Paul Bacon
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The difference between us is that you start with the premise that the Z film is original and unaltered and I start with the premise that it has been altered, and we both work from our own position.
I've been studying the issues around the Z film for decades, with my own eyes, my own instincts, my own intelligence and and my own reason. Whenever someone posits something peculiar about the Z film, I apply my own tests. I am not automatically swayed. And I don't need to convince anyone.
As of now, there is no definitive proof either way. And no one, of any serious nature, is claiming they have proof. What many are doing, is speculating. I applaud the speculation because it often reveals previously unknown data. This is a work in progress.
You seem to take the position that anyone who feels the Z film has been altered are nut jobs. They are not. Most are intelligent, reasoned, and open minded, seeking to find the truth. Your demand that people provide proof is jumping the gun. We're not there yet.
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54 minutes ago, Jeremy Bojczuk said:
Remember: if you are claiming that the film was deliberately altered, it's up to you to prove it.
I don't think anyone in this thread disputes that Jeremy.
What this spitballing is doing is trying to rectify what the Z film shows with eyewitness testimony and Parkland observations. Once a potential alteration idea is formed, then it gets subject to all the tests you're talking about.
You're jumping the gun.
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1 hour ago, Chris Bristow said:
But the motion blur in the film is consistent with 18 fps.
I understand. Thank you.
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This is fascinating Chris. Do you think, using the method you've described, it would have been an easier thing to pull off if the Z film was being taken at 48 fps?
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3 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:
Does Biden's clever hand include Mariupol being turned into rubble? Tens of thousands of civilian deaths? Allowing Putin to dictate terms of war?
Of course not Ben. What has happened, as you know, no one predicted.
This is a "one day at a time" predicament for everyone. We have no idea what's going on behind the scenes, but I don't believe Biden has dictated a policy from which we will never veer. This is in flux and a delicate balance. I'm not the only one who thinks Biden has played a bad hand very well.
3 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:Putin may be caught in a bear trap of his own making. But the world is not a chessboard.
Those maps we see on TV are millions of people.
Let Poland lead.
I too have felt the anger and dispear at the carnage that has happened. Now imagine the carnage if this becomes NATO v. Russia. Those maps we see would become tens of millions.
The Russian people already think Ukraine, backed by the US, has attacked Russia. How would they act when they felt attacked by the whole of NATO?
Again, this is a delicate balancing act.
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2 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:
Could it be that Biden hasn't revealed the hand he's been playing?
I've been thinking that same thing for a while now.
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16 hours ago, John Butler said:
I can't believe what I am reading. Setting aside the insults. Jeremy just has to be kidding. This is the .....
I don't even think he is color blind. So, a question or two to find out. What color clothing was the BB Lady wearing? She had a tan raincoat and a head scarf. What color clothing did the woman in the Zapruder film have? She had on a short sleeve, dark blue dress. Her hair was blond and held by a black head band. She did not have a head scarf. Here is a Bond photo showing the BB Lady and a Zapruder frame showing the Lady in Blue. They are different people.
I wonder if Jeremy believes if he just throws up something in opposition that people will take that seriously.
I will say it once more. The Zapruder film does not contain an image of the Babushka Lady. It has an image of a woman in a blue dress who I believe is Tammi True and an associate of Jack Ruby.
Charles and Joe Brehm and the "babushka lady" are uphill of Jean and Mary in the Z film. They are downhill of Jean and Mary in the Bond photo. What's the likelyhood that total strangers would move together to a downhill position in a few seconds?
Unless I'm missing something, the photos show two different groups of people. Ergo, the lady in blue is not the lady in tan.
Someone correct me, please.
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Thanks Jim. So, if he wasn't running the show in Dallas, he was most probably running the show at Bethesda. I've just been curious about all the tweeks and adjustments that were made in Dallas after JFK was killed--mostly having to do with the Tippet case, but DPD actions as well.
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5 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:
I agree Al.
1. LeMay misrepresented where he was that day.
2. He would not reply to his aide de camp, Dorman, as he was coming in to Washington.
3. And he broke orders and flew into National instead of Andrews.
Why, why and why?
Concerning the second, if you recall, this was cut out of the original AF 1 tape.
Concerning the last, I can think of two reasons. There would be no cameras at National since the media was all at Andrews, and as John Newman pointed out to me, its closer to Bethesda.
This may be a dumb question, but do you think he was in Dallas? Was he actually running the operation from wherever he was? Is this what the big mystery of where LeMay was, is all about?
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11 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:
In contrast, you have a cognitive tendency to formulate theories that ignore the data.
Nice! I'm going to try this line on my wife...
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But her back, from her rear end to the top of her head, is much flatter in the Nix frame than the Z frame. Is this an illusion too?
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2 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:
Yeah, I like the no-fly zone. Might save lives. We are being very brave with Ukrainian lives. Advising them to fight.
There's no need to "advise" Ukrainians to fight. The US is as suprised as everybody else at the Ukrainian will to fight. In my opinion the peace that may eventually come from non-escalation is far, far greater than anything that would be possible with direct confrontation. Either way, it comes with a very high cost.
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On 3/5/2022 at 12:34 PM, James DiEugenio said:
Those kinds of financial records were supposed to be held in camera by the Board.
Only for internal use, not for the public at large.
Got it. Thank you!
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Very interesting! Does Doug Horne's fear of arrest mean he has knowledge of still classified information? Why would he be arrested?
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1 hour ago, Roy Wieselquist said:
But here's an explanation: the left temple bullet went in and out so cleanly that it imparted little force to the large mass of the head. JFK was hit almost simultaneously with a FRANGIBLE from the right front, the North Knoll, which imparted a lot of force to the head.
I completely agree with this and have thought so for a couple of years. I believe Mantik and Horne do too.
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15 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:
Thanks for the link WN.
Just viewed it.
The most powerful symptoms for me are the body weakness ( just incredible) pronounced body flu pain everywhere, nausea and stomach pain, pain behind eyes and in the temples and lesser ones of chills and sweats.
Just laying here in bed I feel weak.
Still feel all this 46 hours after the shot!
Getting this 12 hours after this latest booster shot is what confounds me.
Did the booster shot cause this? Or did I pick up the variant just before the shot?
Take care all.
Joe,
I got the booster (moderna) at the begining of December. Four days later I started feeling poorly and I left work--that was a Friday. Over the weekend I looked for a Covid test because I began to have suspicions--none were available. Monday I noticed I didn't have the sense of taste or smell, so I called my doctor and was immediately scheduled for a PCR test at the local hospital. Four hours later, I was told that I was positive for Covid. I ended up thinking I may have contracted it when I went for my booster--how ironic!!
So, yes, it's quite possible that you've contracted Covid. Do get a test! Your symptoms sound like the disease and not a side effect.
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2 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:
Let me marinate in my own juices for a while.
Very well. :>)
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10 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:
Sans partisan posturing, what is your take on prospects for a new American Civil War?
Don't forget to take into account the great possibility that this coming mid-term will see a republican sweep of congress. Imagine what will happen in the U.S. And then see how likely civil war may be.
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9 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:
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I wave the white flag!
Very good Ben. Progress. The first step is usually surrender.
Now, over the course of the next few months or year, look at some of the stuff William posted and consider it.
In due time, you'll find "something fishy" and you'll smell a rat.
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10 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:
Paul B-
Thanks for your comment.
I guess the "money shot" of the above study is this:
"Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material."
OK, I am a layman, so I have to look up "thermite":
"Thermite is a pyrotechnic composition of metal powder and metal oxide. When ignited by heat or chemical reaction, thermite undergoes an exothermic reduction-oxidation reaction. Most varieties are not explosive, but can create brief bursts of heat and high temperature in a small area.--Wikipedia
I have to say, spraying enough thermite to down the WTC towers still strikes me as Mission Impossible. You mean thermite was sprayed around key locations of two separate 100+story towers, and one lesser tower, and no one noticed?
In general, I prefer conspiracies with fewer, rather than larger, number of co-conspirators. For example, my take on the JFKA was that it was a very small operation, in terms of witting pre-event participants.
However, I am keeping an open mind, and if others have different views than me on 9/11, that is fine. Regrettable though it may be, I am not omniscient.
Two quick points Ben.
1. Thermite is used to bring buildings down all the time. In this case, it was nanothermite, 10 times more explosive.
2. The presence of thermite at all, in all the samples, is very "suspicious".
Put this together with other evidence, like 135 FDNY members' testimony about explosions, molten steel pooling for days in what used to be the foundation, and NIST's failure to look at all the evidence, and you have a mounting narrative. Just like in the Kennedy case...
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On 1/7/2022 at 11:41 PM, Benjamin Cole said:
As to the 9/11 event itself, I do not see how federal provocateurs could have wired up three different large skyscrapers with explosives, without anyone catching on.
Do some reading Ben. You can start with this: https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf.
The stuff can be sprayed or painted on. If I had more time, I'd find a link to information about all the contracting work being done in the Towers in the many weeks prior to the incineration.
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5 hours ago, Matt Allison said:
A new Civil War in the U.S. would not look like the one seen in the 1860s; there's no appetite for that in America, no matter what crazy stuff you might read on the internet. It would be more terror-based, similar to "The Troubles" that England and the IRA went through in the 70s and 80s. More akin to the gang warfare seen in rough city neighborhoods, and the blood spilled between warring Mafia families back when that was still a thing.
You're not alone Matt. I saw a researcher make that very same point yesterday on MSNBC. It makes complete sense to me.
It was a bit of a relief to me because it meant that I wasn't going to have to leave my trailer, go out into the cold dressed in rags, carrying only a musket and a long knife, eating dried berries from dormant bushes. I live in a trailer park where there are loads of Trumpers, but most of them are my age and so--harmless.
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Thanks for posting this Doug. Jefferson Morley is a terrific writer. Counterpunch needs some proofreaders :>).
Zapruder Film Alteration Synopsis
in JFK Assassination Debate
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A minor correction: the original film was intercepted in Chicago and taken directly to NPIC. It was after that Saturday night episode, after everyone saw what was in the film, that it was then taken to Hawkeye Works and subsequently brought back to NPIC on Sunday night in an altered form.