Rick McTague

And if it was innocent protesting, why did it happen right in the kill zone marked by the yellow-painted curbing at the same time JFK was being murdered, and right next to a random man with a radio-shaped device in his pocket making a military-style gesture at the same time? Why not anywhere else along the motorcade route, at a different time, in a crowd of just regular people waving? Are we to explain it away, like so many other events around the JFK assassination, as mere "coincidence"? BTW Larry - I am reading "Someone Would Have Talked" and I am thoroughly fascinated by the level of detail and connections you make throughout this finely crafted book. Thanks.

Denny, Very good summary of the wounds and very probable shot sequences and damage, all based on facts, evidence and statements from experienced medical professionals before the coverup machine manufactured the lone shooter story. You could add to your list however something along the lines of "In the same fraction of a second that JFK was hit in the back of the head, another round came from the front, striking him on the right temple area above the right eye at the hairline. This caused a massive blowout of the back rear portion of his skull, some of which coated Officer Hargis to JFK's left rear with blood and brain matter, and sent a large fragment of his skull flying to the left rear into the grass of the plaza to be found by Harper the next day." (I think it was the next day, could have been 11/22.) Adding in this and the shots that wounded Connally would make it complete in my opinion. The behavior/ballistics of FMJ rounds and fragmenting rounds are very different in reality; only with the MC ammo can one find one study that FMJ rounds behave significantly different based on where they strike the body. Apparently, when they cause 7 wounds in two men, including one of the hardest bones in the body (JBC's wrist), we can expect MC FMJ rounds to remain nearly pristine. When the same round hits one man in the skull, we can expect them to fragment apart. Like many other areas of the JFK assassination, everyday reality, observations and physics must give way to special and illogical physics-defying behavior in this one case, on that one day, as related to that one man who fired that one type of ammo from that one rifle from that one window. Any other day, any other murder would follow everyday procedures and physics. Thank you.

David, Can you please offer an explanation on how a FMJ round could leave a trail of small fragments in JFK's head (From James D's post for reference: 7. Do you mean the trail of particles that Humes wrote about which he said went from the bottom of the skull in the rear to the top connecting that trail? Except that when Jeremy Gunn showed him the x ray in the archives today, and asked him if he saw that, Humes said, no its not there.) while the exact same type of round made 7 wounds in JFK and JBC and came out nearly pristine as CE399? I'm curious how two identical FMJ rounds can behave so differently; I would think that only a frangible / explosive round could cause the damage in JFK's head and leave the dust trail of lead. Thanks Rick

Just read both interviews on JFK Countercoup2 with Tosh Plumlee. He offers insights into Roselli, Nicoletti and others and their involvement in the Dealey Plaza operation. He sounds reasonable and credible in these interviews; maybe they are old news here but it was sure new to me. Connections with military intelligence abound. Roscoe White being in Hawaii when LHO was there. LHO present at the "Illusionary Warfare Training at Nagshead, North Carolina in 1959 prior to him going to language school and going to Russia." Both White and LHO undergoing jungle warfare training. His view of the assassination from the south knoll, after he and his partner Sergio searched the site for sniper teams. My only wish is that there was a plat of Dealey Plaza where he could point out where he was, and where the three shooting teams were. Each team consisting of a spotter, shooter and breakdown man. He smelled gunpowder at the south knoll. Much good information here that helps round out what happened that day. Thanks

David, Your post brings to mind two questions I have: 1. Did LHO use the same type of ammo in those 4 rounds? (Type being full metal jacket, jacketed hollow point (JHP), or frangible, etc.) 2. Why didn't LHO load the MC clip full? It holds 6 rounds and there was evidence of only 4 in the TSBD. Thanks

Andrej, Not to mention the nose-witnesses who said they smelled gunsmoke in DP at the time of the shootings (Sen. Ralph Yarborough, etc.). There is no way gunsmoke could have wafted down Elm all the way down from the easternmost 6th floor window of the TSBD. I'm guessing DVP and others will say they were mistaken.... Thanks

Joe, As always, I appreciate your revealing and reasonable posts / replies. I think you can add to this odd behavior the DCM pumping his fist up and down at the same time as UM is pumping the umbrella up and down, right at the section of Elm marked by the yellow painted curbs and right at the kill zone where a "flurry of shots" entered the limo right as Greer slowed to nearly a stop as complicit in the plot, guiding the shooters to keep firing. Thanks

Thanks, David. My misunderstanding that the film didn't have to be turned around. Yet, the narrator in the original video relates the motorcade section of the film as giving him time to turn the film around which you've proven happened before Mr. Z got to DP that day. Still makes me wonder what they (Hawkeyeworks / NPIC) didn't want anyone to see by removing that Elm turn section of the film.... Thanks

Keyva, Why do you think he says twice "Zapruder had time to turn his film around"? A 16mm film does not need to be "turned around" by the camera operator. This is done by the development lab, who slits it into (2) 8mm sections, turns the latter section to the end of the first, to make one long 8mm film ready for the projector. He's using this as an excuse for the missing gap of film of the limo making the turn onto Elm. Thoughts? Thanks

David, If it was truly a protest, why was he not elsewhere on the several miles of motorcade route? Why was he standing right in the yellow-painted curb kill zone, pumping it up and down just as shots came into the limo, exactly at the same time DCM pumped his fist up and down ("form on me")? Way too many "coincidences" for him to just randomly show up and protest at that place, at that time. No doubt those who invested in the BOP were seething at JFK for lack of air protection - I think some of them participated in a "protest" with bullets and coordination, not with an umbrella. Thanks

Micah, Where did this picture come from? It doesn't look like 11/22/63, maybe a re-enactment? DCM is east of UM and in the photos and films of 11/22/63, he is standing west of him, as shown in the pictures below. Thanks

It's interesting that one of the names on this list, "James M Souter, Lieutenant, PD" is similar in name to Jean Soutre. I wonder if any connection there exists.... Thanks

Thank you for that drone video, David. Very nice. When I go there periodically, and even in this video, I am astounded at the idiots who feel it is necessary to stand on the "X" and have their picture taken, smiling like the idiots they are. People just have no shame nor sense of the gravity of what happened. Just sticks in my craw, so to speak. Thanks

Keyvan, While the "magic bullet" and the other rounds in the TBSD were certainly full metal jacket, the round that entered JFK's head had to be a frangible round to do that much explosive damage and leave the cloud of tiny fragments seen in the x-rays, expanding from front to back. A full metal jacket round would do just what the supposed magic bullet did: penetrate, stay in tact, and keep on penetrating through the head and exiting out. Thanks

Joe, Even lowly technician Paul O'Connor was very clear that when they took JFK's body out of the pink shipping casket and the body bag (both of which did not come from Dallas), there was no brain in the cavity. He said it was simply gone, you could reach both fisted hands into it. Why wasn't that as clear to Humes and the others? Thanks

Joe, In addition to the different sounds of the shots reasonably proving multiple firearms in use that day, I would add the different ammunition types in use also reasonably prove multiple firearms used by multiple shooters. Full metal jacket rounds that penetrate and keep penetrating (the through the windshield throat shot, the bullet found on the stretcher). Fragmenting rounds that penetrate then break apart / mushroom (the head shot, the fragments left in JBC's wrist and leg). Thanks

Micah, I might add: with the same ammunition supposedly used - 2 full metal jacket rounds (one miss, one the magic bullet) and 1 frangible round (for the head shot), all made for that rifle? Add to that the fact that one of the 3 spent hulls found in the TSBD had a crimped edge where no bullet could have been fired from it .... Thanks

Jamey, What is the link to the video you were watching? Thanks

We could have a drinking game of when those who support the WC say "xxxxx didn't remember" or "xxxx was mistaken" on all aspects of the JFKA. Like every doctor at Parkland didn't remember / was mistaken on the back of JFK's head being blown out, or that the throat wound was a small round wound of entrance. And those nose witnesses who smelled gunsmoke on DP after the shots were mistaken, and those who saw smoke from under the trees didn't remember those details accurately. The entire WC report is based on those mistaken / misremembered observances. Thanks

Micah, While you provide a likely explanation for what we see in the extant Z film, none of the Parkland staff describe JFK's head wound anywhere near what the Z film shows. They described a baseball size exit wound in the back of the head, which is not visible in the Z film. If the Z film is authentic, why didn't the Parkland staff describe what is seen in it today? Thanks

Joe, I recently finished a book called "Mob Lawyer: Including the Inside Account of Who Killed Jimmy Hoffa and JFK", depicting the life of attorney Frank Ragano, who represented both Santo Trafficante and Jimmy Hoffa. He was part of the messaging lines between Hoffa, Trafficante and Carlos Marcello. Fascinating, detailed, documented and well written. You'll see the other side of life around these people in the 1950's - 1980's. He was on the inside but did what he could to remain within the law. Well worth the read. Thanks

John, To me, it looks like passenger aircraft are in the reflection on the limo - if so, this clip is while they are still at Love Field. I could seriously be mistaken as well. Do you have confirmation of the location of this clip? Thanks

Sandy, Without getting into 100% of what David Lifton talked about in BE regarding body modification between Parkland and Bethesda, it does seem like the throat wound's appearance had 3 stages: 1. At impact in DP, seen at Parkland by many doctors and nurses who deal with bullet wounds every day as a small round wound that appeared like an entrance. 2. After the tracheostomy by Dr. Perry was completed, over the wound site, only big enough to perform that procedure, where the wound closes up around the tube. I think I saw where the tubes were 3/4" in diameter? 3. At the time of the "stare of death photo" in Bethesda (?) where it is around 2" wide, a much larger open gash than the result from #2 above, with the purpose of appearing like a wound of exit. It seems to me that if someone modified/enlarged the throat wound to make it appear as an exit wound, that same procedure could be used to remove a bullet or fragment from that wound which clears the path for CE399 to be the culprit. Just a suggestion - I'd be interested in your views on it. I think I know what CV and DVP might reply with... Thanks

Sandy, Nicely put. The witnesses and evidence for the multiple caskets, multiple casket entries by multiple teams are totally believable. I don't know if you've seen this video or not, of a member of the honor guard Hugh Clark speaking at a JFK conference with Jim Marrs, Peter Dale Scott and others is one example. BTW, his book "Betrayal is a fascinating read. Thanks

Keyvan, If what you say is true, why would so many professionals at Parkland who are used to dealing with trauma every day put their reputations on the line for claiming to see the wounds as they saw them if they didn't in fact see them? They were trying to save his life, and the condition of his head was blatantly obvious while at Parkland. There are other explanations for the significant differences between JFK's body at Parkland and at Bethesda, what is depicted in the incomplete set of autopsy photos and x-rays. Thanks