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On 4/19/2024 at 5:34 PM, Robert Reeves said:
This photo appears on Facebook as ''Frank-Sturgis and Jose-Sanjenis-Perdomo''
So what's the deep dive? anyone have a clue?
Just where in Facebook did you see this?
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On 3/30/2024 at 6:49 AM, Ron Ecker said:
Dubya also had a personal grudge against Saddam. There had allegedly been an Iraqi plot to assassinate President George H.W. Bush. In that sense Dubya's conquest of Iraq was for Daddy.
In any case, whatever Dubya's self-selected VP wanted he got. The Masters of War could also be Puppet Masters.
That would be Metallica...
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On 2/9/2024 at 2:20 AM, Benjamin Cole said:
https://nypost.com/2024/02/07/sports/brock-purdy-asked-about-lee-harvey-oswald-at-super-bowl-2024/
Brock Purdy gives blunt response after reporter’s bizarre Lee Harvey Oswald question
BySocial Links for Jenna LemoncelliPublished Feb. 7, 2024, 10:35 a.m. ET---30---Judging from the photos, the evidence is in: The CIA did not raise two LHOs back in the 1950s. They created a cyborg double, who survives to this day, and plays for the '49ers.Purdy is not unique at having a resemblance to LHO. There is a young guy at our health club that looks so much like LHO I do.a double-take every time I see him.
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On 2/12/2024 at 7:23 PM, Benjamin Cole said:
I was jesting. I only saw some highlights, but Purdy reminds me of Tom Brady. He nearly prevailed, and the 49ers defense just could not hold in the final moments of the game.
He does seem cool under fire, another Brady trait. My guess is you see the 49ers back in the SB next year.
I had the same thought about Purdy having a resemblance to LHO.
I have to wonder if the SB was fixed. There was a moment where it looked like some sort of signal may have been given in the OT. The color just drained from Purdy's face and then Mahomes face lit up and he charged forward. It was hard to tell, though there was definite scripting at the end of the regular game, when M kept throwing the ball to Kelce but Kelce was unable to receive it. That would have been the 'perfect' ending to the game (winning touchdown). As it was, I think the OT TD was Plan B...
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On 2/5/2024 at 11:04 AM, Roger Odisio said:
Yes, LBJ's picking the 7 great Americans to front the WC, which hired a bunch of lawyers to cherry pick, distort, and ignore evidence in order to frame Oswald was a straightforward appeal to authority.
Vince Salandria came to believe that the WR story was intentionally riddled with holes, which over time would be realized. It was intentional because the murderers *wanted* people to figure out what they had done. The message: Yes, we have done it, we're in control, and there is nothing you can do about it.
In part, Salandria's thought came about because he himself was so quick to realize what had happened. The weekend of the murder he was telling his brother in law, if they kill Oswald, we will know who is behind it. He focused on the "upper echolons" of JFK's own government.
35 years after the murder in a famous speech, he was imploring researchers to stop inspecting the endless rabbit holes the murderers had laid out for them and try to finish off the details of what we already know about what happened.
His words are still largely ignored today.
Interesting. That doesn't surprise me at all. And speaking of rabbit holes, the ongoing coverup had them coming from two directions -- the WCR and its apologists, such as McAdams and the loony fringe, of which Fetzer's rabbit trails, such as the limo 'spiral nebulae' are a good example. And of course both of them were profs, so we were supposed to let them do our thinking for us...
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15 hours ago, Roger Odisio said:
Yes, in the well known 1967 memo, the CIA suggested the term "conspiracy *theory*" be used to try to discredit all who challenged the WR. The idea was that the WR conclusion of a LN assassin was based on the facts; all those who dissented were merely offering theories without the facts.
It can now be seen by anyone who cares to look that this was backwards. It was a lie upon which all of the lies in the WR were built.
In fact it is the WR conclusion that requires acceptance of a theory--the single bullet theory--which is contradicted by the facts.
The term conspiracy theory has grown to be used everywhere as a primary tool to cut off dissent. Conspiracies are everywhere. People, particularly people here, should think twice before appending "theory" to the term when discussing them
Well said. Also, a good point about the SBT...
I have to wonder if the WCR was not left in an intentionally ridiculous and incomprehensible state in order to use a mind control type tactic on the American public. When it was first published it seemed that If you did not 'believe' the WCR you were disloyal, and worse, you were probably a Communist. The WCR is a classic appeal to authority...
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14 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:
That's a good concise summary on some of the theories, imho. I'm not an attorney like you, regarding legal aspects.
Regarding theories in general since JFK, many here have probably already seen this, I had not until tonight. The film Conspiracy Theory starring (of all people) Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts from 1997. Gibson as a freaked-out creature of MKULTRA (mentioned), he tries to explain it to Justice Department lawyer Roberts. Patrick Stewart seems a combination of Allen Dulles and Sidney Gottlieb. Whoever wrote this knows a bit about the CIA/JFKA. Yes, it's drama, a little comedic, but somewhat historically based in fact.
Maybe Mel Gibson's best performance?
I liked this movie, though I found it unsatisfying. But now I am intrigued...I will watch it again...
I am also a fan of Parallax View and Executive Action...
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It seems to me that our accepting the term 'theory' is just playing into the hands of the WCR apologists.
A better term might be "hypothesis" or even "working hypothesis"...
Should we decide to present on an hypothesis that we have tested and believe to be valid, the hypothesis becomes a thesis, which can then be debated at the level of the public...
We can also say "my position" (on this issue, on this day) is...
I should think there might be less hysterical reaction if we were to tweak our terminology...
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On 1/16/2024 at 1:07 PM, Joe Bauer said:
Is this true?
It always seemed to me that Yoko had much more mental control over John than most even contemplated.
To a degree it all seemed kind of creepy.
What if we take as a working hypothesis that Yoko was an agent and John the target?
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On 2/2/2024 at 3:25 PM, Robert Reeves said:
So if the main suspect in the assassination of almost all the prominent political assassinations discussed on this forum of the 50's 60's 70's etc is the CIA. Using Occam's Razor we should easily conclude that there is a very high degree of certainty the CIA had a hand in the removal of their policy opponents, surely?
Do I have to copy and paste a lengthy list of CIA political assassinations to backup this? let alone the very interesting techniques perfected by the CIA to achieve these aims.
Or do you dispute the CIA is the suspected force behind the admitted murders of its foes?
It is correct to say that there is even a fallacy within Occam's Razor. For one, who can define 'simply'? That is vague.
For another, the most 'simple' solution is not necessarily the best solution...
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On 2/2/2024 at 12:52 PM, Michael Griffith said:
Appealing to Occam's Razor is not an appeal to authority.
***It is. You just said it yourself. Here is a definition:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
Chapman confessed right after the crime and has continued to confess ever since. He is no Sirhan Sirhan--he is the exact opposite. There is nothing suspicious about Chapman's few trips.
***Your opinion. You are entitled. I think you are mistaken.
But, if you are determined to believe that the CIA/MIC killed Lennon, no amount of evidence will convince you otherwise.
***Care to provide a quote for my saying that?
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An appeal to "Occam's Razor" is a appeal to authority...
MDC killing John Lennon ergo no conspiracy falls prey to the fallacy of false alternatives...
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16 hours ago, Michael Griffith said:
Yes, indeed, indeed, indeed.
This is why I have railed against L. Fletcher Prouty's nutty, wild claims and have urged that other researchers repudiate them.
This is also why it is so harmful when people get on this forum and defend the fringe, discredited conspiracy theories regarding 9/11, John Lennon's murder, and Princess Diana's death.
What may be even more unhelpful is cherrypicking in an environment where we can choose what to focus on and ignore the rest...
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7 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:
PB, any ideas why Fergusen was "intentionally left out of the Dallas trip?"
And by whose authority?
Years ago we discussed the bullet width size and deep indentation in the upper inside of the SS100X front windshield frame. It's provenance and discovery...dates, times, etc.
Pamela provided some good info, some of which included Vaughn Ferguson.
However, I think I remember that the entire indentation provenance story was never resolved with anything close to a collectively agreed upon conclusion.
Both Bill Greer and Roy Kellerman seemed unsure about the indentation and when they first noticed it.
The big question of course is whether the indentation was caused by an incoming bullet during what Kellerman described as a flurry of shots into the limo.
My thoughts of suspicion regards the indentation included this comparative metaphor:
If I saw a defect in my own upper inner side windshield frame of even my first cheapest cost junker cars as deep and twisted metal ugly as the one in SS100X I would have noticed it the first time I sat in them.
I would have thought...Damn ...what the heck caused THAT!
And in such an odd place for such an odd defect.
One story was that the SS100X inner windshield indentation defect was caused years earlier when a New York City body shop was doing some work on the removable top mechanisms.
My question then is how could the security and condition keepers of the presidential flag ship limo ( even the car washers ) let that very noticeable and ugly defect remain unrepaired for so long-years?
JFK's limo was representative of our finest presentation of American presidential class...was it not?
Ferguson was something of a talker. When he was in Dearborn, he loved to play golf with other FMC employees, and told them a lot of things they would not have known otherwise. Ferguson reported to a man named Morgan Geis who was with the SS, who I think made sure he was in DC setting up vehicles for the Army-Navy game that was supposed to take place the following week-end.
https://www.thehenryford.org/explore/blog/morgan-gies-driver-to-the-presidents
How Ferguson walked by the dent in the chrome molding is a mystery to me. He must have put the roof back on SS100X before driving it from DC back to Dearborn, and thence to Hess + Eisenhart for the first rebuild, the "Quick Fix". The garage incident in NYC that Chief Rowley mentions in his letter supposedly happened just a few weeks prior to the Texas trip. Of course, Rowley is making an excuse.
SS100X was the pride of the WHG fleet, much of which was leased or rented from Ford. That being said, there was an earlier FMC internal memo that said presidential limousines did not have to be bulletproof because 'the US is not a banana republic.' How horrifying that seems in retrospect.
The QEII follow-up SS car was bulletproof. However, its top was down, so it didn't really matter. JEH supposedly had a bulletproof car. That would be like him.
But President Kennedy, Jackie and the Connallys were just thrown to the wolves, with no SS protection on the car, even placed at the head of the motorcade instead of in 7h place, as the sticker on a side window says...
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19 minutes ago, Gil Jesus said:
Pamela, you've done a ton of research on the limo and when it comes to the limo, I hold your work in the highest regard. Because of that, I have a limo-related question that's bugging me and maybe you can help me with:
The White House garage log shows that a representative of Capitol Cadillac ( M Herndon ) visted the garage on 11-26 and his contact person was a man named Ferguson, who was in charge of the windsheild replacement on the Presidential limo. The log indicates that he arrived while the windshield was being replaced and left at the same time as the installers. ( 1445/2:45 )
My question is why would a Cadillac rep be summoned to the garage at the same time the windshield was being replaced in the Presidential limo ? Was there any damage done to the "Queen Mary" follow-up car ( which was a 1955 Cadillac ) that you know of ? Do you know if that car was removed from the garage for repairs ?
Thanks for your answer in advance.
Nice sleuthing, Gil!
The follow-up car in Dallas, the Queen Mary II, has always been. subject of interest to me simply because it was directly behind SS100X during the assassination, but there seems to be no information about it. Whatever condition it was in, we really don't know. That being said, since we are all wary about how potential evidence is concealed from us, it is certainly fair to ask why. I think SS679X was sequestered with SS100X in the White House Garage after the trip back to AAFB and DC, but we don't have a log as we do for the JFK limo.
Vaughn Ferguson was the FMC liaison to the WHG, and he was in charge of SS100X. Ferguson was, I think, intentionally left out of the Dallas trip, but took charge of SS100X as soon as it came back to DC. I don't know who was in charge of the Cadillac. So Ferguson gave permission for this rep to come into the WHG while the limos were being sequestered...
I think Sam Kinney may have said something about the Cadillac. Let me check on that...
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7 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:
Why those Bas**** !!!
Jim Fetzer was the main culprit…
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I think LHO was smart enough to be observed by intelligence agencies of at least three countries (US, USSR and Cuba) but when he was arrested in Dallas I think he began to realize he may have outsmarted himself...
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On 1/18/2024 at 7:22 PM, Gerry Down said:
I wonder why LHO wasn't smart enough to simply say nothing during the dpd interrogations. He seemed to do alot of needless talking which is generally not advised without a lawyer present.
LHO was asking for legal representation. That was part of the problem. There were no MIranda rights back then.
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14 hours ago, Gil Jesus said:
The whole series is now posted on my website:
https://gil-jesus.com/reasons-why-i-believe-the-warren-commissions-case-was-fraudulent/
Along with this, the process of moving all the evidence from Dallas to DC managed to corrupt the chain of evidence, especially regarding the body of JFK and the limo...
And speaking specifically about the limo, a long time ago I was kicked off a now-defunct forum for informally demonstrating that there was so little damage to SS100X that the assassination would have been impossible with LHO's MC with its skewed site...
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I knew Jack White and respect what he accomplished.
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13 minutes ago, David Von Pein said:
Pamela, please...
I need to clarify my point. He can't speak for himself on this forum.
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On 1/22/2024 at 2:47 AM, David Von Pein said:
Yes, but just barely. The DPF has been pretty much a wasteland of inactivity for the last couple of years now. Why that is so, I have no idea. It's rather strange. But it seems that only one lonely person is posting there (for the most part)---and that's Brian Doyle (who, as usual, is constantly whining about being booted off of this forum years ago).
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/forum-3.html
Duncan MacRae's forum (below) is still active though. (But it too is not really much more than a wasteland as well.)
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?board=1.0
With all due respect, David, is it helpful to make a negative comment about someone who is unable to defend themself on this board?
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Jeremy,
I may need to clarify my point.
I am not persuaded at this time that there were 'two LHO's'. However, as the issue of people impersonating LHO is of significance and so many LHO documents are still being suppressed, I am keeping an open mind...
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For anyone who is tempted to consider the possibility of 'two Oswalds' "farfetched", or worse, let us keep in mind the furor that followed publication of Michal Eddowes book The Oswald File, where he claimed this was the case.
https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKeddowes.htm
Subsequent to that, the body of Lee Oswald in Rosehill Cemetary was exhumed and determined to be the same person who was killed on 11.24.63.
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0L32FE/
But did that answer everyone's questions? Hardly...
In addition, many of the files that are still being suppressed have to do with Lee Oswald.
Certainly we can agree to keep an open mind to those who are pursuing research of whether there was more than one LHO or a series of imposters, as I don't think anyone will disagree that at various points in LHO's history, there was at the least someone impersonating him..
10 Disturbing Parallels Between John Lennon’s Assassination and JFK, RFK and MLK
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Thank you. That is just weird. To make matters more puzzling, the page is in Farsi, or some strange language. Then my pages turned into that language.
No indication of just where the photo came from either...
Here is a thread on Perdomo from the old Google Groups archive...
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.beatles/c/J-7AhNsd3no