Steve Roe

10 hours ago, Greg Doudna said:

And think Steve--what is there not to like about this identification? It does not go either way on adding or detracting from whether Oswald killed Kennedy in any direct way. I don't know fully what it means myself, only that the facts call for it. Why not consider the Nov 11 idea? Anyway thanks for your comments.

Running short of time today, Greg. First of all, I acknowledge your weather data. I use a different one but it's pretty much the same. I don't dispute that. 

I'm more interested in what is verifiable, as the true facts of the case. As I see it, this Furniture Mart sighting doesn't square up with the facts, even though it could be construed as pointing to Oswald's guilt. 

When I get more time, I'll look further into this. In the meantime, if you take a look at Commission Exhibit #2976, the FBI interviewed Mrs. Dominey (Gertrude Hunter's friend in Houston). It's not very flattering and points to credibility issues with Mrs. Hunter. As I stated earlier in a post, Mrs. Hunter came up with another wild story of seeing Marina at a gas station in the Hunter/Whitworth/Marina testimony. Warren Commission Hearings, Volume XXVI (maryferrell.org)

On 3/15/2024 at 9:02 AM, Greg Doudna said:

But the date cannot have been a weekday prior to Fri Nov 8 if it was Lee and Marina because (a) Lee was at work at the TSBD in Dallas those days; and (b) Marina's whereabouts were known to Ruth Paine at all times those days because she was living with Ruth, and Ruth Paine said Lee and Marina never drove any car to a furniture store to her knowledge. 

Greg, you cannot bend testimony to fit your theory. Mrs. Whitworth was extremely specific about the date, as well as Mrs. Hunter. She most certainly said it occurred before the Richland Hills vs. Irving football game. Whitworth, Edith - 7/22/64 (maryferrell.org)

Mrs. Hunter said in her testimony that she didn't leave her house before 2:00 PM because she talked to her daughter before she got back off her lunch break at Commercial Title. That doesn't jive either. Warren Commission Hearings, Volume XI (maryferrell.org)

If it was November 11th, don't you think both Whitworth and Hunter would have said Veterans Day???? Everyone knows it was a long holiday weekend, yet both these women made no mention of that at all. Yes, most retail outlets were open on Veterans Day. 

Sorry Greg, not buying it. 

4 hours ago, Greg Doudna said:

In checking on Google Images for 1955 Oldsmobiles it can look like it has fins from a certain angle (from the right front looking back on the right side). The taillights look raised a little. The description of the way the car was parked suggests it was angle parking in front of the store such that that could have been what gave Edith Whitworth that idea.

But let’s back up on a point prior to the question of what blue and white sedan old car the driver was driving. 

Do you accept that was Lee and Marina Oswald? If not, who do you think it was? 

You know the two women identified Marina in a later face to face, and the woman in the store did not talk and was sullen which sounds like Marina. You know the man looked like Oswald according to the two women, and said they were planning a move to an apartment, and that he had just had a baby girl born two weeks earlier, which matches Lee and Marina who had baby Rachel born Oct 20, 1963.

You know this Furniture Mart visit occurred just before a man gave a name of “Oswald” to a gunsmith down the street from where Edith Whitworth directed this man, who wrote down that name “Oswald” on a job ticket, the same man who minutes earlier had been in the Furniture Mart with the new baby girl and was last seen by the two women driving in the direction Mrs. Whitworth told the man to go to find that gunsmith.

You know the man and woman who looked like Lee and Marina and had a new baby also had a 2-3 yr old girl with them which matches Lee and Marina’s 2-yr old June.

You know the FBI tried very hard by checking birth records for a recent birth to find some other family in the area other than Lee and Marina, that could be another possibility for the identification of that family, without success. 

Do you suppose it was a freak-coincidence family matching Lee and Marina, that not even the FBI could identify from area county birth records?

What would be your main reason, if so—not the Warren Commission’s, but your main one—for rejecting that that was Lee and Marina?

The answer to the prior question of whether this was Lee and Marina will affect assessment of the identification of the car driven. 

First of all, I enjoy this discussion and puzzle solving if you will. This story pique my interest because the manager of the Wyatt's Grocery Store in Plymouth Park Center in Irving, (same place Ruth Paine took Oswald for driving lessons), Edward Leon Humberson, was a distant relative of mine (now deceased). Wyatt's Grocery store was a Kroger food chain store, now gone. 

I agree there were similarities, apartment, one baby, one girl child. It looks like a case of mistaken identity to me as I find it hard to believe both of the ladies made the story up, but Mrs. Gertrude Hunter apparently had an over-active imagination.

I have no idea who that couple were, but it could have been anyone. Perhaps the man was getting ready for deer season, which was mid-November in 1963. As I looked through the record, I don't recall either lady mentioning the Oswald name or Lee/Marina while in the Furniture Mart. They were both going on sight only. 

So, was the FBI search on the Baby/Family Oswald name only? I know they did a search of Oswald's in the general area and couldn't find anyone who had been to Irving Sport Shop in the Oswald name.

The reason I reject this sighting of the Oswalds in the Furniture Mart is the inconsistencies put forth. As you know Ruth Paine flatly denied it happened for her own reasons. When the WC got Marina, Mrs. Whitworth and Mrs. Hunter all together (July 24, 1964), here's one inconsistency. The time Mrs. Whitworth said they came into the store, 3:00 to 4:00 in the afternoon. That of course doesn't jive with Ruth Paine returning at 2:00 PM. Warren Commission Hearings, Volume XI (maryferrell.org)

Here's another inconsistency, Mrs. Hunter said she recalled the day was on Wednesday or Thursday right before they discussed getting football tickets. That doesn't jive because November 11, 1963 (when Oswald was at the Paine home) was on a Monday. Warren Commission Hearings, Volume XI (maryferrell.org) And here when Mrs. Hunter testified by herself (after 2:00 PM) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume XI (maryferrell.org)

Now let's discuss a pivotal point here, that football game both ladies mention and attended, Richland Hills (In Fort Worth) and Irving. They were very specific on that football game. That seems like a solid anchor to me on timing. When was that game? It was on November 8, 1963. Both teams were 4A in the same division. Source of that was Fort Worth Telegram, Friday November 8th. I have the clipping mentioning the game to be played that night. Mrs. Whitworth backs up the football game story here: Warren Commission Hearings, Volume XI (maryferrell.org) And she states it here on timing: Warren Commission Hearings, Volume XI (maryferrell.org)

Here's where it gets weird Greg, maybe you can comment on this. Mrs. Hunter declares she saw Marina several times before this Furniture Mart event. See the inconsistency? All of a sudden from recognizing her on TV, she comes up with this story. Warren Commission Hearings, Volume XI (maryferrell.org). Keep scrolling to see this story, just amazing. 

Here's another inconsistency, Mrs. Whitworth claimed "Lee" said they were living in an apartment. Warren Commission Hearings, Volume XI (maryferrell.org) 

Back to your car question, Mrs. Hunter says it was a Ford Warren Commission Hearings, Volume XI (maryferrell.org)

I strongly encourage you and others to read through the testimony of Whitworth, Hunter, Marina, Liebeler (WC), William McKenzie (Marina's lawyer) and Peter Gregory (interpreter for Marina). It all falls apart, like a hard-shell taco in your hand. As much as I would like to pile more evidence on top of Oswald's guilt, I can't buy into this at all. 

There's one way we can get to the bottom of this Greg, I can make some inquires to Ruth Paine what color Michael's 1955 car was. Both ladies were adamant about a white over blue two-tone vehicle. 

On 3/11/2024 at 12:42 PM, Greg Doudna said:

Please I don’t mind criticism of my argument but ask that you read and know what you are criticizing first. 

Valid point Greg. Here's my first observation (there are others). It all boils down to whether Oswald drove Michael Paine's 1955 Oldsmobile sedan to the Furniture Mart. 

As per your article: Mrs. Whitworth, Warren Commission testimony: “I would say it was a blue and white car and I have always said that it was a Ford or Plymouth—it was something with fins on it.” 

In Michael Paine's WC testimony, he was a little wishy-washy on what year that Oldsmobile was (1955 or 1956). As you mentioned in your article, the DPD did observe it as a 1955 Oldsmobile. Let's assume that as fact. 

In your article you mention correctly, Ms. Hunter's account of the vehicle:

“By letter dated August 6, 1964, the President’s Commission advised Mrs. Gertrude Hunter, Irving, Texas, had furnished certain information alleging she had observed Lee Harvey Oswald in Irving, Texas, in November 1963, in an automobile she believed was a 1957 Ford, blue and white in color. Mrs. Hunter expressed the opinion this automobile was similar to an automobile owned by a Houston couple whom she identified as ‘Mr. and Mrs. Dominick’ [sic; Dominey] (…) Mrs. Dominey was questioned regarding the description of all automobiles owned by her family during 1963 (…) the only passenger automobile owned by the family during 1963 was a 1958 model Ford sedan. This automobile was purchased in 1958 and the color was originally turquoise and white.” (FBI, 8/14/64, https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1142#relPageId=492

My point here is that 1955 Oldsmobiles did not have fins as described by Mrs. Whitworth. They in fact had rounded tail ends. 1957 and 1958 Fords did have noticeable tail end fins. You can check me out on that to verify. 

1 hour ago, Greg Doudna said:

Steve R., the screw holes make sense as explained in my Irving Sport Shop paper at www.scrollery.com. I go into that in detail. The job ticket was writeup at intake at the counter with quoted price which is not necessarily what actually was done for which there was no record. The cash went into Ryder’s pocket and there was also no record of that. The anonymous phoned in tip was no hoax, though it is a puzzle who phoned it in. There is no evidence or reason Dial Ryder would or did initiate calls to any reporter over something that got him in a lot of hot water. Please I don’t mind criticism of my argument but ask that you read and know what you are criticizing first. 

My apologies Greg, I only scanned through your document. You indeed address this screw hole issue with this on page 18 of this link:

Irving-Sport-Shop-109-pdf.pdf (scrollery.com)

On 3/9/2024 at 6:32 PM, Greg Doudna said:

What does not make sense? Have you read my two studies (links in the opening post)? Yes, the Oswald job ticket produced by Ryder was a real job ticket, Oswald was there, Ryder repaired and reinstalled the scope base mount and scope on Oswald's rifle

Greg, there's a problem with this. This claim ticket mentions: $4.50 for "drill/tap" new mounting holes ($1.50 per hole Hutson, T. A. (maryferrell.org) ) for the side mounted scope and $1.50 for bore sighting the rifle, grand total of $6.00.

Here's the problem, the scope on Oswald's Carcano has only 2 mount screws. That is confirmed here. Hutson, T. A. (maryferrell.org)

Additionally, I did check with a friend of mine that has the exact model scope on a model 91/38 Carcano......two mounting screws. 

Something's not adding up here. This call from WFAA Channel 8, which DPD Detective Fay Turner got the tip from (Ray John WFAA) was either a hoax, or a big misunderstanding. 

3 hours ago, Greg Doudna said:

The reason it can be known Dial Ryder did not fabricate that Oswald job ticket, apart from lack of any evidence he did, is Oswald was witnessed at the Furniture Mart store before he went to the Irving Sport Shop at Furniture Mart store owner Edith Whitworth's direction, after Oswald had asked Edith Whitworth for a gunsmith. Dial Ryder did not put Edith Whitworth up to that. No, Dial Ryder simply happened to be there working the counter, alone that day, at the Irving Sport Shop that morning when Oswald walked in the door, after Edith Whitworth sent him there.

Truly Dial Ryder was the one lying and Hunter Schmidt the one telling the truth, to the Warren Commission, in that conflict of testimony to which you refer, but you have got it wrong on what Dial Ryder was lying about in that conflict of testimony to the Warren Commission. 

Greg, this is not making sense. Now you say Oswald did enter the Irving Sport Shop from the info provided by Ms. Whitworth, which is highly questionable itself. So, was the claim ticket for Oswald's gun or not?

And why would Ryder say in his testimony he hung up the phone on Schmidt with "no comment"? Jim Lehrer of the Times Herald witnessed the Schmidt to Ryder call, and it went on for a few minutes. Lehrer, James (maryferrell.org)

Greg,

You place a lot of faith on Dial Duwayne Ryder's story. If you read through all the FBI reports, his WC testimony and the most damning the Hunter Schmidt testimony, you will find mega conflicting accounts. 

Even a Dallas FBI agent doubted it FBI 105-82555 Oswald HQ File, Section 160 (maryferrell.org)

Dallas Times Herald reporter Hunter Schmidt broke the story, after finally locating Ryder in Irving and calling him on the phone. Ryder then denied it. That's when Ryder began getting really fuzzy on details.  Liebler tried to get to the bottom on it, because one of them was obviously lying. Would a Times Herald reporter just make this story up out of the blue? Of course not.

I know Greener tried to paint Ryder in a good light, but the kid obviously got caught. 

19 hours ago, Tom Gram said:

As for your “big question”, are you asking for an opinion? Cause you seem to do that pretty often. Why do opinions matter? When you ask these types of questions it almost seems like some sort of bait where you’re trying to impugn someone’s credibility based on their beliefs about the case. I’ll play along. Do I have doubts about the official story? Absof*****gloutely. Did Oswald kill Tippit? I don’t know, and neither do you. 

Didn't Brewer say when the house lights were turned on, he saw Oswald get up from his seat, attempt to move and sat right back down either in his same seat or nearby? What's that all about Tom? 

Yes, Brewer did ID Oswald for the cops from the left side of the stage (facing screen). Absolutely. 

McDonald heard Brewer explain to the other cops, either Hutson/Walker/Hawkins where Oswald was sitting. So, he went down the aisle, searched two guys first for weapons and then worked himself up to Oswald. Then he did the same with Oswald, had him stand on his feet, then Oswald suckered punched him. What's that all about Tom? 

Then Oswald pulled out his revolver and the fight was on. Why did Oswald pull out his revolver Tom?

See anything suspicious going on Tom? 

You said: Did Oswald kill Tippit? I don’t know, and neither do you. (DiEugenio said repeatedly Oswald didn't shoot Tippit, does he get a pass too?)

That's a pretty amazing comment Tom, since you and Ben Cole declared the Walker bullet was steel-jacketed and not the actual bullet in the National Archives. See the contradiction? 

2 hours ago, Tom Gram said:

You don’t think a guy standing on the stage with the lights on with a bunch of cops literally pointing at him might’ve been a bit of a clue? 

Per your theory Oswald was so desperate to escape getting taken into custody that all Tippit had to do was get out of his car for Oswald to draw and fire, yet in the theater Oswald just sits there calmly surrounded by cops thinking he might get away with it after getting pointed at from the stage and watching other theater patrons get patted down for weapons? 

Makes a lot of sense… 

Seriously Tom? 

I don't know if you have ever been to the Texas Theater, but I have, as well as Bill Brown. Both of us have been back there on the stage, behind the stage, the fire escapes etc. 

You said this extremely dubious question: You don’t think a guy standing on the stage with the lights on with a bunch of cops literally pointing at him might’ve been a bit of a clue? 

What did Johnny Brewer say?Just before they came (Police), they turned the house lights on, and I looked out from the curtains and saw the man. Warren Commission Hearings, Volume VII (maryferrell.org) 

Johnny was peeking through the curtains, OK? He wasn't standing front stage in front of everyone with the cops, pointing out Oswald with the cops. You do recognize this, right Tom??????  Read on the link above. 

Would you like to correct yourself on this? or not? 

Ok Tom, the big question to you is this: Did Oswald murder Officer Tippit or not?

23 hours ago, Tony Krome said:

If Oswald was armed when confronted by Baker, do you think he would have shot him too?

I have no idea. Depends on a lot of factors. All hypotheticals. 

Do you believe Oswald murdered officer Tippit? 

23 hours ago, Greg Doudna said:

Good valid question if Brewer's identification was correct that the man at the front of his shoe store seen through his glass front door of his store was Oswald. But if that man of Brewer was not Oswald (but was the Tippit killer), the same man who after going into the balcony of the theater was seen by officer Courson coming down from the balcony and Courson too also thought he was Oswald (though that man was not), then the question collapses.

The difference here with Brewer was he identified Oswald in the Texas and pointed him out to cops as the same man standing in the alcove of Hardy Shoes. Oswald murdered J.D. Tippit, no doubt about it. 

On 2/19/2024 at 1:13 PM, David Von Pein said:

In order to keep the idea of a nonexistent conspiracy alive in the Walker and JFK shootings, James DiEugenio, as usual, will ignore the obvious and clear answers to the questions he posed above.

IOW --- Different day....same old worn-out CTer crap. Yawn.

David, I read this laughable article by Cairns. Seems he channeled DiEugenio for this nonsense, like the HSCA concluded it was a conspiracy. What Cairns conveniently left out of this junk piece was the HSCA concluded that Oswald fired the shots from the TSBD.

One thing you can say about DiEugenio and his side-hustle K&K site, he's always been consistent on delivering laughable garbage, which he asks for donations after every fluff article he posts. 

On 2/19/2024 at 2:21 PM, Cory Santos said:

Sorry, have to side with Jim on this one.  

Have you ever contributed money to DiEugenio on his Kennedys and Kings website? 

11 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

Here is another article about good old Hugh.  

This one is even more extensive than mine.

https://covertactionmagazine.com/2024/02/13/hugh-aynesworth-cia-media-asset-fbi-informer-friend-of-lyndon-johnson-white-house-and-medias-darling-jfk-assassination-lone-nutter-journalist-dies-at-92/

Here's another good example of Mr. DiEugenio's extreme serious lack of scholarship and accountability. 

He quotes a highly questionable source to continue his despicable vile grave dancing antics. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/covertaction-magazine-bias/

From media bias fact check:

Overall, we rate CovertAction Magazine Left-Biased and Questionable based on the promotion of conspiracy theories, pseudoscience, propaganda, poor sourcing, lack of transparency, numerous false claims, and failed fact checks. (M. Huitsing 08/30/2023)

Bottom line here, Mr. DiEugenio has served up more double whoppers than a Topeka, Kansas Burger King. 

2 hours ago, Jeremy Bojczuk said:

New members may not be aware that Jim has been doing this sort of thing for years:

1. making a claim;
2. seeing that claim debunked;
3. failing to respond to the points made in the debunking;
4. and repeating his original claim as though the debunking had never happened.

This is not the behaviour of someone who is genuinely interested in finding out the truth of the matter.

Couldn't agree with you more. Very well stated.

BTW, the man Bernard Haire saw going out the back door of the Texas Theater, could have been Applin. 

DiEugenio's introduction to Pease's RFK book: 

This book makes a quantum leap forward, in both the explication of the crime and the cover-up. Lisa Pease has found new evidence that is too abundant to list here. Some of it no one even knew existed. Some of it surprised even someone as jaded as myself. On one key item, she called me up at night and told me to come down to the library she was at to see it. It was so exculpatory of Sirhan that she thought it would soon disappear, and if so she needed someone to bear witness. I will not try to summarize the case presented here, but I will say this: if Sirhan ever got a new trial, this book could be used to set him free. I doubt a prosecutor would even bring a case once he examined its contents. Former California Attorney General and now Senator Kamala Harris would have been humiliated in court. Which explains why she resisted reopening the case.

Pease, Lisa. A Lie Too Big to Fail: The Real History of the Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy (p. xxi). Feral House. Kindle Edition. 

Lisa Pease, who solved the RFK murder wrote:

The few witnesses with a clear view of the subject and his gun said the gun was pointed straight at Kennedy’s face when the first shots went off, before Uecker grabbed the gunman. Perhaps MacArthur was as aware as Calkins had been of what “bits of paper” in the air indicated: that the suspect had been firing blanks, not bullets.

Pease, Lisa. A Lie Too Big to Fail: The Real History of the Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy (p. 56). Feral House. Kindle Edition. 

The last explanation is the simplest, and here perhaps Occam’s Razor serves us the best. Maybe the reason the barrel was leaded is that none of the copper-jacketed bullets expended in the pantry had been fired from it. Credible witnesses saw Sirhan fire his gun in the pantry. But no witness “saw” him fire copper-jacketed bullets, or any bullets, for that matter. Bullets move too quickly to be seen with the naked eye. People saw a flame coming out of Sirhan’s gun and assumed that meant a bullet had exited. But Sirhan could have been firing blanks, i.e., slugless cartridges. The numerous witness reports of seeing a tongue of flame come from Sirhan’s gun muzzle support this notion, as bullets do not create much of a flash when fired, but blanks or slugless cartridges contain paper that flash-burns when the gun is fired, producing a long, highly visible flame. (Note: Pease is dead wrong, it's a muzzle blast)

Pease, Lisa. A Lie Too Big to Fail: The Real History of the Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy (p. 238). Feral House. Kindle Edition. 

Knowing Sirhan was going to be firing blanks, other conspirators simply had to wait until Sirhan fired his first shot. Then, while everyone else in the pantry froze in shock and fear, assassins moved quickly to get the job done. This scenario fits all the known evidence. Sirhan was like a magician’s assistant, providing the distraction by firing blanks. All eyes went to his gun, leaving the actual assassins to do their job. The actual shooters could have used suppressors and kept their weapons well hidden, perhaps in rolled-up posters or under a newspaper or a busboy’s towel.

Pease, Lisa. A Lie Too Big to Fail: The Real History of the Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy (p. 289). Feral House. Kindle Edition. 

There you have it; Lisa Pease makes the claim that Sirhan was firing blanks and did not murder RFK. DiEugenio puts his stamp of approval in this conspiracy peddling nonsense. 

On 1/24/2024 at 6:24 PM, Gerry Down said:

Thanks. I heard Steve Roe say in an interview a while back that he had put a diagram of the escape route in her book so I went out and bought it around a year ago, flicked through the book and couldn't see any diagram.

I was wondering how Steve Roe could get such a thing wrong.

Just looked now again and the diagram is indeed there on page 114 ☺️

Had me thinking there for a minute, I know I put it in there. 

Regarding the wall where the Walker bullet went through (yes, the real Walker bullet CE573), it was a lath/plaster wall. If I recall right, Walker said it was 9" inches thick in his WC testimony. Technically you can call it masonry, but specifically it was metal lathing and plaster. That was typical of homes back in that era, before drywall sheeting.   

20 hours ago, Lawrence Schnapf said:

You are assuming that the bullet the FBI tested in November was the same bullet that was stored at the Parkland lab for the prior six months? Misnomer or was Curry speaking accurately?

Larry, do you really still believe that the FBI did a bullet switcheroo on the Walker Bullet??????

If you do, why did the FBI conclude they could not match that bullet slug to Oswald's Carcano to the exclusion of all other rifles????

On 12/1/2023 at 8:05 AM, Michael Griffith said:

-- Haverstick definitely proves that Jerrie Cobb was the CIA agent who used the identities of June Cobb and Catherine Taafe.

Ms. Haverstick's imagination has gotten the better of her.

I was amused how Morley went along with this nonsense, on his podcast, without doing basic research. Maybe he was just being polite and throwing out more conspiracy "red meat" to attract more paid subscribers to his Substack column with another "breaking conspiracy story". 

Geraldyn M. "Jerrie" Cobb, who was NASA's first woman astronaut candidate in the early 1960's, a pilot who learned to fly at age 12 (from her father) was from Oklahoma and at one time lived in Ponca City, previous to that she lived in Oklahoma City. She was the daughter of William H. Cobb, a former Air Force pilot who had a car dealership in Ponca City in 1960. "Jerrie" Cobb was 29 years old in 1960. 

Viola June Cobb, also from Ponca City was the daughter of Jasper E. Cobb. June Cobb who was older than "Jerrie", was 33 years old in 1960. 

They are clearly two different women. 

Viola June Cobb was of operational interest to the CIA in 1960. They (OS) investigated if there was a connection of identity of "Jerrie" and June Cobb. There was not. 

OFFICE OF SECURITY FILE ON COBB, VIOLA JUNE (maryferrell.org)

To think Viola June Cobb was using a popular woman astronaut name as a "CIA cover" is entirely baseless and ludicrous. They did have similarities, but that's it. 

55 minutes ago, Jonathan Cohen said:

I don't believe he's ever written one himself, although he has stated on this forum many times that he is "agnostic" about the validity of the theory.

Thanks Jonathan, I've never seen one either. Seems strange to me why he never attempted to write a review when he has H&L authors on his K&K website. 

Can anyone point me to DiEugenio's book review of Harvey and Lee? I can't seem to find it anywhere. Surely he's done one???

On 12/7/2023 at 10:19 AM, Michael Griffith said:

Now, of course, if one assumes that Oswald went straight to the post office before going to work, that would have put him at work at around 8:17, assuming he was first in line at the post office and that the money-order purchase only took two minutes. 17 minutes is still a significant timesheet fudge, and showing up 17 minutes late would likely have been noticed by someone at his work. 

Moreover, there is the thorny problem of how Oswald could have afforded to spend $21.45 on a mail-order rifle when he only had $16 to spend. In the seven weeks before he bought the money order for the rifle, he finished paying the $396 balance that he owed the State Department. State Department records show that his debt was cleared on March 9, three days before he bought the $21.45 money order ($205 in today's dollars, no small amount). But during those seven weeks, Oswald only made $490, and his rent alone was $68, leaving him only $16 to provide for his family (Anthony Summers, Not in Your Lifetime, pp. 193-194). So how could he have paid for a $21.45 money order with $16? How did he and his family eat and pay their other bills during those seven weeks?

Michael, let me understand your position here. Are you claiming that Oswald never bought that Klein's money order, never received the Carcano addressed to his post office box and never had possession of that rifle? 

Or are you just considering this theory as a possibility?

I know you are quoting Anthony Summer's claim that he had doubts that Oswald had the money to buy the rifle. I read that passage to confirm, but his footnotes I couldn't find listed in his book. Perhaps you have the footnotes in yours. 

However, if you read through this WC document detailing Oswald's finances, you can clearly see he did have available money to buy that money order.

 Warren Commission Report (maryferrell.org)

Additionally, he did pay off his State Department Loan ($200 loan from his brother) with money orders. All in the record.

Also factor in members of the so-called Dallas White Russian community assisted the Oswalds with food and clothing. 

Bottom line, sure he had the available cash to buy that Klein's money order. 

You can scroll back in previous months to see as well. 

1 hour ago, Michael Griffith said:

The money order was purchased on March 12, so, yes, I should have said JCS, not TSBD. 

Now, the post office did not open until 8:00 AM. Oswald's timesheet shows that he checked in by 8:00 AM. The trip to the post office would have taken him at least 30 minutes--15 minutes there and 15 minutes back equals 30 minutes, and that's assuming he did not have to wait in line and assuming that the purchase transaction took only a minute or two. A 30-minute timesheet fudge is quite a fudge. 

Extremely unlikely. That makes zero sense. Most likely he caught the bus, got off on Ervay from Elm Street, went to the post office first, then either walked or caught a quick hop on the south bound Ervay bus near Browder Street and walked into work. Easier to fudge 15 minutes than 30 minutes. Will we ever know? Nope, not the first time Oswald lied in his life. 

52 minutes ago, Marcus Fuller said:

I'm pretty sure his boss confirmed that he was at work that day and corroborated what the time sheet said

Sure, he was at work on March 12th. He got paid for it. I'm impressed with your mind reading skills on his boss confirming he showed up at 08:00 sharp. Nothing in the record says that.