Malcolm Ward

The problem with the media,much like politicians,is it serves its masters and not the public.Anyone that cannot buy that LHO shot JFK is a conspiracy nut.So branded by the media. We don't trust the media or politicians,because they lie to us.We are not like sheep that follow the crowd,but independent thinkers."I think."

Complicity or Complexity. When the IRA were active in the UK they used to say,"We only have to get lucky once."In other words,take advantage when you see a breach in security. In 1974,Princess Anne was nearly kidnapped,and if it were a attack on her life instead she would be dead. At 7:45pm on Wednesday 20th March 1974 HRH Princess Anne and her then husband Mark Phillips had been to a charity film presentation and were returning back to Buckingham Palace. Driving up "The Mall" the link road to the palace in their chauffeur driven Rolls Royce they were passed by another car which forced their driver to stop the car, by pulling in front of it, The Princess was accompanied by her bodyguard, Inspector James Beaton and driver Alec Callender. The inspector pulled his walther ppk out of its housing to find that the assailant had a revolver pointed at Callender. The attacker, Ian Ball approached the window of the Rolls Royce and said " I want you to come with me for a day or two, because I want two million. Will you get out of the car?" Princess Anne is well regarded for having a resolute spirit and said " Not bloody likely, and I havn't got two million". Ball shot at Inspector Beaton and Callander wounding both men, before grabbing the princesses arm and telling the policemen "Drop that gun, or i'll shoot her". As Ball tried to grab hold of the princess, her husband, Captain Mark Phillips grabbed her, pulled her into the car and managed to close the door. Further gunfire resulted in Ball shooting Inspector Beaton in the stomach and a policeman PC Micheal Hills who had rushed over from St. Jame's palace was also shot in the stomach. The area where the attack occurred did attract some visitors even at night when it was still dark. A journalist, Brian McConnell approached Ball and said " You can't do that these are my friends, don't be silly, just give me the gun" This brave man was shot in the chest by Ball. Another passer by Ronald Russell punched Ball in the head and although Ball tried to retaliate he missed Russell, starting to realise that he was unlikely to succeed he started to run off. He didn't get too far before he was rugby tackled by Detective Constable Peter Edmonds. It wasn't a long attack but in seven minutes, eleven bullets wered fired and four people were injured. Ball appeared at Crown Court charged with two counts of attempted murder, two of wounding and one of attempting to steal and carry away Her Royal Highness Princess Anne. Ball was diagnosed as a schizophrenic and was detained under the Mental Health Act. Inspector Beaton was awarded one of the highest medals for bravery, the George Cross, PC Hills, the George Medal and Callender, McConnell and Russell, the Queen's gallantry Medal. http://case1worker.h...H-Princess-Anne Then there was the Brighton Bomb attack by the IRA on Margarette Thatcher and her Government. 1984: Tory Cabinet in Brighton bomb blast There has been a direct bomb attack on the British Government at the Conservative party conference in Brighton. At least two people have been killed and many others seriously injured, including two senior Cabinet ministers. The blast tore apart the Brighton Grand Hotel where members of the Cabinet have been staying for the Conservative party conference. Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and her husband Dennis narrowly escaped injury. The IRA has issued a statement claiming it had placed a 100lb bomb in the hotel. The statement read: "Today we were unlucky, but remember, we only have to be lucky once; you will have to be lucky always. Give Ireland peace and there will be no war." The dead have not yet been named. Among the injured were Trade and Industry Secretary Norman Tebbit, his wife Margaret and Government Chief Whip, John Wakeham. Pulled from the rubble Firemen used BBC arc lights after cables were cut to rescue Mr Tebbit from the rubble, in a painstaking operation that took several hours. Breakfast television showed pictures of the rescue and a conscious Mr Tebbit, clearly in pain, being stretchered to safety. His wife suffered neck injuries. The bomb went off at 0254 local time, ripping open the front of the hotel on the top floors and sending masonry crashing down on guests sleeping below. Fireman say many lives were probably saved because the well-constructed Victorian hotel remained standing, despite the central section of eight floors collapsing into the basement. At Mrs Thatcher's insistence the conference opened on schedule at 0930. In her redrafted speech to the party she declared: "This attack has failed. All attempts to destroy democracy by terrorism will fail." The Queen was said to be "very shocked" by the bombing. Opposition Leader Neil Kinnock expressed his "horror and outrage". Meanwhile security in the seaside town has been massively increased as rescue workers continue to search for people trapped in the rubble. Detectives are now beginning a major investigation into who was behind the bombing and how such a major breach in security occurred. http://news.bbc.co.u...000/2531583.stm Last years attack on Prince Charles. Prince Charles and Duchess of Cornwall unhurt in attack A car carrying Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall was attacked by protesters but the couple were unharmed, Clarence House has said. Protesters kicked, threw paint and smashed a window of the car which was travelling along Regent Street in central London. A spokeswoman said the couple later attended the Royal Variety performance as scheduled. They left the theatre in a police van after the performance. Adnan Nazir, 23, was one of the first to recognise the royal couple in their Rolls-Royce. "I said, 'It's Camilla'. I wasn't trying to alert them. I was just surprised to see her. A few people turned around and started hitting the windows. People started kicking the car," he said. He added that the prince remained calm, "waving and giving the thumbs up". Another eyewitness told BBC News: "I came forward and I saw him on the back seat. It was definitely Prince Charles, no doubt about it. They tried to protect him but there was too many of them." The car behind, an official royal Jaguar, also came under attack. Camilla laughed off the attack. As she left the Palladium, she said: "I'm fine, thanks - first time for everything." The Prince of Wales smiled. Scotland Yard has condemned the "outrageous and increasing levels of violence". A spokesman said: "It has gone so far that a car in which the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall were travelling through the West End was attacked. Police managed the situation and they were unharmed." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11965454 It just shows that a attack can happen with the right conditions on anyone who is in a Powerful position.It is my belief if they could not do the job of killing JFK in Dallas they would have got him somewhere else.They were out to get him and they,not Oswald were powerful.All they needed to know was that security would be lax,as it was.If it was tight,the mission would have been aborted and done elsewhere.The only scenario that would have made JFK safer would have been a botched attempt.One in which he was fired at but escaped injured or unhurt.Then JFK and the public would have been convinced of the need for tighter security.

Bill Greer speaks.Interesting to hear his voice.Take a look here.Sounds like a echo on the phone line but its audible. http://wn.com/JFK_Se..._Kennedy_Detail

Richard,it is possible.We know now that JFK issued no order to remove protection from the rear of JFK's Presidential Limousine.Agent Rybka was positively perplexed at Love Field. The Bubbletop removal,on a changeable weather day was also a factor that contributed to JFK's death. Dallas police officers being told they were to observe the Motorcade only. The positioning of the Motorcycle Outriders. And Greer's Braking/Slowing down. Interesting link here,THE STRANGE ACTIONS (AND INACTION) OF AGENT EMORY ROBERTS by Vincent M. Palamara (Copyright 1999) http://www.jfklink.c...oryRoberts.html So yes its possible.But what if Greer simply bottled it.There are Guns going of,who are they trying to kill,the President.How do I ,Greer,best survive. Stay still,if I move,I Greer am more likely to get my head blown of by mistake. Abraham Boden has stated some agents would do nothing in the event of a attack on the POTUS.But I don't think he implied a conspiracy at that point in time he heard it.,more realistically,Cowardice,on the part of the Agents in the discussion. Like I said Richard,It is possible,I am just not swayed to their complicity as of yet.

Raymond,the basic problem I have with Secret Service involvement is I would expect to see those involved to have more money,in property,possessions,etc than you would expect on average Secret Service pay at that time.I know some have made money from books,but that only happened because of the interest in the Kennedy case.long after the Assassination.I doubt if they knew that this would happen.And the interest continues because of the Governments official stance of the lone nutter.The amount of dead witnesses involved with this case,the bodged autopsy,the Windscreen replaced on the cleaned out Limo.But Johnson,or one of his subordinates may have made a lame excuse for the washed car.Like I don't want press taking gory pictures or I would rather its cleaned so Mrs Kennedy does not have to see it like that again. I am not fixed in my view,and if I saw evidence in these guys getting a pay off,I would be more tempted,persuaded to believe of there involvement.But I have not found a cash trail yet.And I doubt they would be involved in a murder like this for nothing.Generals maybe,these people have big ego's,they may also have seen it as a service to their country in some sort of warped way has they saw JFK as a Pinko,Commy. Plus,whoever organised this,would they risk attempting to approach guys in the SS with a offer to take part in the murder of the century.What if they refused,would that not be plan blown,unless you bump of the guy approached. My own view is they,the SS were lackadaisical in there attitudes.A trip away was party time.And the killers knew this.Someone has already put in place that dog leg turn on Elm Street.That would slow down a big car,like the limousine JFK was driving in. You have the tall buildings with a choice of places to place snipers.The knoll and the storm drain being other possibilities. I think the bigger the circle of those involved,the bigger the risk of being found out.Keep it to a minimum and you have the possibility of never being found out,and it has not yet been proved who did it yet. But as I say Raymond,this is just a personal opinion.

When General Walker,a military tactician,surveyed Dealey Plaza.I am sure he would have spotted the storm drain.If you look at the storm drain another way it could be likened to a Pill Box.There are a lot of them over here in the UK,even now many years after WW11.I have been in a few myself.Dark dank concrete boxes with little height and not much headroom.Much like a storm drain.Photos of pill boxes here.Note they were often,to the most part buried leaving only the shooting slots showing. This one in particular. Type 25 Extant example at Sheephatch Lane . . A part of GHQ Line. Horizontal section at the level of the embrasures. Pillbox Type FW3/25, horizontal section at the level of the embrasures. Note simple circular plan. The type 25 pillbox is the only FW3 design that is circular with a diameter of 8 feet (2.4 m). The walls were just 12 inches (30 cm) thick with no internal walls. There were three embrasures suitable for rifles or light machine guns and a small entrance like a low window. This design was made from reinforced concrete shuttered by corrugated iron; this gave the design the popular name Armco after the manufacturer of corrugated iron of that name. http://en.wikipedia....of_World_War_II I know the storm drain in Dealey Plaza had little room for a rifle.But has I earlier pointed out,the Welrod,operational from 1942 through to 1991.It was designed for assassinations,Welrod pistols in .32 / 7.65mm were also purchased and later manufactured in USA,so General Walker sure knew about them.Could have been used,in my opinion from the storn drain.Info on Welrod posted again here. http://world.guns.ru...d-silent-e.html Also the advantage of shooting upwards towards JFK would give a trajectory similar to one fired from above,Book Depository area.So when looking at the damage to JFK,s head could presume a downward trajectory could it not also presume a upward trajectory as Tom Wilson seems to suggest in the You Tube video I posted earlier above.A shot from here would attract little attention,indeed the only people looking at the road would have been a Driver like Greer,who would scan the road ahead.I do when I am driving. If Greer did indeed think shots were coming from the front,would this not explain his slowing down/stopping.He would not later in that day say he saw a shot from the front because as we now know,a shot from the front in LBJ,s reasoning would confirm a conspiracy and possibly lead to WW111.

Steven Skeen said, What do you make of the possibility of a sewer drain sniper? Have you ever seen this tape Steven.

John,whenever I look up JFK Nazi's seem to crop up.I found a old link here that implies there involvement.Also a Link on Walker. http://www.maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brussell%20Articles/Nazi%20Connection%20to%20JFK%20Assass.html http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKSinvestBirch.htm

FAST FORWARD: At 12:23 on November 22, from his office on the 7th floor of the Mercantile Building, Haroldson Lafayette Hunt watched John Kennedy ride towards Dealey Plaza, where fate awaited him at 12:30. A few minutes later, escorted by six men in two cars, Hunt left the center of Dallas without even stopping by his house. At that very moment; General Walker was in a plane between New Orleans and Shreveport. He joined Mr. Hunt in one of his secret hideaways across the Mexican border. There they remained for a month, protected by personal guards, under the impassive eyes of the FBI. It was not until Christmas that Hunt, Walker and their party returned to Dallas. It isn't enough to want to kill the President. There is also the Secret Service to think about. The Presidential assistants were prepared to affront political obstacles, but their "grace and their airy flanerie" had shielded them from the brutal side of American life. Innocent of violence and ignorant of hate, they failed to see the danger. Only Daniel P. Moynihan, a former longshoreman, had some idea of such things. Of all the Cabinet officials, only Bob Kennedy knew the risks of the Presidency. But he couldn't be behind his brother every minute of the day. Ken O'Donnell, who was in charge of the White House staff, had authority not only over the personnel, but also over the Secret Service. He could transfer or fire anyone he wanted, and he had the power, to introduce reforms. He was also in charge of the President's trips. The 56 Secret Service agents assigned to the White House detail were under the authority of the Treasury Department, but the responsible official, Assistant Treasury Secretary Robert Wallace, left the everyday direction of the Service to James Rowley, a mediocre civil servant. Gerald Behn, head of the White House Secret Service detail, lacked the necessary intelligence and qualifications for the job. It is difficult, of course, to protect an active President, and it is impossible to protect him completely during his public appearances. But there are ways to reduce the risk, and there are certain rules which are applied by Presidential security forces throughout the world, be it in France, the USSR, or Bolivia. The protection of the President witnin the United States(3) presents a special problem. The Secret Service is obliged to cooperate with the local police, which are sometimes incompetent or unreliable, and can even, as in Dallas, be dangerous.(4) But a Presidential security force should be able to rise to the challenge. The guerrilla warfare specialists who organized the Dallas ambush were amazed to discover that Kennedy's Secret Service worked like a troop of boy scouts. Several members of the White House detail were not qualified for their jobs. Their average age was 40, and as in the Senate the highest positions were awarded on the basis of seniority. Bill Greer, the driver of the Presidential Lincoln, was 54 and had 35 years' experience, enough to lull anybody's reflexes. After O'Donnell and perhaps Kellerman (the agent who rode in the front of the President's car in Dallas), Greer bears a heavy responsibility for the success of the assassination. We shall explain why a little later. The White House agents had two sessions a year on a Washington firing range, but they practiced only target shooting like any amateur. Their reflexes were never tested. At any rate, a security agent's gun is of secondary importance. Generally, he has no time to shoot. His job is to anticipate an attempt on the President's life. Soviet security agents, for instance, have narrowly defined responsibilities. In official motorcades, one agent watches the windows on the first floor, another those on the second, another the spectators in the front row, still another the people standing alone, another the local policemen and a sixth the soldiers lining the road. Lawson, the Secret Service advance man in Dallas, let the local authorities show him around the city, and his report reached the White House only the day before the President's departure. Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963 was about as heavily guarded as the Grand Canyon on a winter day. There is a standard procedure for assuring the security of a motorcade traversing a city. As Superintendent Ducret, the man responsible for President De Gaulle's security, describes it: "Of course, it is impossible to watch everything and occupy everything along the President's route. But it can be assumed that occupied office or apartment buildings are relatively safe. A potential assassin might, of course, try to enter one of these buildings, but he would be at the mercy of a witness. Serious conspirators will rarely take such a risk. "On the other hand, all unoccupied buildings, administrative buildings outside of working hours, warehouses, building sites, and naturally all bridges, walls, and vacant lots that would be ideal for an ambush must not only be watched, but actually occupied by forces placed directly under the supervision of the Presidential security division." On November 21, the two men in charge of the ambush observed the Kennedy motorcade in Houston. In Texas, as in Utah, the Secret Service was entirely dependent upon the local police. Not only did the agents behave on these trips as if they were members of the party; they were always one step ahead. At 12:30 pm, seconds before the assassination, agent Emory Roberts jotted in his shift report, "12:35 pm, the President arrived at the Trade Mart." The Secret Service was already thinking ahead to tomorrow, when Kennedy was to visit Lyndon Johnson on his ranch. Roy Kellerman, who took his place at Dallas, proved so incompetent that at Parkland Hospital his men started taking orders from agent Emory Roberts. Later, during the flight back to Washington, Rufus Youngblood took over. These men had traveled 200,000 miles with the President. Somewhere along the line, they had neglected the first rule of security: they had lost their reflexes. When the first shot rang out at Dealey Plaza, agent Clint Hill, who was later decorated, was the first to move, and it took him 7 or 8 seconds to react. In eight seconds, the average sprinter can cover 80 yards. Yet "Halfback," the back-up car in which Hill was riding, was almost touching the Presidential limousine, and neither vehicle was traveling more than 12 miles an hour. Kennedy's Secret Service agents apparently had no idea of the importance of a second in an assassination attempt. Agent Hickey, riding in Halfback, had an AR-15 automatic rifle on his lap, but it took him two seconds to load it and get ready to fire. In two seconds a modern bullet travels more than a mile. The organizers of the ambush knew, of course, that the Secret Service was inefficient, but they had never imagined that their reflexes were that slow, and they had laid their plans in the assumption that Kennedy's agents would react immediately. The tactical and ballistic aspects of the operation, which we shall examine later, were based on a hypothetical operating time of three seconds. This was the estimated reaction time of Kennedy's bodyguards. But the President's driver could have reduced it even more. The President's car was a Lincoln with a souped-up engine specially designed for rapid accelerations, and we shall see later how speed affects the accuracy of a gunman. The blame must be laid not so much on the Secret Service agents as on their chiefs, and on the White House assistant responsible for the President's security. We have cited only their most glaring errors, but there were others -- less important perhaps, but characteristic of their lack of discipline, such as their drinking on duty. Abraham Bolden, the only Negro in the Presidential bodyguard, asked to testify before the Warren Commission on the subject of some of these accusations, but the Committee refused to hear him. Later, he was fired from the Secret Service on grounds of professional incompetence. The Secret Service was guilty of negligence, as the highly respected Wall Street Journal commented. But its agents were professionals, and they recognized the work of other professionals. They were the first in the President's entourage to realize that the assassination was a well organized plot. They discussed it among themselves at Parkland Hospital and later during the plane ride back to Washington. They mentioned it in their personal reports to Secret Service Chief James Rowley that night. Ten hours after the assassination, Rowley knew that there had been three gunmen, and perhaps four, at Dallas that day, and later on the telephone Jerry Behn remarked to Forrest Sorrels (head of the Dallas Secret Service), "It's a plot." "Of course," was Sorrel's reply. Robert Kennedy, who had already interrogated Kellerman, learned that evening from Rowley that the Secret Service believed the President had been the victim of a powerful organization. President Kennedy was dead, but the Secret Service was never officially inculpated. There were several staff changes in the White House detail, but two agents, Youngblood and Hill, were decorated. Because it reinforced its thesis, the Warren Commission blamed the Presidential guards, but a soldier is worth no more than his commanding officer, and the heads of the Secret Service were not worth much. As for Ken O'Donnell, ex-captain of the Harvard rugby team, at Dallas he was up against a team that played rough. Exerts taken from here. http://www.sott.net/...-Fascist-Texans

Paul,I would assume you know a lot of the stuff I am about to post.You may find the odd bit of info useful so will post anyway,and has you said previously,it helps bring others up to speed. General Edwin A. Walker is known to most JFK assassination buffs as the man whom Oswald allegedly shot at in April 1963. The general’s right-wing connections are often noted, as is the fact that he was forced out of his command by the Kennedy administration for his political indoctrination of his troops. His activities during the race riots in Oxford, Mississippi in 1962 are also often mentioned, when he was arrested on four federal charges including insurrection. His public statement at Oxford was as follows: This is Edwin A. Walker. I am in Mississippi beside Gov. Ross Barnett. I call for a national protest against the conspiracy from within. Rally to the cause of freedom in righteous indignation, violent vocal protest and bitter silence under the flag of Mississippi at the use of Federal troops. This today is a disgrace to the nation in ‘dire peril,’ a disgrace beyond the capacity of anyone except its enemies. This is the conspiracy of the crucifixion by anti-Christ conspirators of the Supreme Court in their denial of prayer and their betrayal of a nation. [source NYT, 9/30/62] The Army ordered General Walker to undergo psychiatric testing. The general’s case is strange indeed. But another fact, not often mentioned, makes his activities in 1961-3 even stranger. Going back to 1957, we find him in charge of *enforcing* the desegregation order in Little Rock, Arkansas. His public statements on the matter were limited to exhorting the public to uphold the will of the courts and desegregate peacefully. The following article details his biography up to that time. ============================================================================ New York Times, September 25, 1957, page 18 HE GUARDS THE PEACE Edwin Anderson Walker LITTLE ROCK, Sept. 24 — Maj. Gen. Edwin Anderson Walker, who will be responsible for maintaining peace in Little Rock, was described by staff officers today as “tough, but fair.” A tall, lean-visaged Texan, General Walker came to Little Rock only seven weeks ago as commander of the Arkansas Military District. He is still a stranger to the city. Today, General Walker was at his desk in a downtown office building at 7 A.M. He had not yet received formal orders to take over the Arkansas National Guard, but he knew what was coming. Already orders carrying his signature were being processed for the deployment of National Guard units. He will command a combined force of regulars and Federalized Guardsmen. He stands 6 feet 3 inches in height. He is a bachelor and has been considered a prize for hostesses wherever he has been stationed. He was born in Center Point, Texas, on Nov. 10, 1909. General Walker’s favorite expression is “check,” a word he snaps to indicate a mission has been accomplished or that he understands his orders. As a member of the Special Services group, he was required to be a paratrooper. At his test, he approached a subordinate and asked: “How do you put this thing on?” He received a fast five-minute briefing and climbed into an airplane. He jumped, landed safe and snapped to the test officer: “Check.” General Walker is a combat officer. He has seen action in World War II and in Korea. He has carried out a number of unusual and hazardous assignments, particularly during World War II. He started his military career as an artillery officer after he graduated from West Point in 1931. But he switched to commando operations during the war and led a special force of Canadians and Americans, in Italy and in France. This outfit, trained for airborne, amphibious, mountain and ski operations, was called the Special Services Force. General Walker led the Third Regiment, First Special Service Force, in its initial operation at Kiska during the Aleutians campaign. When the commandos were transferred to the Italian campaign, General Walker led the first Special Service Force in tough mountain fighting up the Italian peninsula and at Anzio beachhead. A Surprise Landing In August, 1944, his men made a surprise landing on the Hyeres Islands off the French Riviera and killed or captured a strong German garrison that could have jeopardized the Seventh Army landings on the mainland near by. With the Hyeres occupied, his troops rejoined the main invasion force and moved up the Rhone Valley. Toward the end of the war he was detached from the commandos and placed in command of the 417 Infantry Regiment, a separate force attached to the Third Army. At V-E Day he was commanding a special task unit in Oslo. Returning to the United States in January, 1946, General Walker served as assistant director of the combined arms department, Field Artillery School, Fort Sill, Okla. He was in charge of the Greek desk at the Pentagon during the Greek civil war and made an official visit to Greece and Turkey. During the Korean War, General Walker commanded the Seventh Regiment of the Third Infantry Division and later was senior adviser to Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek. His last assignment before coming to Little Rock was as commanding general at the Twenty-fifth Artillery Division in Hawaii. He holds the Silver Star and the Bronze Star with oak leaf cluster. ============================================================================ This is the man arrested on four federal charges in Mississippi in 1962? Those charges were: Section 111– For assault and resisting or other opposing Federal officers, including marshals, in the performance of their duty. Section 372– For conspiracy to prevent a Federal officer from discharging his duties. Section 2383– For inciting or engaging in an insurrection against the United States. Section 2384– For conspiracy to overthrow or oppose by force the execution of the laws of the United States. A conspiracy is defined legally as including two or more persons. On October 7, 1962, Walker posted $50,000 bond and returned home to Dallas amid 200 cheering supporters carrying signs like “Welcome Home, General Walker,” “Win With General Walker,” and “President ’64.” On January 21, 1963, a federal grand jury in Oxford, Mississippi adjourned without indicting Walker on any of the four counts against him. The Justice Department dismissed the charges “without prejudice” after the grand jury failed to indict. The dismissal “without prejudice” meant that the charges could be reinstated before the five year statute of limitations expired. Walker and his supporters then went on the offensive. On April 2, 1963, a group called the Citizens Congressional Committee filed a petition with the Senate Judiciary Committee requesting an investigation of the treatment of “America’s fearless patriot on the occasion of his incarceration at the instigation of the Department of Justice.” Nine days later, on April 9, Walker was sitting at his desk at home when the famous shooting incident occurred. Meanwhile, the American Medical Association was receiving “a volume of letters from individual physicians” charging Dr. Charles E. Smith, the Army psychiatrist — who commented on Walker’s mental state at the time of the Oxford violence — with unethical conduct: that he made an improper diagnosis without a personal examination. Dr. Smith was cleared by the AMA on July 4, 1963. He said that news stories of Walker’s “reported behavior reflects sensitivity and essentially unpredictable and seemingly bizarre outbursts of the type often observed in individuals suffering with paranoid mental disorder.” The society had received 2,500 letters from physicians alleging unethical conduct by Dr. Smith. Nevertheless, the board unanimously ruled in Smith’s favor. Walker then took his case to court, filing a total of $23 million dollars in libel damages against numerous media outlets alleging that they had made “false statements” and that their “suppression of truth was motivated by malice and a desire to hurt and harm him in his good reputation and blacken his good name.” The statements in question were that he “led a charge of students against Federal marshals on the Ole Miss campus” and various other statements attributing to him a very active role in leading the insurrection such as “Walker assumed command of the crowd.” A jury in Fort Worth awarded an $800,000 judgment against the Associated Press, ruling that malice was intended. The offensive was also being taken up by Republicans in Congress in an alliance with Southern Democrats, who wanted to embarrass Attorney General Robert Kennedy because of his civils rights activities. The House Judiciary Committee voted on September 1, 1964 by a margin of 18 to 14 to open an investigation of the Justice Department’s handling of cases including, but not limited to, those of Jimmy Hoffa, Roy M. Cohn, and former Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker. The vote among Republican and Southern Democratic committee members was 16-2; that of non-Southern Democrats was 2-12. Meanwhile, a Louisiana jury awarded Walker $3 million in damages in another one of his libel suits. His luck started to turn sour however, and finally on June 12, 1967, the Supreme Court ruled 9-0 extending the constitutional protection of freedom of the press to libelous falsehoods about private individuals who willingly take part in public affairs. Such protections were already in place concerning libel against political officials, but this was a landmark case extending the applicability to private individuals who willingly venture into the public arena. Walker’s awards were overturned. Chief Justice Warren explained, “Our citizenry has a legitimate and substantial interest in the conduct of such persons… Freedom of the press to engage in uninhibited debate about their involvement in public issues should be subject to derogatory criticism, even when based on false statements.” Walker’s name occasionally surfaced in the press after this, usually in connection with anti-UN activities or in connection with the presidential campaign of George Wallace. —————————————————————————– APPENDIX These articles concern the controversy about right-wing extremism in the military in the early Sixties, specifically related to General Walker and the Kennedy administration. ============================================================================= New York Times, June 18, 1961, page 1 Right-Wing Officers Worrying Pentagon by Cabell Philips WASHINGTON, June 17 — The Pentagon is having its troubles with right-wingers in uniform. A number of officers of high and middle rank are indoctrinating their commands and the civilian population near their bases with political theories resembling those of the John Birch Society. They are also holding up to criticism and ridicule some official policies of the United States Government. The most conspicuous example of some of these officers was Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker, who was officially “admonished” for his activities by the Secretary of the Army earlier this week. General Walker’s offense was in saying that a number of prominent Americans, as well as elements of the newspaper and television industries, were tainted with Communist ideology. He did this in the course of a continuing effort that the general said was “designed to develop an understanding of the American military and civil heritage, responsibility toward that heritage and the facts and objectives of those enemies who would destroy it.” General Walker was the commander of the Twenty-Fourth Infantry Division in Germany at the time… The problem for the Pentagon arises out of the fact that a number of its higher ranking officers have participated in or publically lent their support to a variety of so-called forums, schools, and seminars, ostensibly focused on the issues of national security. However, many of those groups — at least incidentally — are preoccupied with radically right-wing political philosophies. Stress on Anti-Communism The chief ingredient of these philosophies is often a militant anti-communism. The argument is that Communist subversion today is rife among the schools, the churches, labor unions, Government offices, and elsewhere. In this argument, liberalism is equated with socialism and socialism with communism. Thus it opposes most welfare legislation, many programs for international cooperation such as foreign aid and disarmament conferences… The genesis of this program goes back to the so-called “cold war policy” evolved by the National Security Council in the summer of 1958… Cold War Widened President Eisenhower and his top policy leaders decreed that the “cold war” could not be fought as a series of separate and often unrelated actions, as with foreign aid and propaganda. Rather, it must be fought with a concentration of all the resources of the Government and with the full understanding and support of the civilian population. It was decided, in particular, that the military should be used to reinforce the “cold war” effort. This was the substance of the still-classified “cold-war policy” paper of the National Security Council… Of the hundreds of military bases here and abroad, only a score have become involved in these programs to the point that they have caused alarm among the new civilian team in the Pentagon. Officials suspect, however, that the trend is somewhat more widespread than their reports currently indicate. They are quietly trying to find out how widespread it is. A typical example about which they do know is a seminar labeled Project Action. This was held at the Naval Air Station, Wold-Chamberlain Field, Minneapolis, on April 28 and 29 of this year. Capt. Robert T. Kieling is the commanding officer of the station. He was a co-sponsor of the program in collaboration with a committee of the Minneapolis-St. Paul Chamber of Commerce. The official announcement described the program as follows: “The purpose of Project Action is to inspire the citizens of this area to take an active part in the war against the danger that threatens our freedom and American way of life.” “The program of talks and presentations by nationally-known leaders for the cause of democracy will bring to light facts and figures concerning the rising crime rate, juvenile delinquency, drug addiction, the general degradation of morals, the complacent attitude toward patriotism, and the tremendous gains the Communist conspiracy is making in this country…” The United States Naval Air Station is making facilities available for the seminar at the request of the Twin Cities Council for American Ideals… Among the scores of letters concerning Project Action that reached the Pentagon in the following days was one from a newspaper editor. It said in part: “Perhaps someone can clear up for us our lack of understanding as to just how co-sponsorship of such activities fits in with the Navy mission, or the overall military mission, for that matter. It must be admitted that the local Project Action is politically partisan in a very real sense, although the partisanship is not that of the party label type.” … Among numerous other incidents that have been brought to the attention of the Defense Department is the “Fourth Dimensional Warfare Seminar” held in Pittsburgh on April 15. Among those listed as giving “assistance and support” to the program were Lieut. Gen. Ridgely Gaither, Commanding General, Second Army, and Maj. Gen. Ralph C. Cooper, Commanding General of the Twenty-First Army Corps, and their respective staffs… “This sort of thing, if carried far enough among susceptible people, can breed a wave of vigilantism and witch-hunting,” one Pentagon official said. “Even Mr. Hoover of the F.B.I., whom nobody would call ‘soft on communism,’ deplores these self-appointed counter-spies.” … Reinforcing his point, he took from his desk a memorandum from Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara, which has been circulated as “guidance” throughout the services. In part, it said: “After the President has taken a position, has established a policy, or after appropriate officials in the Defense Department have established a policy, I expect that no member of the department, either civilian or military, will discuss that policy other than in a way to support it before the public.” … ============================================================================= New York Times, September 8, 1961 McNamara Refuses to Identify Individual Censors in Pentagon But He Gives Senators a List of Security Staff –Thurmond Voices Criticism of Policy on Anti-Red Speeches WASHINGTON, Sept. 7 — Defense Secretary Robert S. McNamara refused today to give the name of the person in the Pentagon immediately responsible for deleting anti-Communist statements from speeches by an Army general. He did provide a roster of the twelve-man security and review staff, which clears speeches. But he declined to identify particular individuals in the section who had made specific deletions. The demand for this information was made by Senator Strom Thurmond, Democrat of South Carolina, at the close of hearings before the Senate Armed Services Committee on his resolution for a full investigation of charges that military officers have been “muzzled.” … It was also learned today that Gen. Edwin A. Walker, deposed last spring from his command in Europe because of the nature of his troop indoctrination program, had pleaded the military equivalent of the Fifth Amendment’s guarantee against self-incrimination during the investigation of his case by the Army Inspector General… The entire transcript of the proceedings involving General Walker, which runs to more than 900 pages, is in the process of being declassified by the Department of Defense… Senator Thurmond’s inquiry today related to a speech prepared for delivery last March by Gen. Arthur G. Trudeau, Chief of Army Research. In testimony today it was indicated that the excisions had the effect of softening the general’s blunt criticism of Soviet policies and tactics. Mr. McNamara said that the justifications for the changes was that negotiations were then going on with the Russians for release of the downed RB-47. It was regarded as impolitic at the time, he explained, to provoke the Russians unnecessarily… ============================================================================= New York Times, November 19, 1961, page 1 KENNEDY ASSERTS FAR-RIGHT GROUPS PROVOKE DISUNITY Attacks Birch Society and ‘Minutemen’ at a Party Dinner in Los Angeles Spread of Fear Scored President Says Real Threat Comes From Without, Not Within by Tom Wicker LOS ANGELES, Nov. 18– President Kennedy spoke out tonight against the right-wing John Birch Society and the so-called Minutemen in a speech at a Democratic Party dinner here. The President mentioned neither group by name but left no doubt whom he meant. [in Atlanta, Senator Barry Goldwater, Arizona Republican, attacked the "radicals in the White House." At a news conference, he called President Kennedy the "wagon master" who is "riding on the left wheel all the time."] The President, in his talk at the Hollywood Palladium, also made his first public response to Edward M. Dealey, publisher of the Dallas Morning News. Mr. Dealey attacked the President at a White House luncheon for “riding Caroline’s tricycle” instead of being “a man on horseback.” Some ‘Escape Responsibility’ “There have always been those fringes of our society who have sought to escape their own responsibility by finding a simple solution, an appealing slogan or a convenient scapegoat,” Mr. Kennedy said. Now, he continued, “men who are unwilling to face up to the danger from without are convinced that the real danger comes from within.” “They look suspiciously at their neighbors and their leaders,” he declared. “They call for a ‘man on horseback’ because they do not trust the people. They find treason in our finest churches, in our highest court, and even in the treatment of our water.” “They equate the Democratic Party with the welfare state, the welfare state with socialism, and socialism with communism. They object quite rightly to politics’ intruding on the military — but they are anxious for the military to engage in politics.” … Mr. Kennedy chose a region in which the John Birch Society has some of its strongest support to make his third and sharpest attack on what he called tonight “the discordant voices of extremism.” In the first two speeches, at Chapel Hill, N. C., and Seattle, he also warned against left-wing and pacifist extremists. His remarks tonight were directed to far-right groups and individuals. The reference to “armed bands of civilian guerillas” appeared to be directed at the Minutemen, individual groups of which are being organized and armed in some parts of the country. The organization is reputed to be particularly strong in California. Los Angeles is regarded as almost the heartland of the Birch Society. Two Republican Representatives from its urban districts, John H. Rousselot and Edgar W. Hiestland, are avowed members. … ============================================================================= New York Times, November 19, 1961, page 54 RIGHTISTS PICKET KENNEDY SPEECH 3,000 Parade in Los Angeles in Orderly Demonstration LOS ANGELES, Nov. 18– Raucous picketing took place outside the Hollywood Palladium where President Kennedy spoke. For nearly an hour, 3,000 persons paraded, carrying signs and chanting and singing their protests over a variety of issues. The demonstration, which started rather mildly five hours before the President spoke, was suddenly stepped up by an apparent influx of rightists. Some of the signs carried by men and women wearing red, white, and blue paper hats, read: “Unmuzzle the Military,” “Clean Up the State Department,” “Veto Tito,” “Disarmament is Suicide,” and “CommUNism is Our Enemy.” The marchers sporadically chanted “Test the Bomb,” and, “No Aid to Tito.” They sang, among other things, “God Bless America” and “The Battle Hymn of the Republic.” A much smaller contingent of pacifist marchers was elbowed out. Most of these carried signs urging the end of all atomic testing… ============================================================================= New York Times, November 19, 1961, page 54 Eisenhower Travels Aloft With Kennedy SHERMAN, Tex. Nov. 18 (AP) — President Kennedy and former President Dwight D. Eisenhower rode together to Perrin Air Force Base near here by helicopter today after attending the funeral of Sam Rayburn at near-by Bonham. Senator Carl Hayden, Democrat of Arizona, was also on the helicopter. Mr. Kennedy and General Eisenhower stood together talking by the side of the aircraft for about two minutes. Mr. Kennedy gestured repeatedly with his left hand and appearing to be explaining something to General Eisenhower. General Eisenhower listened intently and shook his head affirmatively several times. They shook hands. Mr. Kennedy then walked briskly to his plane and General Eisenhower got into an Air Force automobile. ============================================================================= New York Times, November 24, 1961, page 1 Eisenhower Says Officers Should Stay Out of Politics Assails Extremists In TV Interview Former President Dwight D. Eisenhower last night urged officers of the armed services to shun partisan politics. Speaking as a General of the Army, he declared it was “bad practice –very bad” for an officer, even when testifying under oath before a committee of Congress, to express opinions “on political matters or economic matters that are contrary to the President’s.” … The former President was blunt in discussing the recent “rise of extremists” in the country. “I don’t think the United States needs super-patriots,” he declared. “We need patriotism, honestly practiced by all of us, and we don’t need these people that are more patriotic than you or anybody else.” His definition of extremists embraced those who would “go back to eliminating the income tax from our laws and the rights of people to unionize… [and those] advocating some form of dictatorship.” It also included those who “make radical statements [and] attack people of good repute who are proved patriots.” At that point, Walter Cronkite of the C.B.S. news staff, who conducted the interview, asked about the “military man’s role in our modern political life.” He did not cite, but obviously referred to, the case of Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker, who stirred up a controversy that led to his “admonishment” for the political nature of the indoctrination of his troops. General Walker lated resigned from the Army. “I believe the Army officer, Navy officer, Air officer,” General Eisenhower said, “should not be talking about political matters, particularly domestically, and never in the international field, unless he is asked to do so because of some particular position he might hold.” … The general declared there was hope for disarmament and better East-West relations. As the Russian standard of living improves, the Russian people will begin to understand that there is another way of life, he said… Source: http://ciagents.com/...edwin-a-walker/ BELOW: General Edwin Walker, who had a history of conflict with President Kennedy, was the architect of the conspiracy that killed him. It was generously financed by Dallas oil billionaire H.L. Hunt and nurtured by sympathetic elements in the U.S. military and the FBI. Robert Morningstar has identified the symbol of Walker's racist militia organization, the Minutemen, on the sleeves of two policemen photographed near the TSBD shortly after the assassination. The younger of the two men (on the right in this collage) Morningstar thinks is Officer J.D. Tippit. Tippit may even have been the so-called Badgeman who fired a shot at Kennedy from the grassy knoll. Luck of the draw or deliberate frameup? As we have seen above, eyewitness observation leads ineluctably to the conclusion that those who conspired to assassinate President Kennedy had placed two men on the sixth floor of the Depository, one black and one white. This had apparently been done deliberately to create the possibility of either individual being identified afterwards as ‘the’ assassin. There is evidence that the conspirators had long been keeping their options open as to whether a ‘Communist’ or a negro would finally take the blame. In the course of his work, PFC Eugene B. Dinkin, a U.S. army cryptographic code operator stationed in France with access to materials of the utmost sensitivity, had learned by about September 1963 that the military was planning to assassinate the president, probably acting in cahoots with an extreme rightwing group. Dinkin’s story was first revealed by Robert Mitchell in YIPster Times in 1977. Dinkin told Mitchell that he had sent cablegrams alerting the CIA on November 6 and November 7, 1963, but that the army had attempted to silence him by detaining him in Walter Reed military hospital and treating his allegations as the delusions of a mentally unbalanced individual. Mitchell not only verified Dinkin’s story but also uncovered evidence that the Warren Commission had known about it. Dinkin subsequently told researcher Dick Russell that his effort to prevent the assassination began on October 22, 1963, when he sent a letter to Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy disclosing what he had learned about the plot. In this letter he showed considerable awareness of the conspirators’ intentions: I did offer in this letter a warning than an attempt to assassinate President Kennedy would occur on November 18th, 1963; that if it were to succeed, blame would then be placed upon a Communist or a Negro, who would be designated the assassin. As we have seen in preceding pages, a negro somehow become an active participant in a plot to assassinate the country’s pro-civil rights leader. How a negro was prevailed upon to become involved, we can only guess, but the evidence suggests the possibility that it was not until a few minutes before the assassination - when he left his position in the southeast window - that he even knew that he had been selected to fire the shots. Of course, chance could have played a role. It is not absurd to suggest, for example, that shortly before the arrival of the motorcade, the two men tossed a coin to decide which man would fire the shots. In such a case, this would mean that it was simply left up to fate whether, in the end, the assassin would be a black man or a 'Communist.' But a more plausible scenario is that the negro was subjected to last minute pressure to be the assassin. If this was the case, the conspirators must have decided by November 22 that they wanted the assassination blamed on a negro rather than a Communist. If this is way events unfolded, the decision to use a negro shooter offers powerful insight into the nature of the conspirators' motives for wanting to do away with Kennedy. If the assassin had been identified, by the evening of November 22, as a negro rather than alleged ‘Communist’ Lee Harvey Oswald, the South would surely have erupted in a giant wave of anti-black violence that the federal government might have taken weeks to bring under control. When one takes into account the extreme volatility of the South at the time when conventional race relations began being challenged by the civil rights movement in the late 1950s and early 1960s, there can be no reason to doubt that such a catastrophe would have been regarded by the most intransigent southern racists as a desirable outcome, one paving the way towards the complete restoration of Jim Crow - possibly even with the tacit consent of most Kennedy liberals. Is there any evidence to support the suggestion that the assassination was intended by its perpetrators to ignite a racial conflagration? Surprisingly, there is, and comes from someone who actively endorsed the coverup. In Plausible Denial, Mark Lane recounts the following, striking exchange he had with the ACLU’s A.L. Wirin: On December 4, 1964, when I debated in Southern California with Joseph A. Ball ... [of the Warren Commission and] A. L. Wirin. ...Wirin made an impassioned plea for support for the findings of the commission.... He said, his voice rising in an earnest plea: ‘I say thank God for Earl Warren. He saved us from a pogrom. He saved our nation. God bless him for what he has done in establishing that Oswald was the lone assassin.’ The audience remained silent. I asked but one question: ‘If Oswald was innocent, Mr. Wirin, would you still say, “Thank God for Earl Warren” and bless him for establishing him as the lone murderer?’ Wirin thought for but an instant. He responded, ‘Yes. I still would say so.’ (p. 52) Mark Lane assumes that Wirin was alluding to the outbreak of hostilities with either the USSR or Cuba. (p. 53) But the word ‘pogrom’ is an inappropriate one to refer to an event of this order. Since pogroms are large-scale outbursts of violence against Jews or other minorities, the only real conclusion one can draw from Wirin’s choice of words is that he was alluding to the prevention of a domestic catastrophe. Wirin’s remarks, which clearly defy justice, can be interpreted as a de facto admission that Lee Harvey Oswald had to be fingered as Kennedy’s assassin in order to avoid the identification of the real assassin. If the identification of the real assassin would have triggered a ‘pogrom,’ then the assassin obviously had to have been a member of a minority group. It is to be greatly regretted that Lane did not ask Wirin who the victims of such a pogrom would have been. The word ‘pogrom’ normally refers to outbreaks of violence directed at Jews, and there is at least one Jewish figure – Jack Ruby – who might well have been one of Kennedy’s assassins. However, the overall political environment in Texas and the other southern states in 1963 was fuelled by racist opposition to Kennedy’s civil rights policies rather than antisemitism. When one factors in what PFC Dinkin had learned, the most reasonable conclusion is that the TSBD shooter had been a black man and that an outbreak of anti-negro violence, rather than war with the Soviet Union, was the actual catastrophe that Hoover, LBJ and the Warren Commission were seeking to avert at all costs. My conclusion, therefore, is that the group that actually plotted and carried out the assassination was the Dallas branch of a radical rightwing group (such as the Ku Klux Klan, the John Birch Society, Conservatism USA, Young Americans for Freedom, or the Minutemen) which was even more opposed to Kennedy’s civil rights policies than it was to Communism. As D-Day loomed, the plotters had decided to lay the blame on a negro precisely in the expectation that the revelation of his identity would trigger massive racial violence. In my judgment, the evidence suggests that the identification of Lee Harvey Oswald as the assassin was a sudden turnaround that almost certainly came as a great surprise to most people involved in the assassination itself. Once the assassination had achieved its goal and a dying president was rushed to Parkland Hospital, decisive intervention by the U.S. military that had nurtured the local racist conspiracy was required to ensure that a black man was not blamed. Beginning at 12.45, when the first description of a suspect was given out over police radio, therefore, the hunt was on for a white suspect. http://elderlynegro....om/custom3.html

There is Anecdotal Evidence pointing to Walker and Hargis having homosexual preferences. The Pentagon also refused to co-operate with the filming of Director Stanley Kubrick’s black comedy masterpiece DR. STRANGELOVE, in which World War III is brought about by the maniacal General Jack (D.) Ripper, a character based upon General Edwin T. Walker. In the film, General Ripper believes his sexual dysfunction is the result of the "Communist plot" to add fluoride to America’s drinking water, thus sapping him of his "precious bodily fluids." The character of General Buck Turgidson, portrayed by George C. Scott, is a satirical portrait of General Curtis LeMay. Thus, while Attorney General Robert Kennedy failed in his attempt to send General Walker to prison, the Kennedy Administration was able to facilitate Walker’s eternal enshrinement on celluloid as the mad - and dangerous - General that he was. http://www.americanm...ticles_426.html As his media power waned, Hargis founded the American Christian College in 1971. Having denounced the Beatles as "godless", he sold his school with cleancut images of its choir, the "All-American Kids", which became a touring show. In 1976, however, Time magazine reported that a student couple, married by Hargis in the college chapel, discovered on their wedding night that both had lost their virginity to Hargis. A number of male choir members accused him of coercing them into sex, justifying his seductions by quoting the example of David lying with Jonathan. Hargis denied the charges, saying communists and Satan were conspiring against him. But Hargis was forced to resign from his college. http://www.guardian....uaries.religion "The All-American Kids" as an example of what clean-cut, moral American youth should be like. However, it wasn't long before stories began circulating that the main purpose of the "All-American Kids" was to keep Hargis provided with a steady supply of young sex partners. Those rumors were confirmed as fact in 1976 when Time magazine, which had been investigating the stories, found two former members of the choir--one male and one female--who had discovered on their wedding night that they had both been having sex with Hargis. Hargis vehemently denied the charges, but as a steady procession of former members of the "All-American Kids" choir, both male and female, came forward to corroborate the students' stories, and many others told their own stories of Hargis' sexual predations on both male and female members, he was forced to disband the "All-American Kids" and shut down American Christian College. In spite of scandals such as these, Hargis still fervently pushed his ultra-right-wing fundamentalist Christian political beliefs, and published many books decrying Communist "influence" in everyday American life. He died in November of 2004. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0362920/bio "Hargis had allegedly justified his acts by citing the Old Testament friendship between David and Jonathan and, just in case his victims were minded to consult biblical texts that were sympathetic, threatened to 'blacklist' them for life if they talked. When he was confronted by his colleagues, he allegedly admitted his guilt, blaming his behaviour on 'genes and chromosomes.' http://dutroux.blogs...mes-hargis.html General Walker was exposed as a closeted gay and accomplished Hypocrite when he was arrested in 1976 for soliciting sex from another man in a men's room in Dallas, Texas, and again in 1977 under similar charges, for which he was convicted. As for the Reverend Billy James Hargis, his secret personal failings were exposed in a 1976 issue of Time Magazine. The Time article noted how two of his students at his Bible College, who had been married in a ceremony officiated by the Reverend, confessed to each other on their Wedding night that neither were a Virgin; both the groom and his wife had lost their Virginity to Reverend Hargis. Several other young men, part of Hargis' "All-American Kids" youth choir also came forward to allege that Hargis had engaged in sex with them. Like Walker, Hargis has attained a place in popular culture as the inspiration of the lead character in radio personality Don Imus' satirical novel GOD'S OTHER SON. http://www.americanm...ticles_477.html General Edwin Walker was without doubt a fine military commander and expert military tactician. In addition, he was without doubt a sincere American Nationalist and strong anti-communist. While serving in the European theater, General Walker prepared and disseminated among his troops an excellent indoctrination against communism which was referred to as the "pro-blue" program. This program was very beneficial and much needed. It should have been made available to all troops of the United States everywhere. Unfortunately, this excellent work was done by a man who was known to his enemies as being a secret homosexual. To destroy the effectiveness of Walker's pro-blue program, evidence was given to higher military authorities regarding his homosexual relationships with other men in and out of military service. Arch Roberts, then a Major serving under General Walker, was one of several persons named as being active in these homosexual contacts. In the face of undeniable evidence, General Walker was forced to resign. After his return to the United States, he began giving lectures in which he stated that he had been removed solely because of the pro-blue program and that he had voluntarily refused to accept any retirement benefits. These papers, referred to previously, prove that Walker was forced to resign and waive all retirement benefits in return for an agreement by military authorities not to bring criminal charges against him which would have resulted in public disclosure of his homosexual behavior and that of others. After his return to Dallas, Texas, General Walker decided to run for Governor of that state and became temporarily active in the Nationalist movement in that area. Gradually, he became shunned by other Nationalists who observed his living in obvious homosexual relationship with a young man that he referred to as his "adjutant". For several weeks, General Walker traveled with Billy James Hargis sharing the speaker's platform and often times sharing his bed as well. During this period and in subsequent years, Walker's mental abilities began to deteriorate and he began wandering aimlessly through the streets and parks of Dallas. On several occasions, he was arrested as a public nuisance or for soliciting homosexual contacts but released by police officers that did not want to discredit his previously fine reputation. Finally, in 1976, Walker was arrested and stood public trial for making homosexual solicitations to a Dallas park plain clothes security officer. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TSTT5qi46j4J:iamthewitness.com/doc/Deguello-Report.rtf+did+general+walker+have+a+affair+with+hargis&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

That would be my opinion also,get the old guy driving,reflexes are slowing down for most of us post fifty,he was probably a good chauffeur,but not necessarily good at tactical driving.In fact modern law enforcement officers who train in fishtailing would know more about tactical driving than Greer.He was more up to driving,"Miss Daisey." In my opinion.A smooth ride,but that is about it.Plus with JFK,s bad back,I would think he liked a smooth ride.

If Bill Greer,did indeed,purposely stop the car.To take that sort of risk,of being found out.To be part of a conspiracy.I would have expected him to have received a substantial reward for doing so.Even if he hated Kennedy,although there is nothing to prove this,he would have wanted,expected a fair amount of cash,I believe. After the Assassination was there anything to suggest that Bill Greer became more wealthy that his pay would suggest.Did he buy a nice car and a big house for instance,did he leave a substantial amount when he died. If we are to take the Secret Service stand down as a part of the plot.And it does look a bit odd seeing those guys jump of the back of the car at Love Field Airport.How many would you have to buy of. But if all you need is a big car to slow down,in a hard to make turn to get a good shot. Greer's head turn was a bit weird,especially a second look.He was getting toward retiring age and suffering from ulcers.But I would like to see some evidence of him either being blackmailed,was he a gambler in debt for instance,or some show of large financial gain. Abraham Boden suggests that Secret Service agents discussed saying they would not put there life in danger in a attempt on JFK's Life.Even if that is in there Job Description.How many would really stand and take the hit. If bullets were coming from different directions,if confusion reigned,and the knowledge that the Secret Service would do little to protect the President.Why risk buying them off,bringing them into the loop. That is my opinion at any rate.

Thank you both for your comments,much appreciated.Having further looked around with Mr Google's assistance I came across this. At any reasonable distance, both the conical and spherical waves are essentially plane waves with respect to a small object such as an observer's head. Thus, to determine the apparent locus of the source, we need only take a perpendicular to the appropriate wavefront as it sweeps over the observer. Figure 2 shows the geometry of the two waves at two different times. The shock wave, at time 1, has just reached the observer; its apparent locus is along the path of the bullet on a perpendicular to the shock wave. At this time, the wave from the muzzle blast has not reached the observer. At time 2, when the blast wave has reached the observer, the apparent source of the shot is on a perpendicular to the plane of the spherical blast wave and, therefore, at the muzzle of the rifle. The buildings around the Plaza caused strong reverberations, or echoes, that followed the initial sound by from 0.5 to 1.5 sec. While these reflections caused no confusion to our listeners, who were prepared and expected ot hear them, they may well have inflated the number of shots reported by the suprised witnesses during the assassination. The source of these echoes can be predicted from the general geometry of the Plaza. For example, one hears a very strong reflection from the Post Office Annex that arrives about 1 sec after the shot, regardless of whether the rifle is fired from the TSBD or the knoll. Because of the long delay, a listener located on the knoll would recognize this as an echo but might place the source somewhere in back of him, anywhere from the TSBD to the railway overpass. Note:Paragraphs of interest taken,but better to read the full article. Source: http://jfkassassinat...jfk8/sound2.htm

I believe the assassination of President John F Kennedy was a military job.So the tactics used would be military,meaning you need crossfire in a ambush to get a job done to a satisfactory conclusion.Also,once the shooting started,he had to die,it would be a fiasco if he got away wounded.For he would use all at his disposal to pursue,capture his attackers. The shots that went of in Dealey Plaza,would have caused echoes because of the high buildings in that area.I am sure this would add to the confusion,purposely to confuse how many bullets were fired and were they were coming from.Add to that if you use weapons with silencers,Possibly like the Welrod.A WW11 British made assassination pistol.From the Stockade fence or other areas close to the presidential car. Info on Welrod. Production of the larger, more powerful and more effective 9mm Welrod Mk.I commenced in 1944, on request of the British Special operations forces. The latter model survived for a quite long time, and some 9mm Welrod Mk.I pistols were apparently still in operational use by British Special Operations forces as late as in 1991, during the operation Desert Storm. Source: http://world.guns.ru...d-silent-e.html I would even go as far as say,if he had survived getting out of Dealey Plaza itself,by something short of a miracle.There would have been men on the underpass to finish the job. Jim Marrs, in his book Crossfire, relates the story of Julius Hardee. Hardee told The Dallas Morning News that on the morning of November 22nd he saw three men on top of the Triple underpass carrying either shotguns or rifles. Whether these men were police officers or not is unknown. Hardee claimed he reported the incident to the FBI but no report about the incident has surfaced. Source: http://www.acorn.net...ue/guns_dp.html Because it seems the Zapruder film is possibly tampered with.The autopsy at Bethseda Naval Hospital was possibly compromised.The presidential limousine was stripped out.It is very hard to prove conclusively,either way,were all the shots come from. But I would think,someone fired from the front.Perhaps this is why Greer did not put his foot down.If he was uncertain which way the shots were coming from.My opinion is Greer did a shoddy job,and movement would have made the target harder.But I don't think he was bought of to stop.But that is just my opinion. I am not sure if most of this has been covered already.If so sorry,if not,perhaps something useful can come out of looking at it again.

I remember this being shown as a docudrama in 2006.It was a good programme. Harold Wilson's belief that he was the victim of a secret service plot to discredit him is well documented. But new revelations in BBC drama documentary The Plot Against Harold Wilson, to be broadcast next Thursday, suggest the Labour prime minister was also convinced he was the target of plans to stage a military coup - and that the Royal Family backed it. The story sounds barely credible - a sign, perhaps, that Wilson was suffering from paranoia - but it is backed up by corroborating interviews with other senior figures from the time. The then BBC journalist Barrie Penrose has outlined some of the detail of the new evidence in an article in this week's Radio Times. He stresses the need to bear in mind the backdrop to the alleged plots, telling the magazine: "Our establishment, from the intelligence services down to parts of Fleet Street, were paranoid about the threat of communism. So paranoid it seems, they were prepared to believe a prime minister of Britain was an active Soviet spy." At a time of continuing Cold War tensions, industrial unrest was rife, the country had suffered power cuts and a three day working week and in 1975 the government was being warned privately that the economy faced "wholesale domestic liquidation" unless it could tame inflation. While some on the hard left believed revolution was imminent, former military figures angry at the extent of union control were building private armies, in preparation for the coming conflict. Fears And it is these mercenaries, the programme says, that Wilson feared would be used to stage a coup against him - and that the British army might not come to his aid. In his book Spycatcher, Peter Wright tells of a plot to force Wilson's resignation by MI5 agents convinced he was a Communist spy. Wright's account is often dismissed as an exaggeration, but the drama documentary claims fresh evidence of plots. The meetings with Wilson the programme is based on were secretly recorded in 1976 by journalists Barrie Penrose and Roger Courtiour, weeks after his shock departure from Number 10. "Wilson spoke darkly of two military coups which he said had been planned to overthrow his government in the late 1960s and in the mid 1970s," Penrose writes. "Both were said to involve high-ranking elements in the British army, eager to see the back of Labour governments. "Both involved a member of the Royal Family - Prince Louis Mountbatten." Lord Mountbatten would be installed as an interim prime minister following the military coup, Wilson believed. Secret recordings Baroness Falkender, Wilson's political secretary, also told the two journalists about her belief military coups had been planned and that she and Wilson would be arrested with the rest of the Labour cabinet, Penrose writes in the Radio Times. "Unbeknown to Wilson, Courtiour and I secretly recorded many of our meetings with him, almost always conducted at his Georgian house at 5 Lord North Street, close to the House of Commons," Penrose says. "The cumbersome machine was smuggled into his study in a briefcase carried by Courtiour. Over a period of nine months we accumulated hours of tape recordings. Those tapes have, since then, remained untouched in the loft of my Kent home and at Courtiour's London home." Wilson told the journalists they "should investigate the forces that are threatening democratic countries like Britain". They were also startled to be told at their first meeting with him: "Occasionally when we meet I might tell you to go to the Charing Cross Road and kick a blind man standing on the corner. That blind man may tell you something, lead you somewhere." The pair were never asked to go to Charing Cross Road but Wilson went on to tell them about his distrust of a group of MI5 officers, who he said were trying to smear him by planting stories in the press about him being an adulterer and a Communist spy. In one of the secretly recorded tapes Wilson says: "I am not certain that for the last eight months when I was prime minister I knew what was happening, fully, in security." New witnesses interviewed for the programme talk about these military coups and Mountbatten's role in them. Penrose says they confirm such plotting "wasn't in the fevered imagination of an embittered ex-PM". Penrose concludes his Radio Times article: "You may ask, at the end of the programme, how much of it can be believed. My view now, as it was then, is that Wilson was right in his fears.... in answer to the question 'how close did we come to a military government' I can only say - closer than we'd ever be content to think." Source: http://news.bbc.co.u...ics/4789060.stm

Re-Abraham Bolden. In his book, Bolden writes about agents drinking while on duty, bringing unknown women into hotel rooms while traveling with the president, blatant disregard for agency protocol and how there was a colossal protection failure of the Secret Service on that fateful November afternoon in Dallas. Bolden himself suffered from what happened in Dallas. In the wake of the Kennedy assassination, Bolden contacted the Warren Commission, hoping to testify about an alleged assassination plot in Chicago two weeks before Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas. He traveled to Washington but before he could testify, Bolden was returned to Chicago where he was arrested on May 20, 1964, on federal charges that he had solicited a bribe from a counterfeiting ring that ironically he had helped break. On numerous occasions he told his superiors in the Secret Service about the behavior of fellow agents in the weeks before Kennedy’s death and says nothing was done. Bolden said he was framed by rogue agents and spent over three years in a federal prison after his conviction during a second trial by an all-white jury. The first trial ended in a hung jury after the lone African-American juror, Anna B. Hightower, refused to vote guilty, he writes in “The Echoes from Dealey Plaza.” To this day Bolden is still trying to clear his conviction and there is a growing movement to have it expunged from his record or have him pardoned by President Obama. But Bolden said any attempts to have his record erased that will force him to admit to any form of guilt is something he is not interested in. Source: http://www.newsinbla...19bb30f31a.html

Looks good Mr Simkin. I noticed since the change that my spell checker on Firefox was not working.This happened to me on another forum after a upgrade.I remedied this by doing a right click,check spelling should be ticked but also move the cursor down to languages,make sure your selected language,mine being English/UK has a dot beside it.If not click it and a dot will appear.I have just done this and my spell checker is now working.It might help someone who uses Firefox.

Paul Trejo said,"Yet let's take this to its logical conclusion. If the Military was ultimately behind the JFK assassination, then we can't really call it a coup d'etat anymore, because the Military didn't take over the White House. The Military didn't dismiss the Congress. Not directly. That's the proper mark of a coup d'etat." Yes Paul,the term Coup d'etat would be the wrong word.They knew once they removed JFK,that LBJ, a old school type person,would listen to the military,take advice from them,act upon their advice.JFK was a loose cannon as far as they were concerned. I have learned a lot about General E Walker from reading your posts,and others here,in fact you and some others undoubtedly helped me to reach my conclusion.I always thought the Assassination was a military black ops type operation.I suspected the military,but your work on Walker helped me join the Dots. Thank You.

This is my second post,first being biography,but a question on who killed JFK seems a good place to start,to give you a idea of my viewpoint. I think as in most Coup d'état.It was the Military.To expand,going back to 1963 we have to think in that context.Only 18 years after the end of WW11.Russia was seen as the enemy.Everyone or most people in the West expected a conflict with Russia.I know growing up most of my peers thought a nuclear war with Russia,or the USSR as then was,seemed likely. You have Generals Like Edwin Walker,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Walker.Curis Le May,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_LeMay,Edward Lansdale,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Lansdale.All gung ho types.They wanted Kennedy to intervene in the Bay of Pigs,and they wanted him to do a first strike in the Cuban Missile crisis.Add to that the humiliation of General Edwin Walker being committed to a psychiatric institute.And you have some top level Generals who hated President John F Kennedy with a passion. Then you have JFK,s stance on Vietnam,about to pull out of a war.Generals want a war,its what they trained for.Its putting theory into practice.Am I as good as Robert E Lee. Also talks with Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev,the President of the USSR,on arms reduction. I am sure these Generals thought JFK was a Commie,a pinko.a Traitor. I think to these Generals Taking out JFK was a moral duty. I doubt if LBJ was a plotter,probably was given a nod and a wink,you want to be President.Turn the other way and cover up,or something like that.Hoover would probably have wanted to kiss whoever killed JFK,and sure as hell would have little interest in finding out who really did it. Oswald seems likely to have been military intelligence.And was probably a patsy has he claimed. I think had JFK lived,the world would be a much better place.If his arms reduction was successful then we would have avoided the massive cost of the arms race,we might have also avoided Vietnam.And the high price both monetarily and in the lives of those that were lost.

I hale from Lancashire,in the North of the United Kingdom.I am 55 years old and medically retired. I watched the News in 1963,the day John Fitzgerald Kennedy was murdered.As a six year old,I was aware that something realy bad had happened in the world.I kept a interest in the Presidents murder and bought my first book,The Assassination Chain by Bert Sugar and Sybil Leek many years ago.I also watched programmes like,The Men Who Killed Kennedy in the early eighties,if I recall right.I have gone on to read many books,Crossfire by Jim Marrs,The Maffia Killed Kennedy etc. Then I got my first computer in 2008,and that opened up a whole new world for me.I watched a few forums,and for a couple of years I have been following this forum.Which I found to be the most interesting and visit nearly daily to see what is new. I have downloaded some books from here,thanks to Barry Krusch,just finished reading Kill Zone.A very interesting book by a ex police officer. I am definately in the CT group and not the Lone Nut.I am not a authority on the JFK case but think I might have the odd thing to offer. My belief is JFK was killed by people high up in the US Government.The Generals like Edwin Walker and Curtis Le May were in good positions to get a job like this done.Plus having General Walker committed,would make someone like him, hate the Kennedys with a fury.They would in no doubt see JFK has a Pinko,or Communist,and feel that relieving him of the Presidency would be a duty,not a betrayal.Those are my thoughts anyway. I belive Oswald was a patsy,just has he claimed.He no doubt,in my mind at any rate,worked for American Intelligence.