Andrew Prutsok
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On 9/1/2022 at 6:01 AM, Benjamin Cole said:
LHO also helpfully left his wallet at the scene with both his real and alternate ID, "Hidell," through which he mail-ordered the weapons he just used to murder people.
Just like how the "hijackers'" pristine passports gently wafted to the ground after everything in the World Trade Center towers was completely pulverized. Mighty convenient.
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17 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:
Man, my heart goes out to you. In my family a member has been taking anti-depressants for 30-40 years. A good friend's son committed suicide after schizophrenia.
I hope for the best for you, and for me.
Appreciate it. We're 12 years in and every day is worse than the previous one.
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12 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:
This Teen Was Prescribed 10 Psychiatric Drugs. She’s Not Alone.---NYT
This one is for W.
As a layman, this strikes me as the wrong approach, along with most other medications for mental troubles.
Is this the right approach? Has something about the drug industry and reimbursement schemes worked to this end?
Did you ever tell a patient, "Look, get a lot more exercise and reduce alcohol and sugar in your diet. Then, let's see where we stand?"
I have an adult bipolar son. Getting treatment is a nightmare. They are happy to prescribe him all the pills he wants.
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40 minutes ago, David Von Pein said:
Curtain Rod Addendum....
From comments he made to his wife on 11/21/63, there is at least some indication that Lee Oswald was planning to move away from his Beckley room soon after 11/21/63. If this was in Oswald's mind on the evening of November 21st, then the act of obtaining curtain rods for a room he would soon be vacating makes no sense whatsoever.
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http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com / Curtain Rods --- Part 2
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Yes. Tomorrow I'm going to murder the president, then I'm going to find a nicer place to live.
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2 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said:
I hope this link works for it publishes one of the most important stories of our time.
Jesus. That's scary stuff. No wonder everyone's lives just keep getting shittier and shittier. It's by design.
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1 hour ago, Pete Mellor said:
I don't want to hijack this Kilgallen thread but I was interested in Andrew and Ron's belief in CIA being somehow behind Chappaquiddick.
I agree with Jim's view of Damore's book, I have not read the DeWitt/Lange from 1993, but found Pinney's 'Chappaquiddick Speaks' from 2017 quite logical in its verdict, a Ted cover-up.
Andrew/Ron, What evidence or suspicions for CIA?
I was being slightly flippant. It's been years since I studied it, but there are facts that don't match up with the official story. Saying flatly it was an intelligence operation is a bit of a stretch, of which I'm guilty, but it did take out the front runner for the 1972 Democratic presidential nomination, which was convenient for someone. And proof of CIA involvement wouldn't surprise a soul.
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Chappaquiddick has all the earmarks of a CIA op.
Say what you will about Teddy Kennedy, but here's the 28-year-old, doughy, Hyannis Port rich boy on the back of a bucking horse in Miles City, MT in 1960.
I live in Miles City and have been to these events. It's deranged. This was total badassery. He was twice the cowboy George W Bush ever thought of being.
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32 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:
I am happy to say we can agree about some things.
E Howard Hunt was sending sealed pouches by courier back to the CIA, while working in the White House. Many on the Watergate break-in were CIA.
Then, as now, nothing is so important in Washington as accepting the conventional view of your wing of the political spectrum.
It was too soon after JFK to murder his ass so they took him out another way.
The Bush family, three generations of attempted coups against the US.
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Man, when the woman who oversaw putting menstruating women's panties over the heads of Muslim prisoners to torture them threatens to quit over your hiring, you must be pretty f'd up.
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On 8/21/2022 at 6:40 PM, Benjamin Cole said:
The Agnew angle is often forgotten in the Watergate story. Agnew no doubt was a grifter, like Maryland pols of his generation (and probably today).
So Agnew was run out of office as a prelude to the Watergate exit of Nixon, and then Ford was installed.
I have no sympathy for Nixon---he should have been impeached for his war crimes in Laos alone, and possibly imprisoned.
But in the US we do not impeach Presidents for war crimes, or maybe any crimes.
Impeachment is political warfare.
The Watergate story is still mysterious, and may involve the CIA piggybacking, or even fomenting White House dirty ops. It may be the CIA wanted that Watergate office list of call girls and johns, for blackmail purposes (keeping pols in line).
Keep this deeper backstory in mind when perusing current events. In the first few years, you may be just getting the cover story, the PR version of events, the approved M$M version.
I know a lot of people are critical of Russ Baker, but I think he had Watergate nailed - it was an intelligence operation.
Totally agree with you on Nixon, no sympathy for him whatsoever but I'd bet my house Watergate was totally about "The Bay of Pigs Thing."
CIA spook HW Bush right in the middle of it all, both Ben Bradlee and Bob Woodward "former," Naval Intelligence, please.
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On 1/30/2022 at 10:07 AM, James DiEugenio said:
Joe:
Mark Shaw is pretty much a hack. He wrote one decent book on the JFK case out of four he got published.
And even that one was largely based on a long previous article published in MIdwest Today.
In fact, that article is probably just as good as his book was.
If you want to see how bad Shaw has become, read Don McGovern's review of his last book. Which was simply devastating. Especially note how bad he was on the photographic analysis which he was simply flat out wrong on.
https://www.kennedysandking.com/reviews/collateral-damage-mark-shaw-s-public-atrocity
Thanks for this. I was curious. Watched a couple of his lengthy Youtube presentations last night. The one his Kilgallen book was decent. Then saw another on his Collateral Damage book in which he laid blame for JFK murder entirely on the mob and Marilyn Monroe's death on Bobby Kennedy. I suspected he might be hack after watching the presentation. Thanks for the confirmation.
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52 minutes ago, Steve Thomas said:
Oklahoma GOP candidate under fire for saying it is 'totally in the right' to execute gay people
by Sky Palma August 22, 2022
https://www.rawstory.com/candidate-scott-esk/
“A GOP candidate in Oklahoma's Republican primary runoff election tomorrow is facing backlash after comments he made several years ago have emerged, LGBT Nation reports.
Scott Esk, 56, who is running for a seat in the state's House, commented on a Facebook post back in 2013 where he quoted a bible verse and later added that "we would be totally in the right" to execute gay people.
“What I will tell you right now is that that was done in the Old Testament under a law that came directly from God,” he said at the time. “And in that time, there was, it was, totally just came directly from God.”
“Well, does that make me a homophobe? Maybe some people think it does,” he said. “But as far as I and many of the people, the voters of House District A7 are concerned, it simply makes me a Christian. Christians believe in biblical morality, kind of by definition, or they should.””
Does that mean we are going to go back to stoning people to death?
Steve Thomas
With people like Boebert, Greene, Gaetz sucking all of the oxygen out of the room with their deranged, violent rhetoric, right wing politicians have to up their outlandishness to get any attention.
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8 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:
Ponder this by Dick Russell, himself a JFKA'er.
Part 1: CIA’s Extraordinary Role Influencing Liberal Media Outlets Daily Kos, The Daily Beast, Rolling Stone
Part 2: The Belly of The Daily Beast and Its Perceptible Ties to the CIA
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/the-daily-beast-ties-to-cia/
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/cia-liberal-media-outlets-the-real-anthony-fauci/
What passes as "left-wing" or liberal media has funding or other ties to the national security state. The Daily Beast once described the JFKA research community as a bunch of old white guys who wear bad shirts. That, while reviewing JFK:Revisited.
Ever wonder why the WaPo defines every aspect of America society as "white supremacist"---but not the US military, trade or foreign policies?
In addition, of late, many left-wingers have begun to think of the FBI and Deep State operatives---who are legion on CNN and MSNBC---as the good guys.
Trump has become the dividing line. If the Deep State torpedoes Trump, then the Deep State is good.
So...the reception to DiEugenio's JFK's Revisited was more favorable in right-wing media than in left-wing media. A turnabout from 40 years ago.
The American Democratic Party, the media and the Deep State are forming tighter bonds than ever, somewhat jousting the Old Guard GOP from the loveseat.
See the Cheney-Donk love-fest for more clues.
The JFKA is not a polite topic of conversation.
But DiEugenio has broken through with his excellent production.
And be all that as it may, who and what kind of monsters are funding rightwing media?
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9 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:
Ponder this by Dick Russell, himself a JFKA'er.
Part 1: CIA’s Extraordinary Role Influencing Liberal Media Outlets Daily Kos, The Daily Beast, Rolling Stone
Part 2: The Belly of The Daily Beast and Its Perceptible Ties to the CIA
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/the-daily-beast-ties-to-cia/
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/cia-liberal-media-outlets-the-real-anthony-fauci/
What passes as "left-wing" or liberal media has funding or other ties to the national security state. The Daily Beast once described the JFKA research community as a bunch of old white guys who wear bad shirts. That, while reviewing JFK:Revisited.
Ever wonder why the WaPo defines every aspect of America society as "white supremacist"---but not the US military, trade or foreign policies?
In addition, of late, many left-wingers have begun to think of the FBI and Deep State operatives---who are legion on CNN and MSNBC---as the good guys.
Trump has become the dividing line. If the Deep State torpedoes Trump, then the Deep State is good.
So...the reception to DiEugenio's JFK's Revisited was more favorable in right-wing media than in left-wing media. A turnabout from 40 years ago.
The American Democratic Party, the media and the Deep State are forming tighter bonds than ever, somewhat jousting the Old Guard GOP from the loveseat.
See the Cheney-Donk love-fest for more clues.
The JFKA is not a polite topic of conversation.
But DiEugenio has broken through with his excellent production.
MARKOS at Kos was military intelligence in the 90s. After he came out hard against Dennis Kucinich when he was running for president, I became convinced his site was an intelligence op to try to keep the Democratic Party from becoming overly progressive.
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On 8/20/2022 at 10:08 AM, Mark Knight said:
Not to mention that VP Mike Pence was suspicious enough of the SS to NOT get into a SS-driven vehicle to be driven away from the Capitol to a location that wasn't disclosed to him. And YES, I DO think that Pence had reason to not trust the SS, after it came out that on January 5, Senator Chuck Grassley stated that HE would be presiding over the certification of the Electoral Votes, since PENCE WOULDN'T BE PRESENT FOR THE PROCEDURE.
Unless Grassley was in on the plot, how would he have known that there was a plan for Pence to be absent? It certainly wasn't PENCE'S plan to be absent. But apparently SOMEONE planned for Pence to not be there. THAT would circumvent the procedure outlined in the Constitution. And Grassley was AWARE of that. How many MORE were in on the plot? Pence was so certain that he'd be put on a plane and flown to a distant but undisclosed location that he REFUSED to get into the car with the SS agents.
But Ben still thinks the SS, or at least rogue SS agents, weren't part of the coup attempt. Ben, BECAUSE of the JFK assassination and its aftermath, I have problems putting my full trust in the SS.
And he needs to be reminded that the FBI had not one, but two investigations of Clinton going on in 2016. Here's what Breitbart said about it at the time:
"Even as Clinton was dismissing the Fox News report out of hand, former U.S. attorney Joseph DiGenova was confirming the key revelations, saying he has been told 150 FBI agents are working the Clinton corruption case, and the investigation has been in progress for months."
Those bastards were out to get Trump from the start.
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10 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:
Andrew P:
Seriously? You think the Secret Service on 1/6 tried to facilitate a coup on Trump's behalf?
You realize the director of the Secret Service on 1/6 was James Murray, a 24-year SS veteran?
Yes, the SS is an arm of the Deep State. You may wish to ponder what happened on 11/22/63.
What you are positing is that Trump, the picture of a political naif and blow-hard, managed to flip the Secret Service into insurrectionists in four short years, including its veteran director?
You know there are CTs and there are CTs, but the idea that Trump conspired with the Deep State is... far-fetched.
The evidence is rather the other way. The Deep State loathed, detested and reviled Trump and made no secret of it.
As for protecting Pelosi, the Capitol Police report to the legislative branch. The failures of the Capitol Police on 1/6 easily exceed the shortcomings of the SS on 11/22. The failures are so inexplicable and complete as to defy sensible explanation.
https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC&RulesFullReport_ExaminingU.S.CapitolAttack.pdf
I seriously believe that. It was the USSS that had knowledge of the threats to Pelosi and did nothing, not the capitol police. They destroyed or refused to hand over their text messages from Jan. 6. And the New York FBI office in 2016 obviously conspired to help Trump by threatening to leak the Weiner laptop BS unless Comey announced it and Rudy knew about it and was bragging about it on TV days before Comey's announcement.
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36 minutes ago, Jamey Flanagan said:
@Andrew PrutsokI kept rewatching the Towner film and despite frames missing you can still see the doorway to the depository. So, I'm thinking it was something else they were trying to hide other than Oswald in the doorway.
Just a guess. But man, something weird going on with Jackie's head at about 15 seconds, looks like it almost disappears.
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On 8/15/2022 at 6:15 PM, Benjamin Cole said:
The former director of the CIA, explicitly endorses HRC in the NYT, pre-election.
The NYT was so enamored of this Morrel op-ed, Q/A they ran a companion piece,
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/12/opinion/q-a-michael-j-morell-on-his-clinton-endorsement.html
I am not sure intel officials should ever get involved in politics, this goes beyond Trump v. Clinton.
But here is the unsettling truth: The left-wing is now taking cues from the Deep State. Former intel officials swarm over CNN, MSNBC and NYT, WaPo, where they are feted, especially if they say anything anti-Trump.
JFKA researcher Richard Russell has written about how many of the "new left wing" news-sites, such as Insider or Daily Beast, have been funded by the CIA.
There is no loyal opposition anymore to huge expansion of military-intel funding or powers. The Espionage Act, long loathed by civil libertarians, is now championed.
Indeed, while members of this forum remain obsessed with Trump's hoped-for pending execution, and the Mar-a-Lago raid, another $50 billion was added onto the Defense Department funding request by Congress, without detectable debate.
In other words, if the powers of the panopticon state can be weaponized and applied to political opponents...then we love the panopticon.
Would you say the Secret Service was part of The Deep State? Shoot, those guys tried to facilitate a coup on Trump's behalf and didn't inform the Speaker of the House of credible death threats against her in the days prior to Jan. 6.
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8 minutes ago, Douglas Caddy said:
Meet the new GOP Congresswoman from Wyoming
The one night stand between the Joker and Leona Helmsley didn't end well.
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4 minutes ago, Jonathan Cohen said:
So they removed him from here but left him in other films of the same area? Smart conspirators, eh?
I'm not aware of a frame from any film where he is recognizable on the steps.
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My guess would be Oswald was recognizeable on the steps in films of the turn from Houston on to Elm.
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2 minutes ago, Andrew Prutsok said:
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8 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:
The same people who believe the intel-state murdered JFK to get the US into Vietnam/SE Asia/Cuba/ Africa...who believe 9/11 was just an excuse for Mideast perma-wars...now believe there is no Deep State, despite an explosion of military and black-budget spending....
Biden just fist-bumped with MBS...explain the "democracy" part to me.
That Deep State was on his side, got him elected in 2016. He would not have won without Comey announcing that Clinton emails were found on Weiner's laptop. Whatever happened to that story?
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17 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:
Where is this Andrew?
Sorry. I heard it reported on MSNBC. Don't see a link to it on their site.
The inevitable end result of our last 56 years
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New York Times reporting today on Trump's intelligence consumption. Unlike most of his predecessors, no interest in UFOs, but asked lots of questions about JFK assassination.