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Greg, Yeah, I thought about the maroon Cadillac with Louisiana plates too. Of course, we don't know for sure if that car really belonged to "Nick", merely that Estes believed so. But as I pointed out earlier, Estes believed that a new Cadillac Coupe de Ville belonged to Jack Ruby, when in fact it did not. That car was almost certainly Ralph Paul's 1962 Cadillac Coupe de Ville. So, could Estes be mistaken about the ownership of the maroon Cadillac? Sure. Was he mistaken? I don't know. As far as the accent thing goes, Noonday, Texas is a little over 100 miles from Shreveport, Louisiana. Is there a regional dialect in the eastern part of Texas that may be somewhat phonetically similar to a Louisiana accent? I don't have any idea, but it seems possible. In any case, the remarkable physical similarity between Estes' "Nick" and Buddy Turman is highly provocative. The fact that Buddy Turman also had a brother who went by the same name as the person whose phone number Jack Ruby carried around on his person is also highly interesting. Do brothers often bear a close physical resemblance to each other? Of course. The possible Jada connection to a possible "Nick" from New Orleans is worth investigating, but such a connection remains highly theoretical. Meanwhile, we now know of someone named "Nick" (Turman) so important to Jack Ruby that he carried this man's phone number around with him on his person!' And we also now know about a man who seems to be a perfect physical and employment match for Estes' "Nick". Greg, we both agree that more investigation is needed in both New Orleans and Texas. If you can figure out a way to get ahold of Joe Garner Turman, please let me know. Apparently, he is 89 years old, but he just might be able to help us here.

Greg, I haven't done any research on Ms. Kellough's possible whereabouts since 1963, but I do have (yet another) candidate for the "Nick" as described by Estes. Before I go on, I want to point out that you and I both agree that Estes was absolutely truthful in his recollection of events at Ruby's place in the summer of 1963. You and I might disagree over some of the possible identities of the people involved, but we agree that unraveling Estes' story is important, and maybe crucial. OK, enough of the preliminary. According to Estes, he was never introduced to "Nick", but overheard that name used in Ruby's office while serving drinks to Ruby, "Nick", "Chuck", and Oswald. Estes described "Nick" as "a white male but had a dark complexion. He was in early thirties or forties. He was about six foot two inches tall and he weighed over two hundred pounds. He had a very big frame. He had real black hair cut short. (Hand-written above that, it reads: "he had a mustache.")" Later, Estes described the dagger and snake tattoo on "Nick's" right arm. Estes said that "Nick" drove a 1962 or '63 maroon Cadillac, was a flashy dresser and hauled around a black briefcase, seemingly filled with cash. Estes claimed to have seen "Nick" only twice, on consecutive days. The second time (a weekday during the first or second week of August), the original four men were joined by (allegedly) John Connally and (Jim Leavelle.) I think is very unlikely that this early August meeting had anything to do with the late November assassination: the presidential trip to Texas was still three and half months away, and had not yet even been formulated in Washington, let alone planned, finalized and announced publicly. Whatever was going on in Ruby's office probably had much more to do with money-laundering, possibly campaign cash. (Could the Carousel Club and Jack Ruby have been a backdoor conduit for illegal campaign donations to be laundered through a cash-only business before being handed over to politicians? I don't know, but I do know that Ruby handled enormous amounts of cash on a daily basis and kept very few records. That sure sounds like an ideal business to use, if someone wanted to hide large amounts of cash. And Jack Ruby seemed to be just the kind of guy to go along with such an arrangement.) Anyway, Estes never claimed that "Nick" was an employee of Ruby's at the Carousel. So who was "Nick"? Well, we know from WC Exhibit 1567 that Ruby had a list of 23 names, addresses, and phone numbers which he carried about on his person. Among the names was a "Nick Turman TA 46229" (A local Dallas phone number) Warren Commission, Volume XXIII: CE 1567 - FBI report dated December 9, 1963, of interview of Bryan Powell at Dallas, Tex. (CD 86, p. 343-346). (history-matters.com) I don't know who this "Nick Turman" was, but he mattered to Jack Ruby. What I do know is that Ruby had known and employed (on a sporadic basis for several years) a professional heavyweight boxer to work security/general management around the Vegas Club. This man freely admitted that he was working for Ruby at the Vegas Club between January and July of 1963. This boxer was constantly short of cash, and Ruby gave him money regularly. History Matters Archive - Warren Commission Hearings, Volume XXII, pg (history-matters.com) His name was Reagan "Buddy" Turman. I do not know if he, Buddy, ever used the name "Nick", but I now know he had a younger brother named "Nickie" who died in 1999. Nickie Turman (1940 - 1999) - Genealogy (geni.com) This Ruby employee, Buddy Turman, fit the general, hanger-on type who would have been useful to Jack Ruby, particularly when it came to handling large amounts of cash. So, to sum up: 1. We know that Ruby carried with him the phone number of a "Nick Turman," 2. We know that Ruby employed a man named Buddy Turman who had a brother named "Nickie Turman." 3. This Buddy Turman was a perfect match to the physical description of "Nick" provided in 1977 by the then nearly blind Odell Estes. 4. This same Buddy Turman knew and had worked for Jack Ruby for years at the Vegas Club! This connection to Jack Ruby isn't theoretical - it's real and proved beyond any doubt! Dark hair? (You bet.) Big frame? (Without a doubt.) Powerful six-footer? (Duh.) Dark complexion? (Yup.) This picture below of Buddy Turman was from his early twenties. In 1963, when he was working for Jack Ruby at the Vegas Club, Turman turned 30. Did he have a slight mustache/and or a tattoo by then?

Greg, You're right of course that I can't prove that the same 1961 Chevy Impala ridden in by Estes was the same one seen by Bowers, but might I point out that an "off-green color" was probably Chevrolet's "Seafoam Green". Further, since the 1961 Impala seen by Bowers was "muddy up to the windows", might I suggest that a dirty up to the windows Seafoam Green (with white accents, maybe?) might be described as "white" by Lee Bowers at a distance in the Texas noonday sun? The reason I focused on this was because the last Bowers saw of this car, the lone male driver was not only circling the parking lot adjacent to the TSBD just before the assassination, but "Mr. BALL - Then did he leave? Mr. BOWERS - The last I saw of him he was pausing just about in--just above the assassination site." Now, I don't know what Bowers meant by "just above the assassination site". He was looking at a car near the fence on the grassy knoll, not a car hovering in mid-air above the sixth-floor window of the TSBD. But since Joseph Ball asked no clarifying questions of Bowers (i.e., "What do you mean - ' just above the assassination site'?"), we can only guess at Bowers cryptic statement. In any event, what about this one? Estes said that the second time that he and Lee Oswald went to Possum Kingdom Lake, they drove in the waitress/go-go dancer's "1963 Galaxie Ford with Texas plates." Now according to W.P. Gannaway's helpful report (which you linked earlier - good work!), Barbara Bonnie Gene Jean Louise Hethcoat Kelly Kellough did not have a spare penny to her name as of late November 1963. [Intelligence Report - Bonnie Louise Kellough, January 23, 1964] - Page 1 of 2 - The Portal to Texas History (unt.edu) So how did Ms. Cutie Pie get herself a brand-new Ford Galaxie to use? Hmm. By an amazing coincidence, Jack Ruby's club at which our girl worked in 1963 was regularly frequented by several/many/dozens/hundreds of different officers, both on and off duty, of the Dallas Police Department! Who knew? And the Dallas Police Department's official vehicles for both marked and unmarked patrol cars were . . . 1963 Ford Galaxies. JFK Files: Replica 1963 Dallas police squad car to honor officer slain by Lee Harvey Oswald One can only ponder the vast mystery of how an attractive 23-year-old woman, working in various capacities at a strip joint, might have had access to vehicle the exact same make and model year as the very cops she served at Ruby's place every night . . . Such a riddle . . .

Greg, You and I agree on a number of key points: 1. The Lee Oswald in Ruby's club in the summer of 1963 who interacted with Odell Estes several times over several weeks, was NOT the "Oswald" who was shot to death by Jack Ruby on 11/24/63. Whoever Estes knew that summer, that person was absolutely NOTthe accused assassin. That man, the accused assassin, was indeed in New Orleans during the summer of 1963. We agree on that. 2. A number of Dallas witnesses saw Jack Ruby in late October and early November with a man who somewhat resembled the accused assassin. You and I agree that this second man was probably Larry Crafard who bore a general (but far from identical) resemblance to "Oswald." 3. You and I agree that the possibility that Crafard was somehow deliberately impersonating "Oswald" by using his name during the summer of 1963 at Ruby's club is not viable. But I think you've made too much of a few things: Estes didn't call her "Barbara" - he knew her by her nickname "Bobby". The FBI transcribed her name as "Barbara Gene Kelly", per Estes. Greg, there is no way that any self-respecting Southern girl would spell her middle name as "Gene" instead of "Jean". (You have already implicitly admitted that when you spelled it as "Jean", not "Gene".) Surely the "Gene" and not "Jean" is a mistake by the FBI men who were writing down what Estes told them in 1977. (Estes could not write anything at that point!) Did Estes have an accent which the FBI tended to garble? I believe so - note their "Carrsal Club". They knew perfectly well that the club was the "Carousel Club", but they were phonetically transcribing what Estes said. So, did Estes say "Bobby" or "Bonnie"? I don't know, and since the waitress/go-go dancer herself had a southern accent, her name conceivably could have been blurred either way when she and Estes were conversing. My point is that the name thing is pretty thin gruel to dismiss Estes' adamant belief that the man he met (who sure looked like Lee Oswald) used the name "Lee Oswald." Estes affirmed to the FBI that "Chuck" also used the name "Mr. Oswald" when referring to this man. You say it's impossible that anyone was using the name "Lee Oswald" that summer. I strongly disagree, and there has been a whole body of research going back decades to support that likelihood that the name "Lee Harvey Oswald" was being used by multiple people for years before the assassination. While that is a separate thread, it cannot be dismissed as a possibility. You are too smart and too careful to rule that out. (BTW, did you see my point about Estes' comment on the 1961 Chevy Impala?)

Jim, Can you post that diary entry from Willens? That is really fascinating. FWIW, as I mentioned earlier, Gerald Ford once stated in an interview (which I cannot now find) that the September 18, 1964, stenographer charade was done with the express approval/authority of Earl Warren. Ford himself denied any knowledge or responsibility for the deception.

All well and good, Greg, except, as you know, Estes said that Lee Oswald introduced himself by name to Estes as "Lee Oswald." Furthermore, Estes said that "Chuck" also used the name "Mr. Oswald." In his interview with the FBI, his affirmation "He did use the name 'Mr. Oswald' ", is clearly in response to a specific question from the FBI. (FBI: "Are you sure Chuck used the name "Mr. Oswald"? Estes: "He did use the name 'Mr. Oswald.'") There is no other way to interpret that. Whoever was in Ruby's club that summer, he was using the "Oswald" name. This was NOT a case of misremembering the name by Estes. Estes believed to his dying day that he had met someone who not only resembled but called himself "Lee Oswald." And since the comings and goings in the Carousel Club in June, July and August of 1963 had nothing to do with the upcoming assassination of JFK (the Texas trip had not yet been fully planned, let alone announced), and since there is exactly zero evidence that Crafard and Ruby had met before October of 1963, this "Lee Oswald" was . . . who exactly?

To summarize Greg's topic so far: It seems as if judgments about the credibility of Estes' story hang on whether John Connally actually was present for some sort of clandestine meeting in Ruby's club. I can't resolve that specific issue for sure one way or another yet, but we'll see. Meanwhile, here is one more bit in favor of Estes: Estes claimed that he and Lee Oswald drove to Possum Kingdom Lake in a "1961 Chevy Impala . . ." which belonged to an unknown party. Estes said that he never saw that vehicle again. Yet a 1961 Chevy Impala is one of the most suspect vehicles in JFK lore! From Lee Bowers testimony about what he saw behind the grassy knoll just as shots rang out, his description of a suspicious vehicle in the parking lot: a 1961 Chevy Impala: Warren Commission Hearings, Volume VI (maryferrell.org)

Michael, I did not mean to imply that Connally's pardon of Candy Barr in 1967 had anything to do with a presumed 1963 meeting in Ruby's club, merely that Connally was indeed very familiar with the types of people who frequented clubs such as Ruby's. But for more on Connally: The Truth About John Connally – Texas Monthly

Greg, I wasn't trying to imply that his 1967 pardon of Candy Barr had anything to do with a presumed meeting in Ruby's club in 1963, merely that John Connally was indeed "familiar" with the types of people who hung around in clubs like Ruby's. My objection was to Michael Griffin's view that John Connally was a "boy scout". This profile of John Connally from Texas Monthly should dispense with that notion: "Connally became Johnson’s most trusted political operative. When the Lower Colorado River Authority, which supplied electric power for most of LBJ’s district, found its expansion threatened by private utilities, Lyndon saw that Connally was appointed to the LCRA board back in Austin. Later, Connally returned to Washington in 1949 as the top aide to newly elected Senator Johnson. They were a superb team—Johnson the compromiser, Connally the tough guy. When dirty work had to be done, Connally drew the assignment, as when he suggested at the 1960 Democratic National Convention that Jack Kennedy had a fatal disease and shouldn’t be nominated. Working for Johnson was a great education, but it had one flaw: Connally’s role as hatchet man was one-dimensional. He didn’t have to face the voters; he knew none of the restraints of holding political office and wanting to keep it." The Truth About John Connally – Texas Monthly

Of more interest to me is who hired the fake stenographer to sit in on the September 18, 1964 to (seemingly) take down a verbatim transcript. The only logical purpose for that person's presence was to fool Richard Russell into thinking that this session was identical to all of the other executive sessions for the Warren Commission. At that September 18, 1964, executive session of the Warren Commission, Richard Russell believed that his doubts about the shots were being transcribed into the permanent record. They were not. Instead, Russell's doubts (as we all can hear in the phone call he made to LBJ in the link I provided earlier) were erased from the official records of the Warren Commission. Russell had no idea that his dissent was suppressed. The only record of the September 18 meeting was a "structured account of general business being conducted by the Commission", not a verbatim transcript, according to the Archivist of the United States, James B. Rhodes. When Harold Weisberg showed Russell in 1968 that Russell's dissent no longer existed, Russell was outraged. So, who hired the fake stenographer? The author of this paper, Dani Biancoli, speculates that it was J. Lee Rankin. Biancoli is undoubtedly correct, as far as the hiring goes. (See pages 62-65.) The First Dissenter: Richard B Russell and the Warren Commission (wm.edu) But the real question is "Who told Rankin to do this?" I saw an interview (which at the moment I cannot find on the internet) with Gerald Ford in which he claimed that was Earl Warren's doing. Ford might have been correct, or he may have been covering up for McCloy and Dulles. Or maybe they did it with Warren's approval. I just don't know which version is correct.

Somehow my response was shortened, but the important thing is that John McCloy worked out the infamous weasel words of page 19 of the Warren Report, as I quoted above. Kai Bird, McCloy's biographer, wrote precisely that on page 565 of his "The Chairman: John J McCloy The Making of the American Establishment"

ding found on page 19 of the Warren Report: ("Although it is not necessary to any essential findings of the Commission to determine just which shot hit Governor Connally, there is very persuasive evidence from the experts to indicate that the same bullet which pierced the President's throat also caused Governor Connally's wounds. However, Governor Connally's testimony and certain other factors have given rise to some difference of opinion as to this probability but there is no question in the mind of any member of the Commission that all the shots which caused the President's and Governor Connally's wounds were fired from the sixth-floor window of the Texas School Book Depository.") Bird's biography makes it very clear that McCloy worked out the disputed language. See page 565: The chairman : John J. McCloy, the making of the American establishment : Bird, Kai : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Jim, As you probably know, Russell told LBJ that after "fighting over that damn report", he rejected the single bullet theory ("Well, I don't believe it.") Remarkably, President Lyndon Johnson immediately agreed with him ("I don't either.") And it's all on tape. From this recorded phone call on September 18, 1964, we can hear two of the most powerful men in America dismiss the single most important conclusion of the Warren Report. Russell's most pertinent criticism begins around the 1:20 mark of this tape: President Johnson Phone Call on the Warren Commission | C-SPAN.org

Thanks, Greg. I realize that we can't say for sure whether the lawman accompanying John Connally to the Carousel Club was Jim Leavelle, but I think it's quite likely, apart from the near certain identification by Odell Estes. Why? Because Jim Leavelle himself freely admitted to knowing Jack Ruby as part of his official DPD duties since 1948. Leavelle's job for years was to verify that club's like Ruby's were not violating any of the Dallas ordinances on the conduct of the dancers, patrons, wait staff, etc. From a conversation with Jim Leavelle: Detective Leavelle Knew Why Jack Ruby Killed Lee Harvey Oswald Because Ruby Told Him – Re-Elect Brandon Birmingham for Judge (judgebirmingham.com) "At the beginning of his career, Leavelle was tasked with making sure the nightclubs followed the rules – closed when they were supposed to and stopped serving booze at certain times, among other things. Ruby’s clubs were on Leavelle’s beat. As such, Leavelle and Ruby knew each other for nearly 15 years before Ruby made that fateful walk down the ramp into the basement of the Dallas Police Headquarters and into history. I asked him what he thought of Ruby: “He was always honest with me. He never caused any trouble. He was sometimes hot-headed and picked on the drunks he knew he could whoop. But he never lied to me, and always followed the rules.” Again, while we can't be certain who Estes saw, he believed it was Jim Leavelle. Leavelle absolutely had been a regular official presence in Ruby's club for many years. Estes was almost certainly right.

Odell Estes claimed that "Chuck" gave him the keys to a white 1963 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (which Estes believed belonged to "Mr. Ruby") and instructed him to drive Lee Oswald to Love Field airport. Hmm. Jack Ruby did not own a late model Cadillac Coupe de Ville. But Ruby's silent partner and business associate, Ralph Paul, a man who lent Ruby untold sums of money, certainly did own exactly that vehicle! From the Warren Commission Volume XXI: Warren Commission, Volume XXI: Paul Ex 5319 - Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Ralph Paul, dated November 25, 1963. (history-matters.com) Odell Estes knew the right make, year and model of the car at Jack Ruby's! Estes was NOT lying!

Candy Barr (who knew, but did not work directly for Jack Ruby) was pardoned by John Connally in 1967 for her 1957 marijuana possession conviction for reasons unknown to her, "unless he had read her record and realized she had been framed." Candy Barr - Biography - IMDb Uh huh. I'm sure that was the reason . . . Ms. Barr's resume:

Greg, I'd like to read your theory as to why Crafard (presumably acting on Ruby's behalf) would have shot J.D. Tippit.

Mervyn, Do you have any idea who "Armando Fleites, Miami, secretary general of the Second Front of Escambray" was? I never heard of him, but apparently, he got his info about a late 1963 invasion of Cuba from somebody in Washington. Where else could he have received a high-level assurance that such an invasion was imminent? The source for "Armando Fleites" may well have been a conduit for the assassination sponsors.

Hmm. Greg, your theory should not be dismissed out of hand as impossible by anyone, and you are to be commended for your creativity (I assume it is your theory, right?) Mrs. Charlie Virginia Davis's testimony is a doozy: she couldn't get the timeline straight at all. Belin finally got what he wanted her to say: Barbara called the police AFTER they had seen the gunman cross the yard. But man! It took forever to get to that point. Honestly, I believe Belin was smart enough to quit her testimony immediately after he got her to that point. If he kept at it, she'd have changed her timeline again! (And he gave up trying to reconcile what she said in her two affidavits . . .) I too have long wondered how Virginia Davis's phone number would up in Ruby's notebook. You refer to it as "Ruby/Crafard notebook" which implies that it had entries in it from Larry Crafard, right? I have always wondered, like many people, if Dallas strip club owner Jack Ruby had the phone number for 16-year-old, childless, (bored, stay-at-home housewife dreaming of extra money?) Virginia Davis because she, or someone acting on her behalf, had given it to him for reasons at which (I presume) the readership here is worldly enough to guess. But you have come up with a creative "innocent" alternative, and of course, none of us can know now what the truth was. You might be right, but I have a couple of questions: If Courson did spend any time at all in Virginia Davis's apartment (for whatever reasons), why would he use that phone number as a way for Ruby to contact him? Your theory implies that Ruby needed to be able to get ahold of Courson at a moment's notice, and surely Courson couldn't have been there (theoretically) that often, right? I mean, Barbara Davis's husband, Troy Lee Davis, did live there with Barbara and their two kids! He was there that afternoon to take Virginia and Barbara down to the lineups at the police station late that afternoon. Troy Lee Davis wasn't off somewhere else on November 22- he was a local roofer right there in Oak Cliff. (Further, roofing is a daytime, not a nighttime business.) Courson's contact with Ruby was presumably due to "official" police business. Ruby surely could contact Courson anytime through the Dallas Sheriff's Department and they could get ahold of Courson very quickly. But Courson was absolutely "off duty" if he was whiling away the hours with Barbara Davis in Virginia Davis's apartment. If Ruby tried to reach Courson at Virginia Davis's apartment, there was a very real chance that her husband, Mr. Charles Davis (the brother of Troy Lee Davis) would answer the phone! And that would be a complete disaster for both Courson and Barbara Davis, and very likely a disaster for Virginia Davis. So, clever as your theory is, that part simply doesn't work for me. We do agree that the name "Leona Miller" was a cover next to Virginia Davis's phone number. But for now, I think the simpler explanation is more likely. "Leona Miller" was the name Ruby assigned to cover the number from the person who gave him that number: Virginia Davis herself.

Greg, All of this is window dressing: the real issues are "Was there a second law enforcement officer in the very near vicinity at the time of Tippit's murder? If so, who was he and why was he there? How did he get there? How did he leave? Was his presence connected in any way to Tippit's murder?" And: "Did Doris Holan (no matter how much Brownlow and Pulte garbled her story) actually see a cop car in the alley?" The fact that a Dallas official confirmed to Dale Myers himself that an officer really was there at that moment is deeply troubling. While it's conceivable that there is an "innocent" explanation, in this case, we should not accept that on its own. A never-identified officer right there, apparently. A cop car in the alley, apparently. A cover-up, according to the Dallas official. These are very concerning issues and cannot be downplayed.

Thanks, Larry. I just read "The Amlash Legacy" in full thanks to Mervyn's Weisberg Archives link. So DAP wrote a fantasy in which the CIA are the good guys, and (surprise) the "Oswald" character is the assassin, and the KGB tried to pin it on the (completely innocent of the assassination) CIA. Uh-huh. David Atlee Phillips may not have been in on the assassination, but he knew enough about out "Oswald" to know that guy couldn't have shot anyone, ever, let alone the president. His manuscript/outline is just another worthless apology for/paean to the CIA.

Below is the correct link to the Dan Hardway deposition which I quoted here: "On October 1 the Mexico City station sent "bulk materials" to Headquarters by an untraceable transmittal manifest in a diplomatic pouch "to be held in registry until picked up by Michael C. Choaden presently TDY HQS." ("Michael C. Choaden" was an alias used by the CIA's David. A. Phillips. Phillips, of course, was the godfather of the DRE, having founded it in Havana in the late 1950's. By the fall of 1963, Phillips was the chief of anti-Castro operations in Mexico City - the Cuba desk.) Doc.-156-1.-Dan-L.-Hardway-Declaration.pdf (aarclibrary.org)

Larry, Is the DAP manuscript of his "fictional" story connecting our "Oswald" to a CIA operation available anywhere? Also, can you give us more details about the relationship between Phillips and Morales? When and where did DAP call Morales a "badass dirty actions operator"? (That's really interesting and provocative.) I agree that the DAP deathbed "confession" is so ambiguous as to be useless. Of course, DAP knew all about the "Oswald in Mexico City" legend, but how much DAP knew about what happened in Dallas on 11/22/63 is the real question. And so far, that's unanswerable.

Gerry, Good questions. (I hope to have an answer soon as to why the current version of the Lopez Report has no Cuban Compound map. If I get an answer, I will let you know promptly.) Meanwhile, those two houses you identified do look as if they could have been there in 1963. And if so, then they presumably were a part of the Cuban Compound. The CIA was testing a pulse camera aimed at the Cuban Consulate on Friday, September 27 and (apparently, according to its own words) "(The base agent) used the K-100 with the 150 mm lens for one day, turning in ten fee (sic) of 16 mm film . . . " Oswald, the CIA, and Mexico City ("Lopez Report") - II. CIA Surveillance Operations (history-matters.com) "On October 1 the Mexico City station sent "bulk materials" to Headquarters by an untraceable transmittal manifest in a diplomatic pouch "to be held in registry until picked up by Michael C. Choaden presently TDY HQS." ("Michael C. Choaden" was an alias used by the CIA's David. A. Phillips. Phillips, of course, was the godfather of the DRE, having founded it in Havana in the late 1950's. By the fall of 1963, Phillips was the chief of anti-Castro operations in Mexico City - the Cuba desk.) https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/lopezrpt/pdf/LopezRpt_2_CIA_Surveil.pdf So swore Dan Hardway. But what's fascinating is Hardway's belief that the mysterious "bulk package" contained . . . the now missing (and infamous) ten feet of footage of the CIA's coverage of the Cuban Compound on September 27, the very day that our "Oswald" allegedly visited the Cuban Consulate! (See this clip of Hardway from the 27 minute mark): https://www.c-span.org/video/?321703-2/oswald-cia-mexico-city Might that ten feet of 16 mm film have revealed that the CIA had a second, undisclosed observation post? Maybe. Could it have revealed that our Dallas "Oswald" was impersonated at the Cuban Consulate? Absolutely. That's why I doubt it will ever see the light of day (if it still exists.)

Hmm. For some reason, the link changed. https://www.bing.com/maps?q=oak+cliff+texas&FORM=HDRSC7&cp=32.746676~-96.818376&lvl=18.6&pi=-18.3&style=x&dir=73.7