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  1. Victor Leo Marchetti Jr. was special assistant to the Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency and served during the Kennedy Administration. He was a critic of the Warren Report. As for Skorzeny's role with the anti-Castro operatives, it appears he was not directly involved with them, but try this on for size, and see if it fits: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP70-00058R000300010046-7.pdf Skorzeny also met with ALPHA-66 co-founder Eloy Gutiérrez Menoyo, an anti-Castro terrorist: https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32336930.pdf https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32336950.pdf
  2. I never said COL. Prouty was a crackpot, or a fraud. I said, using his own direct quotes, that he may have been engaged in a limited hangout, and I presented my case. To quote the late, great Strother Martin: Of course, maybe it's a failure to communicate on my part...
  3. I have to restructure that narrative, because I found out that some of the CIA documents were counterintelligence narratives and I had to go back and reexamine the information. It will be posted again, to be sure, but I am working on like twenty different lines of intrigue, and it will take some time. Nevermind the onslaught of slander, diversionary tactics, personal insults and non sequitur I've endured with this one post alone.
  4. Every time one of your fidgety, sweaty, sausage-skinner fingers slams down on the face of the keyboard to type another provocateur rant, and you click "Submit Reply," you are keeping my thread alive, genius. Just stop doing it. Nobody cares. Sincerely, The people on this forum who can think freely. PS: Just stop, please.
  5. The contextual definition of "principal agent" is that Prince Egon Maximilian von Hohenlohe was a surrogate handler, working directly with other agents and reporting to an actual CIA staff officer—the surrogate handler is known as a principal agent. Meaning that Prince "Max" von Hohenlohe was a structural cut-out and a willing asset for CIA covert operations within Mexico in 1963. I presented some supplemental evidence about a Mexican fascist organization called, "Los TECOS" which acted as a paramilitary death-squad for one of Winston M. Scott's anti-communist propaganda outlets, "Movimiento Universitario de Renovadora Orientación" (MURO), which was awarded the cryptonym "LIEVICT." However, until we have further documentation, it is difficult to fathom just what Prince "Max" von Hohenlohe was doing, though the fact that he was very good friends with SS-Brigadeführer Walter Schellenberg, the Chief of Amt VI, Ausland-SD and the immediate supervisor of SS-Obersturmbannführer Otto Skorzeny, is a further indication that the research of Leslie Sharp and the late Hank Albarelli are dead-center, hit on target, correct. Once again, it is equally fascinating and disturbing to see his name pop up in official documents. Especially documents surrounding the CIA's "Garrison Group."
  6. Amen! Both of my grandfathers and nine of my great-uncles fought in the United States Armed Forces during the Second World War, all in the European Theater of Operations, and they kicked the living guts out of the fascists all across, North Africa, Italy, France, Belgium, Denmark and Germany! And I have thirteen great-aunts who worked in the munitions factories state-side as "Rosie Riveters." It makes me so proud to know I have genuine Nazi killers in my family, and their blood courses through my veins!
  7. No argument there, however, there are more millionaires and billionaires in China than any other country on the globe, so you can't really call it a communist system anymore. China hasn't been a communist state since Henry Kissinger visited in the early 1970s... Bingo, and the man gets a cigar! Grayson Mallet-Prevost Murphy Sr. was the man who financed the Business Plot of 1933, in order to replace the democratic processes of the United States with a fascist dictatorship. Grayson M. P. Murphy used the Guaranty Trust Company as a financial conduit to arm elements of American Protective League as a shock-troop task force to take over the US Capitol. Luckily, this lunacy never came to pass, because United States Marine Corps Major General Smedley Darlington Butler exposed the plot:
  8. Not too sure you want to go around calling people schizophrenic, especially ever since that is a personal insult (and since I suffer from combat-induced PTSD, a horrifyingly personal attack) and a direct violation of the rules of conduct on this forum.
  9. No doubt, that's why we are here, to raise eyebrows and think. Plus, when a good time turns around, you must whip it! However, the document literally identities Nazi intelligence agent Prince Egon Maximilian von Hohenlohe a quote, "...principal agent..." of the Central Intelligence Agency in Mexico in 1963. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=101443#relPageId=40&search=hohenlohe No if, ands, or butts about it. Plus, if Allen Welsh Dulles really was a driving force behind the murder of President Kennedy, I'd imagine he'd mobilize people with anti-democratic ideals he could manipulate. Kinda like a Nazi war criminal on the lam, living under the protection of CIA, who can't say no to an order, lest the CIA Chief of the Israeli Desk, James Jesus Angleton, toss his sorry goose-stepping hiney to the Mossad and a war crimes tribunal...
  10. To quote my good friend Dave Emory, "...calling a functionary of the Holocaust '...a former functionary of the Holocaust...' is like calling a cockroach no longer eating human excrement from the sewers a '...former cockroach...' so don't call them '...former Nazis...', a cockroach is a cockroach and a Nazi a Nazi..." Plus, comparing Nazism, an outlawed criminal fascist political party, to communism, a type of socialist-economic system of living (of which there are at least 157 counties practicing positive forms socialism) does not make any sense. As for Reichssicherheitshauptamt agent Prince Egon Maximilian von Hohenlohe, let's examine the following entry about him, on pages 102 to 104, from a book called, "The Old Boys: The American Elite and the Origins of The CIA" by Burton Hersh: QUOTE — "...As early as winter of 1942, Schellenberg hinted to the uneasy Himmler that he now intended to launch discreet soundings. These ranged from Abram Stevens Hewitt in Stockholm to Theodore Morde, a Reader’s Digest correspondent in Ankara. Inevitably, Schellenberg discovered a go-between with lines to Allen Dulles, and early in 1943 a series of discussions ensued. Thus opened the contested exchanges between “Mr. Bull” (Dulles) and “Mr. Pauls” (Prince Egon zu Hohenlohe-Langenburg). Max Hohenlohe had long been an international-set acquaintance of Dulles, a bustling, polished socialite from the Sudetenland whose status as a minor royal drew customers for munitions from the Škoda Works, a concession Schellenberg helped him snag. Hohenlohe already bestowed over vast landed properties in Spain after marrying into the Hapsburg family; he was currently hedging his political future by traveling on a Lichtenstein passport. A Canaris familiar, Prince Hohenlohe caught Schellenberg’s attention early in 1942 by sending the rising SD official his own jaundiced appraisal of prospects in Europe. With the all-seeing SD Commander Reinhard Heydrich assassinated at the end of May, possibilities had obviously widened for the opportunistic Schellenberg. Barely thirty, scarcely beyond his baby fat, the Amt VI chieftain resembled an SS doll decked out in death’s-head campaign hat and tailored parade uniform. With Schellenberg’s cautious sponsorship, Max Hohenlohe trotted out a line of provisional peace proposals, first with the British Ambassador Sir Samuel Hoare—always a soft touch—and the sympathetic American Counselor of Embassy William Walton Butterworth (an intimate of George Kennan’s since Princeton), with Vatican sympathizers, with Fritz Klein, (a friend of both the Dulles brothers), and—evidently at the recommendation of American negotiators in Lisbon, where Kennan and Colonel Solborg were stationed—with Allen Dulles himself toward the middle of February 1943. Exactly what was agreed upon has become a matter of dispute, largely because the SS summations of the exchanges appear to have passed through Russian hands on their way to the archives, after which the USSR News Services waited until 1948 and the upheavals of the Cold War to put them out as dispatches. Nevertheless, much of their thrust is borne out by related RSHA paperwork, private journals, and intelligence files from a variety of sources. What seemed most scandalous at the time was Dulles’ reported pique with “outdated politicians, emigres, and prejudiced Jews.” The hope in America was that these malcontents could be resettled, perhaps in “Africa.” As one in close touch with Vatican circles, Dulles maintained, he strongly urged the “German bishops” to “plead Germany’s cause” in America, keeping in mind that “it had been the American Catholics who forced the Jewish-America papers to stop their baiting of Franco Spain.” This has the look of crumbs spread upon the water. Pronouncements alternated with rich meals in a Liechtenstein chateau; Hohenlohe bit by bit exposed his quasi-official status as a spokesman for SS elements within the German government who now looked beyond the “wild men” in control. What casts a longer shadow is the outline of Allen’s geopolitical ideas. The peace he has in mind, Dulles indicates, must avoid the excesses of Versailles and permit the expanded German polity to survive, Austria included and possibly at least a section of Czechoslovakia, while excluding all thought of “victors and vanquished...as a factor of order and progress.” Within this decentralized nation, the importance of Prussia must be reduced, to ward off for the future—Dulles is quoted directly here—the “inwardly unbalanced, inferiority-complex-ridden Prussian militarism.” The resultant “Greater Germany” would backstop the “formation of a cordon sanitaire against Bolshevism and pan-Slavism through the eastward enlargement of Poland and the preservation of a strong Hungary.” This “Federal Greater Germany (similar to the United States), with an associated Danube Confederation, would be the best guarantee of order and progress in Central and Eastern Europe.” An Abwehr officer, F. Justus von Einem, later claimed to have sat in on a carefully prepared meeting at Santander in Spain in the summer of 1943 during which both Menzies and Donovan agreed to "Christian Wester" terms as recapitulated by Canaris personally. If this exchange occurred, Donovan kept it quiet. Such exploratory talks pointed well beyond the uproar of the moment. “I have known Max Hohenlohe since the days of the war,” Dulles assured a lawyer at Sullivan and Cromwell in 1965, apropos a legal favor requested by the aging prince, “when he worked with me on some rather difficult and delicate problems.” The exchanges in Liechtenstein amounted to a reconnoitering..." — END QUOTE. Prince Egon Maximilian von Hohenlohe was no "...former Nazi..." He was a well-paid, economic fixer for Škoda Works, a company that utilized slave labor from the Nazi concentrations camps and developed tanks and cannons that were used by the Nazis to slaughter millions of innocent men, women, and children in Poland, France and the former Soviet Union! And Prince "Max" von Hohenlohe was personal friends with the mass-murdering functionaries of the Holocaust, ADM Wilhelm Franz Canaris, Chief of the Abwehr and SS-Brigadeführer Walter Friedrich Schellenberg, commander of all SS-Einsatzgruppen units from 1941 to 1945, and from 1942 to the end of the war, the Chief of Amt VI, Ausland-SD and the immediate supervisor of SS-Obersturmbannführer Otto Skorzeny! Quite the circle of friends, Prince Egon Maximilian von Hohenlohe had, ja? Plus, Allen Dulles was brokering secret deals behind the Allied High Command's back with Prince "Max" von Hohenlohe, to the effect of creating a "Christian West" alliance with "former" Nazi intelligence, to the effect of starting a covert war against the Russians?! You know, the COLD WAR! This same man, Prince Egon Maximilian von Hohenlohe, is identified by Lt. Col. Raymond George Rocca, CIA Deputy Chief of Counterintelligence, Research & Analysis (DC/CI/RA) as "...principal agent..." of the Central Intelligence Agency in Mexico, in 1963?!
  11. Plus, yes, until we get to the bottom of the matter, who exactly murdered President Kennedy, I will use every resource available, ask questions, and draw logical conclusions, That is what good investigative journalism is all about. I mean, Mary Ferrell is filled to the brim with, yes CIA documents, that, yes, quote CIA assets and officers! What is your point, Mr. DiEugenio? I mean, from 1955 to 1964, COL. Prouty was a CIA asset, no? Ah, but he had a nice story, clean teeth and a firm handshake, so we all gotta bow down to CIA asset COL. Prouty...
  12. Good Lord Jim: Between 1955 and 1964, COL. Leroy Fletcher Prouty was the commander of all of the Central Intelligence Agency's military focal point support networks for covert operations! Where will all of your deflections end?
  13. I would like to note, that since Prince Egon Maximilian von Hohenlohe is quote, *"...principal agent..." of the Central Intelligence Agency in Mexico, I'd like to add that Winston Mackinley Scott AKA Willard C. Curtis, was the CIA Mexico City Station Chief. *(An intelligence officer may assign one agent to perform the role of surrogate handler, working directly with other agents and reporting to the intelligence officer—the surrogate handler is known as a principal agent). This is disturbing for two reasons: 1. Winston Mackinley Scott was the commander of a Mexican fascist organization called, "Los TECOS" which acted as a paramilitary death-squad for one of Winston M. Scott's anti-communist propaganda outlets, "Movimiento Universitario de Renovadora Orientación" (MURO), which was awarded the cryptonym "LIEVICT." LIEVICT's paymaster was Lt. Col. Alphonse Rudolph “Al Pancho” Wichtrich, cryptonym "LIHUFF-1," formerly the CIA Chief of Operations, Panama, in 1951, and in 1963, was executive vice president, American Chamber of Commerce, Mexico City, vice chairman of DuPont de Nemours, Inc., Mexico City, general manager of Royal Crown Cola, Mexico City, and an asset of Chase Manhattan Bank president, David Rockefeller's "ZRAWARD" operation in New York. Los TECOS acted as a front for Nazi intelligence during WWII, via the Acción Revolucionaria Mexicanista, or "Camisas Doradas," a direct copy of the Nazi Sturmabteilung units. LIEVICT was a propaganda arm of Los TECOS. And the Prince Hohenlohe report is from a man who made the Dallas patsy look like a communist in New Orleans, Carlos Jose Bringuier, Directorio Revolucionario Estudantil's Chief of Public Affairs and Propaganda. And the Lt. Col. Raymond George Rocca, CIA Deputy Chief of Counterintelligence, Research & Analysis (DC/CI/RA) document states that Nazi intelligence agent Prince Egon Maximilian von Hohenlohe was quote, "...big in propaganda..." https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=101443#relPageId=40&search=hohenlohe 2. In 1951, when Winston Mackinley Scott was Chief of Covert Operations, Office of Special Operations, Western Europe, his name shows up on a document concerning SS-Obersturmbannführer Otto Skorzeny: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/SKORZENY%2C OTTO VOL. 2_0012.pdf Kinda makes you wonder if the Chief of Covert Action in Western Europe Winston Mackinley Scott, later CIA Station Chief in Mexico City, utilized herr Skorzeny for some other purpose. After all, according to the mind-bendingly brilliant work of Bill Simpich, Winston Scott's assets are all over the setting up of the patsy in Dallas: https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Essay_-_Oswald_Legend_10.html And who is Winston Mackinley Scott's "...principal agent..." to the Central Intelligence Agency in Mexico? Reichssicherheitshauptamt agent Prince Egon Maximilian von Hohenlohe! Once again, please, discuss. And please do, keep the discussion civil. Thank you.
  14. While looking at some documents (it's what I do, I'm a documents hound), I came across a disturbing entry at Mary Ferrell: Apparently, District Attorney of Orleans Parish James Carothers "Big Jim" Garrison was literally looking for Nazi intelligence agents: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=97720#relPageId=3&search=hohenlohe In case your wondering, the Nazi that US Army Lt. Col. Raymond George Rocca, CIA Deputy Chief of Counterintelligence, Research & Analysis (DC/CI/RA), commander of the CIA's "Garrison Group," identifies in this document, Prince Egon Maximilian von Hohenlohe, a Nazi intelligence agent and member of the Reichssicherheitshauptamt, was close, personal friends with Allen Welsh Dulles, going all the way back to WWII: https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Devil_s_Chessboard/MeE_BgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=Hohenlohe Any thoughts on why Lt. Col. Raymond George Rocca, CIA Deputy Chief of Counterintelligence, Research & Analysis (DC/CI/RA) felt that this is the man DA Garrison was looking for? A follow-up document calls Nazi intelligence agent Prince Egon Maximilian von Hohenlohe a quote, *"...principal agent..." of the Central Intelligence Agency: *(An intelligence officer may assign one agent to perform the role of surrogate handler, working directly with other agents and reporting to the intelligence officer—the surrogate handler is known as a principal agent). https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=101443#relPageId=40&search=hohenlohe Could it be that there were, I don't know, Nazis working for the CIA involved in murdering President Kennedy? Discuss. And please, keep the discussion civil. Thank you.
  15. Back from the waves, very nice here in Laguna. Yes, once again, I acknowledge, having absorbed every (no exaggeration) bit of media I could find on COL. Prouty, and yes he did some brilliant work—I would not be here doing this research if I didn't start looking at COL. Prouty's work (amongst hundreds of other researcher's & whistleblower's work)—bless you Colonel. However, that is not the purpose of this post. Nor is continuing a pro-COL. Prouty death rant accomplishing anything other than proving we cannot enter into a civilized debate without hitting am impregnable psychic force-field made up of provocateurs like Griffith or "...COL. Prouty is a saint..." echo-chambering from yourself, Mr. DiEugenio (holy-cow, I love you and your work, but this is so painfully obvious). What's that neo-Nazi sound-bite that get's thrown around here a lot, "...To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize...” I know that is overtly simplistic, but holy horse blinders Batman, is it ever happing here. And the late, great, Mae Brussell, wrote that article over 40 years ago. So much good research has come forward since. You know, like Coup in Dallas, which currently has no review on kennedysandking.com. Not to sound like a shameless shill, but what gives? Not even a "...this is garbage, don't read it..." hit piece from Vasilios Vazakas... And how dare you invoke Jim Garrison in this post, when he was literally looking for Nazi intelligence agents, something you never mention in both versions of your book, Mr. DiEugenio: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=97720#relPageId=3&search=hohenlohe In case your wondering, that Nazi that US Army Lt. Col. Raymond George Rocca, CIA Deputy Chief of Counterintelligence, Research & Analysis (DC/CI/RA), identities in this document, Prince Egon Maximilian von Hohenlohe, a Nazi intelligence agent who was close, personal friends with Allen Welsh Dulles, going all the way back to WWII: https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Devil_s_Chessboard/MeE_BgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=Hohenlohe Do you have anything to say about this document, Mr. DiEugenio, or why it does not enter anywhere in your work?
  16. Thanks Leslie. So far, not one "researcher" has actually entered into a legitimate discourse with me. I tried hard not believe the stories you've told me about the Education Forum since my ban over three years ago, but yowza! Some people really are narrative defenders and not actually researchers who have the huevos to ask, yes, difficult and disturbing questions, no matter the paradigm that may be upset.
  17. I hope you don't mind that I emboldened one of you sentences, Mr. Cooper. "...I certainly don't condemn Prouty for it..." Exactly. I am not attacking the legacy of COL. Prouty, I am trying to examine whether or not, COL. Prouty had any connection to Operation BLOODSTONE (by his own admission, he did), & whether or not he was involved in the development of special operations teams that were later turned on the President of the United States (sure as Hell seems like that happened). Plus, when you consider the disturbing implications surrounding SS-Obersturmbannführer Skorzeny (a man who's entire Nazi special forces cadre was absorbed by Operation BLOODSTONE) having something to do with the mechanics that physically murdered the President (Hell, Jean René Marie Souètre was trained by Skorzeny, that is a historical fact), I have to do the logical thing and ask questions. Yes, questions so upsetting, that even someone as powerful as Mr. DiEugenio may be afraid to ask. Once again, I am not engaging in slander, I quote COL. Prouty directly. Though it may seem like I am attacking COL. Prouty, I am not. However, I have no illusions about the special operations community. I served in a close support capacity with them in Afghanistan, and I can tell you about events in my life that will make you want to end it in all. COL. Prouty was not a boy scout and the personnel that received his support behind enemy lines, between 1955 and 1964, the bulk of them, were World War II veterans of the Axis Powers, functionaries of the Holocaust in Europe, and the mass extermination of Asian men, women and children under the Imperial Japanese. Ever heard of Lt. Gen. Seizō Arisue, Mr. DiEugenio, the Chief of Military Intelligence for the Imperial Japanese Armed Forces during WWII, and Operation BLOODSTONE asset? Lt. Gen. Seizō Arisue oversaw the mass murder of ten million men, women, and children in Southeast Asia, the Pacific Islands and Mainland China as commander of the Imperial Japanese total-war plan, and during his tenure and was a military attaché to the Vatican! Later, Lt. Gen. Seizō Arisue ran Operation GLADIO-style stay-behind units in North Korea for the Seoul CIA Station Chief, US Army COL. Albert Richard Haney, commander of US military support teams involved in the 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état, code-named PBSUCCESS. Guess who, Mr. DiEugenio, flew in the US security teams at Atsugi Air Base, when the genocidal goon Lt. Gen. Seizō Arisue surrendered his entire intelligence command structure to US Army Maj. Gen. Charles Andrew Willoughby? United States Army Air Forces Captain Leroy Fletcher Prouty.
  18. Yes, COL. Prouty made some very valuable contributions to the cause of fact-finding surrounding the murder of President Kennedy, I wholly admit that, and it is thru his admissions that I first heard of Operation BLOODSTONE. However, their is nothing at all benign about his claims. I have scoured every source imaginable and there is ever indication that Operation BLOODSTONE was in full-effect by 1963! Ever heard of Operation BLOODSTONE operative Mykola Lebed, who oversaw CIA commandos under cryptonym AERODYNAMIC. I bet you haven't Look him up and get ready to vomit. The intrepid COL. Prouty was the Chief of Special Operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the commander of a CIA focal point network, arming special operations personnel behind enemy lines. And that means, COL. Prouty was the top focal point man arming Mykola Lebed, who by 1951, was a full-fledged CIA agent, commanding CIA special operations teams in the field, and was still commanding these teams by 1963. Never mind that Mykola Lebed was directly responsible for the mass-genocide of one-hundred thousand Polish Jews in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia. How did COL. Prouty sleep at night? This is not reductive or roundabout logic, these are the facts. Never mind that during COL. Prouty's tenure as the CIA's top focal point officer, arming covet operations via the military, no less than twelve coup d'états took place that we know of where the CIA utilized COL. Prouty's military support networks! Once again, how did the man sleep at night. And don't give me any crap about being a good soldier, it's called having integrity not following an unlawful order, something I did in combat several times, to the point that I was threatened with a damn firing squad! Anyway, thanks for the memories. I think I should take a break from this research for a while. Mr. DiEugenio, if you already haven't done it, I wish of you to take a long view assessment of COL. Prouty. Yes he repented in the final hours of his life, and provided some fantastic insight, and I myself have absorbed every bit of media that references him (as you can see). But truly, consider every brutal action taken by the US special operations community between 1955 and 1964. COL. Prouty was at the tip of the spear for all of that. Including Operations like GLADIO and BLOODSTONE, that were filled to the brim with tens-of-thousands of World War II era war criminals. Consider it. That's all I have to say. Sorry if I ruffled some powerful feathers.
  19. The whole experience with this post has been Orwellian with a hint of Kafka. I either get doublespeak, groupthink or nonsensical persecution, and all I did was ask a question by stating a couple of facts, posting a supporting document or two, usage of direct quotes, and, yes, a little inference.
  20. For the love of peace and illumination, enough of the personal attacks, I AM NOT SPINNING ANYTHING ANTI-COL. PROUTY, NOR IS IT A CONSPIRACY THEORY! I am quoting COL. Prouty directly, on topics that have been ignored by elements of the research community, yes, but I am not going to entertain this monkey-shine any further! It seems you have an axe to grind, so go grind it somewhere else! For Pete's sake, I reposted the original post I set up, with the intent of getting back on track and here you are again trying to get me to hold your hand in the bash COL. Prouty crowd, which is not at all what I am doing. Do you, or any of the other deflective clowns that have commented here, have anything to add about Operation BLOODSTONE, or the fact that COL. Prouty had intimate knowledge surrounding it's development, function, deployment and utilization?! If not, take a hike! Christ almighty, you guys call yourself researchers?! And you, Mr. Griffith, did COL. Prouty pee in your Cheerios, or something? Quit hijacking this post, you provocateur! Sincerely, The author of the post that nobody will engage in proper decorum with.
  21. Since this post devolved into slander against me, non-sequitur logic improv, non-topic deflective straw-man "...but Prouty is a good soldier..." counter arguments and poor attempts to slip me up, here is what I originally posted. Let's try to stay on track, and engage in constructive analysis. I'm here to talk about Operation BLOODSTONE, and indications that COL. Prouty either helped organize it, arm those fascist émigré armies, or both, & and the implications surrounding the actual mechanics that murdered President Kennedy. Jawohl? Good. I realize that the very mention of USAF COL. Leroy Fletcher Prouty, sparks the imagination of even the least initiated surrounding the events of President Kennedy's violent removal. I mean, imagine it, here is the former Chief of Special Operations, Joint Chiefs of Staff, deputy to USMC Lt. Gen. Victor Harold Krulak Special Assistant for Counter Insurgency Activities, Joint Chiefs of Staff, coming forward and saying, yes, the murder of President Kennedy was a highly organized military style coup, and it required the utilization of several overt and covert networks in order to pull it off. COL. Prouty even awarded those networks a spiffy little moniker: "...The Secret Team.." Spooky, right? Well, over fifty years have passed, I have not seen any proof documented of such an aligned network of conspirators. That is until a few weeks ago, when I got done reading a book by author Christopher Simpson. And the information about this network of Nazi commandos and assassins was provided by interviews given to author Christopher Simpson by COL. Prouty personally. A network of Nazi commandos and assassins that COL. Prouty says he created himself! The following passage, from pages 137 & 138 of Christopher Simpson’s “Blowback: America's Recruitment of Nazis and Its Destructive Impact on Our Domestic and Foreign Policy,” which demonstrate that COL. Prouty, by his own admission, was a driving force behind creation of the United States Army’s “Special Forces” units—and that these same units later morphed into assassination teams: QUOTE — "...The Bloodstone proposal was approved by SANACC, the special interagency intelligence coordinating committee, on June 10, 1948. A month later the JCS approved a second, interlocking plan for the recruitment and training of guerrilla leaders from among the Soviet émigré groups. This initiative was a slightly modified version of the revived Vlasov Army Plan, which had originally been promoted by Kennan, Thayer and Franklin Lindsay, who later worked with many of these same guerrillas on behalf of the CIA. In their report on this second proposal the Joint Chiefs reveal that Bloodstone was part of a covert warfare, sabotage, and assassination operation...the recruitment of foreign mercenaries for political murder missions was a specific part of Operation Bloodstone from the beginning…" — END QUOTE. Perhaps not so incidentally, Franklin A. Lindsay, an OSS commando and CIA veteran of stay-behind operations in Albania and Ukraine, was the man who recruited Everette Howard Hunt Jr. into the CIA—E. Howard Hunt, utilizing the pseudonym “Eduardo” of course, was “Jerry” Droller’s subordinate in “Operation Zapata.” Hunt and Lindsay were both siphoning US taxpayer funds from the Economic Cooperation Administration to covertly finance “Operation GLADIO,” via a secret slush-fund within the European Recovery Program AKA The Marshall Plan, *previously unidentified cryptonym called “...ZRCANDY...” *(Could somebody contact Bill Simpich for me and get this on Mary Ferrell?) ZRCANDY funds were, according to CIA cross-references, “...ECA counterpart funds turned over to CIA…” Interestingly enough, Franklin A. Lindsay was president of the Itek Corporation when it stole the original Orville Nix film of the JFK murder and never returned it. Of course, as Chief of Office of Special Operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, COL. Prouty was “Jerry” Droller’s liaison to USMC General Graves Blanchard Erskine, Director of Special Operations of the United States Department of Defense, organizing the creation of the anti-Castro émigré armies! The mysterious "Jerry" Droller was later replaced by E. Howard Hunt as the CIA political action officer in-charge of the anti-Castro émigré effort... ...But I digress... Disturbing still, is the fact that Frank Lindsay’s Air Operations liaison in monstrously evil “Operation BLOODSTONE,” was US Air Force COL. Leroy Fletcher Prouty, which, once again utilizing Christopher Simpson’s “Blowback: America's Recruitment of Nazis and Its Destructive Impact on Our Domestic and Foreign Policy,” this time on pages 182 to 184, we can clearly see that COL. Prouty was front-and-center in the utilization of Nazi émigrés within US Army Special Forces: QUOTE — "...The process of integrating ex-Nazi émigré groups into U.S. nuclear operations may be traced to at least early 1947, when General Hoyt Vandenberg became the first Chief of Staff of the newly independent US Air Force. Vandenberg had commanded the 9th Air Force in Europe during World War II, then had been tapped to head the Central Intelligence Group, the immediate predecessor to the CIA, in 1946. Among the general's responsibilities at the air force was the development of written plans describing strategies and tactics for the use of America's new nuclear weapons in the event of a war. “Vandenberg had a clear idea about just how he thought a nuclear war was going to be fought,” argues retired Colonel Fletcher Prouty, who was a senior aide to the Air Force Chief of Staff in the 1940s and later top liaison man between the Pentagon and the CIA. “[He] knew that if there was a nuclear exchange in those days—and we were talking about atomic bombs, now, not H-bombs—you would destroy the communications and lifeblood of a country, but the country would still exist. It would just be rubble. People would be wandering around wanting to know who was boss and where the food was coming from and so forth, but the country would still be there." Therefore the US thinking went, “we must begin [to create independent communication centers inside the Soviet Union] after the nuclear blast and begin to pull it together for our ends.” The army, air force, and CIA all began competing programs to prepare for the post nuclear battlefield. This included the creation of what eventually came to be called the Special Forces—better known today as the Green Berets—in the army and the air resupply and communication wings in the air force. The job of these units, Prouty explains, was to set up anti-Communist political leaders backed up by guerrilla armies inside the USSR and Eastern Europe in the wake of an atomic war, capture political power in strategic sections of the country, choke off any remaining communist resistance, and ensure that the Red Army could not regroup for a counterattack. “Somebody had to bring order back into the country, and before the Communists could do it we were going to come flying in there and do it,” Prouty says. “The Eastern European and Russian émigré groups we had picked up from the Germans were the center of this; they were the personnel,” according to the retired colonel. “The CIA was to prepare these forces in peacetime; stockpile weapons, radios, and Jeeps for them to use; and keep them ready in the event of war. A lot of this equipment came from military surplus. The CIA was also supposed to have some contacts [inside the USSR] worked out ahead of time for use when we got there, and that was also the job of the émigré groups on the agency payroll. In the meantime, they [the émigré troops] were useful for espionage or covert action." Both the army and the CIA laid claim to the authority to control guerrilla foot soldiers after war had actually been declared. A recently declassified top secret document confirms Prouty’s assertion that the émigré armies enjoyed an important role in the eyes of nuclear planners of the time. The 1949 study begins with a summary of what was then the current atomic strategy. Seventy atomic bombs, along with an unspecified amount of conventional explosives, were slated to be dropped from long-range planes on selected Soviet targets over a thirty-day period. The impact of the attack had to be carefully calculated, according to the JCS memo: about 40 percent of the Soviets’ industrial capacity would be destroyed, including most of the militarily crucial petroleum industry. But this, the chiefs contended, would not guarantee victory. The thirty-day atomic assault, the Pentagon concluded with considerable understatement, “might stimulate resentment against the United States” among the people of the USSR, thus increasing their will to fight. A major program of political warfare following the attack was therefore essential, the JCS determined. In fact, the effectiveness of the atomic attack itself was “dependent upon adequacy and promptness of [the] associated military and psychological operations….Failing prompt and effective exploitation, the opportunity would be lost and subsequent Soviet psychological reactions would adversely affect the accomplishment of Allied objectives.” The commitment of five wings of B-29 bombers to the émigré guerrilla army project is a practical measure of importance that the Pentagon attached to it. The B-29 was the largest, most sophisticated, and most expensive heavy bomber in the U.S. inventory at the time. According to Prouty, General Vandenberg originally conceived of the air force's role in psychological and guerrilla warfare as a third branch of his service, equal, at least in administrative status, to the Strategic Air Command and the Tactical Air Command. Special Forces visionaries in the army such as General McClure had similar plans for that service as well. The Vlasov Army guerrilla training proposals earlier initiated by Keenan, Thayer, and Lindsay fitted neatly into the military's nuclear strike force plans..." — END QUOTE. Of course, one must come to the conclusion, after reading the former admissions by COL. Prouty, that he, under Gen. Vandenberg, helped recruit and reorganize thousands of Nazi émigré guerrillas for “Operation BLOODSTONE,” meshing those fascist stay-behind commandos into the newly formed “Special Forces” of US Army Gen. Robert Alexis McClure (of course, it was Gen. McClure who served as commander of Military Assistance Advisory Group, Iran during the 15 August 1953 Iranian coup d'état, code-named Operation AJAX). Nazi émigré forces that were previously under the command of SS-Obersturmbannführer Otto Skorzeny: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/SKORZENY%2C OTTO VOL. 1_0029.pdf The above United States Army intelligence document, created from an *interrogation report from the US Army 307th Counterintelligence Corp's own debriefing of Otto Skorzeny literally identifies Skorzeny as, "...Chief of AMT VI/S..." and "...Section Chief of MILITARRISCHES AMT D..." *It should be noted that two of the debriefing officers that interrogated Skorzeny were Arnold Melvin Silver, CIA commander of Project "QJWIN" criminal spotter program and US Army Brig. Gen. Theodore C. Mataxis, Chief of Personal Staff, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs—of course, Arnold Silver's liaison to the CIA's assassination capabilities, AKA Executive Action, was William King Harvey—in November of 1963, Bill Harvey was the CIA Station Chief in Rome, Italy, where his State Department attaché to the Vatican was Carmel Offie. Carmel Offie was the Office of Policy Coordination commander of Operation BLOODSTONE, and by 1963, while working under Bill Harvey, Offie was attaché to Pope Paul VI. Pope Paul VI, AKA Giovanni Battista Enrico Antonio Maria Montini, had served, in 1952, under the Secretariat of State of the Holy See, as the Deputy of Foreign Affairs of the Vatican, and secretly met with Otto Skorzeny to finance a commando army in Spain... ...I digress once more... Amt VI-S was the Nazi High Command's special forces émigré armies—which fell under the Sicherheitsdienst des Reichsführers-SS (Security Service of the Reichsführer-SS) Foreign Security Service, or, as it was known in German, Ausland-SD. Of course, Skorzeny's other title states he was commander of the Nazi German Military Section D, or Militarrisches Amt-D. Militarrisches Amt-D was the Nazi intelligence section tasked with infiltration operations against United States military intelligence. This means that Skorzeny was commander of all Ausland-SD operations tasked with infiltration of US intelligence services, and compromising their effectiveness! And if Skorzeny really was the commanding officer, of a special team, targeting President Kennedy for assassination, he certainly had all of his old Amt VI-S commandos in well placed positions within the command structure of United States Army Special Forces Command—thanks to COL. Prouty and his Operation BLOODSTONE war plan! Dedicated researcher Leslie Sharp has pointed out the disturbing entries within the Jean-Pierre Lafitte datebook that indicate Skorzeny was mastermind behind the Kennedy murder plot. I would like to note that one of the names mentioned in the Lafitte datebook appears to be Operation MONGOOSE officer and Chief of Staff of the United States Army, Gen. George Henry Decker. In keeping with the theorem that COL. Prouty grafted SS-Obersturmbannführer Otto Skorzeny's émigré armies to United States Army Special Forces, I'd like to note that the creator of the following special forces units was Gen. Decker: Special Action Force, Asia - 1st Special Forces Group on Okinawa Special Action Force, Middle East - 3rd Special Forces Group Special Action Force, Africa - 6th Special Forces Group in CONUS Special Action Force, Latin America - 8th Special Forces Group in the Canal Zone And the CIA support officers to those Special Forces units, operating under a CIA commando training program code-named ZRJEWEL were the following men: Lt. Col. Lucien Emile Conein William Alexander "Rip" Robertson Jr. Grayston L. Lynch Special Activities Division, Special Operations Group officers Lynch and Robertson were both commanders in Operation Zapata and Conein was in charge of overthrowing the South Vietnamese government. Whether anyone will agree with me or not, I believe COL. Prouty may have known a helluva lot more than he revealed, and took valuable information concerning the real murderers of President Kennedy to the grave...
  22. This is the second time you have stated your myopic viewpoints on COL. Prouty, and believe me, I heard you the first time. I am attempting to open discourse, surrounding comments that COL. Prouty made that, to the effect, appear to indicate that he had intimate knowledge of the most perverse covert operation of the Clod War, Operation BLOODSTONE, and the structural ramifications that may have had on the what occurred in Dallas, 22 November 1963. I could care less about the weirdos in the Church of Scientology. However, yeas, I did read his responses to the ARRB, and they were comically deflective, to say the least, which adds even more fuel to the fire surrounding his connections to the far-right in the late 1980's, which calls into question what the mission of the 112th Military Intelligence Group, 4th US Army Operations Group, which according to their mission parameters, was QUOTE— "...To contribute to the operations of 4th US Army through the detection of treason, sedition, subversive activity, and disaffection, and the detection, prevention or neutralization of espionage and sabotage within or directed against the 4th US Army and the area of it's jurisdiction..." —END QUOTE. Sure as hell sounds like the 112th MIG was targeting people who had a gripe with the government, both on the treasonous far-right and the disenfranchised left. I do agree with you wholly with your last point, that fact that I cannot get straight answers to my straight deductions is telling you something—COL. Prouty is a golden-calf that for some reason cannot be touched—even when you quote the man! That is a limited hangout.
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