Robert Card

You've now reached the level of worthlessness of George Floyd. I think the mods must have you on ignore, which is where you're going to be with me from here on out. One thing I forgot, Floyd was also a porn star, but his movies have been taken down from Pornhub. A friend says he has them, but there are pictures available. Are you, and Ms Beckett aware of the brutality of how women are treated in the porn industry? Let's see, you've called me a scumbag, a psychopath, a sociopath, and a bey-otch. You have more replies coming in now that I've not read. Bye!!

The question is more of why would the Police respond at all for a $20 loss. Most departments have a cutoff of various amounts, like $250 before they respond. So I don't know what a newspaper is, and I have no acknowledgement of the talking heads on TV, so where do I get my info? It's from a network of investigators around the world that have no NWO agenda like the NY Times or Wash Post, just truth from locals who know what's going on in their neighborhoods. It started with JFK back in the 1960's. We'd meet after a speaker, say, at the 92nd St Y in Manhattan. So what are the locals saying about Floyd, and Cheuvin who worked together at the El Nuevo Rodeo Club? Cheuvin worked there for 17 years. This club was used for trafficking of women and children from Mexico. The club also was used for laundering counterfeit money as well as drug sales. Floyd had been stealing too much of the counterfeit money, and was flashing it around. Cheuvin was brought in to do a hit on Floyd as he knew too much, and the fantastic corruption of the City of Minneapolis was about to be exposed. It's obvious that this was a planned murder, no cop in the country would illegally abuse a prisoner in handcuffs like that for 9 minutes. It happens of course, but Cheuvin was on a training mission. The other two cops that you don't see in the video were very new, one being on the force for 3 days, and the other on the force for 4 days, so no way would you teach newbies to choke someone to death on their first week on the job. The club and the local PD has been destroyed in the riots, .....destroy the evidence of the counterfeiting? Big clue is that when the EMT came up, two Minn State Troopers got out and picked up Floyd's body and put him in the ambulance. Why two State Troopers operating an ambulance? According to EMT officers, they violated all medical principles by not taking a pulse and doing CPR right there on the street. There's too much wrong here. Before you start jumping all over me, the Floyd family is on my side, and feels that this murder was intentional and was based on something personal from the Club. Floyd and Cheuvin knew each other very well, and according to co-workers, did not get along with one another. Cheuvin should be charged with murder in the first degree, but I doubt that will happen. I think he's going to pull an Epstein, and commit a false suicide. There's much, much more raw intel coming in right now, and it's hard to process all of it, so it may take a year for me to figure all of this out. The Club, and in fact, the whole block facing the street was destroyed in the riots. Odd for a riot to occur here, far from the city center, and just two blocks from where Jesse Ventura grew up. Before, the Club has the yellow sign on the right. After, the club would be on the right: https://ibb.co/pysRZxN

ALL internet trolls are psychopaths, look it up, as you need a lesson there, too. I'm not a psychopath. I"ve presented all kinds of evidence which you cowardly ignored, except for declaring you're some kind of burnt out druggie. Who's t-r-0-l-l-?

well good, maybe we'll hear 'I can't breathe' from you in the future, after all, you're an expert on 'Partying'.

I enjoy the banter too, but I'm strictly a lurker, as I can't handle that guy, David von Pein. There are some people that are just a waste of time. The problem is that when someone sees the Mainstream Media as a religion creating their reality. I can't discuss anything with them. There's a much more clear video available now of Gugino holding a phone down by the policeman's belt. He may have been trying to use the phone as a capture scanner to 'skim' and decipher encrypted communication signals of the police. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1268784881422786560.html Big-azz Jesuit Gugino is sure loved by the Jesuits. This is all I need to know. https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2020/06/09/martin-gugino-catholic-peace-activist-not-antifa-provocateur-friends

I guess the Admin's name is Ms Beckett, and she closed the thread and gave as a reason that 'it may be fake'. I realize that I had it a day before anyone else, but it could have been determined that the autopsy was completed on May 26, and released on June 3 with a simple google. Also, while I realize this is usually a free speech forum, there are limits. Autopsy pdf that may be fake, but it will get corrected later if it's wrong? A list of drugs that no one knows if he used or not? Just throw it out there and see if it sticks, right? Now Mr Caddy states here that 'it could be a fake'. Again, easily googled to find it was true, even as he posted this: I just checked the Drudge Report, Washington Post, New York Times and Raw Story and there is nothing about the autopsy you cite. I hardly believe it would be released on the day of his memorial funeral in Minneapolis. It could be a fake report. I read somewhere that it will take several weeks for the toxicology report to be completed. 'it may be fake', 'it could be fake', but the thread was closed using the word fake, and because some mods couldn't handle the truth. 'got high'?? you must not have looked up how dangerous fentanyl is, as I advised. so fentanyl, cocaine, amphetamines, heroin, THC, cigarettes, positive for CV-19. I'll use Mr Caddy's word, it could have had an effect on his breathing. also, if you look as Floyd is being taken out of his car, and is rounding the left rear, he drops a little white bag. what's in that little white bag he's dropping. i'll use Ms Beckett's term, it may be drugs. Character?? Yea, we're all scumbags here in Colombia, where we wouldn't give one second of thought to this guy. His gofundme stands at about $14,000,000 right now, and this is before the wrongful death suit is litigated. What, another 50, 100 million. Maybe he should be President. Deadbeat Dad....Floyd's kids had no idea that was their father, they had to be called by the mother to say, 'that's your dad'. Served 5 years for a brutal home invasion, where Floyd held a pistol up against the stomach of the victim. She was pregnant at the time. When she screamed for help, she was then pistol whipped about the head. Five other felonies as well. I'm proud to be called a scumbag by you.

Mr Wheeler, they're not critical thinkers except in their JFK research, and that they do that very, very well. If anything current is not in the mainstream media, then they say it's not true. They said the autopsy report that I posted was a 'fake', when it could easily have been proven as true with a simple googling. If it doesn't fit their confirmation bias, then they say it's not true. Cognitive dissonance is quite painful. https://www.startribune.com/george-floyd-autopsy-report-released-he-tested-positive-for-covid-19-in-april/571000102/ you'e wasting your time.

again, the Defense doesn't have to prove anything, it's up to the Prosecution to prove their case. all the Defense has to do is try and muddy up the waters and add reasonable doubt. it also depends on what evidence the judge will allow to be presented in the trial. a defense attorney may present the drug evidence, then maybe the 78lbs of impacted fecal matter and its affect on breathing, then an Israeli expert witness saying they he taught the cop to do that, and the cop was following procedure. the biggest problem the prosecution has is that the homicide charge has been upped to 2nd degree, and this makes it tougher to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. but the biggest factor is the fact that you Americans need to know that your juries are stacked. this could go either way because of corruption.

i didn't miss anything, in fact, i have a lot of info here that's not been posted that bolsters my case. the ME report contradicts your statement that he 'turned his life around.' counterfeiting is no way to turn your life around. (remember, i'm just playing around here, i believe, as many do that this was a psyop. there's evidence that Floyd is still alive. lookup on youtube the ex-police chief that presents her case for this.)

alright, a friend got back to me about the authenticity of the autopsy report, and he states that it was released to press, but the press only printed the first page. they had the whole thing. how is the nutwork going to keep the riots going with that bit of truth out there? btw, i have more info on the autopsy from my friend, and it appears that Floyd had 78 pounds of fecal matter impacted in his colon, and would often defecate himself in public as a result of not having any control over his bowels. he is reported to be a 10 year cocaine addict, had heroin that day in his system, and was a cigarette smoker. i'm told that the bowel problem is evidence of being a heroin addict, but i'm no toxicologist. IF ANY OF THIS IS WRONG, i will take it back, but we have to wait.

what i'm doing here is giving an opinion from someone removed from the 1st world. we have our own culture here that is totally different from the U.S., so therefore, our opinions are different. i'm not saying it's right, i'm saying it's the way it is here. Character assasination?? With a record like this, what kind of character did he have? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8366533/George-Floyd-moved-Minneapolis-start-new-life-released-prison-Texas.html 6 time felon. that heinous home invasion he did of a pregnant woman is particulary disturbing. nothing this bad happens in mainstream Colombia, and if it did, he wouldn't be around long. we don't depend entirely on the police as we often time take care of our own problems, it's only $50 for a hitman here, so people are very polite. this pregnant woman's father, brother, or uncle would take care of this. i'm not saying this is right, although it's very effective at cleaning out the bad blood, i'm saying that's the way it is, that's the culture, and we like it that way. if you don't like this method, then you shouldn't be mixing cultures. your average Colombian could careless what happened to Floyd. they hate criminals.

haha, four of the biggest nonsense organizations that there are. the reason people have trouble with me is that i'm the only person you know that has no interaction with the mainstream media, whatsoever. i have no clue as to what's said in the mainstream. i don't watch TV, or read newspapers for even a minute a year. to tell the truth, that preliminary autopsy report probably is fake. to me, everything is fake until i see it up close. that was sent to me by a friend, so we'll have to see. when the official, and final medical examiner report becomes available, i'll most likely believe that's fake, too. in fact, i already do believe it'll be fake. there's too much wrong with this psyop.

get ready for some more riots after the cop is found not guilty, as a defense attorney is going to have a field day with the autopsy report.....(attached) Floyd was postive for these drugs, although i don't know what the other drugs are so i didn't include them. do you have any idea how dangerous fentanyl is?? fentanyl methamphetamine cannabinnoids THC amphetamines morphine sickle cell anemia Covid-19 tested positive isn't Covid-19 an acute respiratory disease? does any of this have any impact on his death? btw, i don't believe any of this virus nonsense going around the world until i have more time to study it. the cop, and Floyd up to now are a false flag, just my opinion. oh yes, this is a JFK site. JFK and Jackie visited Bogota as part of the Alliance for Progress, and built a lot of homes here, that are still standing today. Colombians loved him. https://thecitypaperbogota.com/bogota/jfks-legacy-in-bogota-lives-on-55-years-later/15680 Autopsy_2020-3700_Floyd.pdf

from the article: "Protests have led to some changes but they haven’t solved the problem. Money has been spent on body cameras, which have rarely had any impact. Similarly, training on de-escalation and racial sensitivity has made little difference." uhh, Multiculturalism doesn't work?? after centuries of failure, it's time to try a new approach, one that stops telling black people they have to act like white people. MC doesn't work.

Yes, pretty well hopeless for many, but not totally hopeless, as there's a few that know the plan. Basically, it first involves just turning off the idiot box. Moving to another country while approaching retirement or actually in retirement is actually prohibitive. How can you use your Medicare if that applies to you? I have to pay out of pocket for most of my medical care. I first spoke Serbo-Croatian, then English, then studied French, then later studied Japanese in college. Learning Spanish in old age has been the toughest mental feat I've ever attempted, and I can't understand most people after 15 years. I know though that Colombia is safe because of the amount of CIA families moving here. I could understand one or two, but there are tons of CIA families moving here. My mind is open, but I can't think of any other reason except they're protecting their wives and kids. The work of the late Professor Rudolph Rummel, the greatest political scientist in history, is something that cannot be ignored. In this link, he proves that govt's are the biggest genocidists, and he calls this Democide, and doesn't count war deaths as part of the statistics. People should spend a lot of time at this website, there's a couple of books there in the links, and everything is backed up statistically. He doesn't even mention the Spanish Flu pandemic. Ron, who created the Spanish Flu virus, and where was it developed? 50 million killed? You may trust the nutwork, but I certainly don't. Really, this link is enlightening. http://hawaii.edu/powerkills/welcome.html I hesitate putting this next link because you need a lot background information first. I'm just the messenger here, and this is compiled from all kinds of models from the CIA, United Nations, IMF, Universities, and especially Henry Kissinger, who revealed this info many years ago. (Kissingers' blurt-outs have been removed from the web.) According to this model, the population of the U.S will be two thirds less in 2025. Looks like the BRIC's will defeat the West in World War 3. Deagel is a site like Jane's, and is supposedly run by Colonel/Doctor Edwin Deagle, former Director of Raytheon Microelectronics, and was assistant to the Secy of Defense. If this is true, then the future for the U.S. is grave. Don't kill the messenger here, which is me, look up the pros and cons to decide on the validity for yourself. http://www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx You don't think a NYC real estate developer will find his way into the Presidency, and start lobbing missiles around, do you? Trump is a nuthin, I mean c'mon. https://youtu.be/jkghtyxZ6rc

I promise you, the world is not going to be saved, the world is going to be destroyed as we know it, and it’s coming soon. There’s no way to fight the Deep State, they’re too powerful. All you can do is make the best deal for yourself, like I did, because I know Colombia is exempt from what’s about to come. That’s why I’m here, Colombia is a safe place, and my family and myself will be fine. Ron, you made a thread called War, and I read all through it. It really saddened me because it’s nothing but posters repeating what they read/heard in the dupe news. They pick their opinions through confirmation bias of their preferred sources, and they’re all BS. It’s as if no one on this site has ever heard of Operation Mockingbird, and subsequent mind control psyops. I’m going to prove it, right here and now, that whatever most people think is entirely wrong. I’m going to show that the entire system is nonsense from top to bottom. Through cognitive dissonance, no one will give this example any thought whatsoever, and you’re going to block it all out. OK, here goes. On Oct 31, 2016, Hillary Clinton announced that she was going to have an election night victory party in Manhattan that involved a fireworks display along the Hudson River. She must have been pretty confident to do this, and was very certain she was going to win the election. https://ibb.co/DrffkQL However, there was some trouble coming her way, because in those days, the FBI announced they were going to revive its probe into her private email server scandal. (I think the Deep State ordered Comey to do this.) Next, and most importantly, a huge cache of classified emails that top aide Huma Abedin left on a laptop that hubby Anthony Weiner may have used to text an underage girl in North Carolina was discovered. (BTW, how many cops that handled this laptop “committed suicide” afterwards?) The Deep State now had a problem as the investigation into this scandal would never stop, and her Presidency would be doomed. So the order was given to dump Hillary, and program George Soros’ voting machines to make Trump the winner. Now for the clincher. Why did Hillary cancel her victory celebration before the votes were counted? To do anything in Manhattan costs a fortune, police/fire/sanitation overtime would be quite expensive, probably a couple of million. So why pay this needless expense. Check out the link showing the timestamp of when she cancelled her victory celebration: (she cancelled the day before election day.) https://ibb.co/r7SFq23 She was going to win in a landslide, correct? Even Trump was surprised that he won. Trump winning Pennsylvania is another clue. Penn is a highly Democratic State, and the closer you get to NYC, the more Trump is hated. There’s no way Trump would win Penn. This reminds me of Republican Arlen Specter being rewarded for his stupid bullet theory with 30 years in the Senate from Penn, where almost nobody knows anyone that ever voted for him. OK, is there anyone still with me? So why did she cancel her victory celebration before the votes were counted, and where she was a landslide victor? This example proves one thing, that voting is a fraud and a hoax. The slaves have nothing to do with electing a President. It’s all a scam. (Don’t tell anybody, but the President of the U.S. is actually chosen by a Conclave of Cardinals at the Vatican.) To be more accurate, one slave did in fact impact, and decide the election, and that was Anthony Weiner. So Ron, this is why we’re doomed. No one will read or study what happened here, and if they did, they won’t make the connection because of cognitive dissonance, and then they’ll just head back to the TV set.

Now that the Revolutionary War is mentioned, I wanted to write this above when I mentioned “Rulers of Evil”, that there’s one issue I have with Saussy, and that is he doesn’t offer enough backup to his claim that the Black Pope at that time, Lorenzo Ricci, was responsible for the Revolutionary War. I think what he says is true, but he needs more scholarly references. In the defense of Saussy, the Jesuit Suppression started a few years before the war, and they went into hiding, so there wouldn’t be much in writing or decrees on the activites of the Jesuits during that time. That is the only issue I have with the book. As for the Rothschilds, Mayer Amschel Rothschild was a Knight of Malta, as shown in his regalia https://ibb.co/WKfm0Br – The Jewish Encyclopedia (Vol. 2, p. 497) admits that: “It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time (1905) the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure.” Rothschilds are the Papal bank account.

Thanks, Chris, I received my copy from Scribd.com, but you have to pay to get in there. I looked on archive.com, and they don’t have it. Archive is really good, and there’s a lot of good books, and all for free. Some you can borrow for a couple of weeks. You seem interested, so I’d like to offer you and the group a great book on real history, “The Strange Death of FDR.” If you don’t have time to read the whole thing, just read Chapter 23. https://archive.org/details/StrangeDeathOfFDR This is a screen shot of the first page of Chapt 23 to see if I can pique your interest: https://ibb.co/pdZ01dk

absolutely, https://ibb.co/fkLw8Fz

Well written comment, Jim. OK, I opened the book again, and started reading, but a little slower this time. He does say in Chapter 1 that there’s a level of ‘advisors and consultants’ above his Elite. He mentions quite frequently, social class warfare, rich and poor, Brooks Brothers, thereby revealing his roots in sociology, and not history. It’s true so far what he writes, but I’m more interested in who’s at the top. So who’s controlling the Power Elite? The influence of the Catholic Church was out in the open back in the ’50’s. You had Bishop Fulton J Sheen with his 30 million weekly audience, and he could fill Yankee Stadium. This Eisenhower Campaign commercial is fascinating to me. At the end, you have the Society of Jesus logo, and more importantly you have the statue on top of the Capital Building superimposed on the logo. Scrub the timeline over to :50. Who is that on top of the Capital Building??? Now that’s where the ‘power’ is, and firmly planted on the top above Congress. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmCDaXeDRI4 So here's a photo of the S J logo to compare with the end of the video. The other photo is the logo of the Smithsonian. They would never do this today. https://ibb.co/h2p2gsX It pains me to read this site when some distraction like Trump, and his impeachment is being discussed. Why waste your time? It’s too messy to take out a President JFK or Nixon style. Today, the removal is built into the job. If Trump starts thinking he’s President, he’ll be taken out by the $400 million in phony loans that he has out there. Also, maybe a clip from Epstein Island. If Obama had stepped off the reservation, they had the phony birth certificate, and again, gone in 48 hours. So some of what you’re studying and writing about is just a distraction.

This is one of the best threads I’ve seen in the year or so I’ve been reading this site. Many here are opposed to the existence of the Deep State/Nutwork, and the overwhelming power they possess. In my case, I’ve spent my whole life studying the subject of who runs the world, and how do they do it. The conclusions I’ve drawn will make a person sick. As the OP quotes, “who controls the present controls the past…,” and that’s true. You have to go back over the last 500 years and see what really happened, and who’s behind everything. it’s shocking. You can’t understand today until you relearn the past few centuries. No one is going to change anything, but life is much easier knowing how the world works, you can sit back and relax as we're all nothing more than slaves. You can even use your new found knowledge of ‘the plan’ to make money in the options market. This is the closest you’ll ever get to inside financial information. I wish I joined the nutwork as a child instead of debating the JFK assassination, i can't believe how stupid I was, as it was a waste of time arguing with David von Pein types, and since the 90’s with him. Your opponents are secret/private society types whose job is to keep you locked into the WC report, which is a fruitless endeavor. I downloaded “Power Elite”, and skimmed through it, there’s nothing in there that’s not known, just the one percent that works for the nutwork. I have a real book for you, and you’ll need about 3 more to get you started. Believe me, you’ll understand all the assassinations, JFK, the Cold War, WW2, and look at the world in a different way. But first you have to relearn the past. I’m trying to help you, I really am. I struggle each day as a lurker reading comments about Trump, Obama, Clintons, Bush, etc, them being nothing but actors/puppets, and they’re all against you because they’re all working for the nutwork. Obama and his teleprompter should be proof of a higher power. https://www.amazon.com/Rulers-Evil-Useful-Knowledge-Governing/dp/0066210836/ref=sr_1_1?crid=ZDBPHXVOF6BB&keywords=rulers+of+evil+saussy&qid=1579032608&s=books&sprefix=rulers+of+evil%2Cstripbooks%2C195&sr=1-1 “Rulers of Evil” by Tupper Saussy. If you haven’t seen this, then I have a belated holiday gift for you. J Edgar Hoover received this award two days before the release of the Warren Commission report. So what did Johnnie and Clyde do in 1963-4 that would merit this award?? hmmm?? The Sword of Loyola is the highest award the Society of Jesus bestows on a Knight of Malta. https://ibb.co/1KNs3qj https://ibb.co/4pxfMkT Please don't start flaming, I'm a 50-year scholar in this area.

Lance, half of a typical comment from you is ad hominem. 'Conspiracy Game', and everything else is ad hom. The reason for this is it covers you from having to answer the question. You were challenged by Greg Parker from ROK recently, and you completely avoided the points of his comments, and instead used it for more disparaging comments directed towards CTer's. You should have been banned a long time ago. But again, if you want to address the comments here with dignity, I'm sure all will agree you should stay,

Lance was leading us down the primrose path, not the rabbit hole. Same with that lawyer in Paris, France, I forget his name. The rabbit hole is when you dig further and further for the truth, taking the 'red pill'. When you get there, as you so succinctly stated before, you find that 'up is down, and down is up.' That's where I'm at, and no matter what I say to anyone, they feel that they're up, and I'm down. That's sad, when most of the info can be found on the internet, or at least enough to get someone started. You can even make a living with the truth in the options markets if you know the plan. There's the proof right there that I'm on the right track. You can also lead a relaxing life like I do, knowing that there's nothing you can do about anything, so just sit back and relax, and try and determine the plan so you can profit from it. Lance is a trained critical thinker, as all lawyers are, and law school is the only institution that teaches people to question everything, and to learn how to present evidence. (You don't think the Nutwork is going to provide us slaves with the tools to overthrow them, do you?) Like I said, he knows the WC report is nothing but hogwash, he's just defending a faction that he may or may not be a member. You guys pull your hair out discussing/arguing things with him and other LNers, when you should only be exposing them. I exposed Lance, and he left, although I really wish he would stay. He's an upstanding pillar of his community. All my life I've been treated with disrespect from the people I was trying to help.

Lance knows the evidence better than most do. He, along with other LNers are apologists for whatever private society they belong to. There's no way a person could be so dumb as to not see the contradictions of the WC report. Anytime someone says that there is absolutely not one shred of evidence to contradict the WC report or the FBI, then that's your tipoff that they're apologists for the group that did the assassination. DVP is another. Oh, and we know what Vincent Bugliosi was. I'm just teasing him, as he knows I know the deal. All he has is adhom, playing dumb with the evidence, and ridiculing and goading us. Same with DVP, and same with VB. Most will never see what I'm talking about, I'm just a guy that went too far down the rabbit hole. I could mention some names and specifics, but these guys are so connected that they can ruin my life, so I'm keeping my mouth shut. If you lived here in Colombia, you'd see what I mean.

Lance, don't leave, I downloaded Bill Turners' book, and so far only read the Foreword. You owe it to me to point out what's not true in the book. The Lone Nut Game needs support. Same ol, Same ol, 'shape shifting reptilians', playing dumb by not answering the previous comments, you represent the Laws of Disinformation very well. Those LN sites are private, and a new person can't get in. I could see if I can get you in? The owner is a member here but never writes anything. The religion is over Lance, it's too messy taking out a President JFK/Nixon style, so today they have the 'take-out mechanism' built into the Presidency. If Obama ever stepped off the reservation they had the phony birth certificate, and he'd be gone in 48 hours. Trump has some phony, illegal loans out there, and should he think that he's President, then he's gone in 48 hours. What about the President Carter assassination attempt? The time two lead actors, Raymond Lee Harvey and Oswaldo Espinoza Artiz came onto the scene and tried to take out Carter. Let's look at those names again, Raymond Lee Harvey and Oswaldo Espinoza Artiz. Carter got the message, and quit acting like a President, but they still took him out with the hostage crisis. The Trump assassination attempt in Las Vegas was absolutely fascinating. A patsy with loads of mysterious money, and a new secret society from Scotland that I never heard of. Fascinating. Lance, you gotta get the religion. And what about those 'shape shifting reptilians' you talk about? Have you ever viewed the Pope's Audience Hall in Vatican City? Look at the shape of the roof, the window/eye on the side, the scales on the roof. https://ibb.co/z2scW6V now compare the slope and angles with the head of a snake: https://ibb.co/0qxhTSh now we go inside, ....eyes, and fangs: https://ibb.co/qkqCwtJ now a little closer, and looking head-on, the Satanic baby Jesus: https://ibb.co/MM46MrP from looking directly in the front, you see the Satanic baby Jesus, but if you go to the extreme right or left, you see one of those reptilians you were talking about, Lance. https://ibb.co/6NJbWcp Nice sculpture for the Pope, right Lance? See, you were right all along about those reptilians. bwahahah Don't leave, I'll try and get through the Turner book as quickly as possible.