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  1. Indeed, for a show car this blemish would not be tolerated. It seems that the limo was also in Ireland in June 1963 as per this blog post from @Vince Palamara: http://jfkbubbletop.blogspot.com/2016/10/excellent-security-for-jfk-june-1963.html I did notice that some photos have a licence plate "GX 200" rather than "GG 300": The limo in Berlin 1963 used "GG 300", the same as on November 22: https://www.fu-berlin.de/en/sites/kennedy/index.html
  2. Greer seems to be a very reliable witness. His early statements and Warren Commission testimony perfectly match what we see in the Zapruder film. Indeed, the debunking of the Geis statement is important as it forces the dent to be caused by either the Z313 head shot or a separate bullet entirely (presumably fired after Z313 as I see nothing in the Z-film before that time to suggest Greer or Kellerman are distracted by such a conspicuous event).
  3. I assume it's a bullet hole too. There wasn't a hole in the chrome topping in June 1963 as proven by this photo: http://www.apimages.com/metadata/Index/John-F-Kennedy-in-Hesse-1963/8d1e7c9e1a7440d0b243f773d3ba83b9/1087/0 Here is the Warren Commission photo: https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/pdf/WH16_CE_349.pdf Whether the hole came from a whole bullet or from the shrapnel from the head shot, I'm not sure.
  4. I've just published version 2.2 of Motorcade 63, the reference handbook, and the witness survey (which now lists over 400 witnesses): https://www.marktyler.org/mc63.html https://www.marktyler.org/mc63/mc63_handbook.pdf https://www.marktyler.org/mc63/mc63_dpws.csv I added Virgie Baker to the animation as she gave evidence regarding the first shot hitting the road (corroborated by Royce Skelton). The animation proves this could only have occurred during Z175-Z215 as the cars blocked her view of the bullet impact zone outside those two seconds (full details are in the handboo
  5. For the work that I have done I always favour the earlier statements, but if more details are given later such as in 1964 then I accept those details as long as they aren't contradicted elsewhere by stronger evidence. When evaluating evidence I'm always looking for things that witnesses say that can nail down exactly the time when shots were fired. For example Mary Moorman said that the first shot she heard was exactly at the time she took her photo at Z315. This means she must have missed the earlier shots and so gives us useful information about how easy it is for witnesses to miss
  6. The numbers seem to come from different witness interviews. For example (4), (A), (1) were used to help locate the policemen on the corner of Elm/Houston: Joe Marshall Smith, Edgar Smith, and Welcome Barnett. (5) is where JM Smith said he ran soon after the shooting: https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh7/pdf/WH7_JoeSmith.pdf (7) is referenced in the Edgar Smith interview (he said the shots came from the concrete structure to the north, i.e. the pergola): https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh7/pdf/WH7_EdgarSmith.pdf (1) is referen
  7. Baker gave a clearer account of how far the car had passed her position in her 1964 interview: Mr. LIEBELER. Can you tell me approximately how far down the street it had gone when you heard the first shot? Mrs. BAKER. I don’t know exactly---I could still see the back of the car---I can’t judge distance so I really couldn’t tell you. Mr. LIEBELER. It hadn’t gone out of sight in your opinion? Mrs. BAKER. No, sir. Mr. LIEBELER. Could you still see the President? Mrs. BAKER. Not too well. Mr. LIEBELER. There is a gradual curve on Elm Street and the car had already started slightl
  8. This statement from Skelton is correct but somewhat vague in detail. Helpfully he gave more info when he was interviewed by the FBI a few weeks later: "Mr. Skelton noticed that as an open limousine turned on Elm Street, it had moved approximately one hundred feet at which time he noticed dust spray up from the street in front of the car on the driver’s side. This dust spray came from the direction of the Texas School Book Depository building." https://www.history-matters.com/analysis/witness/witnessMap/documents/wcd/wcd_0087a.gif What I find fascinating about this statement is
  9. I've become quite interested in the witness statements from Royce Skelton and Virgie Baker. They both remarked that something bounced off the road to the south of the Presidential limo at the time of the first shot. Of particular interest is Baker whose position can be known fairly accurately thanks to her being in the Wiegman, Bell, and Towner films. Several people have already identified her position here, which I agree with: Baker identified the bullet impact area in her Warren Commission testimony at (2) on this map: https://www.history-matters.com/archiv
  10. I think touring through the photos helps follow the two teenagers in the post assassination chaos. At the beginning these two are in the Bronson photo (one with a light blue shirt showing): After the shooting they retreat to the pergola shelter as shown in the Bothun photo: Then Grant captures them head on, showing one with a light shirt exposed and the other zipped up (matching the Bronson photo, but sadly in black and white so we don't see the blue of the shirt): Notice the white markings on the shoulders. The first two Cabluck photos show the boys running acr
  11. Hopefully a new 3D model will explore the angle of fire from all gunman locations (buildings from behind high or low, knoll, etc) and by doing so will not cherry pick a favoured scenario. That way the strengths and weaknesses of all theories can be assessed relative to the physical evidence. The other problem with past 3D animations is that their data was never published for peer review so we had to just assume they had created an accurate model. Although these old 3D models always made nice TV presentations, the accuracy could not be verified independently.
  12. Assessing witness reliability and quality is a very important question and worthy of an explanation. In the case of this witness survey it is a very specific set of criteria relating to witness statements that have been made public. The best quality witnesses tick these boxes: Gave statements in 1963 or 1964. Gave enough information to measure the timing of the first shot heard. Gave enough information to measure the timing of the last shot heard. The statements were clear and unambiguous. For example if someone didn't put a statement onto the record until an inte
  13. The angle of trajectory for the head shot is tricky to judge due to the slightly leftward direction of JFK's head at frame Z312: However, I do agree with you that a shot entering the rear centre of the skull would indeed exit the right side in this scenario (especially if it was fired from a different angle such as the Dal-Tex building). This is also consistent with what you seen in the Zapruder frames Z314-Z320, and also the autopsy photos. It's also the reason that I don't think this shot came from the right hand side on the grassy knoll as the head damage was entirely on the
  14. In terms of the assassination narrative it's very hard to say. I don't feel a late shot helps or hinders any particular theory (conspiracy or lone gunman). My real goal with this work is to separate the wheat from the chaff, i.e. establish where the real evidence lies and where the red herrings are. Maybe in a year or two when I have completely finished studying the evidence I may come off the fence, but at the moment there are still unresolved areas that could affect my thinking (e.g. the single bullet theory which which may help us locate the position of the assassin somewhere other than
  15. So this concludes my tour of statements from the Camera Car #3 witnesses. As with all witnesses in Dealey Plaza they disagree on one or two details (e.g. the spacing of the shots), but they mostly corroborate each other in terms of the timing of the last shot. They also seem to corroborate the statements from other witnesses who are certain there was at least one shot well after the head shot (Brehm, Moorman, Hill, Hudson, Dishong, Bowers, etc). The final proof that Z313 can't be time of the final shot is to look at the position of Camera Car #3 at that point and look through the eyes o
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