and they refused to listen! That's his story from the beginning, middle and end of his book. Yet Hosty told the WC that he had no reason to suspect Lee Harvey Oswald! There is no way to defend Hosty, because Hosty contradicts himself. All best, --Paul

Hi Jason, I have also struggled to excuse FBI agent James Hosty in some way -- but with the further reading from WC testimony of FBI, Secret Service and Treasury agents from Washington DC, the crucial issue of the PRS came flooding in. It isn't just my opinion that the withholding of the truth from the Washington DC Secret Service Protective Research Section (PRS) was directly responsible for the murder of JFK, this is the repeated song in the WC testimony of the officials from Washington DC. I don't have all my notes with me at work, but when I get home tonight I'll share select testimony from four officials from Washington DC that put the cause of the JFK Assassination squarely on the breakdown of Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) between the PRS in DC, and the FBI in Dallas. Note that James Hosty is not personally named. It's not a witch hunt. It's a careful, systematic and procedural analysis of SOP, and how POTUS has been protected for generations. When all the dust settles, there are Dallas FBI agent, James Hosty, and Dallas Secret Service agent Forrest Sorrels, running away, pants down. All best, --Paul P.S. James Hosty is not acting on his own direction. He is cooperating with Robert Alan Surrey who is cooperating with General Walker, the leader of the Dallas Minutemen. It is General Walker who picks out Lee Harvey Oswald in June, 1962, as somebody who should not be in his beloved Texas. General Walker feared a plot by JFK and RFK, sending this Communist to taunt him. A careful examination of Walker's paranoia clarifies this. (Also, the WC testimony of Robert Alan Surrey confirms it.) James Hosty was TURNED. There's my opinion.