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In this conversation Gerry describes his various relationships with persons to whom he was directed in the hope of raising support (funds) for continued anti-Castro operations. In 1961, Gerry approached Congressman John Rousellot, (R-CA) to garner support. The congressman suggested Gerry visit Robert Morris, who was close to Harold Lafayette Hunt. Morris, in turn, sent Gerry to Lester Loge. Part of this process involved gaining support in small chunks, one influential individual at a time and, like a snowball, it can eventually gain enough momentum to sustain itself. Gerry reveals some of the names associated with QJ/Win, WI/Rogue, and various other operations. He recalls the days when anti-Castro Cubans were reporting back during meals "around the camp fire" on the whereabouts of CIA agent, Charles Kane, and the goings-on at Elliot Key and Jewfish Creek while the Cubans were training for more anti-Castro operations with Brad Ayers. Gerry also dismisses AJ Weberman’s reportage and methods in a very caustic, but sarcastically humorous, manner. My laughter at his slur toward Weberman was spontaneous as I found the “nothing but a book reader” characterization of AJ apropos. However, my reaction should not be construed as condoning bigotry in any form. Truth be told, it was feigned by Hemming, as well. He wasn’t a bigot. It was merely a part of his bravado when he was expressing disdain. [WARNING: Strong language]