Robert Mady

I really didn't expert more from you, THOMAS, so I am not really surprised by your non-response non-sense.

THOMAS Please post reasonable explanations for what can be observed concerning the CONNALLYS. I am sure Courts would differ with you on the significance of testimony. Are you also implying that the testimonies of JOHN CONNALLY and NELLIE CONNALLY could not sustain cross-examination?

THOMAS I am posting evidence that conflicts with WC/R theories and Conspiracy theories. I understand that it may be upsetting to you, this is called cognitive dissonance. If you have explanations for this evidence a suggestion might be to start posting.

Governor CONNALLY. A very, very brief span of time. Again my trend of thought just happened to be, I suppose along this line, I immediately thought that this--that I had been shot. I knew it when I just looked down and I was covered with blood, and the thought immediately passed through my mind that there were either two or three people involved or more in this or someone was shooting with an automatic rifle. These were just thoughts that went through my mind because of the rapidity of these two, of the first shot plus the blow that I took, and I knew I had been hit, and I immediately assumed, because of the amount of blood, and in fact, that it had obviously passed through my chest. that I had probably been fatally hit. So I merely doubled up, and then turned to my right again and began to--I just sat there, and Mrs. Connally pulled me over to her lap. The Zapruder film does not show that CONNALLY doubled up nor does it show he looked down to see that he was covered in blood. What it does show is CONNALLY scooting forward so he can turning 90 degrees in his seat, which he does. then peers into the back seat for a few moments, observes the President already wounded. Then lays back over the top of NELLIE. Although CONNALLY Hospital confession And then we had just turned the corner, we heard a shot, I turned to my left, I was sitting in the jump seat, I turned to my left to look into the backseat. The President had ‘slumped’ he had said nothing. Almost simultaneously as I turned I was hit and I knew I had been hit badly and ah, I said ‘my god their going to kill us all’ and then there was a third shot and the President was hit again and we thought then very seriously, I had still regained consciousness but the President had ‘slumped’ in Mrs. KENNEDYS lap and when he was hit the second time she said…or the first time, it happened in such a brief span, she said ‘oh my god they killed my husband’ said ‘JACK, JACK’ and then after the third shot. WC Testimony ...and again I did not see the President at any time either after the first, second, or third shots IT is apparent that from Z-254 to Z-290 CONNALLY IS looking into the back seat...which CONNALLY do we believe the WC CONNALLY or the Hospital CONNALLY or should we just believe the ZAPRUDER film cause it is undeniable that CONNALLY turns and looks at the President for some time before laying back over the top of NELLIE?

I hope you give this some thought. If MRS CONNALLY had not turned sideways and leaned back against the limo door, JOHN CONNALLY would not have been able to lay back on top of her, he would have only been able to lean back against her shoulder or lay across her lap in front of her... Humm... what does this all mean? MRS CONNALLY I just pulled him over into my arms because it would have been impossible to get us really both down with me sitting and me holding him. So that I looked out, I mean as he was in my arms, I put my head down over his head so that his head and my head were right together, and all I could see, too, were the people flashing by. I didn't look back any more. Sounds like she had prepared to have JOHN CONNALLY lay down over the top of her, or am I reading something into this confused statement from her?

I never again looked in the back seat of the car after my husband was shot. Really? MRS CONNALLY can be seen to look back at KENNEDY starting at frame Z-256 and again at Z-289. Maybe what MRS CONNALLY means is that after her husband is wounded after Z-325, she never looks back at KENNEDY again. She seems to be very confused, no wonder her testimony can not be corroborated by what can be observed in the ZAPRUDER film.

Thomas It is a logical conclusion. Using the yellow roses to indicate her location does seem to be reasonable, why else would a person frantically wave bright colored objects, other than to draw attention? Why is MRS CONNALLY continuing to grasp onto a bouquet of flowers? Mrs. CONNALLY. No, he turned away from me. I was pretending that I was him. I never again looked in the back seat of the car after my husband was shot. My concern was for him, and I remember that he turned to the right and then just slumped down into the seat, so that I reached over to pull him toward me. X was trying to get him down and me down. The jump seats were not very roomy, so that there were reports that he slid into the seat of the car, which he did not; that he fell over into my lap, which he did not. MRS CONNALLY claimed she reached over and pulled CONNALLY toward her, one handed I would guess, although MRS CONNALLY can not be discerned to make any movement to assist CONNALLY to lay back on top of her. As a matter of FACT MRS CONNALLY does not seem to take notice of CONNALLY as he is laying back on top of her...note the yellow roses can be seen being held near her left shoulder. MRS CONNALLY in case you didn't notice is sitting sideways with her back flush against the limo door since at least before Z-232...hum what could that mean?

Not only does MRS CONNALLY retain a bouquet of yellow roses clutched tightly in her left fist through out the assassination she appears to began to frantically wave them over her back after CONNALLY topples to his left. Is there significance to the yellow roses?

MRS CONNALLY: WC TESTIMONY I thought John had been killed, and then there was some imperceptible movement, just some little something that let me know that there was still some life, and that is when I started saying to him, "It's all right. Be still." Now, I did hear the Secret Service man say, "Pull out of the motorcade. Take us to the nearest hospital," and then we took out very rapidly to the hospital. Just before we got to Parkland, we made a right-hand turn, he must have been going very fast, because as he turned the weight of my husband's body almost toppled us both. Do you think MRS CONNALLY was looking for some perceptible signs of movement from CONNALLY prior to Z-325? Was MRS CONNALLY saying "It's all right. Be still." prior to Z-325? According to testimony she started cooing to JOHN prior to 'Now, I did hear the Secret Service man say, "Pull out of the motorcade.' It would seem that CONNALLY got the toppling correct, but failed to recall accurately when it occurred and what caused it. The devil is in the details is it not?

CONNALLY can be seen to be driven down and to his left at Z-325 Coincidently or NOT, MRS KENNEDY starts to bolt from the limo following Z-325. The reason MRS KENNEDY tries to flee the limo is because gunfire continued after Z-313.

I don't have an animated gif prepared to show MRS KENNEDYS actions following Z-313 But if you can be bothered to reference the stills you may discover that MRS KENNEDY gets up and can be seen climbing onto the trunk before looking back at the trunk or where she has intentions to go. The FACT that MRS KENNEDY does not look towards the rear before starting to climb out of the limo in itself negates the non-sense that she had climbed onto the trunk to retrieve a portion of KENNEDYS head. MRS KENNEDY is hindered by GREER accelerating the limo to get out of danger. You can see MRS KENNEDY loose balance, which appears she is reaching out, this action was to maintain balance and keep from toppling backward as the limo quickly accelerates. MRS KENNEDY moves back to her seat because the limo was picking up speed and CLINT HILL had come to her assistance. It is there to see, go look.

As a researcher - you have been hoodwinked into believing that the term 'slumped' generally applied to how KENNEDY was described following the 'firecracker' like sound. The truth is that generally witnesses are describing KENNEDY after the shot at Z-313. This is how 'they' changed the timing of the assassination. Witnesses, including SSA and even MRS KENNEDY did not comprehend that the President had been wounded prior to Z-313 or the fatal head shot occurring. After Z-313 the President then 'slumped' then moments later was seen to fall to his left into the seat after the shot at Z-325 when MRS KENNEDY realized gunfire was continuing, bolted from her seat.

Video capture is from 'Rush to Judgement' BREHM showing how the hair moved forward, notice where he places his hand... BREHM recognized the crack from high powered rifle immediately! BREHM claimed the limo moved only "10-12 feet" during the "three shots". (mirroring BOWERS and MOORMAN in rapidity of the shots) BREHM thought that maybe it was the second shot that knocked KENNEDY down in his seat, we know it was MRS KENNEDY escaping from the gunfire continuing to pummel the occupants of the limo, when MRS KENNEDY released her husband, he toppled over onto her side of the seat.

"A Mrs. Mary Moorman was in the office with a picture of the President getting shot. I asked her if she had any more pictures and she said she did. I got all these pictures and looked at them and in one picture Mrs. Moorman had taken a picture of - the lead motorcycle officer, in the background of this picture was a picture of the Sexton Building and the window where the gunman sat when doing the shooting. I took this picture to Chief Criminal Deputy Sheriff, Allan Sweatt, who later turned it over to Secret Service Officer Patterson." (Report of Deputy-Sheriff John Wiseman, Nov. 23, 1963; Decker Exh. 5323, XIX, 487.)

Is there photographic evidence to back up MOORMAN, J HILL, HUDSON and SUMMERS that the high powered rifle shots started at Z-313: FRAME Z-313 - impact to President KENNEDY FRAME Z-325 - impact to CONNALLY FRAMES showing witnesses continuing to have a reactions long after Z-313 even until Z-415 Is there evidence of a shot at around Z-190 - hard to tell when KENNEDY is struck, but we can see the reaction of SSA looking toward the knoll immediately after frame Z-190. We also know based on claims by W NEWMAN, G NEWMAN and J NEWMAN that a noise was first heard as the limo approached their location, none of these witnesses recognized the noise as anything other than maybe a 'firecracker' none of these witnesses comprehended that KENNEDY had been wounded by it. MRS KENNEDY did not hear the noise nor understand her husband had been shot in the throat as a result. KENNEDY turned because CONNALLY started "yelling".

Or is HILL and ROBERTS trying to figure out what was occurring in the limo? HILL moves to the limo as a reaction to seeing CONNALLY lay back on top of NELLIE, this is the cause for HILL taking action. CONNALLY lays back on top of NELLIE just a moment before the shot that caused the fatal head wound is fired and HILL is on the move to the limo as the shot that caused the fatal head wound occurs. HILL claimed to move to the limo prior to the 'second' shot having been fired. This claim was echoed by SSA LANDIS SSA ROBERTS PO MARTIN

Here is Agent Hill seen until ~Z-255 Why has he not reacted to the second shot from a high powered rifle that supposedly occurred around Z-220 or Z-230 ? HILL can be seen apparently consulting with ROBERTS, do you believe the SSA are standing down while gunfire is sounding in DP?

Robert, you claim ALTGENS #6 is proof that READY, LANDIS and HICKEY can be seen to react to the sound of a shot or two shots by looking to the rear of their vehicle, these actions are occurring at Z-255. In this animated gif you can see PO CHANEY, MARTIN and HARGIS, SSA LANDIS, READY, HICKEY and HILL also of note is MCINTYRE.PO CHANEY, MARTIN and HARGIS and SSA MCINRYRE apparently never react to shot being fired. SSA LANDIS, READY, HICKEY and HILL can be seen to react after Z-190 by simultaneously looking toward the grassy knoll. No one looks to the rear, at least until sometime after Z-210 SSA LANDIS, READY and HICKEY most likely are seen looking toward the rear in ALTGENS #6 because they are surveying the crowd because they could not identity the source of the noise they heard at Z-190. DO not forget in ALTGENS #6 SSA LANDIS, READY and HICKEY are not looking up they do not appear to be looking at the same location, they are surveying the crowd, just as they claimed they did. The animated gif posted previously should show the result of a second shot from a high powered rifle, there is no reaction discernible. This evidence must also be disregarded, correct? 2 witnesses over two blocks away from DP claimed to hear three shots 19 sheriff deputies outside of DP claimed to hear three shots from a high powered rifle. You are holding onto and promoting an illusion.

There is an ongoing argument whether or not 10 Secret Service Agents stood down as the gunfire was sounding. There is another possibility - the first shot made a noise, Secret Service Agents LANDIS, READY, HICKEY and HILL heard this noise and reacted by looking to the grassy knoll, the source of the 'firecracker' like sound. They could not determine that the noise was a threat. The next sound they heard was at Z-313, when a volley of shots were fired. They reacted then, but it was too late. Your understanding of the assassination maybe the problem, it may not have been a stand down of 10 SS Agents and 2 officials from the White House riding in the follow-up car.

It appears that researchers are the only ones that believes a shot from a 'high powered rifle' has occurred, with absolute certainty there is not a witnesses in Dealey Plaza that can be seen to react until after the fatal head wound at Z-313. The belief that there were 'high powered rifle' shots before Z-313 is delusional, this belief is absolutely unsupported by photographic evidence, I hope this can be understood.

How is it MOORMAN insistence that the first shot she hears is at the moment she took the Polaroid of the fatal head shot and other witnesses nearest the limo agree. MOORMAN JEAN HILL HUDSON SUMMERS Or that CLINT HILL moved to the limo before the second shot was heard. CLINT HILL LANDIS ROBERTS MARTIN Are these witnesses mistaken and must be wrong because they don't convey 'your' conception of the assassination or some 'pundit's proposed solution, so these witnesses claims may justifiably be ignored? As a researcher are you looking for pieces of evidence to fill the gaps in your personal theory of the assassination or are you allowing evidence to build a theory? Or like professors that spent their lives proving the world is flat going to defend a problematic perspective till death. Have you allowed government and news media propaganda to dictate the foundation of the assassination and this is the structure your trying to build a theory upon. Why would you allow their three shot non-sense to dictate 'your' personal scenario, when it's clear it is non functional for the WC/R theory and all conspiracy theories? The research community can't come to a consensus on when the first shot occurs or the second, when JC is injured or TAGUE. Have You bound yourself to the three shots fired at the speed of a Carcano rifle, are you just mentally stuck with fiction produced by a deceptive system that has lied to us from the first moment of news broadcast?

'Rush to Judgement' LANE: Mr. BOWERS how many shots did you hear? BOWERS: There were three shots and these were spaced one shot and a pause, then two shots in very close order, such as perhaps ( KNOCKS ON TABLE THREE TIMES) almost on top of each other while there was some pause between the first and second shots. --- WFAA interview of MARY MOORMAN 11/22/1963 MOORMAN: "...There were three or four shots real close together, must have been the first one that shot him cause that was the time I took the picture...." Amazing isn't it, both BOWERS and MOORMAN say the same thing, all of the shots they heard happened almost simultaneously. Note: MOORMAN tells us that the first shot is the one that caused the fatal head wound referenced by the Polaroid she took at the moment of the first shot. MOORMAN goes on to describe taking the Polaroid at (Z-313) the moment she heard the 'first' shot - other shots then followed. WFAA interview of MARY MOORMAN 11/22/1963 MOORMAN: "...After I took the picture, and the shots were still being fired, I decided I better get on the ground...." As Researchers - how do you decide which piece of evidence is relevant and significant? If it fits 'your' personal view of the assassination or not? Well it is obvious MARY MOORMAN and LEE BOWERS must be mistaken, right, this is correct right?

'Rush to Judgment' by LANE At 1:03:14 LANE talks about a Polaroid photograph that MOORMAN took, confiscated by a Federal Officer. LANE appears to be reading directly out of a Warren Commission Volume, but does not quote who testimony or Report came from, here is what LANE reads: Federal Agent: "...MRS MOORMAN had taken a picture of the lead motorcycle officer, in the background of this picture was a picture of the Book Depository Building and the window where the gunman sat when doing the shooting." Anyone know who provided this testimony to the WC?