Lee Forman

This started out as a post reply to Antti, but evolved, so I decided to rephrase it and create a separate post. There are a myriad of issues surrounding this individual, including whether or not he had a lookalike double, whether he was in fact the same man who had emigrated to the the U.S.S.R. and returned, why he was reported to have been in multiple places at multiple times over multiple longterm periods in his life, etc. I'm currently reading "Harvey and Lee" by John Armstrong. Jack White has also done considerable work on the photographs of "Lee Harvey Oswald" and contributed to the effort, as did a large number of other researchers including Jim Marrs, Rich DellaRosa, Nigel Turner, etc]. The premise of the book is that "Lee Harvey Oswald" may have been a coded identity created by the CIA for the cover of 2 specific people; one who went by the name Harvey, and another who went by Lee. Some info: http://home.wi.rr.com/harveyandlee/ The theory is sound, if you consider the existence of other operations such as this one within the Intelligence communities, with the use of twin brothers, and lookalikes, in addition to eye-witness accounts AND documentation [that is to say, the documentation that wasn't sealed]. This concept goes a long way towards resolving many of the conflicts concerning LHO being in 2 places at the same time, his seemingly native ability to speak fluent Russian, etc. As noted by several people that met him, and also introduced in the Oliver Stone film, the LHO that was caught in the Texas Theatre spoke incredibly good English [stone has him speaking with an accent] as if he was carefully choosing his words, almost alluding to Oswalds speaking English as a second language. If he was raised in New York and New Orleans, and lived for a time in Texas, I would have imagined a different accent from what I have heard in his radio stint and news broadcasts. John's theory goes a bit like this: "Harvey" spoke Russian, may have been the decent of a Hungarian Immigrant, was softspoken in manner and was the Patsy who was captured and executed. "Lee" was more of an athletic build, a hard drinker and was most likely taller? "Lee" would have been the marine, "Harvey" would have been the emigree to Moscow. Witnesses attest that their knowledge of this 'individual' differed, as some who knew him said he preferred to be called "Harvey" while the other would have started a fistfight if you were to have used this middle name. "Lee" was also introduced as "Leon," registered as OH Lee in his boarding house, and I believe there were other variants. Marina said once, and I found it an interesting quote, paraphrased "I was married to 2 men, one who was the father to my children, and the other that assassinated the President of the US." What the hell is that supposed to mean? And if she has the authority to release the IRS records currently under wraps for her ex-husband, why won't she? How difficult is this? I could draft the letter and include a stamped, pre-addessed envelope. Another interesting line of questioning regards differences in height, temperament, ideology, stature, etc. Were there 2 individuals operating with the code name Lee Harvey Oswald, and if so, how closely did they work with one another? If so, how closely did they resemble one another? A few more points/questions: Who did Bernard J. Haire witness being led out the back of the Texas Theatre in handcuffs during LHOs arrest? Why did testimony differ in descriptions of LHO on his bus ride? Is it possible that the 2 men were on the bus together, and that one was recognized by his former landlady? Did Alek J. Hiddell have a Social Security number? Lee Harvey Oswald was witnessed by T.F. White at 2:00pm, 11/22/63 - which is impossible, as he was incarcerated at that time. White got a license plate of the '61 Red Falcon which was tracked as belonging to a '57 Plymouth which was registered to Carl Mather - a good friend of JD Tippit [it would be great to know if this plate matched the car in the photo of General Walker's driveway]. Was this "Lee?" Did any Texas Book employees note Oswald leaving the building on one or more occasions to hit the Jiffy store at 310 S. Industrial to buy beer and pico brittle candy? That's a good 7 minute walk in one direction. 8:30am and again at 9:00am. The Lee Harvey Oswald photographed in Mexico City at the embassy [in November?] of 1963 is another interesting item worth noting. The guy looks nothing like him - potentially increasing the number of people using this identity to 3 [or even 4 based on Bannister's Jeep deal]. John, I'd love to put this question of the 2 Oswalds to Judith Baker - what do you think?

Hello. My name is Lee Forman. Born in 1966, I had written several reports on the JFK assassination back in my High School days in the early 1980s, concluding that a conspiracy was unquestionable. My interest in the case began in part due to my older brother's curiousity, as he had been born November 23, 1963. I am at present a Sales Director working in the Telecom sector. I received my Bachelors in Political Science at Messiah College in Pennsylvania in 1991. My interest in the JFK assassination debate was renewed following my learning of letters which had been sent to A&E by Ladybird Johnson, Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter, criticizing the airing of "The Guilty Men" on the History Channel, due to it's implication of Lyndon Baines Johnson as a conspirator.

I've done what research I could on Mary Pinchot Meyer including the following: - Katharine the Great by Deborah Davis - Washinton post [10 articles mainly devoted to the murder and trial] - Flashbacks by Timothy Leary - A very private woman by Nina Burleigh - Internet research [Ramparts, etc.] - The Assassinations by Probe - CIA using the JFK Freedom of Information Act [7 pages of completely redacted material dated 1951, save for 2 useless paragraphs] The FBI has requested that I include proof that she is deceased before they will provide me any information - I have the obituary from the Washington Post also, but haven't yet taken the time to reply. I would like to know what anyone else may have available, or any other potential leads. Here are some of the hi-level facts: - Mistress to JFK - Wife to Cord Meyer of CIA - Friends with Bill Bradley of Washington post - Potentially was seeking to influence peace and change through the experimental use of LSD - may have had a session with JFK - Murdered allegedly by Roy Crump Jr., who was not convicted in what appeared similar to a Sirhan Sirhan MKULTRA / Manchurian Candidate targetted killing. - Diary/Sketchbook with notes collected, sorted, documented by James Jesus Angleton - Diary/Sketchbook burned by friends I also understand that Robert Morrow wrote about her, but I have yet to read his account [paraphrased in "A Private Woman," and understand that his credibility was deemed unreliable by the HSCA. I also know that she most likely is mentioned in material on James Jesus Angleton [Master Spy, or something like that], but don't anticipate learning much from this source. Was she working for the CIAs MKULTRA project? If she was the victim of a targetted 'assassination, why? What did she know that would have made her a threat? From "Flashbacks" by Timothy Leary, J.P. Tarcher, Inc., Los Angeles, copyright 1983, page 194. "I could hardly understand her [Mary]. She was either drunk or drugged or overwhelmed with grief. Or all three. 'They couldn't control him anymore. He was changing too fast.' Long pause. Hysterical crying. I spoke reassurance. She sobbed. 'They've covered everything up. I gotta come see you. I'm afraid. Be careful.' The line went dead. Worried, I could do nothing." Lee Forman

I think John asks a good question, and it's one I have pondered myself. With appropriate computer analysis, I think that there may be opportunities to at least prove differences and discrepancies in the background, missing frames, proof of magnification, etc. With modeling and trending, you could put together some views of what was occurring to the President as he passed out of sight behind the Stemmons Freeway sign, but whatever valuable 'other' detail was removed can't truly be restored in this fashion. I recently purchased "Image of an Assassin" and was greatly disappointed. I also stood in Dealey plaza last week Friday [first time there] and video taped Elm Street from 'Zapruder's pedestal.' What I noted was, in rewatching the "Image of an Assassin" was that, unless Zapruder was completely blind [which I have seen some substantiated claims regarding his glasses and his ability to even film the scene], why couldn't he keep his main character, The President of the Unites States, whom he had gone to some length to film, in the center of his shot? As the limo begins panning down further and further into the edge of the film, you have to wonder what the heck he was doing [unless of course someone else had reshot his film through his own camera, in possession of the FBI at that time, and magnified the top half of the scenes]. Jack White has a great analysis of the Z-Film in James H. Fetzers, "Murder in Dealey Plaza," Catfeet Press, Chicago, Copyright 2000. His photographic analyses of many of the frames go beyond his response here - and also give information and comparisons of the Z-film to the Moorman Polaroid, the Nix film, the Oliver film, etc. But this is not why I chose to reply to John's question. I would like to answer John's question with another question - which I believe would resolve the issue, if at all feasible. If you can accept the veracity of claims which have been made substantiating the existence of an unaltered Z-film [turn on Elm, Moorman's position, no missing frames, halo of material behind JFK's head, head moving forward, pick-up man visible, Life photos, etc.], how would we go about getting one? 2 are at the Archives - SS#1 and SS#2, there are apparent differences even between these 2 versions [leader, frames, etc.,] as covered by David Mantik, in the same book referenced above, "Murder in Dealey Plaza." Here's the real reason I am responding. It bothers me greatly that H.L. Hunt, the oilman with an office on Dealey Plaza, who has been implicated in the conspiracy, had motive based upon Kennedy's threat to end the "Oil Depletion Allowance," was a Texan of some political influence, an associated of LBJ, was a part of the right wing, plus the 'Torbitt Document" which states that Hoover had his men remove Hunt and his family at 12:30pm, 11/22/63 and fly them to a hotel in NY http://www.parascope.com/articles/1196/torbitt.htm -- Can't find the reference at the moment, but I understand Hunt managed to obtain his own personal copy! Possibly at odds with the agreement signed by Zapruder in which copying was legally limited to a set number. Although it's amazing that this man could have ended up with a copy of the Z-film - potentially before even Life magazine, how would we go about getting it? If fact, has anyone considered pursuit of this early edition copy?