Steven Gaal

Gaal, this is just getting depressing. Dorothy Marcum was NOT dating Ruby. She said so herself. Why the reliance on hearsay? Her aunt however did work for Ruby. Her name was Billie Irene Hadley Billy's husband worked for Ruby at the Vegas Club. His name was HARVEY LEE HADLEY!!!! This is the person who Dorothy was claiming worked for Ruby. And another one bites the dust... I'm not going through your list, though. Like I said -- too depressing because I know it will be shooting fish in a barrel. Actually I just realized! You're NOT relying on hearsay (which is all it ever was) You, Hargroves and/or Armstrong have put that hearsay into Dorothy's mouth! The sheer dishonesty is breathtaking. It is the second example I've found in the last few days where one of you has put hearsay into the mouth of the alleged witness. You all should be tarred and feathered and run out of Tombstone! John Armstrong http://harveyandlee.net/Ruby/Ruby.html>> Link info below "Ruby was interviewing Francis Irene Hise for a job as a waitress when a young man entered the Carousel Club and Ruby said "Hi, Ozzie" to the young man. After she was hired Miss Hise served drinks to "Ozzie," whom she recognized after the assassination as LHO." ================================ HELLO CRAFEE (a possible playful Ruby speech) WHY NOT Hi ,CRAFEE ??? . ,gaal

I'm going to ignore your "you're wrong because I say so" blather and cut to the heart of where you go wrong. Firstly, the T1 in the first document is not the same person with that designation in the second document. Those designations are repeated around the country. Do you really believe TI was simultaneously in Houston, Dallas, NO and NYC among other places? Talk about doppelgangers. Secondly, the T1 in the first document is simply mistaken. It was Senator who lived next door to Jack before moving in with him. Thirdly. I know who T1 was in that second T1 document and will be attempting to get him to go on the record in my next book. It was not Oswald at those parties. it was Crafard. That last document is years old 3rd or 4th hand hearsay, the content of which is literally unbelievable. In ANY scenario. [emphasis added by T. Graves] Excellent stuff, Greg. Thanks, --Tommy Many BELOW WORKED FOR RUBY AND THEY WOULD KNOW DIFFERENCE CRAFARD AND OSWALD. ,gaal = John Armstrong http://harveyandlee.net/Ruby/Ruby.html >> Link info below " In the summer of 1963 Dorothy Marcum was dating Ruby and her aunt worked for Ruby. Dorothy told the FBI that LEE Oswald worked for Ruby during June and July and the two men definitely knew each other. Ruby was interviewing Francis Irene Hise for a job as a waitress when a young man entered the Carousel Club and Ruby said "Hi, Ozzie" to the young man. After she was hired Miss Hise served drinks to "Ozzie," whom she recognized after the assassination as LHO. Another employee, Clyde Malcolm Limbough, worked for Ruby three years and saw Oswald in Ruby's office on several occasions. Helen Kay Smith ("Pixie Lynn"), who worked at the Carousel, told the Dallas Police that she saw Ruby and Oswald together on several occasions. Other employees of Ruby who saw Oswald in the Carousel Club were William Crowe, Wally Weston, Dixie Lynn, and Kathy Kay. Robert Roy was Ruby's auto mechanic and said that Oswald used to drop off Ruby's car for repairs. Roy then drove Oswald back to Ruby's "burlesque house." Ruby parked his car at Gibbs Auto Service and occasionally allowed friends and associates to borrow his car. Leon Woods was the manager of Gibbs and kept a "check-in and check-out" book that listed the names of people who took Ruby's car from the garage. Mr. Woods gave the book to the FBI following the assassination of President Kennedy, which the FBI later denied. During the last week of July (1963) Western Union employee Marshall Hicks delivered several telegrams addressed to "LEE Harvey Oswald" at the Rotary Apartments, 1501-1503 W. 7th St. in Dallas (while HARVEY and Marina were living in New Orleans). The FBI made no attempt to locate copies of these telegrams. DPD Detective H.M. Hart, of the Criminal Intelligence Division, received information from a Dallas Police confidential informant who knew Ruby. The informant said that in September (1963) Ruby rented an apartment at 223 S. Ewing for LEE Oswald. NOTE: Journalist Dorothy Kilgallen wrote in the New York Journal American (June 6, 1964): "It is known that 10 persons have signed sworn depositions to the Warren Commission that they knew Oswald and Ruby to have been acquainted." "

Please explain how I am making a buck off "the family pain of the Oswald family". What because I said I was writing a play about the assassination? What evidence does he have for this smear? // LAVERICK ################################################################ ASSASSINATION ?? NO MARINA NOT ASSASSINATION . gaal per your site >>> https://bernielaverick.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/bernie-laverick-2/ "When Bernie isn’t acting or singing with The Black Pearls he is working on his current project, a musical play based on the life of Marina Oswald, the widow of the alleged JFK assassin Lee Harvey Oswald." ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Rachel (Oswald) " but basically I just want it to be over, one way or another, especially by the time I have kids. - " See more at: http://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/lee-harveys-legacy/#sthash.XXMSW8xV.dpuf

Did you read the rambling accusatory letter she wrote to Robert Kennedy? She's bonkers and you know it! BONKERS ..bonkers is anyone making a buck over the family pain of the Oswald family. THAT PERSON IS IMORAL. How does that go ??? CASE CLOSED. see https://bernielaverick.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/bernie-laverick-2/ gaal +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ http://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/lee-harveys-legacy/ link info below " Rachel was quiet for a moment. "I think Lee was this twenty-four-year-old guy, this youngster, who got himself in over his head. Lee was intelligent, but he was no genius. I don’t know who else was involved, but clearly it was too big of a deal for one twenty-four-year-old kid to do by himself. For example, right before the shooting someone asked my mother to take a picture of Lee holding a rifle, and then right after the shooting, the picture is confiscated, and everyone says, ‘Look, there’s the gun, there’s the guy who did it, case closed.’ And apparently there were police recordings of someone saying Jack Ruby was planning to kill Lee, and sure enough, the next day Jack Ruby makes his way through all the police and kills Lee live on national TV. I mean, think about it. There are just too many loose ends for it all to be dumped on my father. It was just too big of a deal. Until I was twenty-three, I didn’t even know there were alternative theories. I’ve only read a couple of books about it. I’m sorry for my father’s pain, but basically I just want it to be over, one way or another, especially by the time I have kids. - " See more at: http://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/lee-harveys-legacy/#sthash.XXMSW8xV.dpuf

Bumped There is no problem. Santa Ana was attached to and under the command of El Toro. Because of that, anyone talking about El Toro could be talking about El Toro itself, Santa Ana - or both. The opposite does not apply. If Santa Ana is mentioned, it can only be reference to Santa Ana. That you guys see a problem here says it all about your willingness to see whatever you want to see. PROBLEM ,gaal Per Armstrong , 'the unit diaries from El Toro from the first half of 1959 have disappeared' link >>> http://harveyandlee.net/Marines/Marines.html

Steven Gaal, Why can't I find anything about Loustreau and Oswald or Loustreau and Noto on the Internet? Is all of that information in a secret file somewhere, or did you simply misspell "Loustreau," or what? Is there a special combination of "links" that I've missed? (I don't read your long posts because they give me headaches, and it's not just the graphics that do that.) --Tommy GRAVES ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ repeat for GRAVES see post # 1466 above. ,gaal ================= GO TO THE BAYLOR UNIVERSITY ARMSTRONG FILES. link >>> http://digitalcollec...id/41827/rec/3 You will see Oct 15,1959-June 11,1962 then CLICK ON THE DOWNLOAD BUTTON BOX on the right. YOU WILL DOWN LOAD A PDF FILE (41810 pdf). After download you will see COVER SHEET BOX 16 Notebook 2 TAB 79 Charles Noto. GO TO Pages 9,11,12,14 and 16. ,gaal 

Bumped GO TO THE BAYLOR UNIVERSITY ARMSTRONG FILES. link >>> http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/po-arm/id/41827/rec/3%20 You will see Oct 15,1959-June 11,1962 then CLICK ON THE DOWNLOAD BUTTON BOX on the right. YOU WILL DOWN LOAD A PDF FILE (41810 pdf). After download you will see COVER SHEET BOX 16 Notebook 2 TAB 79 Charles Noto. GO TO Pages 9,11,12,14 and 16 HAD TO BE THEN 1961 "Mr. LOUSTEAU also said that he can recall the particular incident that NOTO was talking about, but he cannot place any faces or any names. He did take a look at the photograph and said that this man is always around the Lakefront area fishing; that he has talked to him on several occasion; that he has seen him abound a panel truck with a television rgpriir sign on it which apo^rTnTly^w-Ei-3o^e by an individual and not by a professional ^Tj^'p^r^y.1 However, LOUSTEAU sajd that this-CQulo not have (happened inl9&2 fagsauss as ha •asaambars it. it was in .61. fSajSjjZcaB ^^-h~r CHAMPQa siting ^^roUabsthatj. <"* 161 J)but that he knows this incident could not have been in October or November of 1962 because JOE CRONIN was not working for the Levee Board " And did Noto or Loustreau ever say if this person calling himself LHO looked anything like the historic Oswald? There's a question you will avoid at all costs... // LAVERICK QUOTE ########################################### YES HE DID. HE SAW PHOTIOGRAPH AND HE WAS " always around the Lakefront area fishing " LEE in New Orleans Safe House working electronics game (fishing a lot ) LEE in Dallas at Diceman Apt with Ruby. //GAAL see link http://educationforu...=21547&p=297203 avoiding zero ,gaal Gaal: "...Mr. LOUSTEAU also said that he can recall the particular incident that NOTO was talking about, but he cannot place any faces or any names..." But then miraculously remembers that...YES HE DID. HE SAW PHOTIOGRAPH AND HE WAS " always around the Lakefront area fishing " So he had seen 'this man' regularly around the fishing area? Which man Steven? Was this person 'Lee'? And did he look just like the historic Oswald? btw what does the following mean, is it the cult's new language? Tj^'p^r^y.1 However, LOUSTEAU sajd that this-CQulo not have (happened inl9&2 fagsauss as ha •asaambars it. it was in .61. fSajSjjZcaB ^^-h~r CHAMPQa siting ^^roUabsthatj. <"* 161 J)but that he knows this incident could not have been in October or November of 1962 because JOE CRONIN was not It actually makes a lot more sense than most of your posts Steven: consider that. GO TO THE BAYLOR UNIVERSITY ARMSTRONG FILES. link >>> http://digitalcollec...id/41827/rec/3 You will see Oct 15,1959-June 11,1962 then CLICK ON THE DOWNLOAD BUTTON BOX on the right. YOU WILL DOWN LOAD A PDF FILE (41810 pdf). After download you will see COVER SHEET BOX 16 Notebook 2 TAB 79 Charles Noto. GO TO Pages 9,11,12,14 and 16 DAVID LOUSTEAU - INTERVIEW WITH As you remember from our interview with CHUCK, NOTO, Mr. NOTO stated that around October of November of 1962 he arrested 2 men on the Lakefront, one of whom was supposed to be LEE HARVEY OSWALD. He gauged his time in regard to the fact that MARCEL CHAMPON was working late during the time because they were trying to "knock off" a Mr. JOSEPH CRONIN. Mr. LOUSTEAU also said that he can recall the particular incident that NOTO was talking about, but he cannot place any faces or any names. He did take a look at the photograph and said that this man is always around the Lakefront area fishing; that he has talked to him on several occasion; ...but that he knovs this incident could not have been in Octobber or November of 1962 because JOE CRONIN was .not working for the Levee Board at that time. As the date of Mr. CRONIN's departure from the Levee Board seemed to be pertinent to the situation, especially to Mr. CRONIN"s presence in the Levee Eoard Police Station late at nioht, I contacted Miss Teal at the main office of the Orleans Levee'Board and ascertained that_Mr. JOSEPH CRONIN was dismissed from the Orleans Levee Board in Mav of 1962. You will recall "that OSWALD did not get into the United States until June 10, 1962 when he arrived in Dallas from Russia. +++++++++++++++++ PHOTO OSWALD >>> THIS IS PART OF GARRISON INVESTIGATION OF JFK ASSASSINATION AND LAST SENTENCE GIVES THE CONTEXT THATS ITS AN OSWALD PROBLEM WHICH GARRISON ADDRESSED AS "impersonators" ,gaal (copy problems via paste and Baylor photo file) LEE in New Orleans Safe House working electronics game (fishing a lot ) LEE in Dallas at Diceman Apt with Ruby. //GAAL see link http://educationforu...=21547&p=297203

GO TO THE BAYLOR UNIVERSITY ARMSTRONG FILES. link >>> http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/po-arm/id/41827/rec/3%20 You will see Oct 15,1959-June 11,1962 then CLICK ON THE DOWNLOAD BUTTON BOX on the right. YOU WILL DOWN LOAD A PDF FILE (41810 pdf). After download you will see COVER SHEET BOX 16 Notebook 2 TAB 79 Charles Noto. GO TO Pages 9,11,12,14 and 16 HAD TO BE THEN 1961 "Mr. LOUSTEAU also said that he can recall the particular incident that NOTO was talking about, but he cannot place any faces or any names. He did take a look at the photograph and said that this man is always around the Lakefront area fishing; that he has talked to him on several occasion; that he has seen him abound a panel truck with a television rgpriir sign on it which apo^rTnTly^w-Ei-3o^e by an individual and not by a professional ^Tj^'p^r^y.1 However, LOUSTEAU sajd that this-CQulo not have (happened inl9&2 fagsauss as ha •asaambars it. it was in .61. fSajSjjZcaB ^^-h~r CHAMPQa siting ^^roUabsthatj. <"* 161 J)but that he knows this incident could not have been in October or November of 1962 because JOE CRONIN was not working for the Levee Board " And did Noto or Loustreau ever say if this person calling himself LHO looked anything like the historic Oswald? There's a question you will avoid at all costs... // LAVERICK QUOTE ########################################### YES HE DID. HE SAW PHOTIOGRAPH AND HE WAS " always around the Lakefront area fishing " LEE in New Orleans Safe House working electronics game (fishing a lot ) LEE in Dallas at Diceman Apt with Ruby. //GAAL see link http://educationforu...=21547&p=297203 avoiding zero ,gaal Gaal: "...Mr. LOUSTEAU also said that he can recall the particular incident that NOTO was talking about, but he cannot place any faces or any names..." But then miraculously remembers that...YES HE DID. HE SAW PHOTIOGRAPH AND HE WAS " always around the Lakefront area fishing " So he had seen 'this man' regularly around the fishing area? Which man Steven? Was this person 'Lee'? And did he look just like the historic Oswald? btw what does the following mean, is it the cult's new language? Tj^'p^r^y.1 However, LOUSTEAU sajd that this-CQulo not have (happened inl9&2 fagsauss as ha •asaambars it. it was in .61. fSajSjjZcaB ^^-h~r CHAMPQa siting ^^roUabsthatj. <"* 161 J)but that he knows this incident could not have been in October or November of 1962 because JOE CRONIN was not It actually makes a lot more sense than most of your posts Steven: consider that. DAVID LOUSTEAU - INTERVIEW WITH As you remember from our interview with CHUCK, NOTO, Mr. NOTO stated that around October of November of 1962 he arrested 2 men on the Lakefront, one of whom was supposed to be LEE HARVEY OSWALD. He gauged his time in regard to the fact that MARCEL CHAMPON was working late during the time because they were trying to "knock off" a Mr. JOSEPH CRONIN. Mr. LOUSTEAU also said that he can recall the particular incident that NOTO was talking about, but he cannot place any faces or any names. He did take a look at the photograph and said that this man is always around the Lakefront area fishing; that he has talked to him on several occasion; ...but that he knovs this incident could not have been in Octobber or November of 1962 because JOE CRONIN was .not working for the Levee Board at that time. As the date of Mr. CRONIN's departure from the Levee Board seemed to be pertinent to the situation, especially to Mr. CRONIN"s presence in the Levee Eoard Police Station late at nioht, I contacted Miss Teal at the main office of the Orleans Levee'Board and ascertained that_Mr. JOSEPH CRONIN was dismissed from the Orleans Levee Board in Mav of 1962. You will recall "that OSWALD did not get into the United States until June 10, 1962 when he arrived in Dallas from Russia. +++++++++++++++++ PHOTO OSWALD >>> THIS IS PART OF GARRISON INVESTIGATION OF JFK ASSASSINATION AND LAST SENTENCE GIVES THE CONTEXT THATS ITS AN OSWALD PROBLEM WHICH GARRISON ADDRESSED AS "impersonators" ,gaal (copy problems via paste and Baylor photo file)

LEE ?? Posted 16 August 2015 - 02:23 PM , (Gaal) Gee you probably didn't understand. gaal Bill Simpich ==================== Banister was good at this kind of thing -- he had people such as his associate Don Campbell and staffer Tommy Baumler working to infiltrate left-wing college groups. [31] Someone had to spy on the New Orleans Council for Peaceful Alternatives, who invited troublemakers like Father Phil Berrigan to speak on the immorality of nuclear weapons. In May, Oswald started off by leaving FPCC fliers at the Tulane Library, a good way to flush out pro-Castro types that might try to infiltrate anti-communist groups. [32] In June, he was leafleting sailors at the USS Wasp. Using the waterfront was second nature for an ex-Marine like Oswald. No surprise that FPCC agitation at the harbor resulted in the circulation of the Oswald legend throughout military intelligence. The DRE had been thoroughly penetrated by Carlos Bringuier's relative Jorge, and was considered totally insecure by the CIA The DRE took the CIA's money but were difficult to work with. This group was young, motivated, and very dangerous. In August 1962, they shelled government buildings in Havana and then bragged about it, while Castro was infuriated at this latest act of terrorism and attempted assassination. They attracted the attention of the Cuban's government's DGI. The role of the DGI in Cuba was to penetrate counter-revolutionary organizations. Counterintelligence analyst Ray Rocca made it very clear years later that he agreed that the DRE was heavily infiltrated by Cuban government DGI agents by 1962. Several CIA officers had also concluded that the DRE was totally insecure. Officer Calvin Thomas was concerned that the DRE might have even played a role in killing Kennedy. Jorge Bringuier was the brother-in-law of New Orleans DRE leader Carlos Bringuier. (While DRE official Juan Salvat describes him as nephew, Carlos says brother-in-law.) Jorge Bringuier disgraced the family by becoming a Castro agent and betraying the Cuban wing of the DRE. After he became national coordinator in Cuba in 1962, just about all of the Cuban DRE members were arrested. There's a contemporaneous memo about this betrayal in early 1963. Jorge was pitched to defect on 12/6/63, and he sent a telegram to his mother on 12/13 saying that he was "out" and with the Americans. Jorge was a CIA agent by 1968. In late July, ten Cuban exiles traveled from Miami to New Orleans and joined an anti-Castro training camp north of New Orleans. This training camp was on the land of Michael McLaney, a friend of "gamblers in Cuba", and the new arrivals at the camp had obtained some dynamite and were planning to bomb Cuban oil refineries. The leader of the dynamite procurement was Victor Espinosa Hernandez. Espinosa's group asked New Orleans DRE leader Carlos Bringuier to assist them. Bringuier had worked for some time in the same building as Banister, serving as the press and propaganda secretary of the aforementioned CRC. On July 31, the FBI swooped into a home in the New Orleans area and seized a ton of dynamite, bomb casings, napalm material and other devices. Eleven people were arrested. Bringuier escaped arrest. Why? It looks like US intelligence forces wanted a more subtle approach to test Bringuier's loyalties. Oswald Came to Center Stage After the Arms Seizure As An Asset This arms seizure by the FBI triggered Oswald to go public, who had been working with Banister doing some quiet leafleting on behalf of the FPCC. At a minimum, Oswald was being used as an asset, defined by the House Select Committe on Assassinations as "anyone used in an operation or project, whether or not that (person) is aware that he is being used". The CIA referred to a person who did not know that he had done anything to help the CIA as an "unwilling co-optee". Whether he knew it or not, Oswald was being used as a counter-intelligence asset. 1. The main goal was to make the FPCC look bad. 2. Incidentally, an anti-FPCC operation would divert public attention from the recent terrorist plans of the anti-Castro underground. This vigilante plan to napalm Cuba did not look good. 3. Along the way, it made sense to try to determine if Carlos Bringuier might be pro-Castro, or if Jorge Bringuier could be brought back into the anti-Castro fold. Carlos may have been used by those using Oswald. === OH yeah WINK ,gaal ================ The CIA examined Celso Hernandez as a Castro penetration agent There is an intriguing report of FPCC member Oswald being arrested with Celso Hernandez in New Orleans in late 1962 (see pp. 6-7, (follow-up at pp. 16-18) The ID of Hernandez was made years later and is admittedly shaky. The ID of Oswald is more substantive, as he id'd himself to the police as an FPCC member - but he was living in the Dallas area. The story is that the two men were picked up at the lakefront in Celso's work truck, owned by an electronics firm that was Celso's employer. The most important thing is that right about this time, Bill Harvey - who worked both the wiretapping side and the Cuban beat for the CIA during 1962 - was tipped off on 10/1/62 that Celso Hernandez might be a communist. This kicked off an investigation that revealed in the autumn of 1963 that there was a left-wing Celso and a right-wing Celso, and a brother and sister who couldn't agree on who was who. [33] Oswald and Celso Hernandez were arrested together again in August 1963. What we do know is that throughout this era, Hernandez was under close scrutiny as a possible pro-Castro infiltrator. Below, we see Oswald's interactions with Carlos and Celso. == [33] Bill Harvey - who worked both the wiretapping side and the Cuban beat for the CIA during 1962 - was tipped off on 10/1/62 that Celso Hernandez might be a communist: For the 1962 Oswald-Hernandez arrest, see memo from investigator John Volz to DA Jim Garrison, 3/1/67, pp. 6-7, (follow-up at pp. 16-18) RIF# 180-10085-10407. http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/po-arm/id/41827/rec/3 ======= "PTC's (paranoid conspiracy theorists) seem to like to use CAPS for EMPHASIS.)" This guys seems to know you personally, Steve! http://skepdic.com/illuminati.html This guys seems to know you personally, Steve! http://skepdic.com/illuminati.html // PARKER QUOTE AND LINK ======================================= Insult after insult and the moderators do nothing. Little education I see here.// gaal

bumped GO TO THE BAYLOR UNIVERSITY ARMSTRONG FILES. link >>> http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/po-arm/id/41827/rec/3%20 You will see Oct 15,1959-June 11,1962 then CLICK ON THE DOWNLOAD BUTTON BOX on the right. YOU WILL DOWN LOAD A PDF FILE (41810 pdf). After download you will see COVER SHEET BOX 16 Notebook 2 TAB 79 Charles Noto. GO TO Pages 9,11,12,14 and 16 HAD TO BE THEN 1961 "Mr. LOUSTEAU also said that he can recall the particular incident that NOTO was talking about, but he cannot place any faces or any names. He did take a look at the photograph and said that this man is always around the Lakefront area fishing; that he has talked to him on several occasion; that he has seen him abound a panel truck with a television rgpriir sign on it which apo^rTnTly^w-Ei-3o^e by an individual and not by a professional ^Tj^'p^r^y.1 However, LOUSTEAU sajd that this-CQulo not have (happened inl9&2 fagsauss as ha •asaambars it. it was in .61. fSajSjjZcaB ^^-h~r CHAMPQa siting ^^roUabsthatj. <"* 161 J)but that he knows this incident could not have been in October or November of 1962 because JOE CRONIN was not working for the Levee Board " And did Noto or Loustreau ever say if this person calling himself LHO looked anything like the historic Oswald? There's a question you will avoid at all costs... // LAVERICK QUOTE ########################################### YES HE DID. HE SAW PHOTIOGRAPH AND HE WAS " always around the Lakefront area fishing " LEE in New Orleans Safe House working electronics game (fishing a lot ) LEE in Dallas at Diceman Apt with Ruby. //GAAL see link http://educationforu...=21547&p=297203 avoiding zero ,gaal

GO TO THE BAYLOR UNIVERSITY ARMSTRONG FILES. link >>> http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/po-arm/id/41827/rec/3%20 You will see Oct 15,1959-June 11,1962 then CLICK ON THE DOWNLOAD BUTTON BOX on the right. YOU WILL DOWN LOAD A PDF FILE (41810 pdf). After download you will see COVER SHEET BOX 16 Notebook 2 TAB 79 Charles Noto. GO TO Pages 9,11,12,14 and 16 HAD TO BE THEN 1961 "Mr. LOUSTEAU also said that he can recall the particular incident that NOTO was talking about, but he cannot place any faces or any names. He did take a look at the photograph and said that this man is always around the Lakefront area fishing; that he has talked to him on several occasion; that he has seen him abound a panel truck with a television rgpriir sign on it which apo^rTnTly^w-Ei-3o^e by an individual and not by a professional ^Tj^'p^r^y.1 However, LOUSTEAU sajd that this-CQulo not have (happened inl9&2 fagsauss as ha •asaambars it. it was in .61. fSajSjjZcaB ^^-h~r CHAMPQa siting ^^roUabsthatj. <"* 161 J)but that he knows this incident could not have been in October or November of 1962 because JOE CRONIN was not working for the Levee Board " And did Noto or Loustreau ever say if this person calling himself LHO looked anything like the historic Oswald? There's a question you will avoid at all costs... // LAVERICK QUOTE ########################################### YES HE DID. HE SAW PHOTIOGRAPH AND HE WAS " always around the Lakefront area fishing " LEE in New Orleans Safe House working electronics game (fishing a lot ) LEE in Dallas at Diceman Apt with Ruby. //GAAL see link http://educationforu...=21547&p=297203 avoiding zero ,gaal

Russ Baker link >>>> http://whowhatwhy.org/2013/10/14/bush-and-the-jfk-hit-part-5-the-mysterious-mr-de-mohrenschildt/ "The White Russian émigrés in the United States were motivated by both ideology and economics to serve as shock troops in the growing cold war conflict being managed by Prescott’s friends and associates. No one understood this better than Allen Dulles, the Wall Street lawyer, diplomat, and spy-master-in ascension. Even in the period between the two world wars, Dulles was already molding Russian émigrés into intelligence operatives. He moved back and forth between government service and Wall Street lawyering with the firm Sullivan and Cromwell, whose clients included United Fruit and Brown Brothers Harriman. The latter was at that time led by Averell and Roland Harriman and Prescott Bush." ============== yes these are the DALLAS CEO's . ,gaal = by Herbert Parmet >> link >> http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/1811 "George Herbert (Bert) Walker’s relationship with Averell Harriman went back to 1919, reported Buchanan, when both went to Paris to set up "the German branch of their banking and investment operations, which were largely based on critical war resources such as steel and coal." .....Allegations involving the “father” of what has become the Bush dynasty relate to his association with Brown Harriman and Company, the Wall Street investment banking firm, which evolved from a 1931 merger of W. A. Harriman and Company and Brown Brothers, which was brought together by George Herbert Walker, president of the former, and his son-in-law, Prescott.The younger Bush, by then, was one of the seven directors of Brown Brothers Harriman, a board that included W. Averell Harriman and his brother Roland. - See more at: http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/1811#sthash.mqIhiw4D.dpuf "- See more at: http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/1811#sthash.1BGb7V2E.dpuf

I apologise profusely for making boo boo and naming NOTO instead of Lousteau......Seppuku is my only option... only . ,gaal

“As you remember from our interview with CHUCK NOTO, Mr. NOTO stated that around October of November of 1962 he arrested 2 men on the Lakefront, one of whom was supposed to be LEE HARVEY OSWALD”. Memo from Garrison to researcher Lynn Loisel on NOTO’s further recollections “…not attempt to duplicate here because he (Noto) is giving us a longer statement and these added details confirm in my mind that this was LEE HARVEY OSWALD whom he saw on the lakefront. There is a problem about the year however he remembers it as probably 1962 but possibly 1963” ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] QUOTE LAVERICK =============================== Yes Garrison does not want to get into imposter game.//GAAL =============== Sgt, Loustreau who said 61 and Noto said he gaged the tyime as it was when they were truying to knock off Joseph CRONIN Joseph Cronin was already fired by May 1962 SEE CLICK THE BLUE 1962 above and you will be taken to the BAYLOR UNIVERSITY ARMSTRONG FILES.You will see Oct 15,1959-June 11,1962 then CLICK ON THE DOWNLOAD BUTTON BOX on the right. YOU WILL DOWN LOAD A PDF FILE (41810 pdf). After download you will see COVER SHEET BOX 16 Notebook 2 TAB 79 Charles Noto. GO TO Pages 9,11,12,14 and 16 HAD TO BE THEN 1961 LEE in New Orleans Safe House working electronics game LEE in Dallas at Diceman Apt with Ruby. //GAAL

Smooth movement, Steven! Actually one of your more coherent posts. Nicely done. Feel better now? --Tommy MUCH BETTER !! THANKS !!!! See familiar JFK assassination names below. ,gaal +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Newman, John. Oswald and the CIA = see link http://jfkcountercoup2.blogspot.com/2013/05/newman-on-fpcc.html = "In early 1961, eleven weeks before the Bay of Pigs invasion, the CIA seized an opportunity to become more actively involved in running operations against the FPCC. CIA Security Office and Western Hemisphere elements identified an Agency employee who knew Court Wood, an American student just returned from Cuba under the sponsorship of the FPCC. This opportunity to surveil Curt Wood, which developed at the end of January, was irresistible in the judgment of the person in the CIA’s Security Research Service (SRS) of the Security Office who conceived and authorized the operation. That person was James McCord, the same James McCord who would later become embroiled in the scandal during the Nixon Presidency. On February 1, 1961, McCord met with people from Western Hemisphere Division to discuss the "case" of an Agency employee who happened to be Court Wood’s neighbor and former high school classmate. At issue was whether to use this employee operationally to extract information from Wood. The employee, conveniently, worked in WH/4, the very branch that McCord wanted to run the illegal domestic operation he had in mind. The memo of record for this meeting states the following: On this date Subject’s case was coordinated with Mr. McCord of SRS in connection with Subject’s operational use within the US byWH/4/Propaganda. The implications of a CI operation with[in] the US by this Agency and the possibility of Subject might come to the attention of the FBI through association with Court Wood were discussed. Mr. McCord expressed the opinion that it was not necessary to advise the FBI of the operation at this time. However, he wishes to review the case in a month. The file of the Subject, along with that of the WH man who is supervising the operation (David Atlee Phillips #40695) will be pended [suspended] for the attention of Mr. McCord on 1 March 1961."

It is all meaningless gibberish! You wrote... in late 1962 (see pp. 6-7, (follow-up at pp. 16-18) The ID of Hernandez was made years later and is admittedly shaky. The ID of Oswald is more substantive, as he id'd himself to the police as an FPCC member - but he was living in the Dallas area. So? What does this prove? I asked for proof of 'Lee's' whereabouts during the time 'Harvey' was in Russia and you send me that???? // Laverick quote ================================================================================= CLICK THE BLUE 1962 above and you will be taken to the BAYLOR UNIVERSITY ARMSTRONG FILES. You will see Oct 15,1959-June 11,1962 then CLICK ON THE DOWNLOAD BUTTON BOX on the right. YOU WILL DOWN LOAD A PDF FILE (41810 pdf). After download you will see COVER SHEET BOX 16 Notebook 2 TAB 79 Charles Noto. GO TO Pages 9,11,12,14 and 16. see interviews by Sciambra of Noto ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ NOTO IS SURE THE ARRESTS HAPPENED IN 1961 ...when Harvey is in RUSSIA. thanks gaal

So let me get this right. 'Lee' was probably under house arrest for two and half years in a CIA safe house? That's it? That's your proof that 'Lee' was in the USA whilst 'Harvey' was in Russia? That's fine. It's un-provable of course. And it does raise the further question of how there could have been any "sightings" of him if he were tucked neatly away in a safe house PRECISELY so he doesn't get spotted. Did he escape on those occasions? A bit of teenage rebellion? It's common. Nearly all 19yr old doppelgangers in waiting regularly go through that "I want to tell the world who I really am" moments. Thankfully that has left a trail that 'proves' beyond all doubt there were two Oswalds. One in Russia and the other an habitual escapee from a CIA run Dallas safe-house. Probably... You've nailed it and I apologise profusely. How stupid are people for not getting this? Look, for you sceptics and hit squad minions, how could it be that we have one Lee Harvey Oswald in Russia, and yet, we may have the other in an unknown safe house in the USA. What more proof of a doppelganger programme do you guys want? PS... Did no one wonder where 'Lee' had got to? Did anyone contact the authorities to report a missing person? POSTED THIS TWICE TO ANSWER YOU ., gaal http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=22151&p=313282

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There is no problem. Santa Ana was attached to and under the command of El Toro. Because of that, anyone talking about El Toro could be talking about El Toro itself, Santa Ana - or both. The opposite does not apply. If Santa Ana is mentioned, it can only be reference to Santa Ana. That you guys see a problem here says it all about your willingness to see whatever you want to see. PROBLEM ,gaal Per Armstrong , 'the unit diaries from El Toro from the first half of 1959 have disappeared' link >>> http://harveyandlee.net/Marines/Marines.html

Without this you have nothing! Except lots and lots of tin-foil hats...// LAVERICK INSULT QUOTE FROM ABOVE POST +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Gaal link to info below >> http://www.covertboo...and-the-family/ "Marion Pettie was the leader of "The Finders" cult. Described as a tall, well-built southern gentleman, Pettie maintained a large property in Culpepper Virginia and the locations that were raided in Washington D.C. He has admitted that his wife had worked for the CIA and that his son flew for the CIA airline "Air America", long known for it’s drug-trafficking exploits in Southeast Asia. In an excellent interview in the Washington "City Paper", Pettie described his role as "Game Caller". He instructed his followers to live by the day, hour, minute. He would send them on "projects", often to foreign countries. All the Finders men dressed like FBI agents, in conservative dark suits. Not exactly your typical hippie-cult attire. At the dawn of the computer era, Pettie recruited a talented computer engineer who trained members of The Finders in computer technology. They went on to run a project for – you guessed it, The CIA. Pettie openly admits that he ran a safe house for members of intelligence agencies, from The Office of Navel Intelligence, to the OSS, to any spook that needed a place to hang out. He claims he would "study them". The children that were found in the park with the "well-dressed men" were returned to their mothers and the cult. The investigation was dropped." ================================================================== children made into spies, . gaal

bumped >>>> the FINDERS who tried to recruit the maker of NAMEBASE Jim Hargrove, on 24 Aug 2015 - 7:40 PM, said: TOP 10 REASONS TO BELIEVE IN HARVEY AND LEE 10. The IMPOSSIBLE 1953 school scenario: Harvey at Youth House for truancy followed by Beauregard JHS in New Orleans while Lee has good attendance both semesters at PS 44 in NYC. 9. John Pic's inability to recognize clear photographs of his own brother. 8. The refusal of the Social Security Administration to corroborate the official story of "Oswald's" pre-1962 income, offering instead "Copies of three pages of the Warren Commission Report regarding employment of Lee Harvey Oswald prior to service in the Marine Corps." 7. The Marine Corps records are a gold mine: my favorite chronicles Harvey Oswald's trip to Formosa (Taiwan) while Lee was being treated for VD in Japan. 6. The Bolton Ford incident while Harvey was in Russia. 5. Marita Lorenz's secret testimony describing Lee Oswald with anti-Castro operatives in Miami and the Everglades while Harvey was in Russia. 4. Lee Oswald visiting the Texas Employment Commission, filling out forms and taking tests, while Harvey was in Russia. 3. The impossible answer(s) to the simple questions: Could Lee Harvey Oswald drive a car? Did he have a drivers license? 2. The well documented appearance of Lee Oswald in the balcony of the Texas Theater soon after the murder of J.D. Tippit with the simultaneous arrest of Harvey Oswald on the main floor of the same theater. 1. The behavior of the FBI in the first 48 hours of the "investigation," during which the Bureau confiscated many of "Lee Harvey Oswald's" school records and employment histories. Six months later, the Bureau decided to test for fingerprints on boxes in the so-called "sniper's nest." Jim, But the reason gullible True Believers like you swallow the H & L Dogma "hook, line, and sinker" is twofold: 1 ) It's a perfect example of the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy, and 2 ) as such it facilitates and encourages your continuing application of The Clustering Illusion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_sharpshooter_fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clustering_illusion --Tommy Tommy.. Please tell the truth. HAVE YOU ACTUALLY READ HARVEY & LEE? Jim Russian Spy Ring Aimed to Make Children Agents http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10000872396390444097904577537044185191340 =================================================================== Jim Graves seems to have never read book. gaal ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PARKER Have you read the article? The "children" turns out to be one. And he was 20. And his parents deny they tried to recruit saying probably quite rightly, it would have been too risky. The clincher that the story is BS is that they claim the 20 year old stood up and saluted "Mother Russia" when the parents tried to get him to join them. That is just too corny for words. You guys a are a crack up. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GAAL Have you read the article? planned to recruit children, see link below . ,gaal (BS NO) ========================== http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10000872396390444097904577537044185191340 By Devlin Barrett Updated July 31, 2012 4:13 p.m. ET "A Russian spy ring busted in the U.S. two years ago planned to recruit members' children to become agents, and one had already agreed to his parents' request, according to current and former U.S. officials." ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Gaal link to info below >> http://www.covertbookreport.com/spy-kids-the-russians-the-finders-and-the-family/ ================================================================================================= "It seems quite possible that nearly every country in the world may have some similar operation going on – with the intent of penetrating various government agencies. But things get weirder and weirder. Here’s a piece I wrote on "The Finders" in 2010: Did The Finders Create a "Bourne Identity"? Suppose you have a thirty-year cult, run by a southern eccentric with ties to the Central Intelligence Agency. Suppose that cult raised children in austere surroundings combined with advanced education, perhaps to be used by said intelligence agency? Suppose that cult was investigated for child abuse/neglect but the investigation was shut down for "National Security" reasons? Sound like something out of a movie? Young "Jason Bournes" being created, nurtured and trained for future use? Well, something like that seems to have happened in "The Finders" cult. The unraveling of "The Finders" case brought to the forefront many long-rumored stories about possible child trafficking as well as those about children being trained for use as spies and assassins. In February 1987, a tip to the police led to the arrest of two "well dressed men" in a park in Tallahassee Florida. The men appeared to be "supervising" a group of six disheveled and hungry children. The men, who were based out of Washington D.C., were charged with child abuse. The D.C. police raided a house and warehouse, where they found many items that implicated "The Finders" cult in international intrigue and what appears to be ritual sacrifice of animals. The children were temporarily moved to an undisclosed location under armed guard due to threats to authorities. This all sounds like typical internet rumor-mongering, except the story was carried by The New York Times and U.S. News And World Report. The smoking gun was a report by U.S. Customs agent Ramon Martinez. Customs was called in to investigate a possible link to child pornography or child trafficking, and the Martinez document is shocking. There were indeed photos of many children, some naked. This in itself is not surprising due to the commune-type upbringing of The Finders. There were also photos of members in white robes, with the children, in what appears to be ritual sacrifice of goats. The Finders claim it was merely typical harvesting of animals on a farm, but the children actively participated in the disembowelment. At the time of the arrest, despite the "well dressed" appearance of the adult men, the children seemed to have no knowledge of such things as electricity and hot running water. In a strange twist, they seemed highly educated. Details of what was found in the warehouse and the customs report can be read in this report by Dave McGowan. Other items seized from the finders included Telex messages about obtaining children from Hong Kong, international money transfers, and this, from the Martinez report: "Further inspection of the premises disclosed numerous files relating to activities of the organization in different parts of the world. Locations I observed are as follows: London, Germany, the Bahamas, Japan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Africa, Costa Rica, and ‘Europe.’ There was also a file identified as ‘Palestinian.’ Other files were identified by member name or ‘project’ name. The projects appearing to be operated for commercial purposes under front names for the Finders. There was one file entitled ‘Pentagon Break-In,’ and others referring to members operating in foreign countries". Everything in this case points to a possible prosecution for child abuse, but the investigation was shut down for National Security reasons. Marion Pettie was the leader of "The Finders" cult. Described as a tall, well-built southern gentleman, Pettie maintained a large property in Culpepper Virginia and the locations that were raided in Washington D.C. He has admitted that his wife had worked for the CIA and that his son flew for the CIA airline "Air America", long known for it’s drug-trafficking exploits in Southeast Asia. In an excellent interview in the Washington "City Paper", Pettie described his role as "Game Caller". He instructed his followers to live by the day, hour, minute. He would send them on "projects", often to foreign countries. All the Finders men dressed like FBI agents, in conservative dark suits. Not exactly your typical hippie-cult attire. At the dawn of the computer era, Pettie recruited a talented computer engineer who trained members of The Finders in computer technology. They went on to run a project for – you guessed it, The CIA. Pettie openly admits that he ran a safe house for members of intelligence agencies, from The Office of Navel Intelligence, to the OSS, to any spook that needed a place to hang out. He claims he would "study them". The children that were found in the park with the "well-dressed men" were returned to their mothers and the cult. The investigation was dropped. The most recent information I could research on The Finders was a blog post by a guy named Michael Phillips. Phillips claims to have met The Finders in San Francisco in the 1970’s. Phillips respects the group, and thinks they had innovative ideas. Several Finders-type comments followed his blog post, one saying that Pettie and other founding members were now dead, and thanked him for the kind words. Phillips had just proof-read a 550-page manuscript of a book on the finders by member Robert "Tobe" Terrell. Another questionable report on a New Zealand Indymedia blog said that The Finders had relocated to Taiwan. I don’t know about that. ——– We will never know the true story of "The Finders", what they were training the children for, or the source of their wealth. The Washington "City Paper" article says that some former members were suing Pettie and the remaining estate of the cult. The articles I researched are split into at least three categories. The right-wing writers focus on Satanic ritual abuse. The left side suspects the children may have been programed to be spies or assassins. People like the blogger Phillips suggest they were just elaborate role-playing adventurers. It is well known that intelligence agencies run programs resembling The Finders, such as the Kool-Aid massacres in Jonestown. It’s easy to pull a Sirhan-Sirhan or Lee Harvey Oswald out of these groups when they need one. But let’s close with this chilling conclusion to the report of U.S. Customs officer Martinez: "On April 2, 1987, I arrived at MPD at approximately 9:00 a.m. Detective Bradley was not available. I spoke to a third party who was willing to discuss the case with me on a strictly ‘off the record’ basis. "I was advised that all the passport data had been turned over to the State Department for their investigation. The State Department in turn, advised the MPD that all travel and use of the passports by the holders of the passports was within the law and no action would be taken. This included travel to Moscow, North Korea, and North Vietnam from the late 1950s to mid 1970s. "The individual further advised me of circumstances which indicated that the investigation into the activity of the Finders had become a CIA internal matter. The MPD report has been classified SECRET and was not available for review. I was advised that the FBI had withdrawn from the investigation several weeks prior and that the FBI Foreign Counter Intelligence Division had directed MPD not to advise the FBI Washington Field Office of anything that had transpired. "No further information will be available. No further action will be taken." " ———————————————– UPDATE: The spy aged EIGHT: How American forces recruited a young boy to plant a chip on his stepfather – an Al Qaeda target in Yemen – so they could kill him in a drone strikeNew allegations claim that an 8-year-old Yemeni boy who was abandoned by his biological family was then roped back into their clutches The boy’s biological father works for the Yemeni Republican Guard, which helps U.S. forces, and they asked have an al Qaeda operative located That operative had been added to the U.S. ‘kill list’ The Republican Guard knew that one of their officer’s children had been taken in by that target, Adnan al-Qadhi, so they called the biological father and asked him to have his son place the chip on the surrogate father The boy complied and days later, Qadhi was killed in a drone strike By Daily Mail Reporter PUBLISHED: 18:21 EST, 15 August 2013 | UPDATED: 09:10 EST, 16 August 2013

bumped LEE ?? Posted 16 August 2015 - 02:23 PM , (Gaal) Gee you probably didn't understand. gaal Bill Simpich ==================== Banister was good at this kind of thing -- he had people such as his associate Don Campbell and staffer Tommy Baumler working to infiltrate left-wing college groups. [31] Someone had to spy on the New Orleans Council for Peaceful Alternatives, who invited troublemakers like Father Phil Berrigan to speak on the immorality of nuclear weapons. In May, Oswald started off by leaving FPCC fliers at the Tulane Library, a good way to flush out pro-Castro types that might try to infiltrate anti-communist groups. [32] In June, he was leafleting sailors at the USS Wasp. Using the waterfront was second nature for an ex-Marine like Oswald. No surprise that FPCC agitation at the harbor resulted in the circulation of the Oswald legend throughout military intelligence. The DRE had been thoroughly penetrated by Carlos Bringuier's relative Jorge, and was considered totally insecure by the CIA The DRE took the CIA's money but were difficult to work with. This group was young, motivated, and very dangerous. In August 1962, they shelled government buildings in Havana and then bragged about it, while Castro was infuriated at this latest act of terrorism and attempted assassination. They attracted the attention of the Cuban's government's DGI. The role of the DGI in Cuba was to penetrate counter-revolutionary organizations. Counterintelligence analyst Ray Rocca made it very clear years later that he agreed that the DRE was heavily infiltrated by Cuban government DGI agents by 1962. Several CIA officers had also concluded that the DRE was totally insecure. Officer Calvin Thomas was concerned that the DRE might have even played a role in killing Kennedy. Jorge Bringuier was the brother-in-law of New Orleans DRE leader Carlos Bringuier. (While DRE official Juan Salvat describes him as nephew, Carlos says brother-in-law.) Jorge Bringuier disgraced the family by becoming a Castro agent and betraying the Cuban wing of the DRE. After he became national coordinator in Cuba in 1962, just about all of the Cuban DRE members were arrested. There's a contemporaneous memo about this betrayal in early 1963. Jorge was pitched to defect on 12/6/63, and he sent a telegram to his mother on 12/13 saying that he was "out" and with the Americans. Jorge was a CIA agent by 1968. In late July, ten Cuban exiles traveled from Miami to New Orleans and joined an anti-Castro training camp north of New Orleans. This training camp was on the land of Michael McLaney, a friend of "gamblers in Cuba", and the new arrivals at the camp had obtained some dynamite and were planning to bomb Cuban oil refineries. The leader of the dynamite procurement was Victor Espinosa Hernandez. Espinosa's group asked New Orleans DRE leader Carlos Bringuier to assist them. Bringuier had worked for some time in the same building as Banister, serving as the press and propaganda secretary of the aforementioned CRC. On July 31, the FBI swooped into a home in the New Orleans area and seized a ton of dynamite, bomb casings, napalm material and other devices. Eleven people were arrested. Bringuier escaped arrest. Why? It looks like US intelligence forces wanted a more subtle approach to test Bringuier's loyalties. Oswald Came to Center Stage After the Arms Seizure As An Asset This arms seizure by the FBI triggered Oswald to go public, who had been working with Banister doing some quiet leafleting on behalf of the FPCC. At a minimum, Oswald was being used as an asset, defined by the House Select Committe on Assassinations as "anyone used in an operation or project, whether or not that (person) is aware that he is being used". The CIA referred to a person who did not know that he had done anything to help the CIA as an "unwilling co-optee". Whether he knew it or not, Oswald was being used as a counter-intelligence asset. 1. The main goal was to make the FPCC look bad. 2. Incidentally, an anti-FPCC operation would divert public attention from the recent terrorist plans of the anti-Castro underground. This vigilante plan to napalm Cuba did not look good. 3. Along the way, it made sense to try to determine if Carlos Bringuier might be pro-Castro, or if Jorge Bringuier could be brought back into the anti-Castro fold. Carlos may have been used by those using Oswald. === OH yeah WINK ,gaal ================ The CIA examined Celso Hernandez as a Castro penetration agent There is an intriguing report of FPCC member Oswald being arrested with Celso Hernandez in New Orleans in late 1962 (see pp. 6-7, (follow-up at pp. 16-18) The ID of Hernandez was made years later and is admittedly shaky. The ID of Oswald is more substantive, as he id'd himself to the police as an FPCC member - but he was living in the Dallas area. The story is that the two men were picked up at the lakefront in Celso's work truck, owned by an electronics firm that was Celso's employer. The most important thing is that right about this time, Bill Harvey - who worked both the wiretapping side and the Cuban beat for the CIA during 1962 - was tipped off on 10/1/62 that Celso Hernandez might be a communist. This kicked off an investigation that revealed in the autumn of 1963 that there was a left-wing Celso and a right-wing Celso, and a brother and sister who couldn't agree on who was who. [33] Oswald and Celso Hernandez were arrested together again in August 1963. What we do know is that throughout this era, Hernandez was under close scrutiny as a possible pro-Castro infiltrator. Below, we see Oswald's interactions with Carlos and Celso. == [33] Bill Harvey - who worked both the wiretapping side and the Cuban beat for the CIA during 1962 - was tipped off on 10/1/62 that Celso Hernandez might be a communist: For the 1962 Oswald-Hernandez arrest, see memo from investigator John Volz to DA Jim Garrison, 3/1/67, pp. 6-7, (follow-up at pp. 16-18) RIF# 180-10085-10407. http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/po-arm/id/41827/rec/3 =======

see >>> http://americanfreepress.net/?p=20355 Reporter Admits Most Media Work for CIA, MI6, Mossad = October 26, 2014 AFP • War correspondent reveals dirty secrets of mainstream media: journalists are bribed to pry, lie and spy. By Ronald L. Ray — AMERICAN FREE PRESS frequently exposes the noxious collaborators with tyranny who operate the mainstream media. Now a courageous German former journalist, Dr. Udo Ulfkotte, has written a powerful new bestselling book that exposes the rampant cooperation of the “Fourth Estate” with the world’s largest intelligence agencies, trans-Atlantic organizations, banks, corporations and billionaires, making it into a political “fifth column.” The book, Gekaufte Journalisten (literally, “Bought Journalists”), is not yet in English, but this writer interviewed Ulfkotte on October 17 to bring this newspaper’s readers his stunning revelations. Admitting first his own guilt of participating in the destructive underworld of journalism, Ulfkotte fearlessly names other collaborators in his latest work and calls for a return to a free and morally-upright press. The book has garnered worldwide interest, but the German journalistic establishment is giving it the “silent treatment”—and worse. Ulfkotte, 54, was raised in a devout Christian family and even educated at a religious school. During early adulthood, like many young people, he began investigating other beliefs. At the university in Freiburg in Breisgau he took an interest in law and Islamic studies. He became fluent in Arabic—important for his future, albeit unintended, career. During college in the 1980s, Ulfkotte also was recruited into the world of espionage. Prior to a particular semester break, when he hoped to visit Italy and meet young women, a professor asked if he would like to attend a two-week seminar in Bonn on the East-West conflict. This was during the Cold War in a divided Germany. Ulfkotte was not at all interested, but university professors in Germany were (and are) highly respected. It was difficult to refuse. He was promised that his travel would be paid for, as well as lodging and meals, and he would receive spending money into the bargain. For a young man from poor economic circumstances, this was too much. Relates Ulfkotte, “I suddenly felt this deep feeling inside me that I had ‘always’ wanted to go” to such a seminar. Such “innocent” beginnings were the first bribes, which would draw him ever deeper into a widespread network of corruption and spying, where no one considered such behavior immoral, but rather “accepted practice.” No one said, “I’m from the CIA,” or from the Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND)—the German intelligence service. But the seminar leaders sorted out “who was communist and who was pro-Western” among the young attendees. After further similar events, someone asked Ulfkotte if he would work for the BND—the last thing on his mind. But again, a professor—his doctoral advisor—pressured him to “think about it.” And once more, a poor boy found a free automobile and a good salary very attractive. Upon receiving his doctorate, Ulfkotte—who never studied journalism—was provided a job as a reporter for the leading conservative German newspaper, the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ), hired over hundreds of other applicants. He became a war correspondent in Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, Iran and much of the Middle East, and later an FAZ editor. Eventually, he did indeed meet agents of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), BND, Britain’s Secret Intelligence Service, commonly known as MI6 (Military Intelligence, Section 6), and Israel’s Mossad, who valued his ability to travel freely in countries largely closed to the West. His editors were knowing accomplices. Former Journalist Udo Ulfkotte in His Own Words “I’ve been a journalist for about 25 years, and I’ve been educated to lie, to betray—and not to tell the truth to the public. . . . The German and American media [is trying] to bring war to the people in Europe, to bring war to Russia. This is a point of no return, and I am going to stand up and say it is not right what I have done in the past, to manipulate people, to make propaganda against Russia, and it is not right what my colleagues do, and have done in the past, because they are bribed to betray the people not only in Germany, but all over Europe. . . . I am very fearful of a new war in Europe, and I don’t [want to see] this situation again. There are always people who push for war, and this is not only politicians, it is journalists too. We have betrayed our readers. . . . I’m fed up with this propaganda. We live in a banana republic [Germany], and not in a democratic country where we have press freedom.” — Udo Ulfkotte ======================= What is insidious, as Ulfkotte confesses, is that typically, intelligence agencies use “unofficial covers”—people working for the agency but not actually on its payroll as agents. It is a broad, loose network of “friends,” doing one another favors. Many are lead journalists from numerous countries. This informality provides plausible deniability for both sides, but it means an “unofficial cover,” as Ulfkotte became, is on his own if captured. The American reporter James Foley, allegedly executed by ISIS, found that out. Ulfkotte confirmed to this author that Foley did indeed work for various intelligence organizations, as this newspaper reported on last month. He also stated that if a journalist is accused of spying, such reports are almost always credible. We asked the former spy about the extent of recruitment of journalists into espionage. He replied, “Well, they don’t wear stickers on their foreheads,” but he told the following anecdote as an illustration. Once, he accompanied Helmut Kohl, then chancellor of Germany, on a visit to the king of Jordan. The president of Israel was also there. Ulfkotte went around the room, blithely greeting a number of journalists and officials with whom he was friends—and who, he knew as well, were working for the CIA, the BND and the Mossad. He was ordered sharply back to his place. Otherwise, “everyone would know” who the other intelligence assets were. It must have been an appreciable percentage, because Ulfkotte then realized they were “all in the same boat.” He also recalls giving a series of lectures on counterespionage at the University of Lueneburg, where Richard Tomlinson of MI6 and other intelligence assets were seeking recruits. Ulfkotte reveals that there are many quid pro quo exchanges between news correspondents and intelligence agencies. Large sums of money, gifts, public recognition and significant career advancement go to those journalists who provide useful information on people they meet or know, or on places to which they travel. Many times, the reporter, like Ulfkotte, need only put his name on an article written for him by some spy agency or financial institution. Money and gifts change hands; doors open to elitist groups, like the Trilateral Commission, Atlantik-Brücke, the Aspen Institute and the German Marshall Fund of the United States. Those who do not cooperate are fired. Always, some “friend” asked for simple things, like a soil sample from Ulfkotte’s travels, or reports on the behaviors of his Iranian political friends. Because Iran has no U.S. embassy, he would enter the Turkish embassy and follow a then-secret, underground escape tunnel into the German embassy, where he would turn over his reports for the CIA or BND. In a recent RT interview, Ulfkotte noted that the BND was created by the CIA. To him, it is a symbol of Germany’s status as a “banana republic,” a “colony of the U.S.” Ulfkotte was severely injured several times during his reportorial years—one of the few to survive a poison gas attack by Iraq on Iran in 1988, which used German-manufactured mustard gas. In Spring 2003, he suffered serious nerve damage in one leg and realized he could not continue in the Middle East. He thereafter resigned from FAZ. In Spring 2004, a German politician asked Ulfkotte to spy on a political rival, offering a large sum of money for the criminal activity. Refusing, Ulfkotte at last realized: “How deep am I sinking?”—and vowed “never again.” Almost immediately thereafter, the government searched his home and office a total of six times, alleging he had revealed “official secrets.” Clearly a reprisal, but they could never show any proof in court. Why the book Gekaufte Journalisten? Ulfkotte knows the mass media have become merely the willing slaves of warmongering governments and self-interested billionaires like George Soros. He fears the outbreak of nuclear war with Russia, based on the North Atlantic Treaty Organization propaganda peddled by his old comrades as “news.” By speaking out in this way now, Ulfkotte hopes most of all to convince other journalists to give up the lucrative but corrupt world of espionage and false reporting. He was young, like many others, when he “fell into the trap.” He wants a “new generation of journalists,” who won’t be bribed. “I just hope that I could stop this.” The rats will not leave the ship without a fight, though. Reporters have been threatened with a lawsuit by FAZ for publicizing efforts to get the paper’s official reaction to Ulfkotte’s book. So much for “press freedom.” On the day of our interview, the FAZ released an otherwise bland statement, seeming to imply falsely that Ulfkotte was fired from his position. But, as in his well-documented book, this former member of elitist international organizations holds the trump card: a written work reference, in which the newspaper praises him, especially for his “secret service activity.” Ulfkotte has suffered three heart attacks and other health problems from his work. AFP’s interview request was one of the few he accepted. He has no children to worry about and so cannot be blackmailed. That is a good thing, because Gekaufte Journalisten seems to have unleashed the wrath of the New World Order, which now stands more clearly exposed before an outraged world public. - See more at: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=20355#sthash.azKS2mH9.dpuf === CNN's Anderson Cooper Admits Working for the CIA ... ▶ 5:36 www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwMCIe2AGW8Similar Sep 20, 2014 - Uploaded by Mark Dice CNN's Anderson Cooper Admits Working for the CIA - Operation Mockingbird Asset Exposed! *SUBSCRIBE ... ====================================================

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