Mervyn Hagger

Why isn't Occam's Razor being used as a guide to responding to this subject? The responses seem to extremely convoluted in some instances. What I find interesting is the contact throwing around of guilt by association instead of showing a motive to kill, a potential killer and the money to pay-off and bribe officials. To my mind the arrow points directly at New Orleans and one Mafia boss in particular. He had the motive and the money and the contacts. Instead of exhausting the most obvious answer, this board seems to jump around into the most obscure threads that would never make it into a court of law.

Yes, I saw his response but there is no CIA document. I am not sure how that works. Is it getting removed and repasted? I don't know but I think Cory hit the nail on the head and so did Larry. It appears to be a hoax and so there is not point in drawing any further attention to it. You might to delete this thread.

This page belongs to someone else named Lee D. Shepherd and that CIA document is not on that site either. Has it been rapidly removed from all sites?

98 pages for $100. Did someone mutter the word "conjob" ?

David, instead of plastering this stuff over and over and over again, perhaps you should address the possibility that you are indeed promoting a cult commentary that is shot through like Swiss cheese?

Thanks Larry. I had not see it before. Douglas said that he got it from the Facebook page of a Texas lawyer, but when I went to that page I could not find it. The lawyer must have already removed it. Perhaps it was pasted on his page as a comment by someone else. However when I went in search of the person who wrote the article cited that debunked it, he too vanished into thin air. The last reference to him that I could find was two years ago. All told it seems to be a very misleading thread that Douglas has created and perhaps it should be deleted before more mischief is created? I am not suggesting that Douglas did so deliberately but perhaps he had not seen this document before, and so he fell for it since it seemed to appear on a reputable page managed by a lawyer. Now that same lawyer seems to have removed it from his page.

Who is Garrick Alder? I can only find blog comments from him that ended two years ago. Is he dead? How reliable is his expose?

Cory, thank you. I followed your link and it does indeed present a multifaceted challenge regarding everything that this Texas attorney has placed on line regarding LHO. Therefore the challenge is for Douglas to produce evidence that this CIA memo is genuine because when I went in search of it on Facebook, I could not find it. Does this mean that the attorney was quickly informed that the memo was a hoax and took it down? Either way Douglas, the ball is in your court to even find the link to the attorney who you claim to have got it from today. I can't find it on his Facebook page. Have you been conned, or what? If it is genuine then it is a bombshell, but then it should be headline news everywhere if it is genuine.

I found your book listed on Amazon. I will check it out. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Showdown-Big-Sandy-Greg-Doudna/dp/0978983807 I see that Google put a lot of it online here: https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Showdown_at_Big_Sandy/0lKHI3VUAkkC?hl=en&gbpv=1

Jim, I agree, whoever the CIA, or a branch of the CIA was 'running' as an agent or agents of some sort under variations of the name Lee Harvey Oswald, there is no doubt a tangled thread involving a lot of misinformation overlapped the events leading up to and including November 22, 1963. Trying to untangle the specifics and decipher what is true and what is false from this jumble is impossible. There has to be another backstory, a thread overlooked to date which creates its own timeline and snares the various participants in JFK's murder. I have found one such thread and it is tied to ships which are also tied to the CIA. The thing about ships, even before the days of satnav, is that they have birthdays and registrations of where they were and who owned them and what they were doing. Part of that documentation comes from insurance requirements. It is information overlooked by everyone until now. This documentation shows who had an interest in the murder of JFK and why. It also leads to the entanglement of a lot people having unrelated plans that they had (and have) no wish to expose. It was this factor that came to light and was brought to the attention of a Mafia boss in New Orleans which he then exploited to his own benefit.

Thanks Greg! Did you publish this in book format?

Thanks Larry. It was Gary Murr who contacted a friend of mine in Norway who had an interest in the mv Olga Patricia that began my own interest. My friend in Norway sent me a copy of Gary's email. I wondered if it was a hoax or something worse. It took some time to get a response from Gary whose own interest came from researching his unpublished manuscript and a chapter called 'Forgotten'. Then I bought your own book called 'Shadow Warriors' and I learned a lot more about the Olga Patricia and Dr Manuel Artime Buesa and his company called BAM. I joined Mary Ferrell and gained access to her wonderful collection that also included the CIA history of their original involvement with the mv Olga Patricia. From there I went to similar archives as well as delving into the newspaper archives which revealed even more information. The foundation of my interest began in 1985 with Don Pierson giving me his legal and financial archives which included the maritime mortgages for the Olga Patricia. They were tied to a bank used by Manuel Artime. All of this took place along side my simultaneous interest in Don Pierson's 'Radio London' venture. It was put together by a CIA lawyer in Chicago with ties to the CIA bank in the Bahamas. I followed all of these leads back to McLendon, Murchison and Thompson. As a result of receiving manuscripts from the widow of McLendon's national sales manager Bill Weaver - which he had written and others tampered with prior publication - I was introduced to the allegation tht McLendon was involved in the assassination of JFK. All of this research then led me to investigating the Special Group, the Special Group (Augmented) and Operation Mongoose. I was tipped off by a retired Marconi radio engineer to buy a book from Australia about PsyOps which linked back to RFK at the SGA, and his links to the radio ship used by McLendon, Murchison and Thompson called 'Radio Nord' and anchored in the Baltic. Then I discovered that McLendon was an advisor to Radio Free Europe which was a CIA front. Similar discoveries into the broadcasting operations of Herbert W. Armstrong led to the CIA's Radio Swan, Radio Monte Carlo and Armstrong broadcasts in Russian aimed at the USSR, and Armstrong's funding of the pop pirate stations that ringed the UK from 1964 to 1967. My Marconi friend also pointed me to take a look at Churchill's secret WWII broadcasting empire run by Sefton Delmer. Even though I drove over that 'X' in Dallas and went to the 6th floor of the SBD, and lived just down the road from the grave of LHO, I was sick and tired of the entire JFK Assassination subject until Gary Murr wrote his emal to my friend in Norway. One final point. Because a stream of misinformation about my friend Don Pierson (who I went into business with), began to appear in audio and print form, I took one an audio recording about him and played it to Don and asked him for his comments. That led me to interviewing him on tape because no one else had done this. But when I got to asking him about Senator John Tower he got very agitated and with a hand gesture told me to stop the recording. I told my friend in Norway about this and he kept bugging me to find out why. I was not interested. Then, one day, Gary's email showed up and it proved to be the match that lit the fuse to blowing away the rubbish about the murder of JFK and finding the true story. I have now bought several more books published by Larry and added them to our ever expanding library. We intend to use it as the basis for publishing our own discoveries that all began through this very convoluted and strange series of events.

I followed the links here and went to Amazon.

Keyan, I NEVER engage in ad hominem attacks, even though I do get attacked in this way by others. In reply I ask you to read your first sentence in your first reply to me. That is the 'Steve Martin' point number one. You dismissed it and then moved on with a slab of stuff that is irrelevant to me and to the issue being discussed. Go back to YOUR first sentence which is dismissive, and this time answer it. There is absolutely no need to go on to a point number two that I am not interested in - until you answer point number one. Please, don't accuse me of what you are doing to me!

Why not stick to the trunk of the tree: Oswald was a "patsy", end of story - except for David Von Pein.

Why is this book already out with only about 98 pages and a price tag of $100?

No, let's not, David. If anyone is the cult believer in conspiracies it is you and your avalanche of assorted material collected in support of the Warren Report. First you admit to not knowing what the Special Group (Augmented) or SGA is, then, when pinned into a corner you waffle your way out by saying you read about it somewhere, but you don't care to know about it. The conspiracy cult began with Winston Churchill and his claim in a full page 1920 newspaper article that he wrote about the Illuminated Jews being the reason for the USSR. Not all Jews, only Jews who refused to convert to Churchill's brand of Christianity like Benjamin Disraeli. Today Churchill's stupid and bigoted views would get him booted into oblivion. Churchill was the father of modern terrorism backed by the State (SOE) and father of the CIA via OSS. The Steve Martin School says stick to point number one and don't let David Von Pein wiggle his way out of the trap he set for himself, and I won't. I am a student of the SMS and its lesson when applied works wonders! 🤨

David, the evidence from many, many sources regarding many, many evidential facts clearly make a mockery of certain authors such as Gerald Posner. The others, well there may have been a degree of self-deception for a variety of reasons. Some like Vincent Bugliosi may have a slightly different reason for advancing the same sort of nonsense that you support, and William Manchester may be excused if he was not privy to some of the concealed evidence that has now come to light. But it is your goose-step march that identifies you as a true believer in Kennedy cultism. Many religious cult followers have the same problem. It is so easy to start following the leader and so difficult to start thinking for yourself and wondering if the leader was wrong. However, as far as the Kennedy cult is concerned you are pretty low on the totem pole of leadership, so don't worry about other people, worry about yourself.

Look around this forum David, not everyone believes the Warren Report. The one person who is out of step is you, the majority have various views, but you seem to have only one that supports the Warren Report. You may have heard the saying about "none so blind ... ect." Well, in this instance, it is you.

"Grooming" is not a crazy idea, it is something that medical professionals and law enforcement deal with every hour of every day. It is not a joke. In your instance, what makes you stand out from the rest is that you are the doyen of Warren Report memorabilia in that it has become an obsession with you. Clearly from your previous remarks you do not understand psyops and consequently you do not understand what it is that you are trying to promote. You are a victim of your own making and you need help. But you should seek out a professional who can advise you on how to free yourself from the cult membership that you have become attached to. 🤔

The reason you don't know that you were groomed is because you were successfully groomed. As I previously explained to you, if you knew that you were being groomed in all probability you would have got angry and resisted. But that is how a "patsy" becomes a "patsy". Or to put it another way, that is how people are conned out of millions each day by conmen who simply want to steal money. The sex trade works the same way. Young people are groomed to become sex slaves and some people, such as yourself are groomed to become political misdirects. If you need further assistance in understanding this process, please ask and if I can't help you I can probably refer you to various professional bodies who specialize in dealing with cases such as your own. That's all (for now.) 😁

Oh boy! What a question! The answer seems to be the same people who got you to promote the Warren Report. 🤔 People who get groomed don't know that they are being groomed, if they did they probably would get very angry at the person who was trying to take away their own freedom of thought. 🫢

Ah yes, another candidate for the Steve Martin School. Please address point number one before switching to point number two. You are sitting on a furore (not a fortune, nor a fuhrer.) 🤐

Ahh, I caught you out David. You asked two questions but you only want one answer. So, in response to your question number one about the evidence against Oswald, the key to the answer is in your inclusion of the word "ALL". Therefore I must answer "no". But, if you remove YOUR WORD "all", then my answer is "yes" in the way that it pertains to your second question about Oswald being a "patsy". Of course he was a "patsy". But was the record in Japan that was attributed to Lee Harvey Oswald a fake? Not necessarily if we can determine who exactly was in Japan. Was it the same person who was shot by Jack Ruby? In any event David, I suggest you keep quiet for awhile and see how someone has obviously groomed you to be yet another "patsy" in posting misinformation. That's all. 😇