Mervyn Hagger

Occam's Razor responds: Marcello! Motive, means, money.

Life is strange. I was just referencing Waldron's 'Legacy' book which I pulled from our library shelves earlier today. I noticed that Marcello was transferred to the US Prison in Fort Worth during the time I was visiting someone there every week. I recall now that I was told that a Mafia boss had just arrived, but at the time I really wasn't interested in JFK or his murder, and I had never heard of Marcello. S'funny how many people have written books about the Fort Worth - Dallas Metroplex relating to the murder of JFK, and yet they never set foot in some of the key locations that I personally visited, sometimes on a regular basis. Then there are people like former CIA Director Bill Colby who I personally met, and who is not just another name in someone else's book. There are so many 'experts' out there. (Not!) I wonder how much personal contact David Von Pein had with the places and the people he constantly references?

I refer you to my previous response to the previous response to which you said "Ditto".

Tom, I like your line "If you want anyone to take you seriously ...." Lot's of people take me seriously. David Von Pein will never even consider that what I have to say is real, genuine or truthful. He is a lost cause to the Kennedy cult. As for the people who like the Kennedys, well there are still people around that like Hitler and others who believe that the world is flat or that the USA never landed a man on the moon. It you want the Marcello story I suggest you start reading all of the material that has been published. Where the problem begins is with what I call the "two camp" agenda: 1. Warren was right and LHO did it. 2. Warren was wrong and LHO may have done it in combination with a whole kitchen sink of characters. I say that there is a third version, and no one but no one has stumbled upon it, apart from the group I am a part of. We didn't begin with Kennedy and magic bullets, we began with 'needle time' and an Establishment view of what was okay in religion, and what was okay in politics and a Queen to tell us how to behave - sans guns. Then our world collided with the reality of November 22, 1963 in Dallas, Texas. Oh yes! Thank you Gary Murr and thank you Larry Hancock. Without Gary's first induced nudging to "look over here" we would never have known. As it was a long time went by before we took Gary at face value. At first we were very suspicious of him and his motives. It took quite some time to realize that Gary was a genuine guy with a genuine hint doing his best to be very helpful. In conclusion we say thank you to Gary for our own version of what happened on November 22, 1964, the summary outlined here will become a series of books about our road to discovery.

Hi Benjamin As stated before, I am here primarily to learn since it was thanks to Gary Murr (first) and then Larry Hancock that I began to look behind the curtain in Oz (Dallas, November 22, 1963.) Up until that point in time I was researching the development of broadcasting in both the UK and USA. I became friends with a person in a Scandinavian country as a result of my research and resulting activism with others during the 1980s, which had been fueled by a man named Don Pierson in the tiny East Texas town of Eastland. He gave me boxes of stored legal and financial records relating to his involvement in setting up a British radio station on an US military ship and sailing it across the Atlantic during 1964, and in late 1967 it (Radio London) became the blueprint for the new BBC station called Radio 1. Pierson's plan was to thwart the UK blockage on commercial radio and the recording industry's blockage on playing more than a limited number of recordings on the air each day. Pierson had consulted Gordon McLendon, owner of KLIF in Dallas and a hodge-podge collection of other stations. McLendon began his career with his father Bart in the movie theatre business, and then branched out into sports commentary. McLendon created a vast recreative sports broadcasting operation which originated from the basement of an old hotel in Oak Cliff, Dallas. He was driven out of business in order to protect the financial and commercial interests of licensed sports broadcasters. While McLendon was a Democrat, his style of politics followed on in the pattern of traditional and neo-racist (anti-Black), dogma with his form of Church+State in power. He was mirrored by Billy Graham whose home church was at First Baptist in Dallas, and whose politics shadowed those of the Murchisons who helped to finance US Senator Joe McCarthy, a Republican. In those days the center of Texas power was in Houston where the oil men met, and the oil men ruled the USA and therefore set out to rule the world. McLendon was a member of the advisory board of Radio Free Europe, who used the cover of the Houston Post to pretend that it was a grass-roots operation. It was in fact funded and controlled by the Central Intelligence Agency. Radio Free Europe directed an array of transmitters towards the main body of European countries under the control of the USSR, and it directed a sister operation called Radio Liberty towards Russia. Left out of the mix were the Baltic states of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia. Now the reason why the 'Iron Curtain' (so-called) had descended, as Winston Churchill famously put it, is due to the secret pact between Joe Stalin and Winston Churchill who carved-up Europe for rule post-WWII. Stalin was quite shocked when Churchill crudely wrote all this down on a piece of paper. But nevertheless, two-faced Winston Churchill (promoter of the 'bad Jew' Illuminati nonsense in 1920), was not who everyone later came to think that he was. Churchill was a two-faced rogue, just like John F. Kennedy. About the time that the 'patsy' (Lee Harvey Oswald) was setting foot in England to somehow miraculously land him in Helsinki and then the USSR, Gordon McLendon with Clint Murchison Jr., and Robert F. Thompson (all three very wealthy and with a weird sense of humor), set up a CIA operation anchored just off the coast of Stockholm, Sweden in the Baltic, and opposite the USSR nuclear submarine operations on the opposite shore. This station was supposedly a Swedish version of KLIF playing pop music from a ship, but according to Bill Weaver who was sent by Bart McLendon to shut it down later on, it was a listening post. Hints from Weaver indicate that its listening capabilities were sonar in capability. The Baltic Sea is landlocked, apart from the narrows between Denmark and Sweden. Every ship wanting entry to the North Sea on the other side had to pass through those narrows, and the North Sea opened into the Atlantic Ocean. Guarding those narrows for the USA, was a nuclear submarine (one of several) that were all base in Holy Loch, Scotland using a floating USA naval base. (Other US subs guarded similar 'choke points' in other parts of the world. This base was initially negotiated by Eisenhower and passed to JFK and it resulted in a form of nuclear blackmail by the USA against the UK. Holy Loch was a deal struck on 'take it, or else'. Or 'else' referred to sharing US nuclear weapons with the UK. This was also at the same time as the famous spy debacles and defections that also led into the Christine Keeler scandal involving a Russian agent. Now we are into the days before the Beatles burst forth in NYC to begin 'Beatlemania' in America. The one part of the JFK assassination story that was never investigated (until my group began to do so by serendipity), was the linked story of radio broadcasting involving the USA and UK. That is where the real players and their story come to light because that story was never blocked, as such. Misdirected yes, blocked no. It all began when Don Pierson gave me his financial and legal records in 1985 that linked to his exploits in the North Sea following McLendon's advice, and then his linked exploits in Haiti where he was walking down the path trodden by Murchison and De Mohrenschildt. So what was in those documents that I received? A major clue, a key to unlock everything which I did not even consider until Murr and then Hancock pointed out what Pierson had done in 1966 with yet another ship and another (and twin) offshore broadcasting operation aimed at the UK. The ship those stations was based upon was a CIA vessel assigned to Dr Manuel Aritime Buesa, and which came back to the USA and began attacking Cuba all over again. But turning the clock back to 1964 and Radio London, Pierson's first operation sprang to life thanks to a financial master mind for the Mafia and CIA (cojoined interests), who was based in Chicago. His name is Burton Kanter. However, connecting the story of the Beatles to the murder of JFK under the orders of Carlos Marcello when everyone else has been pointing in a million different and all totally unrelated directions, has not been easy. I had no road map, and therefore I stumbled around in the dark for decades trying to make sense of all this. Now I have and I have the evidence to prove that what I am claiming is the true story. The reason why no President has ever told the truth about November 22, 1963 and declassified all of the documents, is because of the geopolitical shock waves that could result and shatter the NATO alliance and certainly the make believe "special relationship" between the USA and the UK. That is still a ticking time bomb waiting to go off, and it was set in place due to the double-speak, two-faced misguided and warped characters called John and Robert Kennedy. That is what I am working exposing, irrespective of the consequences that may result in the geopolitical theater of financial gamesmanship where Presidents get filthy rich because of past lies and blackmail. There is indeed a weapon of mass destruction that could detonate, but it is not nuclear or biological, it is labeled "truth" and as Jack Nicholson wondered in 'that' movie, I too wonder if everyone who worships the very ground that the Kennedys once walked can handle it. Ironically, put in very basic terms on this Forum, it raises the question of how David Von Pein and his devoted JFK cultists will react? My guess is that they will never, ever accept the idea let alone the facts, that JFK and his brother RFK have hoodwinked them into believing a horror story disguised as a Hollywood fairy story called 'Camelot'. Hopefully all of this and more will soon appear in book format.

Where can we find your collection of recordings and clippings about Carlos Marcello?

In all of these rambling threads 60 years after the 'event', the misdirection by obfuscation is still working wonders. No wonder no President so far has dared to spell out the truth of what happened in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963. It is a never-ending dance around a totem pole, maybe akin to Morris dancing in England using lots of streamers to create patterns that are all totally meaningless. So, let's talk about Carlos Marcello and the "pebble in his shoe" named RFK that resulted first in the elimination of the "shoe supplier" (JFK), and then its wearer (RFK). We all might learn something that even the Presidents of both major US political parties have so far dared not discuss. Let's discuss it here. Enough documents have already been revealed to show the world what really happened on a Dallas street, why it happened and who caused it to happen, sixty years ago. Of course, if you worship the Kennedy brothers as some kind of two-headed 'god', you will be horrified by this request. However, everyone else who has an open mind might find this thread to be informative and helpful.

Your curiosity is misplaced regarding Murchison and JFK.

I mostly tucked my shirt in.

Sandy, I noticed a very similar pattern on the 'offshore pirate radio' boards.There are two of them and a handful of people keep recycling the same nonsense. What they HATE is anyone bursting their bubbles. I noticed some of that here, with one person who would ban me for daring to say that I do not like the Kennedys and gave my reason for doing so. I think he is a US citizen. His idea is that the First Amendment has its place, but not when it comes to heretical posts destroying the Kennedy cult. The answer of course is to shrug off the cultist viewpoint and continue as usual.

David, The ships you named are not one and the same and neither did they become the Don Carlos. Here is what I already posted about this ship: 1. This ship was built in 1944 for service as an Army military cargo vessel during World War II, and became: 2. FP 263 (one of scores of vessels built to the same standard design for mass production.) Then it was transferred to the US Merchant Marine and became: 3. AKL 2 Deal as a cargo vessel during the Korean War. 4. Then it was mothballed and later resold to a private company as a cargo vessel called: 5. Don Carlos. 6. Then everything goes fuzzy when Lloyds list it as the Olga Princess. However, apart from Lloyds listing there is no record of a ship by that name that was the Don Carlos. 7. The next authentic record shows the CIA (SGA) buying the vessel and obtaining it from a USAF pen in South Miami as the Olga Patricia. Don Pierson was asked about the name 'Olga Princess' and he said that it was a sister ship, but no such vessel has been discovered to date. 8. Olga Patricia saw service in the Gulf of Mexico launching high altitude helium balloons which dropped propaganda on Cuba. 9. Don Pierson obtained the Olga Patricia via a ship's mortgage from the same South Miami bank used by Dr Manuel Artime Buesa, who was a part of both the Bay of Pigs invasion, and its failed successor called AMWORLD. 10. The Olga Patricia was outfitted in Miami with 2 50kW radio stations that sailed to the North Sea in 1966 and broadcast as 'Swinging Radio England' and 'Britain Radio, hallmark of quality". 11. After both radio stations went bust in 1966, the ship was renamed and reregistered as Laissez Faire. 12. In 1967, Don Pierson was told to sell it as a radio ship. He offered it to many nations (I have seen the actual letters.) The only taker was Papa Doc of Haiti but that deal fell through. 13. The ship reverted to Olga Patricia and was docked in Miami where is was seized by US Marshals and put up for sale. 14. Continental Electronics were given back the radio stations on board and they resold them as two different private radio station companies broadcasting on land to South Africa. 15. The Olga Patricia ended up in the hands of another expat Cuban group who renamed it Akuarius II and a LOT of other names using a flip-chart hanging over the bow! 16. After one raid during which it was shot up by Fidel Castro's planes, it docked for safety in South Carolina and was grabbed by the US Justice Department who then sold it to: 17. Zapata Haynie Inc., who chopped it down in size and reconfigured it as a fishing vessel in their large fleet, and renamed it after the company's boss: 18. Earl J.Conrad Jr. 19. After lengthy service as a fishing vessel it was scrapped.

No

Good questions David. Certain time periods are known and accounted for. Anything after 1966 is partially known. Anything involving the Don Carlos onwards has questions. The Olga Princess does not show up in Lloyds apart from the totally bogus listing missing Olga Patricia, but showing Don Carlos - (GAP) - Laissez Faire / Olga Patricia - (GAP) - Akuarius II - Earl J.Conrad Jr.

Douglas, you amaze me. You openly dislike the First Amendment. Your way is not to have a Forum for debate but to have cyber-cult to worship the Kennedys. Sorry, that is not me. I view them as nepotistic people speaking out of both sides of their mouths. One for the public, two in private. Dear oh dear Douglas, please don't say that you call yourself an American, because you obviously don't accept its Constitution.

No, and no.

Evidence provided

To end all speculation, here is the true story of this vessel: 1. This ship was built in 1944 for service as an Army military cargo vessel during World War II, and became: 2. FP 263 (one of scores of vessels built to the same standard design for mass production.) Then it was transferred to the US Merchant Marine and became: 3. AKL 2 Deal as a cargo vessel during the Korean War. 4. Then it was mothballed and later resold to a private company as a cargo vessel called: 5. Don Carlos. 6. Then everything goes fuzzy when Lloyds list it as the Olga Princess. However, apart from Lloyds listing there is no record of a ship by that name that was the Don Carlos. 7. The next authentic record shows the CIA (SGA) buying the vessel and obtaining it from a USAF pen in South Miami as the Olga Patricia. Don Pierson was asked about the name 'Olga Princess' and he said that it was a sister ship, but no such vessel has been discovered to date. 8. Olga Patricia saw service in the Gulf of Mexico launching high altitude helium balloons which dropped propaganda on Cuba. 9. Don Pierson obtained the Olga Patricia via a ship's mortgage from the same South Miami bank used by Dr Manuel Artime Buesa, who was a part of both the Bay of Pigs invasion, and its failed successor called AMWORLD. 10. The Olga Patricia was outfitted in Miami with 2 50kW radio stations that sailed to the North Sea in 1966 and broadcast as 'Swinging Radio England' and 'Britain Radio, hallmark of quality". 11. After both radio stations went bust in 1966, the ship was renamed and reregistered as Laissez Faire. 12. In 1967, Don Pierson was told to sell it as a radio ship. He offered it to many nations (I have seen the actual letters.) The only taker was Papa Doc of Haiti but that deal fell through. 13. The ship reverted to Olga Patricia and was docked in Miami where is was seized by US Marshals and put up for sale. 14. Continental Electronics were given back the radio stations on board and they resold them as two different private radio station companies broadcasting on land to South Africa. 15. The Olga Patricia ended up in the hands of another expat Cuban group who renamed it Akuarius II and a LOT of other names using a flip-chart hanging over the bow! 16. After one raid during which it was shot up by Fidel Castro's planes, it docked for safety in South Carolina and was grabbed by the US Justice Department who then sold it to: 17. Zapata Haynie Inc., who chopped it down in size and reconfigured it as a fishing vessel in their large fleet, and renamed it after the company's boss: 18. Earl J.Conrad Jr. 19. After lengthy service as a fishing vessel it was scrapped. That is the true history of this ship.

".... since you indicate you are active on Facebook .... " I was, but I am not now due to the amount of rubbish that appears there and which has been of no help to me whatsoever. I sometimes put up something to update the pages but that is all. Facebook is just about useless except for wasting my time.

Yes, we know that. So .....?

You wrote: "if you're looking at de Mohrenschildt in Haiti objectively — not through the lens of little Don Pierson or the Olga Patricio ...." I guess that says it all by explaining what is in all those folders that are stacked in a small room in Santa Fe. They are folders stacked upon other folders with more folders on their way, and they will be stacked on top of existing folders. So here is a suggestion that does not require folders but volunteers: ask your local food bank if you can be of assistance to them. That will occupy your lonely moments by introducing you to some new friends.

I paid a lot of money for it and then someone else got a copy of it off ebay for next to nothing! I loaned my copy for review and the person who bought a copy also reviewed it. It appears to be a book with partially real names and partially fake with a discernable timeline in the first half and a totally rubbish second half. Then I got in touch with his widow and his daughter responded as well. They responded by telling me that Bill began the book before becoming terminally ill and a ghost writer completed it. A limited number of books were printed and delivered to their Houston home which partially flooded in one of those sudden and torrential floods that strike Houston, and a lot of books were written off as useless. They sent me a translation list of the fake names to show who they really represented. Some I could fathom. Some events in the first half I could track. Jones Harris then added his two-cents worth about the Chinese. I tracked him down to his apartment in New York and afterwards dismissed what he had to say. He was listened to because he was one of the first to challenge the official version of the JFK murder. But it was the first half of the book which ties McLendon's father to the CIA and 'Radio Nord' which is of interest. According to Weaver's own pre-publication manuscripts ("notes"), Radio Nord in the Baltic was a listening station. It appears that this meant a sonar listening station for USSR nuclear submarine movements. The station appeared when Oswald appeared in Helsinki - just above the Baltic, and was there when Oswald found his way to Minsk. He got there from New Orleans to France to England and then by some mysterious route to Helsinki. This was the day after the British General Election and London hotels were already swamped. Without knowing what McLendon, Murchison and Thompson were involved with - which included the CIA 'Radio Free Europe' which was tied to the Houston Post and the Hobby family, none of Weaver's stuff makes sense. It has to be factored in with Pierson's two-ship stations and a lot of other material which the JFK enthusiasts are mostly unaware of. Gary Murr was the first to stumble across some of it which he shared with Larry Hancock, and then Gary notified a friend of mine to look in this direction. I am putting our own findings into book form.

No insults, I genuinely don't want to know about your mother's movements. With regards to whatever it is you are now asking, I don't know anything about it. Okay?

Larry you can find this document (below) and a lot of other stuff by and about DAP at https://archive.org/details/nsia-PhillipsDavidAtlee/nsia-PhillipsDavidAtlee/Phillips David Atlee 31/

"JFK kept us out of two wars."? Please admit that your wrote this as a joke. The man was mad. He nearly gave us a nuclear WWIII.

Whatever LHO was doing he was not a part of the real plot. Occam's Razor and Blakey's version go hand in glove - except for the missing third dimension. But the missing third dimension was part of the cover-up and not the plot to kill.